Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-13 Thread John E Sherrer 
Many years ago, a friend of mine worked for a company that made metal paint, 
both brush on and cans of spray paint.  They said that rustolium was the best 
on the market and that the red was the bewst since it requires the most pigment.
My friend must not have liked his job, since I met him in the Army.

John
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.



  my daughter just had her roof painted. The roofers used wire brushes and 
  sand paper. I do not know if they washed it or not. They did use two coats 
  of rustolium roof paint. Their neighbor had a different contractor do 
  similar work but used a paint from Sherwin Williams that is made by 
  rustolium. Some how I do not think that rustolium would make a product for 
  someone else that is better than their name brand product.
  Years ago when I had some tin roofs my dad and I painted with an aluminum 
  paint that he purchased from Alcoa when he worked there. Again all we did 
  was wire brush and sand. There was one place where there was some pin holes 
  and he soldered a piece of tin over that area. Last year I switched 
  everything to rubber which will most likely outlast me.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Dan Rossi" 
  To: "Blind Handyman List" 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

  Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is
  need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:

  Scrape or sand,
  thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
  dry,
  prime,
  paint two coats.

  Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?

  My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint
  everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did
  some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, didn't
  prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold
  up, but I'm no painter.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081

  

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-12 Thread Cy Selfridge 
Hmm, most interesting indeed.

I purchased an old house (1915 ventage) and it came with a garage which was
made entirely of tin. I do not know when the garage was built but it had
been painted all white. All of the timber in the garage was completely
rotted out. The poor old thing looked as though it could fall over at any
moment but when we made an addition to the house the garage had to go.

They had an awful time tearing down the garage as it was extremely well
glued together - by the paint. 

I think there is probably something to be said about the oil based paint and
galvenized metal.

(LOLLOLLOL)

Cy, the Anasazi (LOLLOLLOL) t

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:08 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

 

  

Jeff,

Thanks for the input. If oil based paints are not to be used on 
galvanized metal, what would they have used 80 years ago? I believe that 
water based paints weren't around that long ago.

Nothing I read so far mentioned this problem with Zinc and oil based 
paints. although I just found a page on Sherman Williams that mentions 
the problem.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> 
Tel: (412) 268-9081





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-12 Thread Dan Rossi 
Jeff,

Thanks for the input.  If oil based paints are not to be used on 
galvanized metal, what would they have used 80 years ago?  I believe that 
water based paints weren't around that long ago.

Nothing I read so far mentioned this problem with Zinc and oil based 
paints.  although I just found a page on Sherman Williams that mentions 
the problem.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-11 Thread Geoff Eden 
Good morning Dan, which you refer to as tin, is most probably galvanized 
sheeting, hence the surface would be zinc.  Years ago when attempting two use 
anti-rrust paint on a galvanized railing, I was told that standard oil paints 
deteriorate in the presence of zinc, the fatty acids breakdown.

I was told to use clear automobile primer, but I'm certain there are many more 
choices today.

If this sheeting is, in fact, aluminum, then a chromium primer is necessary for 
adherents.

I thought it would be useful to raise the above.

Geoff

,

From: Dan Rossi 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:02 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.


  
As I was writing my original question about painting a tin roof, I said to 
myself, "Self, I bet Cy will have done this before, he's going to be the 
man with the answer."

Thanks, and glad to see you back on the list.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-08 Thread Art Rizzino 
Yes the silver seal paint does change the color of the shingled roof but it 
does stop the leaks if you have any.
Art
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Paganelli 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.



  Wouldn't that look like crap on a black shingled roof though?

  Alan

  Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!

  The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
  available upon request.

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Art Rizzino" 
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

  > Dan the stuff that I have been around is called something like silver 
  > seal. Make sure that you get the stuff with the fiber in it. It will 
  > require a lot of stirring before applying. Sighted people can see silver 
  > like flakes in the paint.
  > You want a stiff bristled brush so you can work the paint in to cracks and 
  > seams to seal them well. This stuff can be used on aluminum, metal, 
  > shingled and flat roofs. It is amazing stuff. It does stop leaks.
  > Art
  > -- Original Message - 
  > From: Dan Rossi
  > To: Blind Handyman List
  > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.
  >
  >
  >
  > Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is
  > need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:
  >
  > Scrape or sand,
  > thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
  > dry,
  > prime,
  > paint two coats.
  >
  > Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?
  >
  > My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint
  > everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did
  > some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, 
  > didn't
  > prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold
  > up, but I'm no painter.
  >
  > -- 
  > Blue skies.
  > Dan Rossi
  > Carnegie Mellon University.
  > E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  > Tel: (412) 268-9081
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >
  >
  > 
  >
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-08 Thread Cy Selfridge 
Hi,

The aluminized tar is reflective and it also does sure cut down on the heat
problem. The tar (or white fiber) coating also helps tremendously in the
winter with heat loss.

Both also sure cut down on wind and other noise.

Cy

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:44 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

 

  

I do not have a trailer, so this is just speculation, but would a wihite
roof not be a big help with the heat problem in a trailer?

Are there other things you can do to help cool a trailer?

Jennifer

_ 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:57 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

Hi Folks,

Having lived in mobile homes for a considerable number of years I am very
familiar with the aluminized tar roofing compound. It flat works *very*
well. Be very careful not to get the roof coating which is white because it
does not hold up anywhere nearly as well as the old fashioned black stuff.

The aluminized tar usually comes in a 5 gallon bucket and, yup, your
correct, it will require a lot of vigerous stirring. I purchased a paddle
which (supposedly) fits on a 3/8 drill but a ½ inch sure would be a lot
better fit.

I had a Sears best 3/8 inch ac drill which easily handeled the very heavy
load without complaint and made the stirring project as easy as stirring a
mixed drink.

Coverage is pretty small and the claimed coverage is pretty blamed close to
right on.

When properly applied you will see a sort of silver sheen from the coating.
It will weather off in a couple of years depending on what it is applied to.

The hotter it gets when the coating is applied the better as it sure does
improve the bonding.

HTH,

Cy, The Anasazi 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:11 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

Wouldn't that look like crap on a black shingled roof though?

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.

- Original Message - 
From: "Art Rizzino" mailto:arizzino%40verizon.net>
<mailto:arizzino%40verizon.net>
<mailto:arizzino%40verizon.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

> Dan the stuff that I have been around is called something like silver 
> seal. Make sure that you get the stuff with the fiber in it. It will 
> require a lot of stirring before applying. Sighted people can see silver 
> like flakes in the paint.
> You want a stiff bristled brush so you can work the paint in to cracks and

> seams to seal them well. This stuff can be used on aluminum, metal, 
> shingled and flat roofs. It is amazing stuff. It does stop leaks.
> Art
> -- Original Message ----- 
> From: Dan Rossi
> To: Blind Handyman List
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.
>
>
>
> Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is
> need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:
>
> Scrape or sand,
> thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
> dry,
> prime,
> paint two coats.
>
> Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?
>
> My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint
> everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did
> some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, 
> didn't
> prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold
> up, but I'm no painter.
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu>
<mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu>
<mailto:d

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-08 Thread Jennifer Jackson 
I do not have a trailer, so this is just speculation, but would a wihite
roof not be a big help with the heat problem in a trailer?

 

Are there other things you can do to help cool a trailer?

 

 

Jennifer



 

  _  

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:57 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

 

  

Hi Folks,

Having lived in mobile homes for a considerable number of years I am very
familiar with the aluminized tar roofing compound. It flat works *very*
well. Be very careful not to get the roof coating which is white because it
does not hold up anywhere nearly as well as the old fashioned black stuff.

The aluminized tar usually comes in a 5 gallon bucket and, yup, your
correct, it will require a lot of vigerous stirring. I purchased a paddle
which (supposedly) fits on a 3/8 drill but a ½ inch sure would be a lot
better fit.

I had a Sears best 3/8 inch ac drill which easily handeled the very heavy
load without complaint and made the stirring project as easy as stirring a
mixed drink.

Coverage is pretty small and the claimed coverage is pretty blamed close to
right on.

When properly applied you will see a sort of silver sheen from the coating.
It will weather off in a couple of years depending on what it is applied to.

The hotter it gets when the coating is applied the better as it sure does
improve the bonding.

HTH,

Cy, The Anasazi 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:11 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

Wouldn't that look like crap on a black shingled roof though?

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.

- Original Message - 
From: "Art Rizzino" mailto:arizzino%40verizon.net>
<mailto:arizzino%40verizon.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

> Dan the stuff that I have been around is called something like silver 
> seal. Make sure that you get the stuff with the fiber in it. It will 
> require a lot of stirring before applying. Sighted people can see silver 
> like flakes in the paint.
> You want a stiff bristled brush so you can work the paint in to cracks and

> seams to seal them well. This stuff can be used on aluminum, metal, 
> shingled and flat roofs. It is amazing stuff. It does stop leaks.
> Art
> -- Original Message - 
> From: Dan Rossi
> To: Blind Handyman List
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.
>
>
>
> Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is
> need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:
>
> Scrape or sand,
> thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
> dry,
> prime,
> paint two coats.
>
> Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?
>
> My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint
> everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did
> some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, 
> didn't
> prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold
> up, but I'm no painter.
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu>
<mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> 
> Tel: (412) 268-9081
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> 
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-08 Thread Cy Selfridge 
Hi Folks,

Having lived in mobile homes for a considerable number of years I am very
familiar with the aluminized tar roofing compound. It flat works *very*
well. Be very careful not to get the roof coating which is white because it
does not hold up anywhere nearly as well as the old fashioned black stuff.

The aluminized tar usually comes in a 5 gallon bucket and, yup, your
correct, it will require a lot of vigerous stirring. I purchased a paddle
which (supposedly) fits on a 3/8 drill but a ½ inch sure would be a lot
better fit.

I had a Sears best 3/8 inch ac drill which easily handeled the very heavy
load without complaint and made the stirring project as easy as stirring a
mixed drink.

Coverage is pretty small and the claimed coverage is pretty blamed close to
right on.

When properly applied you will see a sort of silver sheen from the coating.
It will weather off in a couple of years depending on what it is applied to.

The hotter it gets when the coating is applied the better as it sure does
improve the bonding.

HTH,

Cy, The Anasazi  

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:11 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

 

  

Wouldn't that look like crap on a black shingled roof though?

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.

- Original Message - 
From: "Art Rizzino" mailto:arizzino%40verizon.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

> Dan the stuff that I have been around is called something like silver 
> seal. Make sure that you get the stuff with the fiber in it. It will 
> require a lot of stirring before applying. Sighted people can see silver 
> like flakes in the paint.
> You want a stiff bristled brush so you can work the paint in to cracks and

> seams to seal them well. This stuff can be used on aluminum, metal, 
> shingled and flat roofs. It is amazing stuff. It does stop leaks.
> Art
> -- Original Message - 
> From: Dan Rossi
> To: Blind Handyman List
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.
>
>
>
> Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is
> need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:
>
> Scrape or sand,
> thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
> dry,
> prime,
> paint two coats.
>
> Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?
>
> My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint
> everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did
> some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, 
> didn't
> prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold
> up, but I'm no painter.
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> 
> Tel: (412) 268-9081
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> 
>
> Send any questions regarding list management to:
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> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-08 Thread Alan Paganelli 
Wouldn't that look like crap on a black shingled roof though?

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.

- Original Message - 
From: "Art Rizzino" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.


> Dan the stuff that I have been around is called something like silver 
> seal.  Make sure that you get the stuff with the fiber in it.  It will 
> require a lot of stirring before applying.  Sighted people can see silver 
> like flakes in the paint.
> You want a stiff bristled brush so you can work the paint in to cracks and 
> seams to seal them well.  This stuff can be used on aluminum, metal, 
> shingled and flat roofs.  It is amazing stuff.  It does stop leaks.
> Art
>  -- Original Message - 
>  From: Dan Rossi
>  To: Blind Handyman List
>  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.
>
>
>
>  Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is
>  need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:
>
>  Scrape or sand,
>  thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
>  dry,
>  prime,
>  paint two coats.
>
>  Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?
>
>  My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint
>  everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did
>  some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, 
> didn't
>  prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold
>  up, but I'm no painter.
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Art Rizzino 
Dan the stuff that I have been around is called something like silver seal.  
Make sure that you get the stuff with the fiber in it.  It will require a lot 
of stirring before applying.  Sighted people can see silver like flakes in the 
paint.
You want a stiff bristled brush so you can work the paint in to cracks and 
seams to seal them well.  This stuff can be used on aluminum, metal, shingled 
and flat roofs.  It is amazing stuff.  It does stop leaks.
Art
  -- Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.



  Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is 
  need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:

  Scrape or sand,
  thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
  dry,
  prime,
  paint two coats.

  Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?

  My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint 
  everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did 
  some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, didn't 
  prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold 
  up, but I'm no painter.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Rick Hume 
My dad just coated his metal roof for the second time.  He uses White Coat, the 
product made for coating the roofs on mobile homes.  The first coat held up for 
a dozen years.  If it hadn't appeared that it needed a new coat, he wouldn't 
have bothered.  There was some discoloration from leaves dropping on it, etc., 
but after they power washed it before coating it, dad said it looked like new 
again.  It's pretty cool stuff.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.



  Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is 
  need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:

  Scrape or sand,
  thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
  dry,
  prime,
  paint two coats.

  Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?

  My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint 
  everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did 
  some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, didn't 
  prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold 
  up, but I'm no painter.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Donnie Parrett 
May I add that it would probably be a little more comfortable to paint it in 
the heat of the night
instead of in the heat of the day!!!

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[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:49 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.


Dan,

I would go along with a coat of Rustoleum *PRIMER* followed by a nice coat
of whatever color you want.

I would also hit it pretty heavy with a stiff wire brush followed by a
thorough rinse and then allow it to completely dry in the sun.

I would apply the primer in the morning as soon as the dew is gone and allow
it to bake in the summer sun for a day then apply the final coat.

Cy, The Anasazi



From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:37 AM
To: Blind Handyman List
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.





Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is
need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:

Scrape or sand,
thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
dry,
prime,
paint two coats.

Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?

My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint
everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did
some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, didn't
prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold
up, but I'm no painter.

--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu>
Tel: (412) 268-9081





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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Sheryl Nelson 
Aloha everyone,

I remember telling you about "cool wall paint" by 
the way it is the best single product I used for 
my house.  Of course I like other products too 
but this paint works.  They have other products 
too so am sending the information again with the company contact information.
I am sending a link to their company Perhaps they 
will have a product for a metal roof that you might consider.

* texcote of America web page: http://www.texcote.com/
* Phone: 800-454-0340
* Fax: 850-913-8619
* Email: i...@texcote.com

What I sent to the list earlier below.
Many people paint their houses in the summer so 
thought I would share. When you visit Hawaii 
Smile you can feel the surface of my house which 
is not hot even with direct sun. When I was 
researching products for my house I looked for 
things to keep the house cooler with out having 
air conditioning. During the research I found 
many products including "cool wall paint."
Didn't think paint would matter but it does. Glad 
I found the paint before I painted. The "cool 
wall paint" is the one single product I would 
tell people about. It cost about $10.00 more per 
gallon than other paints and is for the exterior 
only. For my house the total cost addition was 
around $150.00 to $180.00. I figured this either 
would be good money spent or not. Turns out is great money spent.

My bedroom is on the west side of the house. When 
I baught the house there was a window air 
conditioner in it. I have removed the window air 
conditioner and can sleep comfortably now. The 
windows and paint along with the solar fan in the attic do make a difference.

ng News - 2006
Textured Coatings Innovative Coating System Keeps Homes Cooler

For every homeowner who has struggled to find 
ways to hold down the cost of air conditioning without
sacrificing comfort, recent tests by the U.S. 
Department of Energy offer promising results. Recently
completed tests at the Oak Ridge National 
Laboratory showed that an innovative exterior coating
system from Textured Coatings of America Inc. can 
reduce a typical home’s air-conditioning costs by
over 20 percent by actually keeping the home’s interior cooler.

The tests conducted for over a year measured the 
performance of TEX•COTE® SUPER•COTE™
Cool Wall™ premium coatings. The DOE tests found 
that not only did the product’s revolutionary heat
reflective finish significantly reduce exterior 
wall temperatures, it also dramatically lowered interior
temperatures on cement block, stucco and 
wood-frame homes, according to Jay Haines, TCA’s
president and chief executive officer.

“The DOE tests confirmed that the Cool Wall™ 
coating reduced exterior wall temperatures by as
much as 40 degrees Fahrenheit when compared to 
traditional paints and coatings in many colors,”
said Haines. “What’s more important is that the 
test data showed that the Cool Wall coating would
reduce the interior temperatures as well, and 
could lower the costs of cooling a typical
1,100-square-foot ranch-style home by as much as 
21.9 percent depending on the color chosen,
substrate type and climatic conditions.”

TEX•COTE® SUPER•COTE™ Cool Wall™ coatings take 
advantage of the same heat reflective
technology used by the military to reduce the 
heat signature of planes and other vehicles, Haines
explained. Since the increase in reflectivity 
occurs primarily in the infrared spectrum, it is invisible to
the naked eye. Yet although the Cool Wall™ colors 
may look the same as a traditional finish, the DOE
tests show that, on average, they are up to 100 
percent more reflective than the conventional
technologies.

“A dark-colored home absorbs as much as 90 
percent of the solar radiation that strikes it, and even
white walls can absorb solar radiation,” Haines 
noted. “By reflecting this infrared radiation rather than
absorbing it, the Cool Wall™ coatings 
dramatically reduce the load on a home’s air-conditioning
system. And because they are reflective, they are 
less prone to fading – even dark colors stay darker
longer than conventional paint technologies.”

The most extensive DOE tests were conducted at 
the Oak Ridge test site in Tennessee, with
additional tests conducted at actual homes in 
Jacksonville, Fla., and Phoenix, Ariz.

“Obviously, the savings vary depending on the 
home’s location, as well as its construction type, its
orientation to the sun, surrounding shade 
features and so forth,” said Haines. “But the DOE tests
confirmed a measurable and significant difference 
in the energy required to cool the home in all
instances.”

In addition to energy savings, the tests showed 
that infrared reflective coatings are significantly more
fade resistant, even in darker colors, Haines 
said. The coatings also can reduce stress or “building
fatigue” by minimizing the expansion and 
contraction of the home’s exterior that occurs during
extreme fluctuations in temperature. The 
reflective coatings can also reduce the “heat

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Lenny McHugh 
my daughter just had her roof painted. The roofers used wire brushes and 
sand paper. I do not know if they washed it or not. They did use two coats 
of rustolium roof paint. Their neighbor had a different contractor do 
similar work but used a paint from Sherwin Williams that is made by 
rustolium. Some how I do not think that rustolium would make a product for 
someone else that is better than their name brand product.
Years ago when I had some tin roofs my dad and I painted with an aluminum 
paint that he purchased from Alcoa when he worked there. Again all we did 
was wire brush and sand. There was one place where there was some pin holes 
and he soldered a piece of tin over that area. Last year I switched 
everything to rubber which will most likely outlast me.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Rossi" 
To: "Blind Handyman List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:37 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.


Anyone have experience painting a tin roof?  My porch roof is tin and is
need of a little TLC.  Everything I've read so far basically says:

Scrape or sand,
thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
dry,
prime,
paint two coats.

Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?

My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint
everyone's porch roof, for a fee.  I think his fee is too high, and he did
some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, didn't
prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint.  I don't think that will hold
up, but I'm no painter.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081




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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Cy Selfridge 
Dan,

Yup, I have all kinds of answers and, believe it or not, some of them
actually work. (LOLLOLLOL)

Cy, The Anasazi

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

 

  

As I was writing my original question about painting a tin roof, I said to 
myself, "Self, I bet Cy will have done this before, he's going to be the 
man with the answer."

Thanks, and glad to see you back on the list.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> 
Tel: (412) 268-9081





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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Dan Rossi 
As I was writing my original question about painting a tin roof, I said to 
myself, "Self, I bet Cy will have done this before, he's going to be the 
man with the answer."

Thanks, and glad to see you back on the list.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Cy Selfridge 
Dan,

I would go along with a coat of Rustoleum *PRIMER* followed by a nice coat
of whatever color you want. 

I would also hit it pretty heavy with a stiff wire brush followed by a
thorough rinse and then allow it to completely dry in the sun.

I would apply the primer in the morning as soon as the dew is gone and allow
it to bake in the summer sun for a day then apply the final coat.

Cy, The Anasazi 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:37 AM
To: Blind Handyman List
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

 

  

Anyone have experience painting a tin roof? My porch roof is tin and is 
need of a little TLC. Everything I've read so far basically says:

Scrape or sand,
thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
dry,
prime,
paint two coats.

Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?

My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint 
everyone's porch roof, for a fee. I think his fee is too high, and he did 
some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, didn't 
prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint. I don't think that will hold 
up, but I'm no painter.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> 
Tel: (412) 268-9081





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[BlindHandyMan] Painting a tin roof.

2010-07-07 Thread Dan Rossi 
Anyone have experience painting a tin roof?  My porch roof is tin and is 
need of a little TLC.  Everything I've read so far basically says:

Scrape or sand,
thoroughly wash with soap or TSP,
dry,
prime,
paint two coats.

Any recommendation or disrecommendation for paints to use?

My neighbor just painted his porch roof and is now offering to paint 
everyone's porch roof, for a fee.  I think his fee is too high, and he did 
some cursory scraping of loose rust and peeling paint, didn't wash, didn't 
prime, and used one coat of rustoleum paint.  I don't think that will hold 
up, but I'm no painter.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081