Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
I have to step in here and say I have a Grillia which in fact can come apart and you can get a piece that would run between the two sections to make a tressle. Mine at least came with a set of curved pieces so that when the ladder is taken apart, you fit them to the curved pieces that make basically two step ladders. Now they aren't going to be very tall, but it would do the job for walking around a room to paint, patch, etc. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 6, 2007, at 12:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you. On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Edward Przybylek wrote: None of the ladders I looked at could be configured as a tressle. I think this would be a great feature, though. _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:51 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders so will the Gorilla make a tressle? On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Edward Przybylek wrote: I've seen three such ladders. Home Depot carries the Little Giant and the Gorrilla. These two ladders are virtually identical. The third ladder I saw of this type was one made by Werner. You can see the Werner at Lowe's. The Werner looks a little different than the Little Giant and Gorilla but it's function is the same. As I recall, the Werner extended to 22 feet. I own the Gorrilla and consider it to be one of my most useful tools. Take care, Ed _ From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Patricia Ferrin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:19 PM To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders You know I think there are actually two models probably from different companies. The gorilla and the little giant if memory serves. David Ferrin http://www.jaws- http://www.jaws- http://www.jaws-users.com users.com users.com - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
so will the Gorilla make a tressle? On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Edward Przybylek wrote: I've seen three such ladders. Home Depot carries the Little Giant and the Gorrilla. These two ladders are virtually identical. The third ladder I saw of this type was one made by Werner. You can see the Werner at Lowe's. The Werner looks a little different than the Little Giant and Gorilla but it's function is the same. As I recall, the Werner extended to 22 feet. I own the Gorrilla and consider it to be one of my most useful tools. Take care, Ed _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Patricia Ferrin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:19 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders You know I think there are actually two models probably from different companies. The gorilla and the little giant if memory serves. David Ferrin http://www.jaws- http://www.jaws-users.com users.com - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
None of the ladders I looked at could be configured as a tressle. I think this would be a great feature, though. _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:51 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders so will the Gorilla make a tressle? On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Edward Przybylek wrote: I've seen three such ladders. Home Depot carries the Little Giant and the Gorrilla. These two ladders are virtually identical. The third ladder I saw of this type was one made by Werner. You can see the Werner at Lowe's. The Werner looks a little different than the Little Giant and Gorilla but it's function is the same. As I recall, the Werner extended to 22 feet. I own the Gorrilla and consider it to be one of my most useful tools. Take care, Ed _ From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Patricia Ferrin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:19 PM To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders You know I think there are actually two models probably from different companies. The gorilla and the little giant if memory serves. David Ferrin http://www.jaws- http://www.jaws- http://www.jaws-users.com users.com users.com - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
thank you. On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Edward Przybylek wrote: None of the ladders I looked at could be configured as a tressle. I think this would be a great feature, though. _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:51 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders so will the Gorilla make a tressle? On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Edward Przybylek wrote: I've seen three such ladders. Home Depot carries the Little Giant and the Gorrilla. These two ladders are virtually identical. The third ladder I saw of this type was one made by Werner. You can see the Werner at Lowe's. The Werner looks a little different than the Little Giant and Gorilla but it's function is the same. As I recall, the Werner extended to 22 feet. I own the Gorrilla and consider it to be one of my most useful tools. Take care, Ed _ From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Patricia Ferrin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:19 PM To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders You know I think there are actually two models probably from different companies. The gorilla and the little giant if memory serves. David Ferrin http://www.jaws- http://www.jaws- http://www.jaws-users.com users.com users.com - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
I know a couple of years ago we had a discussion on this list about those Little Giant Ladders. Well I finally got the chance to try to pick one up in a Sams Club we went to. Not to buy it but just to heaft the thing. I'm thinking it weighs more than my old wooden two stage Ladder. It is also out of my price range, not that I am in the market to buy such a ladder. I own a basic 2 stage Al. ladder and a very old two stage wooden ladder which i inherited as it came with the last house and a six foot I think fiberglass step ladder. that little giant seems to me also that on days like today that it would be mighty slippery. L -- It's today! said Piglet. My favorite day, said Pooh. To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
If I ever need such an animal you can bet it will land in my garage real quick. They are slick for sure, my brother has one. David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone To: Blind Handyman Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders I know a couple of years ago we had a discussion on this list about those Little Giant Ladders. Well I finally got the chance to try to pick one up in a Sams Club we went to. Not to buy it but just to heaft the thing. I'm thinking it weighs more than my old wooden two stage Ladder. It is also out of my price range, not that I am in the market to buy such a ladder. I own a basic 2 stage Al. ladder and a very old two stage wooden ladder which i inherited as it came with the last house and a six foot I think fiberglass step ladder. that little giant seems to me also that on days like today that it would be mighty slippery. L -- It's today! said Piglet. My favorite day, said Pooh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
Home Depot sells the same ladder under a different name for about 1/3 of the cost. I do not recall the brand name it is sold under. the only regret I have with mine is that I didn't get the 20 foot instead of the 13 foot. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 09:21 To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders I know a couple of years ago we had a discussion on this list about those Little Giant Ladders. Well I finally got the chance to try to pick one up in a Sams Club we went to. Not to buy it but just to heaft the thing. I'm thinking it weighs more than my old wooden two stage Ladder. It is also out of my price range, not that I am in the market to buy such a ladder. I own a basic 2 stage Al. ladder and a very old two stage wooden ladder which i inherited as it came with the last house and a six foot I think fiberglass step ladder. that little giant seems to me also that on days like today that it would be mighty slippery. L -- It's today! said Piglet. My favorite day, said Pooh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
Could you describe these latters you are talking about? I have never heard of them. I have a friend that has a latter that kind of folds up I did not see how it works but I am wondering if is the same thing. It was very heavy. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Patricia Ferrin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:38 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders If I ever need such an animal you can bet it will land in my garage real quick. They are slick for sure, my brother has one. David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com http://www.jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone To: Blind Handyman Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders I know a couple of years ago we had a discussion on this list about those Little Giant Ladders. Well I finally got the chance to try to pick one up in a Sams Club we went to. Not to buy it but just to heaft the thing. I'm thinking it weighs more than my old wooden two stage Ladder. It is also out of my price range, not that I am in the market to buy such a ladder. I own a basic 2 stage Al. ladder and a very old two stage wooden ladder which i inherited as it came with the last house and a six foot I think fiberglass step ladder. that little giant seems to me also that on days like today that it would be mighty slippery. L -- It's today! said Piglet. My favorite day, said Pooh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
It seems to just collapse down sort of like an antenna just extends out from a radio. They can go straight out to lean against something or even be used as a free standing step latter. The real advantage as I see it is that once you're done using it takes up very little storage room, fold it up and stand it in the corner of a shed ETC. Certainly for somebody who doesn't have a garage or in another manner limited by space a must have for sure. David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: robert moore To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Could you describe these latters you are talking about? I have never heard of them. I have a friend that has a latter that kind of folds up I did not see how it works but I am wondering if is the same thing. It was very heavy. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Patricia Ferrin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:38 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders If I ever need such an animal you can bet it will land in my garage real quick. They are slick for sure, my brother has one. David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com http://www.jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone To: Blind Handyman Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders I know a couple of years ago we had a discussion on this list about those Little Giant Ladders. Well I finally got the chance to try to pick one up in a Sams Club we went to. Not to buy it but just to heaft the thing. I'm thinking it weighs more than my old wooden two stage Ladder. It is also out of my price range, not that I am in the market to buy such a ladder. I own a basic 2 stage Al. ladder and a very old two stage wooden ladder which i inherited as it came with the last house and a six foot I think fiberglass step ladder. that little giant seems to me also that on days like today that it would be mighty slippery. L -- It's today! said Piglet. My favorite day, said Pooh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
If I might expand on what Dave has explained about the Little Giant ladder. It has multiple sections of ladder that are hinged together and can lock into multiple positions. Thus, you can unfold the ladder completely and make a single long ladder. You can have it fold in the middle to make like an a frame step ladder. You can have say three sections on one side and one section on the other so that you can stand it on stairs or a hill. You can have the end sections vertical and the two middle sections horizontal and make a tressel or scaffold. Hope that explains it. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
At the risk of annoying someone, I have read more than one report about these ladders which insist that although at demonstration displays where the salesman flips the ladder about into and out of all sorts of configurations for tackling every imaginable climbing and trestle task apparently effortlessly, it is a very different thing to achieve on your own. I did however write this some months, maybe years ago now and was soundly told by a list member, don't remember who that the ladders are just wonderful. Clearly someone is buying them and lots of them. I have a 28 foot and 24 foot extension ladder both of which I find fairly difficult to wrestle about and all they do is go up and down. Mind you a 15 foot ladder would be half the weight and would provide a short trestle to a height useful I suppose around a single story house. Anyway, my advice is to be ware. Any serious use of a platform probably is best achieved with a proper scaffold. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype Dale Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders If I might expand on what Dave has explained about the Little Giant ladder. It has multiple sections of ladder that are hinged together and can lock into multiple positions. Thus, you can unfold the ladder completely and make a single long ladder. You can have it fold in the middle to make like an a frame step ladder. You can have say three sections on one side and one section on the other so that you can stand it on stairs or a hill. You can have the end sections vertical and the two middle sections horizontal and make a tressel or scaffold. Hope that explains it. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
You know I think there are actually two models probably from different companies. The gorilla and the little giant if memory serves. David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
the ladder I checked out at Sams Club was mostly still in the box. all I can say is that was no lightweight. I am with Dale. I've got enough trouble using a regular extension. Now if you were much younger than I and had the money . well to each their own.Lee -- It's today! said Piglet. My favorite day, said Pooh. To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
oh yes! This is what I didn't have when my height and a mop couldn't clean the walls and ceiling of the stairwell from smelling like dust a month ago. I am not longer willing to stand one foot on the railing and the rest of me out over the middle of the flight of stairs. Thees is so good! On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Dan Rossi wrote: If I might expand on what Dave has explained about the Little Giant ladder. It has multiple sections of ladder that are hinged together and can lock into multiple positions. Thus, you can unfold the ladder completely and make a single long ladder. You can have it fold in the middle to make like an a frame step ladder. You can have say three sections on one side and one section on the other so that you can stand it on stairs or a hill. You can have the end sections vertical and the two middle sections horizontal and make a tressel or scaffold. Hope that explains it. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
AH, I have been corrected. Not that I was wrong, I've never been wrong, I just wasn't absolutely correct. *GRIN* there are various ladders of this type, according to someone who owns a Little Giant Specifically, you can't use it as a tressel with the two ends vertical and the two middle pieces horizontal. You have to separate it and make two A frames and lay boards across the tops of the A frames. I know there is one version of this type of ladder that you can make a tressel out of though. So, make sure you read the box so you know exactly what you are getting. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
Yes a wile ago early one Sunday morning I was flipping around the TV channels and there was one of those info commercial on the little big latter or what ever its call. But Didn't watch it but I'm sure you could find it some early morning if you are up... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders oh yes! This is what I didn't have when my height and a mop couldn't clean the walls and ceiling of the stairwell from smelling like dust a month ago. I am not longer willing to stand one foot on the railing and the rest of me out over the middle of the flight of stairs. Thees is so good! On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Dan Rossi wrote: If I might expand on what Dave has explained about the Little Giant ladder. It has multiple sections of ladder that are hinged together and can lock into multiple positions. Thus, you can unfold the ladder completely and make a single long ladder. You can have it fold in the middle to make like an a frame step ladder. You can have say three sections on one side and one section on the other so that you can stand it on stairs or a hill. You can have the end sections vertical and the two middle sections horizontal and make a tressel or scaffold. Hope that explains it. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
I paid about $100 for my folding 13 foot ladder. I think the 20 foot goes for 200 bucks or so. So about 1/3 to 1/2 of the price of the Little giant. Comparing my Gorilla ladder, I now recall the brand, to my cousins Little Giant, they are exactly the same. take the labels off and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I weigh about 275, and the Gorilla ladder hasn't broken or bent under my use and abuse. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 13:13 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
Great info here. I'll have to keep this post. Don - Original Message - From: Michael Baldwin To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders I paid about $100 for my folding 13 foot ladder. I think the 20 foot goes for 200 bucks or so. So about 1/3 to 1/2 of the price of the Little giant. Comparing my Gorilla ladder, I now recall the brand, to my cousins Little Giant, they are exactly the same. take the labels off and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I weigh about 275, and the Gorilla ladder hasn't broken or bent under my use and abuse. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 13:13 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
I've seen three such ladders. Home Depot carries the Little Giant and the Gorrilla. These two ladders are virtually identical. The third ladder I saw of this type was one made by Werner. You can see the Werner at Lowe's. The Werner looks a little different than the Little Giant and Gorilla but it's function is the same. As I recall, the Werner extended to 22 feet. I own the Gorrilla and consider it to be one of my most useful tools. Take care, Ed _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Patricia Ferrin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:19 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders You know I think there are actually two models probably from different companies. The gorilla and the little giant if memory serves. David Ferrin http://www.jaws- http://www.jaws-users.com users.com - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
Hi Mike, I think you might be wrong about the Little Giant and the Gorrilla being identical. If memory serves, the Little Giant is 19 feet tall and the Gorrilla is 18 feet 11 inches. smile I'm not sure if those are exactly the right numbers but I do remember it being a difference of an inch or so. I think this is the way they get around any patent enfringement and the like. Take care, Ed _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:27 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders I paid about $100 for my folding 13 foot ladder. I think the 20 foot goes for 200 bucks or so. So about 1/3 to 1/2 of the price of the Little giant. Comparing my Gorilla ladder, I now recall the brand, to my cousins Little Giant, they are exactly the same. take the labels off and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I weigh about 275, and the Gorilla ladder hasn't broken or bent under my use and abuse. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 13:13 To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type ladders? Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home depot for a third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea of what that cost is? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
