Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line DrawingBoard.htm

2007-04-19 Thread William Stephan
Jim, what's a cran?

Thanks.


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DrawingBoard.htm
.
.
.Never before has there been such an awesome raised drawing system 
.available to the blind. Now, blind kids can draw pictures to their 
.hearts' content; and, in seconds, parents and teachers can produce 
.tactile diagrams of formerly visual concepts. Perhaps best of all, 
.you don't need any specialized, expensive plastic sheets or writing 
.instruments to do it - thin copy paper or even thick Braille paper 
.will work nicely!
.
.sure there has.
.i used one back in first grade i an now 45 grin.
.
.what it was is a large board about 2 feet by 2 feet with a piece of 
.window screen  on it. the old metal screen.
.when you drew on the paper with a cran the lines came up just fine.
.jim
.  
.
.



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line DrawingBoard.htm

2007-04-19 Thread Dan Rossi
Bill Stephan asked:

 Jim, what's a cran?

It is what people outside of the midWest call a crayon.  *GRIN*

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line DrawingBoard.htm

2007-04-19 Thread spiro
actually the street for crayon in Philadelphia is crown.
hahaha


On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Dan Rossi wrote:

 Bill Stephan asked:

 Jim, what's a cran?

 It is what people outside of the midWest call a crayon.  *GRIN*

 -- 
 Blue skies.
 Dan Rossi
 Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line DrawingBoard.htm

2007-04-19 Thread cheetah
ok bill so my spelling sucks.
a crayon is a little wax stick that every kid in the free world has 
probebly played with to mar walls and maybe draw something.
jim

oh yah they come in many different colors
At 09:25 AM 4/19/2007, you wrote:

Jim, what's a cran?

Thanks.

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DrawingBoard.htm
.
.
.Never before has there been such an awesome raised drawing system
.available to the blind. Now, blind kids can draw pictures to their
.hearts' content; and, in seconds, parents and teachers can produce
.tactile diagrams of formerly visual concepts. Perhaps best of all,
.you don't need any specialized, expensive plastic sheets or writing
.instruments to do it - thin copy paper or even thick Braille paper
.will work nicely!
.
.sure there has.
.i used one back in first grade i an now 45 grin.
.
.what it was is a large board about 2 feet by 2 feet with a piece of
.window screen on it. the old metal screen.
.when you drew on the paper with a cran the lines came up just fine.
.jim
.
.
.


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line DrawingBoard.htm

2007-04-19 Thread William Stephan
Dale, I've tried on many occasions to follow a pattern and can't do it.

I tend to be somewhat impatient, and it's possible I guess that I run my jig 
saw too fast.


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.Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line 
DrawingBoard.htm
.
.Just an associated question,
.
.I have never found it very effective or efficient to try to follow lines or 
.drawings or score marks with a saw. If deeply enough etched I can generally 
.get the tip of a chisel accurately into it but otherwise, following with a 
.saw and even planing down to it once really close I loose it in the natural 
.grain. Following a scribe with a jig saw or scroll saw, can some of you 
.really do that?
.
.Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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.Skype DaleLeavens
.Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
.
.
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.Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:47 PM
.Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line Drawing 
.Board.htm
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.Future Aids - Raised-Line Drawing BoardHi, I just got this raised drawing 
.board and I'm trying it for tracing shapes on to a piece of paper and then 
.taking the paper and taping it to a board and cutting the shape with my 
.scroll saw... Let you guys know  how it goes in a day or two..
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.your blind child wanted to draw a picture - just like his sighted friends? 
.Or have you (as a teacher) ever needed to draw your visually impaired 
.student a diagram that she can actually feel?
.
.  Our Tactile Drawing Board is a simple and effective tool you can use 
.to do both these things - and more. Basically, you just place a regular 8.5 
.X 11 sheet of paper into the frame on this specially-designed wooden board. 
.Then, using an ordinary pen or Braille stylus, simply draw whatever you 
.like - pressing firmly. Instantly, you'll be able to feel a clear outline of 
.what you've drawn. And when you flip the page over, you'll have a 
.perfectly-raised diagram on the reverse side - and every detail will easily 
.be felt.
.
.  Never before has there been such an awesome raised drawing system 
.available to the blind. Now, blind kids can draw pictures to their hearts' 
.content; and, in seconds, parents and teachers can produce tactile diagrams 
.of formerly visual concepts. Perhaps best of all, you don't need any 
.specialized, expensive plastic sheets or writing instruments to do it - thin 
.copy paper or even thick Braille paper will work nicely!
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line DrawingBoard.htm

2007-04-19 Thread cheetah
hay thanks dan
jim in minnesota
At 09:56 AM 4/19/2007, you wrote:

Bill Stephan asked:

  Jim, what's a cran?
 
It is what people outside of the midWest call a crayon. *GRIN*

--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line DrawingBoard.htm

2007-04-19 Thread Dale Leavens
Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry about following tactile lines with 
tools.

Truly we all do have varying talents and capabilities but that one is not 
mine.

I did buy the long curve device from Lee Valley which I hope to be able to 
use with blocking and either a collar or a template bit on a router to form 
curves, one project I want to tackle maybe next winter is a roll top desk 
for some of our computer equipment which we seem to use mostly at the dining 
room table. As we use notebooks this appeals as an option to hide away 
scanners, printers and even the computers and to have a brailler always 
available near the kitchen telephone. I was puzzling as to how I might 
design the curved runway for the roll top probably not a perfect arc, if I 
can get close with this curve then improve it if necessary with a sander on 
a piece of plywood or hardboard then I can reproduce as many as I want.

I was very interested to read about that ellipse jig in one of the magazines 
too, I have wondered about how to do that long and hard.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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- Original Message - 
From: William Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line 
DrawingBoard.htm


 Dale, I've tried on many occasions to follow a pattern and can't do it.

 I tend to be somewhat impatient, and it's possible I guess that I run my 
 jig saw too fast.


 -Original Message-
 .From: Dale Leavens[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .Sent: 4/19/07 12:05:06 PM
 .To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 .Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line 
 DrawingBoard.htm
 .
 .Just an associated question,
 .
 .I have never found it very effective or efficient to try to follow lines 
 or
 .drawings or score marks with a saw. If deeply enough etched I can 
 generally
 .get the tip of a chisel accurately into it but otherwise, following with 
 a
 .saw and even planing down to it once really close I loose it in the 
 natural
 .grain. Following a scribe with a jig saw or scroll saw, can some of you
 .really do that?
 .
 .Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .Skype DaleLeavens
 .Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
 .
 .
 .- Original Message - 
 .From: Rob Monitor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 .Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:47 PM
 .Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Emailing: Future Aids - Raised-Line Drawing
 .Board.htm
 .
 .
 .Future Aids - Raised-Line Drawing BoardHi, I just got this raised drawing
 .board and I'm trying it for tracing shapes on to a piece of paper and 
 then
 .taking the paper and taping it to a board and cutting the shape with my
 .scroll saw... Let you guys know  how it goes in a day or two..
 .ROB and his LEADER DOG EDDY
 .
 .
 .
 .1-800-987-1231
 .
 .
 .Black-and-White Site
 .Departments
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .
 .About Us
 .
 .
 .
 . Sub-Departments in Toys and Games
 .
 .
 .  Raised-Line Drawing Board
 .  Make Tactile Pictures with a Regular Pen and Paper
 .   Larger Picture Here's a revolutionary new product! How many times 
 has
 .your blind child wanted to draw a picture - just like his sighted 
 friends?
 .Or have you (as a teacher) ever needed to draw your visually impaired
 .student a diagram that she can actually feel?
 .
 .  Our Tactile Drawing Board is a simple and effective tool you can 
 use
 .to do both these things - and more. Basically, you just place a regular 
 8.5
 .X 11 sheet of paper into the frame on this specially-designed wooden 
 board.
 .Then, using an ordinary pen or Braille stylus, simply draw whatever you
 .like - pressing firmly. Instantly, you'll be able to feel a clear outline 
 of
 .what you've drawn. And when you flip the page over, you'll have a
 .perfectly-raised diagram on the reverse side - and every detail will 
 easily
 .be felt.
 .
 .  Never before has there been such an awesome raised drawing system
 .available to the blind. Now, blind kids can draw pictures to their 
 hearts'
 .content; and, in seconds, parents and teachers can produce tactile 
 diagrams
 .of formerly visual concepts. Perhaps best of all, you don't need any
 .specialized, expensive plastic sheets or writing instruments to do it - 
 thin
 .copy paper or even thick Braille paper will work nicely!
 .
 .  Measures about 11 L, 10 W, .5 H.
 .
 .   Price: $14.95
 .  Quantity:
 .
 .Continue Shopping
 .
 .
 .  (From the Toy Department shelf.)
 .
 .
 .  Related Products:
 .   Wikki Stix
 .  Create all Sorts of Raised Crafts and Drawings
 .  $5.95
 .  Tell Me More
 .
 .   Peg-a-Shape
 .  Use Dot-Like Pegs to Make Pictures on Wood Board
 .  $9.95
 .  Tell Me