Re: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again
Max, the following is a copy of a post that I sent to this list a couple years ago. Hope it helps. The recent interest in measuring devices on this list prompts me to describe a couple of types of measuring gages or jigs that I built about 25 years ago, and that I still use to day. The first was made with a 4 foot length of 3/16 stainless steel rod and 2 pieces of ¾ square steel bar stock about 1 and ¼ long. The idea is to permanently affix one of the pieces of bar stock perpendicular to one end of the rod, either by gas welding or by threading the end of the rod and drilling and tapping the bar stock. The other piece of bar stock is drilled perpendicular to it's long axes, so it can slide smoothly along the rod. A second hole is drilled in this piece of bar stock parallel to it's long axes, which intersects the first whole. This second whole is tapped to accommodate a threaded bolt that acts as a set screw to lock the sliding square stock at any point along the rod. I used a bolt with a large knurled head that could be easily tightened or loosened by hand for the locking bolt. To use this device, I align the end of the rod with the fixed block at one end of the measurement to be taken, and slide and tighten the movable block at the other end of the piece or gap to be measured. I then can transfer this measurement to a board for cutting or use it to set stop blocks on a chop saw or set a fence on a table saw. I have found this device to be quick to use and accurate enough for cabinet work. Over the years I have built several shorter versions of this device for use in tight areas. My second home made device has turned out to be especially handy for installing base boards, door trim, interior studs or wall paneling. It is primarily made out of wood and it telescopes from 4 to 8 feet in length, and can be locked at any point between. It is made from a 4 Foot, clear ¾ pine board about 2 Inches wide. I cut a 3/8 Inch deep by ¾ Inch wide groove down the center of one of the 2 Inch faces of the board and ripped a 4 Foot strip of pine to slide smoothly in the groove. I next cut a 4 Foot long by 2 Inch piece of ¼ plywood and glued and nailed it over the groove in the pine board, to make a 4 Foot box or sleeve for the pine strip to slide in. I then cut a 2 by 2 Inch ¾ Inch thick pine block and drilled a ¼ whole in its center. Next I temporarily aligned this block on the plywood side covering the groove at one end of the device and with the sliding strip removed, I extended the ¼ Inched Whole through the plywood, into the groove, but not into the pine board at the bottom of the groove. Next I tightly mortised a ¼ square nut into the face of the 2 by 2 Inch block so it lines up with a threaded bolt inserted through the whole in the block and is flush with one face of the block. With a ¼ bolt threaded through the block and nut, and protruding about ½ inch below the nut I inserted the end of the locking bolt through the plywood side and into the groove below. I then glued and nailed the block and locking bolt assembly to the plywood side covering the groove. With the sliding pine strip inserted into the groove the threaded bolt on the block can be tightened to lock the strip in any position between 4 and 8 Feet. To use the device I align one of its ends with a wall or the floor and slide out the strip to make the needed measurement. With the locking bolt tightened this measurement can then be transferred to a board or panel for accurate cutting. I don't use this jig often, but it's nice to know that it is hanging on the shop wall when the need arises. I think that it has taken me longer to describe this stuff than it took to build it. Sorry for being so long winded. Paul Franklin - Original Message - From: Agent086b To: Handyman Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:15 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again Hi all, some months ago there was a lot of discussion on a measuring stick. I seam to remember that you slide a stick in to a tube and lock it somehow. Unfortunately I have lost the email describing how to build one of these things. I have a talking tape measure, but I would like some sort of telescopic thing I can take a measurement between two pieces and transfer that measurement to a piece of timber before cutting it off to the same length. I don't need to know how many millimetres it is just to keep that length. Hope you all understand what I am trying to do. Max. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4568 (20091103) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4568 (20091103) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again
Paul, thanks for this. I think this is the message I had seen before. Max. Paul Franklin wrote: Max, the following is a copy of a post that I sent to this list a couple years ago. Hope it helps. The recent interest in measuring devices on this list prompts me to describe a couple of types of measuring gages or jigs that I built about 25 years ago, and that I still use to day. The first was made with a 4 foot length of 3/16 stainless steel rod and 2 pieces of ¾ square steel bar stock about 1 and ¼ long. The idea is to permanently affix one of the pieces of bar stock perpendicular to one end of the rod, either by gas welding or by threading the end of the rod and drilling and tapping the bar stock. The other piece of bar stock is drilled perpendicular to it's long axes, so it can slide smoothly along the rod. A second hole is drilled in this piece of bar stock parallel to it's long axes, which intersects the first whole. This second whole is tapped to accommodate a threaded bolt that acts as a set screw to lock the sliding square stock at any point along the rod. I used a bolt with a large knurled head that could be easily tightened or loosened by hand for the locking bolt. To use this device, I align the end of the rod with the fixed block at one end of the measurement to be taken, and slide and tighten the movable block at the other end of the piece or gap to be measured. I then can transfer this measurement to a board for cutting or use it to set stop blocks on a chop saw or set a fence on a table saw. I have found this device to be quick to use and accurate enough for cabinet work. Over the years I have built several shorter versions of this device for use in tight areas. My second home made device has turned out to be especially handy for installing base boards, door trim, interior studs or wall paneling. It is primarily made out of wood and it telescopes from 4 to 8 feet in length, and can be locked at any point between. It is made from a 4 Foot, clear ¾ pine board about 2 Inches wide. I cut a 3/8 Inch deep by ¾ Inch wide groove down the center of one of the 2 Inch faces of the board and ripped a 4 Foot strip of pine to slide smoothly in the groove. I next cut a 4 Foot long by 2 Inch piece of ¼ plywood and glued and nailed it over the groove in the pine board, to make a 4 Foot box or sleeve for the pine strip to slide in. I then cut a 2 by 2 Inch ¾ Inch thick pine block and drilled a ¼ whole in its center. Next I temporarily aligned this block on the plywood side covering the groove at one end of the device and with the sliding strip removed, I extended the ¼ Inched Whole through the plywood, into the groove, but not into the pine board at the bottom of the groove. Next I tightly mortised a ¼ square nut into the face of the 2 by 2 Inch block so it lines up with a threaded bolt inserted through the whole in the block and is flush with one face of the block. With a ¼ bolt threaded through the block and nut, and protruding about ½ inch below the nut I inserted the end of the locking bolt through the plywood side and into the groove below. I then glued and nailed the block and locking bolt assembly to the plywood side covering the groove. With the sliding pine strip inserted into the groove the threaded bolt on the block can be tightened to lock the strip in any position between 4 and 8 Feet. To use the device I align one of its ends with a wall or the floor and slide out the strip to make the needed measurement. With the locking bolt tightened this measurement can then be transferred to a board or panel for accurate cutting. I don't use this jig often, but it's nice to know that it is hanging on the shop wall when the need arises. I think that it has taken me longer to describe this stuff than it took to build it. Sorry for being so long winded. Paul Franklin - Original Message - From: Agent086b To: Handyman Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:15 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again Hi all, some months ago there was a lot of discussion on a measuring stick. I seam to remember that you slide a stick in to a tube and lock it somehow. Unfortunately I have lost the email describing how to build one of these things. I have a talking tape measure, but I would like some sort of telescopic thing I can take a measurement between two pieces and transfer that measurement to a piece of timber before cutting it off to the same length. I don't need to know how many millimetres it is just to keep that length. Hope you all understand what I am trying to do. Max. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4568 (20091103) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information
[BlindHandyMan] Measuring again
Hi all, some months ago there was a lot of discussion on a measuring stick. I seam to remember that you slide a stick in to a tube and lock it somehow. Unfortunately I have lost the email describing how to build one of these things. I have a talking tape measure, but I would like some sort of telescopic thing I can take a measurement between two pieces and transfer that measurement to a piece of timber before cutting it off to the same length. I don't need to know how many millimetres it is just to keep that length. Hope you all understand what I am trying to do. Max.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again
Max, I think they're called story sticks and I think there is some stuff about them on the BHM files page. I sometimes use my clickrule just like a story stick, but havn't actually built one yet. When I think of making one I always start getting too complicated. GRIN Tom Fowle On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:15:08AM +1100, Agent086b wrote: Hi all, some months ago there was a lot of discussion on a measuring stick. I seam to remember that you slide a stick in to a tube and lock it somehow. Unfortunately I have lost the email describing how to build one of these things. I have a talking tape measure, but I would like some sort of telescopic thing I can take a measurement between two pieces and transfer that measurement to a piece of timber before cutting it off to the same length. I don't need to know how many millimetres it is just to keep that length. Hope you all understand what I am trying to do. Max.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again
Tom, You are a man after my own heart. Why do something simple and easy when you can make it much more complicated. It is so much fun to complexicate a project. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again
Thanks I will take a look at that page. Don't think I can purchase a click Ruel here in Australia. Max. Tom Fowle wrote: Max, I think they're called story sticks and I think there is some stuff about them on the BHM files page. I sometimes use my clickrule just like a story stick, but havn't actually built one yet. When I think of making one I always start getting too complicated. GRIN Tom Fowle On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:15:08AM +1100, Agent086b wrote: Hi all, some months ago there was a lot of discussion on a measuring stick. I seam to remember that you slide a stick in to a tube and lock it somehow. Unfortunately I have lost the email describing how to build one of these things. I have a talking tape measure, but I would like some sort of telescopic thing I can take a measurement between two pieces and transfer that measurement to a piece of timber before cutting it off to the same length. I don't need to know how many millimetres it is just to keep that length. Hope you all understand what I am trying to do. Max. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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hi Dan that is the best use of the word complexicate in a sentence i have heard all year. in fact i have added it to my spell check dictionary. grin Jim in Minnesota [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again
Max, I think NFB has something about international ordering? Aren't they supposed to help the blind? tom On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:41:31AM +1100, Agent086b wrote: Thanks I will take a look at that page. Don't think I can purchase a click Ruel here in Australia. Max. Tom Fowle wrote: Max, I think they're called story sticks and I think there is some stuff about them on the BHM files page. I sometimes use my clickrule just like a story stick, but havn't actually built one yet. When I think of making one I always start getting too complicated. GRIN Tom Fowle On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:15:08AM +1100, Agent086b wrote: Hi all, some months ago there was a lot of discussion on a measuring stick. I seam to remember that you slide a stick in to a tube and lock it somehow. Unfortunately I have lost the email describing how to build one of these things. I have a talking tape measure, but I would like some sort of telescopic thing I can take a measurement between two pieces and transfer that measurement to a piece of timber before cutting it off to the same length. I don't need to know how many millimetres it is just to keep that length. Hope you all understand what I am trying to do. Max. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Measuring again
Thanks, I will check this out. Tom Fowle wrote: Max, I think NFB has something about international ordering? Aren't they supposed to help the blind? tom On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:41:31AM +1100, Agent086b wrote: Thanks I will take a look at that page. Don't think I can purchase a click Ruel here in Australia. Max. Tom Fowle wrote: Max, I think they're called story sticks and I think there is some stuff about them on the BHM files page. I sometimes use my clickrule just like a story stick, but havn't actually built one yet. When I think of making one I always start getting too complicated. GRIN Tom Fowle On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:15:08AM +1100, Agent086b wrote: Hi all, some months ago there was a lot of discussion on a measuring stick. I seam to remember that you slide a stick in to a tube and lock it somehow. Unfortunately I have lost the email describing how to build one of these things. I have a talking tape measure, but I would like some sort of telescopic thing I can take a measurement between two pieces and transfer that measurement to a piece of timber before cutting it off to the same length. I don't need to know how many millimetres it is just to keep that length. Hope you all understand what I am trying to do. Max. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
