Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Kevin Doucet]

Sounds like tye rod problems.

Not sure but if that is the problem you need to park that thing 
untill you can get it fixed. If a tye rod givs up the ghost stearing 
is impossable!
Not makings for a good day!
At 10:12 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote:



>Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
>medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
>all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
>rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
>truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
>is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
>feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
>truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
>Lee
>
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confuse as says

Blind man with unmarked forehead has large belly!

Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Lee A. Stone]

  I'm laughing as now I can say to others here" I told you so . it is 
a 318 ". thanks for those tips  Bob. now I need to wait until the 
truck reappears. seems as the kid took off for the North country. 
Isn't it interesting that until we have a problem with a car or truck 
we do not find out what really  is under the hood. thanks.Lee


On Thu, 
Jun 26, 2008 at 
10:10:51PM -0400, Bob Kennedy wrote:
> Lee,
> 
> Don't know how much looking around you've done on that engine, but it is a 
> 318 minus 2 cylinders.  The pistons lifters valves are all the same sizes 
> there's just less of them.  
> 
> If you ever develop a rear main seal leak, buy the seal for the 318.  It's a 
> 2 piece and will go right in and work.  The 6 cylinder uses a rope seal and I 
> watched 3 different guys screw them up on the same truck when I worked for 
> Dodge.  Finally it came to my bay and I went to parts and ordered the seal 
> for a 318.  Took about 2 hours to change it out and never heard from the guy 
> again...  
> 
> The service manager wanted to know why I was able to fix it when 3 other guys 
> couldn't.  I asked him if he gave it to me to fix or screw up like they did.  
> I couldn't share my secret because of warranty issues but the crank measured 
> exactly the same diameter as the 318 so that was my cure...  
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Lee A. Stone 
>   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:44 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Mike and Barbara , thanks for your input on this truck. It is not 
>   mine but it belongs to my almost 29 year old son who thinks a pickup 
>   truck can do most anything. this truck has set still for almost 2 
>   years and i was totally surprised when he stuck a new battery in it 
>   that it started and the engine purrs like a kitten. it may be a 6 
>   cylinder but it sounds like a 318 when he starts it up. He is also a 
>   person with what we could call developmental disabilities and takes to 
>   much advice from friends who know diddly about what he needs to keep 
>   this truck on the road. I had a chance recently to rid with him for the 
>   day and it was like i was feeling for the toilet paper dispenser after 
>   hitting a few bumps. and feeling this once solid truck small as it is 
>   rolling from side to side. We can only hope he will sit still long 
>   enough for all the ideas shared on this list can be checked out. . 
>   thanks to all who have donated their time for responses. Lee
> 
>   On Thu, 
>   Jun 26, 
>   2008 at 05:04:14PM -0700, Mike & Barbara wrote:
>   > Hi Lee,
>   > 
>   > Your best bet is to get that truck up on a hoist and thoroughly check out 
>   > the front end. It could be a number of things like a bad Idler arm, a bad 
>   > ball joint, or bad control arm bushings. These are all guesses and hard 
> to 
>   > surmise without actually driving or looking at the vehicle. I have 
> rebuilt 
>   > hundreds of front ends but they were all older vehicles. There are many 
>   > reasons why your truck can be doing what it is doing and I for one would 
> not 
>   > want to jeopardize your safety by guessing. So please get it checked out. 
>   > Take care.
>   > 
>   > Mike
>   > 
>   > 
>   > - Original Message - 
>   > From: Lee A. Stone
>   > To: Blind Handyman
>   > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:12 AM
>   > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
>   > medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
>   > all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
>   > rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
>   > truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
>   > is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
>   > feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
>   > truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
>   > Lee
>   > 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Bob Kennedy]

Lee,

Don't know how much looking around you've done on that engine, but it is a 318 
minus 2 cylinders.  The pistons lifters valves are all the same sizes there's 
just less of them.  

If you ever develop a rear main seal leak, buy the seal for the 318.  It's a 2 
piece and will go right in and work.  The 6 cylinder uses a rope seal and I 
watched 3 different guys screw them up on the same truck when I worked for 
Dodge.  Finally it came to my bay and I went to parts and ordered the seal for 
a 318.  Took about 2 hours to change it out and never heard from the guy 
again...  

The service manager wanted to know why I was able to fix it when 3 other guys 
couldn't.  I asked him if he gave it to me to fix or screw up like they did.  I 
couldn't share my secret because of warranty issues but the crank measured 
exactly the same diameter as the 318 so that was my cure...  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?




  Mike and Barbara , thanks for your input on this truck. It is not 
  mine but it belongs to my almost 29 year old son who thinks a pickup 
  truck can do most anything. this truck has set still for almost 2 
  years and i was totally surprised when he stuck a new battery in it 
  that it started and the engine purrs like a kitten. it may be a 6 
  cylinder but it sounds like a 318 when he starts it up. He is also a 
  person with what we could call developmental disabilities and takes to 
  much advice from friends who know diddly about what he needs to keep 
  this truck on the road. I had a chance recently to rid with him for the 
  day and it was like i was feeling for the toilet paper dispenser after 
  hitting a few bumps. and feeling this once solid truck small as it is 
  rolling from side to side. We can only hope he will sit still long 
  enough for all the ideas shared on this list can be checked out. . 
  thanks to all who have donated their time for responses. Lee

  On Thu, 
  Jun 26, 
  2008 at 05:04:14PM -0700, Mike & Barbara wrote:
  > Hi Lee,
  > 
  > Your best bet is to get that truck up on a hoist and thoroughly check out 
  > the front end. It could be a number of things like a bad Idler arm, a bad 
  > ball joint, or bad control arm bushings. These are all guesses and hard to 
  > surmise without actually driving or looking at the vehicle. I have rebuilt 
  > hundreds of front ends but they were all older vehicles. There are many 
  > reasons why your truck can be doing what it is doing and I for one would 
not 
  > want to jeopardize your safety by guessing. So please get it checked out. 
  > Take care.
  > 
  > Mike
  > 
  > 
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Lee A. Stone
  > To: Blind Handyman
  > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:12 AM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
  > medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
  > all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
  > rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
  > truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
  > is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
  > feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
  > truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
  > Lee
  > 
  > -- 
  > Montana:
  > Where forty-three below keeps out the riff-raff.
  > Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net
  > 
  > 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Lee A. Stone]

Mike and Barbara , thanks for your input  on this truck. It is not 
mine but it belongs to my almost 29 year old  son who thinks a pickup 
truck can do most anything.  this truck has set still for almost 2 
years and i was totally surprised when he stuck a new  battery in it 
that it  started and the engine purrs like a kitten.  it may be a 6 
cylinder but it sounds like a 318 when he starts it up. He is also a 
person with what we could call developmental disabilities and takes to 
much advice from friends who know diddly about what  he needs to keep 
this truck on the road. I had a chance recently to rid with him for the 
day and  it was like i was feeling for the toilet paper dispenser after 
hitting a few bumps.  and feeling this once  solid truck small as it is 
rolling from side to side. We can only hope he will sit still long 
enough for all the ideas shared on this list can be checked out. .  
thanks to all who have donated their time for  responses. Lee


 On Thu, 
Jun 26, 
2008 at 05:04:14PM -0700, Mike & Barbara wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> 
> Your best bet is to get that truck up on a hoist and thoroughly check out 
> the front end.  It could be a number of things like a bad Idler arm, a bad 
> ball joint, or bad control arm bushings.  These are all guesses and hard to 
> surmise without actually driving or looking at the vehicle.  I have rebuilt 
> hundreds of front ends but they were all older vehicles.  There are many 
> reasons why your truck can be doing what it is doing and I for one would not 
> want to jeopardize your safety by guessing.  So please get it checked out. 
> Take care.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Lee A. Stone
>   To: Blind Handyman
>   Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:12 AM
>   Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
>   medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
>   all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
>   rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
>   truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
>   is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
>   feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
>   truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
>   Lee
> 
>   -- 
>   Montana:
>   Where forty-three below keeps out the riff-raff.
>   Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Lee A. Stone]

I will agree Bob to always replace  shocks in pairsl.. I need to find 
out if he has shocks or so called struts on this  2000 dodge pick up. 
again thanks for all the input. Lee


On Thu, Jun 
26, 2008 at 06:02:31PM -0400, Bob Kennedy wrote:
> Shocks control up and down not side to side.  So don't push it away from you 
> so much as trying to lift up on the fender under the wheel and see how easy 
> it moves.  It will feel like it is rolling side to side but it isn't.  
> Another way they used to teach was to put your knee on the bumper and then 
> put all your weight on that knee.  Then stand up and see if it continues to 
> bounce.  If it goes down and back up and doesn't stop there is a problem with 
> the shocks.  Always replace them in pairs.
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Lee A. Stone 
>   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:49 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?
> 
> 
> 
>   thanks , I'll try that tonight when he gets home from work. to rock 
>   the truck from side to side. Lee
> 
>   On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 
>   02:31:56PM -0400, Trouble wrote:
>   > Would say the front shocks are spent. If you can put your hand on the 
>   > fender and roll it back and forth with ease, there spent.
>   > 
>   > At 11:12 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote:
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > >Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
>   > >medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
>   > >all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
>   > >rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
>   > >truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
>   > >is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
>   > >feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
>   > >truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
>   > >Lee
>   > >
>   > >--
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Mike & Barbara]

Hi Lee,

Your best bet is to get that truck up on a hoist and thoroughly check out 
the front end.  It could be a number of things like a bad Idler arm, a bad 
ball joint, or bad control arm bushings.  These are all guesses and hard to 
surmise without actually driving or looking at the vehicle.  I have rebuilt 
hundreds of front ends but they were all older vehicles.  There are many 
reasons why your truck can be doing what it is doing and I for one would not 
want to jeopardize your safety by guessing.  So please get it checked out. 
Take care.

Mike


  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone
  To: Blind Handyman
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:12 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?




  Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
  medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
  all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
  rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
  truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
  is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
  feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
  truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
  Lee

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[NLG]

Hard to tell without being there.  Could be a tie rod end is worn out.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: Blind Handyman 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:12
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?




  Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six 
  medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road. 
  all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly 
  rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this 
  truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it 
  is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would 
  feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids 
  truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion. 
  Lee

  -- 
  Montana:
  Where forty-three below keeps out the riff-raff.
  Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net


   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Bob Kennedy]

Shocks control up and down not side to side.  So don't push it away from you so 
much as trying to lift up on the fender under the wheel and see how easy it 
moves.  It will feel like it is rolling side to side but it isn't.  Another way 
they used to teach was to put your knee on the bumper and then put all your 
weight on that knee.  Then stand up and see if it continues to bounce.  If it 
goes down and back up and doesn't stop there is a problem with the shocks.  
Always replace them in pairs.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?



  thanks , I'll try that tonight when he gets home from work. to rock 
  the truck from side to side. Lee

  On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 
  02:31:56PM -0400, Trouble wrote:
  > Would say the front shocks are spent. If you can put your hand on the 
  > fender and roll it back and forth with ease, there spent.
  > 
  > At 11:12 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote:
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > >Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
  > >medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
  > >all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
  > >rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
  > >truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
  > >is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
  > >feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
  > >truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
  > >Lee
  > >
  > >--
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Lee A. Stone]

thanks , I'll try that tonight when he  gets home from work.  to rock 
the truck from side to side. Lee


On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 
02:31:56PM -0400, Trouble wrote:
> Would say the front shocks are spent. If you can put your hand on the 
> fender and roll it back and forth with ease, there spent.
> 
> At 11:12 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
> >medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
> >all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
> >rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
> >truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
> >is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
> >feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
> >truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
> >Lee
> >
> >--
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> >Where forty-three below keeps out the riff-raff.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Trouble]

Would say the front shocks are spent. If you can put your hand on the 
fender and roll it back and forth with ease, there spent.

At 11:12 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote:



>Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge sport six
>medium size pickup truck and you hit a decent size bump in the road.
>all of a sudden your front end is all overy the place. seemingly
>rolling from side to side until you get settled back down. Maybe this
>truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it
>is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would
>feel like it is all over the place would be appreciated. It is my kids
>truck and I do not think it is safe out on the road. just my opinion.
>Lee
>
>--
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>Where forty-three below keeps out the riff-raff.
>Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net
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[BlindHandyMan] How is your front end?

[Lee A. Stone]

 Imagine if you would that you are riding in a 2000 Dodge  sport six  
medium size pickup  truck and  you hit  a decent size bump in the road. 
all of a sudden  your front end is all overy the place. seemingly 
rolling from side to side until you  get settled back down. Maybe this 
truck has been mis used as a four wheel drive in a farmers field when it 
is only a two wheel drive. any opinions as to why this front end would 
feel like it is all over the place would be  appreciated. It is my kids 
truck and I do not think it is safe  out on the road. just my opinion. 
Lee


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