RE: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-21 Thread arobbin1
Did you check with Lowes? 


 Alan & Terrie Robbins  wrote: 
> Thanks, Bob, Dale, John, & Lenny for your suggestions and ideas on this
> 
> Al
>   -Original Message-
>   From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:56 PM
>   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings
> 
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>   I don't know the measurements, but I've gotten some at Lowes. They are
> concrete, More pyramid than cube shaped, and there is a place for a 4 by 4
> to drop in. No holes for securing, but the weight should keep it stable.
> 
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Alan & Terrie Robbins
>   To: Blindhandyman
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
>   Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings
> 
>   I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
>   the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
>   It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
>   is it has been there since the house was built in 1975. On
>   the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
>   The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
>   by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
>   sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
>   cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
>   question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
>   cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
>   four?
> 
>   thanks
>   Al
> 
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-21 Thread Alan & Terrie Robbins
Thanks, Bob, Dale, John, & Lenny for your suggestions and ideas on this

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:56 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings



  I don't know the measurements, but I've gotten some at Lowes. They are
concrete, More pyramid than cube shaped, and there is a place for a 4 by 4
to drop in. No holes for securing, but the weight should keep it stable.

  - Original Message -
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

  I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
  the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
  It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
  is it has been there since the house was built in 1975. On
  the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
  The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
  by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
  sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
  cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
  question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
  cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
  four?

  thanks
  Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-20 Thread Bob Kennedy
I don't know the measurements, but I've gotten some at Lowes.  They are 
concrete, More pyramid than cube shaped, and there is a place for a 4 by 4 to 
drop in.  No holes for securing, but the weight should keep it stable.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings



  I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
  the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
  It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
  is it has been there since the house was built in 1975. On
  the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
  The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
  by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
  sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
  cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
  question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
  cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
  four?

  thanks
  Al



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-20 Thread Dale Leavens
You want to support it well when you remove and replace the posts to prevent 
the leverage of the deck from pulling your rim away from the building.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:31 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings



  Lenny,

  Yes, as they are beginning to get rotten on the bottom. Does this cleat
  anchor to the block or just sit? Since the deck is attached to the house,
  I'm not too concerned with movement

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:27 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

  Are you replacing the 4x4s? If so they make a nice metal cleat that you
  screw to the bottom and it sits on the block. I used them on my back porch
  roof supports and have not had any problem in over 30 years.
  - Original Message -
  From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" 
  To: "Blindhandyman" 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

  I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
  the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
  It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
  is it has been there since the house was built in 1975. On
  the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
  The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
  by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
  sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
  cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
  question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
  cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
  four?

  thanks
  Al

  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-20 Thread Dale Leavens
They certainly do. They are somewhat conical sloping from the wider base to the 
top. There is a depression in the top and the ones I have seen also have 
channels in them at the top presumably to drain water away.

Hope this is helpful.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings



  I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
  the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
  It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
  is it has been there since the house was built in 1975. On
  the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
  The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
  by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
  sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
  cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
  question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
  cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
  four?

  thanks
  Al



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-20 Thread Lenny McHugh
Al, the ones that I used had 4 screws that you fastened the cleat to the 
post. There are 4 corners that stick down about an inch with a point at each 
end. This just sits on the concrete slab, block etc. The fact that it held 
the 4x4s above theconcrete there is no wicking. Also there is a large cutout 
that will allow any moisture to dry. I got mine at a lumber yard that 
recently closed.
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings


Lenny,

Yes, as they are beginning to get rotten on the bottom. Does this cleat
anchor to the block or just sit? Since the deck is attached to the house,
I'm not too concerned with movement

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:27 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings



  Are you replacing the 4x4s? If so they make a nice metal cleat that you
  screw to the bottom and it sits on the block. I used them on my back porch
  roof supports and have not had any problem in over 30 years.
  - Original Message -
  From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" 
  To: "Blindhandyman" 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

  I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
  the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
  It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
  is it has been there since the house was built in 1975. On
  the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
  The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
  by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
  sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
  cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
  question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
  cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
  four?

  thanks
  Al

  

  Send any questions regarding list management to:
  blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-20 Thread Alan & Terrie Robbins
Lenny,

Yes, as they are beginning to get rotten on the bottom. Does this cleat
anchor to the block or just sit? Since the deck is attached to the house,
I'm not too concerned with movement

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:27 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings



  Are you replacing the 4x4s? If so they make a nice metal cleat that you
  screw to the bottom and it sits on the block. I used them on my back porch
  roof supports and have not had any problem in over 30 years.
  - Original Message -
  From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" 
  To: "Blindhandyman" 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

  I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
  the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
  It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
  is it has been there since the house was built in 1975. On
  the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
  The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
  by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
  sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
  cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
  question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
  cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
  four?

  thanks
  Al

  

  Send any questions regarding list management to:
  blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-20 Thread Lenny McHugh
Are you replacing the 4x4s? If so they make a nice metal cleat that you 
screw to the bottom and it sits on the block. I used them on my back porch 
roof supports and have not had any problem in over 30 years.
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" 
To: "Blindhandyman" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings


I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
is it has been  there since the house was built in 1975.  On
the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
four?

thanks
Al





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings

2010-07-20 Thread John E Sherrer
You can buy a steel foot that has a spike on the middle bottom about a foot 
long that will fit a 4 by 4.

John
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cement block footings



  I have a small seven by seven deck/porch that is attached to
  the back of my house. We access it via sliding glass doors.
  It was here when we purchased the house in 1985 but my guess
  is it has been there since the house was built in 1975. On
  the one side it is attached to the house via the end joist.
  The other side or side furthest from the house is supported
  by two four by fours, one on each corner. These were never
  sunk into the ground and cemented but rather just set on a
  cement block even with the surface of the ground. My
  question is do they sell any type preformed block say 1 foot
  cube with a pre formed cut out or attachment for a four by
  four?

  thanks
  Al



  

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