Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
An excellent suggestion! Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Spiro sp...@iamspiro.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump you can even hire a collection agency to do the work for you. On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Alan Paganelli wrote: Yeah they do. We just spent good money here. There is a utility pedestal which sits on a concrete pad outside. The pedestal exists exclusively to hold up the electric meter. The power company insists it's our responsibility to replace it as the old one rusted out and was ready to fall over. My question was how the hell could it rust out in the desert but they didn't see the humor in it. The pole was 1200 plus another grand for a new concrete pad. I am strongly considering sending them a bill every month for rental. They probably won't pay for it but I can hassle them with it and hopefully stop that ripping off the public. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks, Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks, Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
They usually don't pour a pad when they install a new unit. Most units come with a pad as a part of shipping, or the contractor brings one with him. I've had to replace pads before, and didn't want to disconnect the lines to the house. To do this, you have to rig up a temporary support for the unit. I used a couple patio blocks,the 16 by 8 by 2 inch kind, and once they were higher than the current pad, I spanned the pad with a couple 2 by 6's. Just be careful lifting the unit at funny angles. It may be a little easier to put the wood under the unit first and then stack the blocks. You can use a 2 by something as a pry bar to get one end at a time up enough to fit the last block under the 2 by 6. Once you have everything clear of the faulty pad, you have to remove the pad. This may mean you have to do a little landscaping to make a path out for it. Finally you will have to make a new pad. With space being tight like it will be, screw a 3 sided form together and then slide it under the 2 by 6's. Screw it together so you can take it apart. I'd spread some gravel on the ground and then mix as much concrete as you need to make the new pad 3 or 4 inches thick. As the form fills up, you can add the final 2 by 4 across the front to keep the concrete from falling out. Let it dry for a couple days and take the form apart. Finally, lower the unit on to its new home and you should be good for longer than the unit will last. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks, Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
Hey this is a really great idea, but let me ask a couple other questions on the actual digging part here. I think supporting the unit will not be to difficult, but digging under the unit may be more of a challenge. I can probably lift it to some degree without breaking lines and the like. Now I will have to start digging a couple of feet in front of the unit in order to dig under. Now how deep should I dig my hole? If the pad would be 3 to 4 inches, I assume another two for gravel? Since this is on a slope, I will need to ensure the ground is level of course, but to help avoid as much as possible with the ground eroding over time, should I do anything else? I am thinking that the ground slopes sharply right by the heat pump and I think the idea is water etc. runs under the unit and on down the hill. I wonder if building that up and trying to direct the water to run elsewhere would help. I know this is hard to describe, but all thoughts appreciated. On Aug 2, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote: They usually don't pour a pad when they install a new unit. Most units come with a pad as a part of shipping, or the contractor brings one with him. I've had to replace pads before, and didn't want to disconnect the lines to the house. To do this, you have to rig up a temporary support for the unit. I used a couple patio blocks,the 16 by 8 by 2 inch kind, and once they were higher than the current pad, I spanned the pad with a couple 2 by 6's. Just be careful lifting the unit at funny angles. It may be a little easier to put the wood under the unit first and then stack the blocks. You can use a 2 by something as a pry bar to get one end at a time up enough to fit the last block under the 2 by 6. Once you have everything clear of the faulty pad, you have to remove the pad. This may mean you have to do a little landscaping to make a path out for it. Finally you will have to make a new pad. With space being tight like it will be, screw a 3 sided form together and then slide it under the 2 by 6's. Screw it together so you can take it apart. I'd spread some gravel on the ground and then mix as much concrete as you need to make the new pad 3 or 4 inches thick. As the form fills up, you can add the final 2 by 4 across the front to keep the concrete from falling out. Let it dry for a couple days and take the form apart. Finally, lower the unit on to its new home and you should be good for longer than the unit will last. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
Scott, There is always a way. If they can jack up a house and rebuild the foundation, you can jack up your heat pump. *GRIN* I don't envy you the job of digging under it, or trying to stuff concrete under there, but it sounds doable. You may wish to dig a nice trench along the uphil side of the pad and then along the front edge. Lay in a bunch of gravel, a perforated pipe wrapped in a mesh sock, more gravel, and cover. The pipe will run along the uphil side, then turn and go down along the front edge. This will carry the water away without it washing out under the pad. Happy digging. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
Thanks Dan, I don't really look forward to the project since the ground here has been so hard, but soon I will get on this project. I am hoping I can draft my brother for labor since this will take some effort. On Aug 2, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Dan Rossi wrote: Scott, There is always a way. If they can jack up a house and rebuild the foundation, you can jack up your heat pump. *GRIN* I don't envy you the job of digging under it, or trying to stuff concrete under there, but it sounds doable. You may wish to dig a nice trench along the uphil side of the pad and then along the front edge. Lay in a bunch of gravel, a perforated pipe wrapped in a mesh sock, more gravel, and cover. The pipe will run along the uphil side, then turn and go down along the front edge. This will carry the water away without it washing out under the pad. Happy digging. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
I have central air with natural gas heat. The outside unit is on a fairly steep grade. The contractor used cinder block to level the ready made concrete pad. I had thought about filling it up with concrete under the pad, but it has been their 18 years and have had no problems. We do have a very hard red clay soil. If you are going thru the trouble to move the unit, you may conceder making your own pad with concrete. It is heavy work, but you would not be concerned about it for as long as you live their. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
You may not need to be concerned with the water problem since your ground is hard,. The concrete should fill in with the ground and leave no gaps. If the slope is higher than the pad, you definately will not have a problem. I would fill the whole pad with concrete and skip the gravel. The gravel wsaves some of the back breaking work of mixing concrete since it reduces your concrete needs. If the pad is made in such a way that it is always dry you will have mo movement. In North Carolina where I live the soil will absorb gravel, so in a few years it will be gone. But if kept dry, it will not happen. But with our hard soil, we have no problems with pouring concrete directly on the clay. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey this is a really great idea, but let me ask a couple other questions on the actual digging part here. I think supporting the unit will not be to difficult, but digging under the unit may be more of a challenge. I can probably lift it to some degree without breaking lines and the like. Now I will have to start digging a couple of feet in front of the unit in order to dig under. Now how deep should I dig my hole? If the pad would be 3 to 4 inches, I assume another two for gravel? Since this is on a slope, I will need to ensure the ground is level of course, but to help avoid as much as possible with the ground eroding over time, should I do anything else? I am thinking that the ground slopes sharply right by the heat pump and I think the idea is water etc. runs under the unit and on down the hill. I wonder if building that up and trying to direct the water to run elsewhere would help. I know this is hard to describe, but all thoughts appreciated. On Aug 2, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote: They usually don't pour a pad when they install a new unit. Most units come with a pad as a part of shipping, or the contractor brings one with him. I've had to replace pads before, and didn't want to disconnect the lines to the house. To do this, you have to rig up a temporary support for the unit. I used a couple patio blocks,the 16 by 8 by 2 inch kind, and once they were higher than the current pad, I spanned the pad with a couple 2 by 6's. Just be careful lifting the unit at funny angles. It may be a little easier to put the wood under the unit first and then stack the blocks. You can use a 2 by something as a pry bar to get one end at a time up enough to fit the last block under the 2 by 6. Once you have everything clear of the faulty pad, you have to remove the pad. This may mean you have to do a little landscaping to make a path out for it. Finally you will have to make a new pad. With space being tight like it will be, screw a 3 sided form together and then slide it under the 2 by 6's. Screw it together so you can take it apart. I'd spread some gravel on the ground and then mix as much concrete as you need to make the new pad 3 or 4 inches thick. As the form fills up, you can add the final 2 by 4 across the front to keep the concrete from falling out. Let it dry for a couple days and take the form apart. Finally, lower the unit on to its new home and you should be good for longer than the unit will last. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:21 PM Subject
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
Thanks John, that is the direction I'm going to go here. I think what ground has eroded, is probably done for the most part. THe unit does not seem to be listing really all that bad, but enough to cause the housing to rattle and I'm thinking once this is done, the world will be right as ever and I will then enjoy being in the same yard with the evil beast. Thanks, On Aug 2, 2010, at 10:48 AM, John Sherrer wrote: I have central air with natural gas heat. The outside unit is on a fairly steep grade. The contractor used cinder block to level the ready made concrete pad. I had thought about filling it up with concrete under the pad, but it has been their 18 years and have had no problems. We do have a very hard red clay soil. If you are going thru the trouble to move the unit, you may conceder making your own pad with concrete. It is heavy work, but you would not be concerned about it for as long as you live their. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Thanks John, I'll keep this in mind once I get in there and start digging around. The fun part will be balancing the monster while I work on it. But you know, I think it'll work just perfectly with patience. On Aug 2, 2010, at 11:10 AM, John Sherrer wrote: You may not need to be concerned with the water problem since your ground is hard,. The concrete should fill in with the ground and leave no gaps. If the slope is higher than the pad, you definately will not have a problem. I would fill the whole pad with concrete and skip the gravel. The gravel wsaves some of the back breaking work of mixing concrete since it reduces your concrete needs. If the pad is made in such a way that it is always dry you will have mo movement. In North Carolina where I live the soil will absorb gravel, so in a few years it will be gone. But if kept dry, it will not happen. But with our hard soil, we have no problems with pouring concrete directly on the clay. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey this is a really great idea, but let me ask a couple other questions on the actual digging part here. I think supporting the unit will not be to difficult, but digging under the unit may be more of a challenge. I can probably lift it to some degree without breaking lines and the like. Now I will have to start digging a couple of feet in front of the unit in order to dig under. Now how deep should I dig my hole? If the pad would be 3 to 4 inches, I assume another two for gravel? Since this is on a slope, I will need to ensure the ground is level of course, but to help avoid as much as possible with the ground eroding over time, should I do anything else? I am thinking that the ground slopes sharply right by the heat pump and I think the idea is water etc. runs under the unit and on down the hill. I wonder if building that up and trying to direct the water to run elsewhere would help. I know this is hard to describe, but all thoughts appreciated. On Aug 2, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote: They usually don't pour a pad when they install a new unit. Most units come with a pad as a part of shipping, or the contractor brings one with him. I've had to replace pads before, and didn't want to disconnect the lines to the house. To do this, you have to rig up a temporary support for the unit. I used a couple patio blocks,the 16 by 8 by 2 inch kind, and once they were higher than the current pad, I spanned the pad with a couple 2 by 6's. Just be careful lifting the unit at funny angles. It may be a little easier to put the wood under the unit first and then stack the blocks. You can use a 2 by something as a pry bar to get one end at a time up enough to fit the last block under the 2 by 6. Once you have everything clear of the faulty pad, you have to remove the pad. This may mean you have to do a little landscaping to make a path out for it. Finally you will have to make a new pad. With space being tight like it will be, screw a 3 sided form together and then slide it under the 2 by 6's. Screw it together so you can take it apart. I'd spread some gravel on the ground and then mix as much concrete as you need to make the new pad 3 or 4 inches thick. As the form fills up, you can add the final 2 by 4 across the front to keep the concrete from falling out. Let it dry for a couple days and take the form apart. Finally, lower the unit on to its new home and you should be good for longer than the unit will last. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my
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Yeah they do. We just spent good money here. There is a utility pedestal which sits on a concrete pad outside. The pedestal exists exclusively to hold up the electric meter. The power company insists it's our responsibility to replace it as the old one rusted out and was ready to fall over. My question was how the hell could it rust out in the desert but they didn't see the humor in it. The pole was 1200 plus another grand for a new concrete pad. I am strongly considering sending them a bill every month for rental. They probably won't pay for it but I can hassle them with it and hopefully stop that ripping off the public. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks, Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining
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If you want to keep it at the current location and level it, it can be quite simple. There should be some play in moving the unit and at least one direction. Move it so ever gently in one direction. On the side you moved it from, cut galvinized conduit pipe length to go below frost line. Pound at least 2 or three into the ground along that side leaving the top at the level you want the bottom of the pad to be. Now shift the pad over those pipes with a little extra and pound pipe along the other side. Once in place just put something under the middle to hold level. Check under the pad to see what the base is like on the underside. Some have partitions to add strength and other can have a foam concrete mix. Keep in mind what kind of give there is in the copper lines. .bob
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Thanks Bob, I think the challenge would be getting any pipe under there and getting it below the frost line would be interesting. Of course I guess I need to make sure there isn't anything I would want to hit. grin Actually the only line I cannot account for is the waste line. My thought is it probably runs from the back of the house, under the house, and out to the street. The only reason I think this is the water line is in the front of the house, but the sinks and other stuff is in the rear of the house. Ah what fun. On Aug 2, 2010, at 1:55 PM, chiliblindman wrote: If you want to keep it at the current location and level it, it can be quite simple. There should be some play in moving the unit and at least one direction. Move it so ever gently in one direction. On the side you moved it from, cut galvinized conduit pipe length to go below frost line. Pound at least 2 or three into the ground along that side leaving the top at the level you want the bottom of the pad to be. Now shift the pad over those pipes with a little extra and pound pipe along the other side. Once in place just put something under the middle to hold level. Check under the pad to see what the base is like on the underside. Some have partitions to add strength and other can have a foam concrete mix. Keep in mind what kind of give there is in the copper lines. .bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I wouldn't think 2 inches is necessary for something that light. The gravel will let the water run through it without eroding the ground so much under everything. I'd go with an inch of gravel myself. If you are on a slope, then you may want to think about wings on the inside of the form. Put the closed end at the upper part of the slope and then use a piece of half inch plywood on the inside of the form to level everything out. The wings will touch the ground and you can help keep the concrete from running under the edges of the form that way. Depending on the amount of slope, you can use extra gravel on the downhill side. Then just dump the concrete, I like Quikrete mix personally, in on the gravel and let it set. As you probably know, you will most likely need a wing to help close in the open end, to keep the gravel from running away. You know how things go when you have to improvise. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey this is a really great idea, but let me ask a couple other questions on the actual digging part here. I think supporting the unit will not be to difficult, but digging under the unit may be more of a challenge. I can probably lift it to some degree without breaking lines and the like. Now I will have to start digging a couple of feet in front of the unit in order to dig under. Now how deep should I dig my hole? If the pad would be 3 to 4 inches, I assume another two for gravel? Since this is on a slope, I will need to ensure the ground is level of course, but to help avoid as much as possible with the ground eroding over time, should I do anything else? I am thinking that the ground slopes sharply right by the heat pump and I think the idea is water etc. runs under the unit and on down the hill. I wonder if building that up and trying to direct the water to run elsewhere would help. I know this is hard to describe, but all thoughts appreciated. On Aug 2, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote: They usually don't pour a pad when they install a new unit. Most units come with a pad as a part of shipping, or the contractor brings one with him. I've had to replace pads before, and didn't want to disconnect the lines to the house. To do this, you have to rig up a temporary support for the unit. I used a couple patio blocks,the 16 by 8 by 2 inch kind, and once they were higher than the current pad, I spanned the pad with a couple 2 by 6's. Just be careful lifting the unit at funny angles. It may be a little easier to put the wood under the unit first and then stack the blocks. You can use a 2 by something as a pry bar to get one end at a time up enough to fit the last block under the 2 by 6. Once you have everything clear of the faulty pad, you have to remove the pad. This may mean you have to do a little landscaping to make a path out for it. Finally you will have to make a new pad. With space being tight like it will be, screw a 3 sided form together and then slide it under the 2 by 6's. Screw it together so you can take it apart. I'd spread some gravel on the ground and then mix as much concrete as you need to make the new pad 3 or 4 inches thick. As the form fills up, you can add the final 2 by 4 across the front to keep the concrete from falling out. Let it dry for a couple days and take the form apart. Finally, lower the unit on to its new home and you should be good for longer than the unit will last. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell
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Thank you sir, this is valuable info and I will file it for when I begin the project. On Aug 2, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote: I wouldn't think 2 inches is necessary for something that light. The gravel will let the water run through it without eroding the ground so much under everything. I'd go with an inch of gravel myself. If you are on a slope, then you may want to think about wings on the inside of the form. Put the closed end at the upper part of the slope and then use a piece of half inch plywood on the inside of the form to level everything out. The wings will touch the ground and you can help keep the concrete from running under the edges of the form that way. Depending on the amount of slope, you can use extra gravel on the downhill side. Then just dump the concrete, I like Quikrete mix personally, in on the gravel and let it set. As you probably know, you will most likely need a wing to help close in the open end, to keep the gravel from running away. You know how things go when you have to improvise. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey this is a really great idea, but let me ask a couple other questions on the actual digging part here. I think supporting the unit will not be to difficult, but digging under the unit may be more of a challenge. I can probably lift it to some degree without breaking lines and the like. Now I will have to start digging a couple of feet in front of the unit in order to dig under. Now how deep should I dig my hole? If the pad would be 3 to 4 inches, I assume another two for gravel? Since this is on a slope, I will need to ensure the ground is level of course, but to help avoid as much as possible with the ground eroding over time, should I do anything else? I am thinking that the ground slopes sharply right by the heat pump and I think the idea is water etc. runs under the unit and on down the hill. I wonder if building that up and trying to direct the water to run elsewhere would help. I know this is hard to describe, but all thoughts appreciated. On Aug 2, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote: They usually don't pour a pad when they install a new unit. Most units come with a pad as a part of shipping, or the contractor brings one with him. I've had to replace pads before, and didn't want to disconnect the lines to the house. To do this, you have to rig up a temporary support for the unit. I used a couple patio blocks,the 16 by 8 by 2 inch kind, and once they were higher than the current pad, I spanned the pad with a couple 2 by 6's. Just be careful lifting the unit at funny angles. It may be a little easier to put the wood under the unit first and then stack the blocks. You can use a 2 by something as a pry bar to get one end at a time up enough to fit the last block under the 2 by 6. Once you have everything clear of the faulty pad, you have to remove the pad. This may mean you have to do a little landscaping to make a path out for it. Finally you will have to make a new pad. With space being tight like it will be, screw a 3 sided form together and then slide it under the 2 by 6's. Screw it together so you can take it apart. I'd spread some gravel on the ground and then mix as much concrete as you need to make the new pad 3 or 4 inches thick. As the form fills up, you can add the final 2 by 4 across the front to keep the concrete from falling out. Let it dry for a couple days and take the form apart. Finally, lower the unit on to its new home and you should be good for longer than the unit will last. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements
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you can even hire a collection agency to do the work for you. On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Alan Paganelli wrote: Yeah they do. We just spent good money here. There is a utility pedestal which sits on a concrete pad outside. The pedestal exists exclusively to hold up the electric meter. The power company insists it's our responsibility to replace it as the old one rusted out and was ready to fall over. My question was how the hell could it rust out in the desert but they didn't see the humor in it. The pole was 1200 plus another grand for a new concrete pad. I am strongly considering sending them a bill every month for rental. They probably won't pay for it but I can hassle them with it and hopefully stop that ripping off the public. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hey Alan, I agree the job is worth doing right the first time because I sure do not want to come back and do it again. If I leave it where it is, I will have to do something to permanently fix the situation. THe pad is this plastic thing the unit sits on. I guess they do not poor concrete pads any longer. On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks, Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks,
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump
The part about protecting it as much as possible is very true. It depends on the shape of the pad. If it's full of cracks etc, you might be better off just to move it into an area where it is better protected and just get a new pad and have it fully supported. The nice part about that is you probably only need to do it once. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing the right way. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Raddling heat pump Hi folks, Well I am going to finally get around to doing something about my heat pump. THe one suggestion someone gave was to pull the unit off the pad, remove the existing pad, put some pipes in the ground with concrete, and set the pad on the pipes. THis would help keep the unit level. Of course this requires the unit be pumped down and I would have to have a contractor come out and remove and reinstall the unit. I am trying to determine if there is any other way of doing this beyond moving the unit around to the side of the house. THe only issue there is it would be exposed to the sun all year round, which may not matter, but the HVAC contractor that fixed it recently stated in so many words it is better to protect it from the sun if possible. The problem I am dealing with is the yard slopes and the ground is slowly eroding and causing the unit to become off balance. I doubt it would be easy to dig under the pad while the unit is sitting on it and jack it up enough to really get under there and build up the ground. However, perhaps it is possible and any thoughts appreciated. THanks, Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
