[BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms
Aloha, This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which alarm battery needed to be replaced. Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low every six months? Thanks, Betsy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms
i usually change my batteries for my smoke alarms each year during when i set the clocks ahead for daylight savings time and i will replace the batteries in november when i have to set the clocks back for the winter. I replace them all to be sure i got all of them. _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:00 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms Aloha, This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which alarm battery needed to be replaced. Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low every six months? Thanks, Betsy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms
Does anyone know how long the low battery chirp will last? A few weeks ago the next door neighbor passed away and her son lives in Florida. about 1200 miles away. About a month ago the smoke detector in her home started chirping and there is no one available to change or remove the battery. I wish it would soon quit. - Original Message - From: "WESLEY BURDEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms i usually change my batteries for my smoke alarms each year during when i set the clocks ahead for daylight savings time and i will replace the batteries in november when i have to set the clocks back for the winter. I replace them all to be sure i got all of them. _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:00 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms Aloha, This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which alarm battery needed to be replaced. Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low every six months? Thanks, Betsy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3532 (20081017) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms
Lenny, Sounds like the more appropriate question is, "has anyone ever picked a lock." Have you tried a bit of breaking and entering? Check the easy to get to windows and doors? -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081
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This is a true story. I live in Hawaii and went to visit my grandma in California. My grandma's smoke alarm chirped for about five weeks. She thought she had a cricket in her bathroom and all but scrubbed the paint off the wals with pine sol trying to get rid of that cricket. I happened to visit her and said, "Oh Grandma, good I'm here. I can change the battery in your smoke alarm." Needless to say I was the heroine of the month with my grandma. So, Lenny, there may be no relief in ear for awhile. At 08:31 AM 10/17/2008, you wrote: >Does anyone know how long the low battery chirp will last? A few weeks ago >the next door neighbor passed away and her son lives in Florida. about 1200 >miles away. About a month ago the smoke detector in her home started >chirping and there is no one available to change or remove the battery. I >wish it would soon quit. >- Original Message - >From: "WESLEY BURDEN" ><<mailto:wesley.burden%40verizon.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:06 PM >Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms > >i usually change my batteries for my smoke alarms each year during when i >set the clocks ahead for daylight savings time and i will replace the >batteries in november when i have to set the clocks back for the winter. I >replace them all to be sure i got all of them. > >_ > >From: ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:00 PM >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms > >Aloha, >This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery >backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone >about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. > >Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the >batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This >happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which >alarm battery needed to be replaced. > >Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but >when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started >replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one >in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. > >Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low >every six months? >Thanks, Betsy > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Send any questions regarding list management to: ><mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To listen to the show archives go to link ><http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29>http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 >Or ><ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/>ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > >The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. ><http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday>http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > >Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various >List Members At The Following address: ><http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/>http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > >Visit the archives page at the following address ><http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/>http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > >If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following >address for more information: ><http://www.jaws-users.com/>http://www.jaws-users.com/ >For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list >just send a blank message to: ><mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Groups Links > >__ NOD32 3532 (20081017) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. ><http://www.eset.com>http://www.eset.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms
Maybe you should try calling the Fire Department, Sometimes they will come out and usually will change the battery. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms Does anyone know how long the low battery chirp will last? A few weeks ago the next door neighbor passed away and her son lives in Florida. about 1200 miles away. About a month ago the smoke detector in her home started chirping and there is no one available to change or remove the battery. I wish it would soon quit. - Original Message - From: "WESLEY BURDEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms i usually change my batteries for my smoke alarms each year during when i set the clocks ahead for daylight savings time and i will replace the batteries in november when i have to set the clocks back for the winter. I replace them all to be sure i got all of them. _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:00 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms Aloha, This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which alarm battery needed to be replaced. Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low every six months? Thanks, Betsy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3532 (20081017) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms
Betsy, It is recommended to replace the batteries every six months, The time change in the fall and spring use to be good times, but now the government screwed that up But know, from my experience with them, they should not all beep when the battery gets low in one. I would have the wiring checked out. If they are not connected right, they might not work when they need to. And if they are more then 7 years old they should be replaced. Each detector should have 3 wires, white, black, and red. The white and black are for the power, and the red is the signal wire, that tells them to go off together. It is simple to hook up, just make sure all colors are matched up with each other. Then their should be a test button on them, press the test button on one, and they all should go off. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:00 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms Aloha, This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which alarm battery needed to be replaced. Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low every six months? Thanks, Betsy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms
Betsy I have no experience with the wired in ones, but the battery only ones I've used all get low battery after 6 months or so. It's always at 3:30 in the morning too, makes one wonder about the sadism of the designers. I would be suspicious about the situation your friend has, it does not sound correct that alarms with good batteries beep and the bad one doesn't I'd call the manufacturere and see if they know. Of course they were probably made in china and have high levels of fake protine! tom Fowle
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How about asking the fire department if they can help ssince the alarm is no longer doing its job to warn neighbors of a possible fire? I'd be more worried about the abandoned character of the home as an attractive neusence to any local questionable characters. tom
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms
with this discussion of either hard wired or just battery folks might want to think of a new place they are interested in, if they so choose to move. I say this as a friend of mine has the same problem as Betsy friend but it seems that the one detctor that is hard wired in a fairly new modular 2 story home goes beserk. and wouldn't you know it that detector needs someone with at least a 16 foot step ladder because of the heigth in a very high stairwell ceiling. so when we are looking for a new place to live consider what will I have to do to maintain this place. Pratical is not always easy but it is something to consider. Lee On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 07:18:30AM -0500, Michael Baldwin wrote: > Betsy, > It is recommended to replace the batteries every six months, The time > change in the fall and spring use to be good times, but now the government > screwed that up > But know, from my experience with them, they should not all beep when the > battery gets low in one. > I would have the wiring checked out. If they are not connected right, they > might not work when they need to. And if they are more then 7 years old > they should be replaced. Each detector should have 3 wires, white, black, > and red. The white and black are for the power, and the red is the signal > wire, that tells them to go off together. It is simple to hook up, just > make sure all colors are matched up with each other. Then their should be a > test button on them, press the test button on one, and they all should go > off. > Michael > > > _ > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:00 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms > > > > Aloha, > This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery > backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone > about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. > > Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the > batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This > happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which > alarm battery needed to be replaced. > > Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but > when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started > replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one > in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. > > Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low > every six months? > Thanks, Betsy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > -- Would ye both eat your cake and have your cake? -- John Heywood Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net
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yeah, it took a week to convince a hard of hearing elderly landlady in my first gf's apartment building that I could replace her smoke alarm battery. Just inside the hall doorway. On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Dan Rossi wrote: > Lenny, > > Sounds like the more appropriate question is, "has anyone ever picked a > lock." Have you tried a bit of breaking and entering? Check the easy to > get to windows and doors? > > -- > Blue skies. > Dan Rossi > Carnegie Mellon University. > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: (412) 268-9081 >
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Will someone expand on the statement that smoke alarms should be replaced after seven years. I have heard whisperings about this, but why isn't it stressed more if they won't do their job after a while? Mine are going on 16 years old. Wayne H. - Original Message - From: Michael Baldwin To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:18 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms Betsy, It is recommended to replace the batteries every six months, The time change in the fall and spring use to be good times, but now the government screwed that up But know, from my experience with them, they should not all beep when the battery gets low in one. I would have the wiring checked out. If they are not connected right, they might not work when they need to. And if they are more then 7 years old they should be replaced. Each detector should have 3 wires, white, black, and red. The white and black are for the power, and the red is the signal wire, that tells them to go off together. It is simple to hook up, just make sure all colors are matched up with each other. Then their should be a test button on them, press the test button on one, and they all should go off. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:00 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms Aloha, This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which alarm battery needed to be replaced. Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low every six months? Thanks, Betsy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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They work until they don't in my experience. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Wayne W Hinckley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms > Will someone expand on the statement that smoke alarms should be replaced > after seven years. > > I have heard whisperings about this, but why isn't it stressed more if > they won't do their job after a while? Mine are going on 16 years old. > > Wayne H. > > - Original Message - > From: Michael Baldwin > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:18 AM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms > > > Betsy, > It is recommended to replace the batteries every six months, The time > change in the fall and spring use to be good times, but now the > government > screwed that up > But know, from my experience with them, they should not all beep when the > battery gets low in one. > I would have the wiring checked out. If they are not connected right, > they > might not work when they need to. And if they are more then 7 years old > they should be replaced. Each detector should have 3 wires, white, black, > and red. The white and black are for the power, and the red is the signal > wire, that tells them to go off together. It is simple to hook up, just > make sure all colors are matched up with each other. Then their should be > a > test button on them, press the test button on one, and they all should go > off. > Michael > > > _ > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:00 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about smoke alarms > > Aloha, > This is a question about smoke alarms that are hardwired with battery > backup. The house belongs to my friend and the wiring was redone > about a year and a half ago, to bring it up to code. > > Are these alarms generally wired in such a way that if one of the > batteries gets low, all of the alarms will start beeping? This > happened about six months ago and it took awhile to figure out which > alarm battery needed to be replaced. > > Then, a couple days ago, another alarm started beeping by itself, but > when she replaced that battery, it didn't stop. She finally started > replacing batteries in all the alarms and when she replaced the one > in her hallway, an alarm that was not beeping, the beeping stopped. > > Is it usual for the batteries in these hard-wired alarms to get low > every six months? > Thanks, Betsy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Send any questions regarding list management to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 > Or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following > address for more information: > http://www.jaws-users.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links > > >
