[BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-27 Thread jim
hi, i have a shallow well jet pump in my basement.
the last 2 days the relay has been hanging up.
meaning it runs for a long time but if i tap on the relay box it will shut off.
or when you run water the pressure will drop to nothing and the pump does not 
turn on.
again if i tap on it, it fires right up.

my question is can i use a little spray like wd40 on it.
i have some other stuff that says it can be used on battery terminals to 
prevent corrosion.
so i guess its conductive.

the last time i had this problem i just put on a new relay box.
but don't have the bucks at the moment and its hard to take a shower and tap 
the box grin.
thanks
Jim
 in Minnesota.
and no its not frozen yet.


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-27 Thread Tom Fowle
Jim,
I know the anti-wd40 folks will scream it won't last and collects dust etc.
but I've found it works fine for cleaning switches etc.

Contact cleaner would be the more conventional stuff, but the armeture of the
relay may actually be sticking as well as having dirty contacts so WD40
will probably do fine.

I assume you can get into the box and actually spray the relay its self.
Power off whilst doing it of course

Tom Fowle

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 04:31:37PM -0500, jim wrote:
> hi, i have a shallow well jet pump in my basement.
> the last 2 days the relay has been hanging up.
> meaning it runs for a long time but if i tap on the relay box it will shut 
> off.
> or when you run water the pressure will drop to nothing and the pump does not 
> turn on.
> again if i tap on it, it fires right up.
> 
> my question is can i use a little spray like wd40 on it.
> i have some other stuff that says it can be used on battery terminals to 
> prevent corrosion.
> so i guess its conductive.
> 
> the last time i had this problem i just put on a new relay box.
> but don't have the bucks at the moment and its hard to take a shower and tap 
> the box grin.
> thanks
> Jim
>  in Minnesota.
> and no its not frozen yet.
> 
> 
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> 


Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-27 Thread jim
hi tom oh yeah all ready had the power off and the box oppen.
i couldn't get to the contacts as they are down in there or i would have used 
some 400 grit sand paper on them.
right now dust is no big deal grin.
thanks
jim


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-27 Thread Tom Fowle
I like braille paper for bernishing contacts.
tom



Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-27 Thread Bob Kennedy
I would be a bit shy of spraying WD40 in around electrical parts.  That stuff 
will burn.  When I worked in the garage, I knew guys to spray WD40 instead of 
starting fluid and the cars would start.  

I would recommend some sort of contact cleaner.  Make real sure the power is 
off, those I believe are 220 volts.  Take the top off and make sure the arms 
move apart and together.  Then you can try flushing the pivot points with some 
contact cleaner.  Try moving the arms again to see if they are moving easier.  
Work at it a short while to be sure they are pretty loose.  Then wipe 
everything as clean as you can and put the top back on the box.  See if the 
well works better now.  

Remember to feed Rudolph! 
  - Original Message - 
  From: jim 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:31 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay


hi, i have a shallow well jet pump in my basement.
  the last 2 days the relay has been hanging up.
  meaning it runs for a long time but if i tap on the relay box it will shut 
off.
  or when you run water the pressure will drop to nothing and the pump does not 
turn on.
  again if i tap on it, it fires right up.

  my question is can i use a little spray like wd40 on it.
  i have some other stuff that says it can be used on battery terminals to 
prevent corrosion.
  so i guess its conductive.

  the last time i had this problem i just put on a new relay box.
  but don't have the bucks at the moment and its hard to take a shower and tap 
the box grin.
  thanks
  Jim
  in Minnesota.
  and no its not frozen yet.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-28 Thread Tom Fowle
Until a couple years ago WD40 used propane as its propellant.
that has supposedly changed to something non flamable.

However you're correct, I saw guys spray older versions into the air intakes of
 recalcitrant outboards, if they then started, you knew you had a fuel flow
problem.  If not, the problem was probably electrical.

As long a spray onto non  live systems, the propellant would evaporate 
pretty fast.

Tom Fowle

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:13:14PM -0400, Bob Kennedy wrote:
> I would be a bit shy of spraying WD40 in around electrical parts.  That stuff 
> will burn.  When I worked in the garage, I knew guys to spray WD40 instead of 
> starting fluid and the cars would start.  
> 
> I would recommend some sort of contact cleaner.  Make real sure the power is 
> off, those I believe are 220 volts.  Take the top off and make sure the arms 
> move apart and together.  Then you can try flushing the pivot points with 
> some contact cleaner.  Try moving the arms again to see if they are moving 
> easier.  Work at it a short while to be sure they are pretty loose.  Then 
> wipe everything as clean as you can and put the top back on the box.  See if 
> the well works better now.  
> 
> Remember to feed Rudolph! 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: jim 
>   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:31 PM
>   Subject: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay
> 
> 
> hi, i have a shallow well jet pump in my basement.
>   the last 2 days the relay has been hanging up.
>   meaning it runs for a long time but if i tap on the relay box it will shut 
> off.
>   or when you run water the pressure will drop to nothing and the pump does 
> not turn on.
>   again if i tap on it, it fires right up.
> 
>   my question is can i use a little spray like wd40 on it.
>   i have some other stuff that says it can be used on battery terminals to 
> prevent corrosion.
>   so i guess its conductive.
> 
>   the last time i had this problem i just put on a new relay box.
>   but don't have the bucks at the moment and its hard to take a shower and 
> tap the box grin.
>   thanks
>   Jim
>   in Minnesota.
>   and no its not frozen yet.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
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> 


Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-28 Thread jim
hi tom well i gave it a squirt of this stuff i had here and waited a bit then 
tried it and  no fire but it is still very slow comming on after the water runs 
out.
having a friend come over today and see what screw is the low pressure adjust 
and see if tht helps.
i may have a weak or broken spring.
jim


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-28 Thread RJ
Did you drain the line at the bottom of the relay? That solved my problem on my 
well water system.

  - Original Message - 
  From: jim 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 14:07
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay


hi tom well i gave it a squirt of this stuff i had here and waited a bit 
then tried it and no fire but it is still very slow comming on after the water 
runs out.
  having a friend come over today and see what screw is the low pressure adjust 
and see if tht helps.
  i may have a weak or broken spring.
  jim

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-28 Thread jim
no i didn't take it off but i will when my friend gets here it may be cloged.
jim


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-28 Thread Chip Nall
Contact cieaner is also flammable





From: Bob Kennedy 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 7:13:14 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

  
I would be a bit shy of spraying WD40 in around electrical parts. That stuff 
will burn. When I worked in the garage, I knew guys to spray WD40 instead of 
starting fluid and the cars would start. 

I would recommend some sort of contact cleaner. Make real sure the power is 
off, those I believe are 220 volts. Take the top off and make sure the arms 
move apart and together. Then you can try flushing the pivot points with some 
contact cleaner. Try moving the arms again to see if they are moving easier. 
Work at it a short while to be sure they are pretty loose. Then wipe everything 
as clean as you can and put the top back on the box. See if the well works 
better now. 

Remember to feed Rudolph! 
- Original Message - 
From: jim 
To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:31 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

hi, i have a shallow well jet pump in my basement.
the last 2 days the relay has been hanging up.
meaning it runs for a long time but if i tap on the relay box it will shut off.
or when you run water the pressure will drop to nothing and the pump does not 
turn on.
again if i tap on it, it fires right up.

my question is can i use a little spray like wd40 on it.
i have some other stuff that says it can be used on battery terminals to 
prevent corrosion.
so i guess its conductive.

the last time i had this problem i just put on a new relay box.
but don't have the bucks at the moment and its hard to take a shower and tap 
the box grin.
thanks
Jim
in Minnesota.
and no its not frozen yet.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

2009-10-29 Thread Bob Kennedy
It's flammable but it evaporates so fast it isn't a problem.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chip Nall 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay


Contact cieaner is also flammable

  
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 7:13:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay


  I would be a bit shy of spraying WD40 in around electrical parts. That stuff 
will burn. When I worked in the garage, I knew guys to spray WD40 instead of 
starting fluid and the cars would start. 

  I would recommend some sort of contact cleaner. Make real sure the power is 
off, those I believe are 220 volts. Take the top off and make sure the arms 
move apart and together. Then you can try flushing the pivot points with some 
contact cleaner. Try moving the arms again to see if they are moving easier. 
Work at it a short while to be sure they are pretty loose. Then wipe everything 
as clean as you can and put the top back on the box. See if the well works 
better now. 

  Remember to feed Rudolph! 
  - Original Message - 
  From: jim 
  To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:31 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] house water pump relay

  hi, i have a shallow well jet pump in my basement.
  the last 2 days the relay has been hanging up.
  meaning it runs for a long time but if i tap on the relay box it will shut 
off.
  or when you run water the pressure will drop to nothing and the pump does not 
turn on.
  again if i tap on it, it fires right up.

  my question is can i use a little spray like wd40 on it.
  i have some other stuff that says it can be used on battery terminals to 
prevent corrosion.
  so i guess its conductive.

  the last time i had this problem i just put on a new relay box.
  but don't have the bucks at the moment and its hard to take a shower and tap 
the box grin.
  thanks
  Jim
  in Minnesota.
  and no its not frozen yet.

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