Re: [BlindHandyMan] box formula

2010-07-16 Thread Dan Rossi
To calculate the angle of the cut for a box, you divide 360 degrees by the 
number of sides of the box, then divide that by two.  For example, on a 
four sided box, 360 divided by 4 equals 90 degrees per corner, 90 divided 
by 2 equals 45 degrees per cut.

To make it more simple, 360 divided by two times the number of sides.

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E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


[BlindHandyMan] I E question

2010-07-16 Thread Matt
Hello, I have managed to screw up my internet explorer, and have installed jaws 
11.  I can't seem to get i e to come up well enough to try and upgrade it to 
maybe escape the problem.
Could I install an old version from a cd and get it running that way and then 
upgrade that one?
I have my old original xp home cd, and I have some old jaws cds, which may 
include a copy of it.  Not sure how to get to it on them, but I can poke 
around.  We've tried restores on the computer to an earlier time, but no.
It either gets so far in trying to get to google, which is what I have my home 
page set as, and hangs up, or it gets me to a search box, which doesn't seem to 
work either.  I read in some of the jaws 11 info that you needed to turn off 
pop-up blocker and do some other stuff in tools, but I can't seem to get to 
tools.
I'll take your suggestions and read through them.
Thanks,

Matt

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] I E question

2010-07-16 Thread David Ferrin
You probably can but your answer will be more forth coming if you try either 
the blind computing or blind tech list as we really don't get in to such 
things on here.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: Matt mattmull...@suddenlink.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:05 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] I E question


Hello, I have managed to screw up my internet explorer, and have installed 
jaws 11.  I can't seem to get i e to come up well enough to try and upgrade 
it to maybe escape the problem.
Could I install an old version from a cd and get it running that way and 
then upgrade that one?
I have my old original xp home cd, and I have some old jaws cds, which may 
include a copy of it.  Not sure how to get to it on them, but I can poke 
around.  We've tried restores on the computer to an earlier time, but no.
It either gets so far in trying to get to google, which is what I have my 
home page set as, and hangs up, or it gets me to a search box, which doesn't 
seem to work either.  I read in some of the jaws 11 info that you needed to 
turn off pop-up blocker and do some other stuff in tools, but I can't seem 
to get to tools.
I'll take your suggestions and read through them.
Thanks,

Matt

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] I E question

2010-07-16 Thread Matt
Do you have subscribe info for those lists, which I can work from email here?  
Internet isn't an option for searching for them just now.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Ferrin 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] I E question



  You probably can but your answer will be more forth coming if you try either 
  the blind computing or blind tech list as we really don't get in to such 
  things on here.
  David Ferrin
  www.jaws-users.com
  Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt mattmull...@suddenlink.net
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:05 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] I E question

  Hello, I have managed to screw up my internet explorer, and have installed 
  jaws 11. I can't seem to get i e to come up well enough to try and upgrade 
  it to maybe escape the problem.
  Could I install an old version from a cd and get it running that way and 
  then upgrade that one?
  I have my old original xp home cd, and I have some old jaws cds, which may 
  include a copy of it. Not sure how to get to it on them, but I can poke 
  around. We've tried restores on the computer to an earlier time, but no.
  It either gets so far in trying to get to google, which is what I have my 
  home page set as, and hangs up, or it gets me to a search box, which doesn't 
  seem to work either. I read in some of the jaws 11 info that you needed to 
  turn off pop-up blocker and do some other stuff in tools, but I can't seem 
  to get to tools.
  I'll take your suggestions and read through them.
  Thanks,

  Matt

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] I E question

2010-07-16 Thread David Ferrin
Here are 3 options for you to choose from.

blindtech-subscr...@blindtech-list.info
blind-computing-subscr...@jaws-users.com
jaws-users-list-subscr...@jaws-users.com

They are all some what high traffic lists I will say. Blind Tech might be 
the highest of all. Either option will most likely yield the answers you 
need.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: Matt mattmull...@suddenlink.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] I E question


Do you have subscribe info for those lists, which I can work from email 
here?  Internet isn't an option for searching for them just now.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Ferrin
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] I E question



  You probably can but your answer will be more forth coming if you try 
either
  the blind computing or blind tech list as we really don't get in to such
  things on here.
  David Ferrin
  www.jaws-users.com
  Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt mattmull...@suddenlink.net
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:05 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] I E question

  Hello, I have managed to screw up my internet explorer, and have installed
  jaws 11. I can't seem to get i e to come up well enough to try and upgrade
  it to maybe escape the problem.
  Could I install an old version from a cd and get it running that way and
  then upgrade that one?
  I have my old original xp home cd, and I have some old jaws cds, which may
  include a copy of it. Not sure how to get to it on them, but I can poke
  around. We've tried restores on the computer to an earlier time, but no.
  It either gets so far in trying to get to google, which is what I have my
  home page set as, and hangs up, or it gets me to a search box, which 
doesn't
  seem to work either. I read in some of the jaws 11 info that you needed to
  turn off pop-up blocker and do some other stuff in tools, but I can't seem
  to get to tools.
  I'll take your suggestions and read through them.
  Thanks,

  Matt

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] box formula

2010-07-16 Thread Lenny McHugh
I do not remember all of the details however, David Marks on woodworks made 
one a few years ago. It was either 6 or 8 sided and tapered. He made it out 
of purple heart wood. It sounded like a  neat project.
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] box formula


hey thanks Dan
that's what i needed.
my gf wants an umbrella stand and i thought it would be fun to try to make 
an eight sided one.
Jim


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[BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed (this is no joke

2010-07-16 Thread Spiro
Hey Dale be careful!
To: 'Science, Technology, Mathematics, SCI-FI, and more.'
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:51 PM
Subject: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed

  Subject: [Members] Giant weed that can cause blindness popping up in 
Ontario,B.C.


Officials scrambling to destroy the plant that can also cause burns and
permanent  scarring.

Ciara Byrne

Globe and Mail, Jul. 09, 2010 5:26PM EDT

Toronto - The Canadian Press - A weed that can grow six metres tall, sprout 
massive leaves and produce toxic,
blindness inducing sap is creeping into Ontario and parts of British Columbia.
Giant hogweed is easily identified by its teetering height. The leaves on the
weed fan out as much as 1.5 metres in diameter. It is also identified by its
tell-tale purple splotching on the stem and its umbrella-like cluster of white 
flowers.


The plant, which was spotted around the coast in British Columbia in late June,
and is known to flourish in the Lower Mainland, Fraser Valley, Gulf Islands, and
central to southern Vancouver Island, was discovered in the Renfrew County area 
in
eastern Ontario on Thursday.


Jeff Muzzi, a manager of forestry services for Renfrew County, said officials
have destroyed the toxic vegetation, but he said the indomitable weed has 
become a
problem for other places in the province, including southwestern Ontario.
It's giant. It's not a misnomer, said Mr. Muzzi as he explained the wondrous
plant that seems to sprout in waste land areas, like ditches and vacant lots.

David Galbraith, head of science at the Royal Botanical Gardens in Hamilton said
he was intrigued by the enormous plant - which is part of the carrot family -
when he saw a huge patch growing behind a gas station north of the Goderich, 
Ont.
years ago.


I thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen, a great, big, huge
spectacular plant, said Mr. Galbraith as he explained its allure.

While it may look bewildering - almost begging to be examined by an amateur
botanist or a green thumb - the consequences of touching the weed could scar a 
person for
life.


The sap gets activated by sunlight, so once you get out on the sun it reacts
and can cause really bad burns, blistering and scars, said Mr. Muzzi.
It has also been known to cause temporary blindness or, in extreme cases,
permanent loss of eyesight, said Mr. Muzzi.


Within 24 to 48 hours after a person comes in contact with the sap, the symptoms
will begin to appear, he added.


The challenge is trying to uproot and remove the invasive weed, a careful task
Mr. Muzzi tackled on Thursday.

In the 35 degree heat I was snipping the flower heads off and I was wearing a
Tyvex suit and eye protection, said Mr. Muzzi.
It may seem extreme, but it's exactly what the Invasive Plants Council of
British Columbia recommends an expert wear when they're removing the worrisome 
weed. The
council recommends waterproof gloves, a rubber raincoat and pants and eye
protection.

Gail Wallin, the executive director of the council, said the weed has become
dense and has recently spread on Vancouver Island.

It's the one plant that in the last month I've received scads of calls, said
Ms. Wallin.

Its large roots make it difficult to dig up, and after it's removed some experts
suggest mowing the patch it was nestled on for several years to eliminate seeds
in the soil.


Given that giant hogweed can produce more than 100,000 seeds, there is the
potential that it will spread, said Mr. Muzzi.


Mr. Muzzi also said chemical herbicides can remove the plant, but since the
cosmetic pesticide ban came into effect in Ontario, people have become wary of 
using any
chemicals on plants.


Experts believe it was brought from Asia to England, and then into North America
as an ornamental plant, and quickly flourished in wet, moist areas without a
natural enemy.


Mr. Galbraith said the giant hogweed is an example of what happens when people
introduce foreign plants into a garden.


As an example of this problem, it's a spectacular one, said Mr. Galbraith.




Re: [BlindHandyMan] box formula

2010-07-16 Thread Spiro
sorry Dan, divided by the number of sides
360/2/x




On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

 To calculate the angle of the cut for a box, you divide 360 degrees by the
 number of sides of the box, then divide that by two.  For example, on a
 four sided box, 360 divided by 4 equals 90 degrees per corner, 90 divided
 by 2 equals 45 degrees per cut.

 To make it more simple, 360 divided by two times the number of sides.

 -- 
 Blue skies.
 Dan Rossi
 Carnegie Mellon University.
 E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
 Tel:  (412) 268-9081



Re: [BlindHandyMan] box formula

2010-07-16 Thread Dan Rossi
Spiro,

We said the same thing.  you said 360 / 2 / x   I said 360 / 2*x   I 
should have put parenthesis around my 2*x) but the result is the same.

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Spiro wrote:

 sorry Dan, divided by the number of sides
 360/2/x




 On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

 To calculate the angle of the cut for a box, you divide 360 degrees by the
 number of sides of the box, then divide that by two.  For example, on a
 four sided box, 360 divided by 4 equals 90 degrees per corner, 90 divided
 by 2 equals 45 degrees per cut.

 To make it more simple, 360 divided by two times the number of sides.

 --
 Blue skies.
 Dan Rossi
 Carnegie Mellon University.
 E-Mail:  d...@andrew.cmu.edu
 Tel: (412) 268-9081



 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed (this is no joke

2010-07-16 Thread Dale Leavens
There have been a few discovered down by Sudbury, about four hours south of 
here. Apparently they are quite spectacular to see.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:06 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed 
(this is no joke



  Hey Dale be careful!
  To: 'Science, Technology, Mathematics, SCI-FI, and more.'
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:51 PM
  Subject: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed

  Subject: [Members] Giant weed that can cause blindness popping up in 
Ontario,B.C.

  Officials scrambling to destroy the plant that can also cause burns and
  permanent scarring.

  Ciara Byrne

  Globe and Mail, Jul. 09, 2010 5:26PM EDT

  Toronto - The Canadian Press - A weed that can grow six metres tall, sprout 
massive leaves and produce toxic,
  blindness inducing sap is creeping into Ontario and parts of British Columbia.
  Giant hogweed is easily identified by its teetering height. The leaves on the
  weed fan out as much as 1.5 metres in diameter. It is also identified by its
  tell-tale purple splotching on the stem and its umbrella-like cluster of 
white flowers.

  The plant, which was spotted around the coast in British Columbia in late 
June,
  and is known to flourish in the Lower Mainland, Fraser Valley, Gulf Islands, 
and
  central to southern Vancouver Island, was discovered in the Renfrew County 
area in
  eastern Ontario on Thursday.

  Jeff Muzzi, a manager of forestry services for Renfrew County, said officials
  have destroyed the toxic vegetation, but he said the indomitable weed has 
become a
  problem for other places in the province, including southwestern Ontario.
  It's giant. It's not a misnomer, said Mr. Muzzi as he explained the wondrous
  plant that seems to sprout in waste land areas, like ditches and vacant lots.

  David Galbraith, head of science at the Royal Botanical Gardens in Hamilton 
said
  he was intrigued by the enormous plant - which is part of the carrot family -
  when he saw a huge patch growing behind a gas station north of the Goderich, 
Ont.
  years ago.

  I thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen, a great, big, huge
  spectacular plant, said Mr. Galbraith as he explained its allure.

  While it may look bewildering - almost begging to be examined by an amateur
  botanist or a green thumb - the consequences of touching the weed could scar 
a person for
  life.

  The sap gets activated by sunlight, so once you get out on the sun it reacts
  and can cause really bad burns, blistering and scars, said Mr. Muzzi.
  It has also been known to cause temporary blindness or, in extreme cases,
  permanent loss of eyesight, said Mr. Muzzi.

  Within 24 to 48 hours after a person comes in contact with the sap, the 
symptoms
  will begin to appear, he added.

  The challenge is trying to uproot and remove the invasive weed, a careful task
  Mr. Muzzi tackled on Thursday.

  In the 35 degree heat I was snipping the flower heads off and I was wearing a
  Tyvex suit and eye protection, said Mr. Muzzi.
  It may seem extreme, but it's exactly what the Invasive Plants Council of
  British Columbia recommends an expert wear when they're removing the 
worrisome weed. The
  council recommends waterproof gloves, a rubber raincoat and pants and eye
  protection.

  Gail Wallin, the executive director of the council, said the weed has become
  dense and has recently spread on Vancouver Island.

  It's the one plant that in the last month I've received scads of calls, said
  Ms. Wallin.

  Its large roots make it difficult to dig up, and after it's removed some 
experts
  suggest mowing the patch it was nestled on for several years to eliminate 
seeds
  in the soil.

  Given that giant hogweed can produce more than 100,000 seeds, there is the
  potential that it will spread, said Mr. Muzzi.

  Mr. Muzzi also said chemical herbicides can remove the plant, but since the
  cosmetic pesticide ban came into effect in Ontario, people have become wary 
of using any
  chemicals on plants.

  Experts believe it was brought from Asia to England, and then into North 
America
  as an ornamental plant, and quickly flourished in wet, moist areas without a
  natural enemy.

  Mr. Galbraith said the giant hogweed is an example of what happens when people
  introduce foreign plants into a garden.

  As an example of this problem, it's a spectacular one, said Mr. Galbraith.



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed (this is no joke

2010-07-16 Thread Jewel
John Wyndham's triffids?

Jewel
- Original Message - 
From: Dale Leavens dleav...@puc.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed 
(this is no joke


There have been a few discovered down by Sudbury, about four hours south of 
here. Apparently they 
are quite spectacular to see.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:06 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed 
(this is no joke



  Hey Dale be careful!
  To: 'Science, Technology, Mathematics, SCI-FI, and more.'
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:51 PM
  Subject: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed

  Subject: [Members] Giant weed that can cause blindness popping up in 
Ontario,B.C.

  Officials scrambling to destroy the plant that can also cause burns and
  permanent scarring.

  Ciara Byrne

  Globe and Mail, Jul. 09, 2010 5:26PM EDT

  Toronto - The Canadian Press - A weed that can grow six metres tall, sprout 
massive leaves and 
produce toxic,
  blindness inducing sap is creeping into Ontario and parts of British Columbia.
  Giant hogweed is easily identified by its teetering height. The leaves on the
  weed fan out as much as 1.5 metres in diameter. It is also identified by its
  tell-tale purple splotching on the stem and its umbrella-like cluster of 
white flowers.

  The plant, which was spotted around the coast in British Columbia in late 
June,
  and is known to flourish in the Lower Mainland, Fraser Valley, Gulf Islands, 
and
  central to southern Vancouver Island, was discovered in the Renfrew County 
area in
  eastern Ontario on Thursday.

  Jeff Muzzi, a manager of forestry services for Renfrew County, said officials
  have destroyed the toxic vegetation, but he said the indomitable weed has 
become a
  problem for other places in the province, including southwestern Ontario.
  It's giant. It's not a misnomer, said Mr. Muzzi as he explained the wondrous
  plant that seems to sprout in waste land areas, like ditches and vacant lots.

  David Galbraith, head of science at the Royal Botanical Gardens in Hamilton 
said
  he was intrigued by the enormous plant - which is part of the carrot family -
  when he saw a huge patch growing behind a gas station north of the Goderich, 
Ont.
  years ago.

  I thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen, a great, big, huge
  spectacular plant, said Mr. Galbraith as he explained its allure.

  While it may look bewildering - almost begging to be examined by an amateur
  botanist or a green thumb - the consequences of touching the weed could scar 
a person for
  life.

  The sap gets activated by sunlight, so once you get out on the sun it reacts
  and can cause really bad burns, blistering and scars, said Mr. Muzzi.
  It has also been known to cause temporary blindness or, in extreme cases,
  permanent loss of eyesight, said Mr. Muzzi.

  Within 24 to 48 hours after a person comes in contact with the sap, the 
symptoms
  will begin to appear, he added.

  The challenge is trying to uproot and remove the invasive weed, a careful task
  Mr. Muzzi tackled on Thursday.

  In the 35 degree heat I was snipping the flower heads off and I was wearing a
  Tyvex suit and eye protection, said Mr. Muzzi.
  It may seem extreme, but it's exactly what the Invasive Plants Council of
  British Columbia recommends an expert wear when they're removing the 
worrisome weed. The
  council recommends waterproof gloves, a rubber raincoat and pants and eye
  protection.

  Gail Wallin, the executive director of the council, said the weed has become
  dense and has recently spread on Vancouver Island.

  It's the one plant that in the last month I've received scads of calls, said
  Ms. Wallin.

  Its large roots make it difficult to dig up, and after it's removed some 
experts
  suggest mowing the patch it was nestled on for several years to eliminate 
seeds
  in the soil.

  Given that giant hogweed can produce more than 100,000 seeds, there is the
  potential that it will spread, said Mr. Muzzi.

  Mr. Muzzi also said chemical herbicides can remove the plant, but since the
  cosmetic pesticide ban came into effect in Ontario, people have become wary 
of using any
  chemicals on plants.

  Experts believe it was brought from Asia to England, and then into North 
America
  as an ornamental plant, and quickly flourished in wet, moist areas without a
  natural enemy.

  Mr. Galbraith said the giant hogweed is an example of what happens when people
  introduce foreign plants into a garden.

  As an example of this problem, it's a spectacular one, said Mr. Galbraith.





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] box formula

2010-07-16 Thread Spiro
ah yes, the screen reader read
360 divided by 2
times x
Forgive me.





On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

 Spiro,

 We said the same thing.  you said 360 / 2 / x   I said 360 / 2*x   I
 should have put parenthesis around my 2*x) but the result is the same.

 On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Spiro wrote:

 sorry Dan, divided by the number of sides
 360/2/x




 On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

 To calculate the angle of the cut for a box, you divide 360 degrees by the
 number of sides of the box, then divide that by two.  For example, on a
 four sided box, 360 divided by 4 equals 90 degrees per corner, 90 divided
 by 2 equals 45 degrees per cut.

 To make it more simple, 360 divided by two times the number of sides.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed (this is no joke

2010-07-16 Thread Spiro
but not to touch!




On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Dale Leavens wrote:

 There have been a few discovered down by Sudbury, about four hours south of 
 here. Apparently they are quite spectacular to see.


  - Original Message -
  From: Spiro
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:06 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed 
 (this is no joke



  Hey Dale be careful!
  To: 'Science, Technology, Mathematics, SCI-FI, and more.'
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:51 PM
  Subject: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed

  Subject: [Members] Giant weed that can cause blindness popping up in 
 Ontario,B.C.

  Officials scrambling to destroy the plant that can also cause burns and
  permanent scarring.

  Ciara Byrne

  Globe and Mail, Jul. 09, 2010 5:26PM EDT

  Toronto - The Canadian Press - A weed that can grow six metres tall, sprout 
 massive leaves and produce toxic,
  blindness inducing sap is creeping into Ontario and parts of British 
 Columbia.
  Giant hogweed is easily identified by its teetering height. The leaves on the
  weed fan out as much as 1.5 metres in diameter. It is also identified by its
  tell-tale purple splotching on the stem and its umbrella-like cluster of 
 white flowers.

  The plant, which was spotted around the coast in British Columbia in late 
 June,
  and is known to flourish in the Lower Mainland, Fraser Valley, Gulf Islands, 
 and
  central to southern Vancouver Island, was discovered in the Renfrew County 
 area in
  eastern Ontario on Thursday.

  Jeff Muzzi, a manager of forestry services for Renfrew County, said officials
  have destroyed the toxic vegetation, but he said the indomitable weed has 
 become a
  problem for other places in the province, including southwestern Ontario.
  It's giant. It's not a misnomer, said Mr. Muzzi as he explained the 
 wondrous
  plant that seems to sprout in waste land areas, like ditches and vacant lots.

  David Galbraith, head of science at the Royal Botanical Gardens in Hamilton 
 said
  he was intrigued by the enormous plant - which is part of the carrot family -
  when he saw a huge patch growing behind a gas station north of the Goderich, 
 Ont.
  years ago.

  I thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen, a great, big, huge
  spectacular plant, said Mr. Galbraith as he explained its allure.

  While it may look bewildering - almost begging to be examined by an amateur
  botanist or a green thumb - the consequences of touching the weed could scar 
 a person for
  life.

  The sap gets activated by sunlight, so once you get out on the sun it reacts
  and can cause really bad burns, blistering and scars, said Mr. Muzzi.
  It has also been known to cause temporary blindness or, in extreme cases,
  permanent loss of eyesight, said Mr. Muzzi.

  Within 24 to 48 hours after a person comes in contact with the sap, the 
 symptoms
  will begin to appear, he added.

  The challenge is trying to uproot and remove the invasive weed, a careful 
 task
  Mr. Muzzi tackled on Thursday.

  In the 35 degree heat I was snipping the flower heads off and I was wearing 
 a
  Tyvex suit and eye protection, said Mr. Muzzi.
  It may seem extreme, but it's exactly what the Invasive Plants Council of
  British Columbia recommends an expert wear when they're removing the 
 worrisome weed. The
  council recommends waterproof gloves, a rubber raincoat and pants and eye
  protection.

  Gail Wallin, the executive director of the council, said the weed has become
  dense and has recently spread on Vancouver Island.

  It's the one plant that in the last month I've received scads of calls, 
 said
  Ms. Wallin.

  Its large roots make it difficult to dig up, and after it's removed some 
 experts
  suggest mowing the patch it was nestled on for several years to eliminate 
 seeds
  in the soil.

  Given that giant hogweed can produce more than 100,000 seeds, there is the
  potential that it will spread, said Mr. Muzzi.

  Mr. Muzzi also said chemical herbicides can remove the plant, but since the
  cosmetic pesticide ban came into effect in Ontario, people have become wary 
 of using any
  chemicals on plants.

  Experts believe it was brought from Asia to England, and then into North 
 America
  as an ornamental plant, and quickly flourished in wet, moist areas without a
  natural enemy.

  Mr. Galbraith said the giant hogweed is an example of what happens when 
 people
  introduce foreign plants into a garden.

  As an example of this problem, it's a spectacular one, said Mr. Galbraith.





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed (this is no joke

2010-07-16 Thread Max Robinson
Jewel.  I had exactly the same thought.

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- Original Message - 
From: Jewel jewelbla...@xtra.co.nz
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien 
weed (this is no joke


 John Wyndham's triffids?

Jewel
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dale Leavens dleav...@puc.net
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien 
 weed (this is no joke


 There have been a few discovered down by Sudbury, about four hours south 
 of here. Apparently they
 are quite spectacular to see.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:06 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] BAH Fw: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien 
 weed (this is no joke



  Hey Dale be careful!
  To: 'Science, Technology, Mathematics, SCI-FI, and more.'
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:51 PM
  Subject: [Sci-tech] Odd but crual Giant alien weed

  Subject: [Members] Giant weed that can cause blindness popping up in 
 Ontario,B.C.

  Officials scrambling to destroy the plant that can also cause burns and
  permanent scarring.

  Ciara Byrne

  Globe and Mail, Jul. 09, 2010 5:26PM EDT

  Toronto - The Canadian Press - A weed that can grow six metres tall, 
 sprout massive leaves and
 produce toxic,
  blindness inducing sap is creeping into Ontario and parts of British 
 Columbia.
  Giant hogweed is easily identified by its teetering height. The leaves on 
 the
  weed fan out as much as 1.5 metres in diameter. It is also identified by 
 its
  tell-tale purple splotching on the stem and its umbrella-like cluster of 
 white flowers.

  The plant, which was spotted around the coast in British Columbia in late 
 June,
  and is known to flourish in the Lower Mainland, Fraser Valley, Gulf 
 Islands, and
  central to southern Vancouver Island, was discovered in the Renfrew 
 County area in
  eastern Ontario on Thursday.

  Jeff Muzzi, a manager of forestry services for Renfrew County, said 
 officials
  have destroyed the toxic vegetation, but he said the indomitable weed has 
 become a
  problem for other places in the province, including southwestern Ontario.
  It's giant. It's not a misnomer, said Mr. Muzzi as he explained the 
 wondrous
  plant that seems to sprout in waste land areas, like ditches and vacant 
 lots.

  David Galbraith, head of science at the Royal Botanical Gardens in 
 Hamilton said
  he was intrigued by the enormous plant - which is part of the carrot 
 family -
  when he saw a huge patch growing behind a gas station north of the 
 Goderich, Ont.
  years ago.

  I thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen, a great, big, 
 huge
  spectacular plant, said Mr. Galbraith as he explained its allure.

  While it may look bewildering - almost begging to be examined by an 
 amateur
  botanist or a green thumb - the consequences of touching the weed could 
 scar a person for
  life.

  The sap gets activated by sunlight, so once you get out on the sun it 
 reacts
  and can cause really bad burns, blistering and scars, said Mr. Muzzi.
  It has also been known to cause temporary blindness or, in extreme cases,
  permanent loss of eyesight, said Mr. Muzzi.

  Within 24 to 48 hours after a person comes in contact with the sap, the 
 symptoms
  will begin to appear, he added.

  The challenge is trying to uproot and remove the invasive weed, a careful 
 task
  Mr. Muzzi tackled on Thursday.

  In the 35 degree heat I was snipping the flower heads off and I was 
 wearing a
  Tyvex suit and eye protection, said Mr. Muzzi.
  It may seem extreme, but it's exactly what the Invasive Plants Council of
  British Columbia recommends an expert wear when they're removing the 
 worrisome weed. The
  council recommends waterproof gloves, a rubber raincoat and pants and eye
  protection.

  Gail Wallin, the executive director of the council, said the weed has 
 become
  dense and has recently spread on Vancouver Island.

  It's the one plant that in the last month I've received scads of calls, 
 said
  Ms. Wallin.

  Its large roots make it difficult to dig up, and after it's removed some 
 experts
  suggest mowing the patch it was nestled on for several years to eliminate 
 seeds
  in the soil.

  Given that giant hogweed can produce more than 100,000 seeds, there is 
 the
  potential that it will spread, said Mr. Muzzi.

  Mr. Muzzi also said chemical herbicides can remove the