[BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
Lenny, Do you have to modify that stool or can you take it back and get one that is more suitable to her needs? Betsy At 02:04 PM 2/14/2008, you wrote: >My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. >I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a >support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to >step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it >lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut >it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt >would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't >think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. >I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep >the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: >1. plumbers epoxy >2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg >and use a pop rivet >3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg >What would be the best recommendation? >Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ >It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >or >ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > >The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > >Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From >Various List Members At The Following address: >http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > >Visit the archives page at the following address >http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > >If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the >following address for more information: >http://www.jaws-users.com/ >For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy >Man list just send a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
This one must be modified. It is the only platform stool with a support handle. It is the type that is used in the medical profession. It has a very large platform for her to stand. Between her age and the fact that she just had her 4th hip replacement she needs something like this. Her left hip was replaced 3 times and a few months ago her right hip. - Original Message - From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool Lenny, Do you have to modify that stool or can you take it back and get one that is more suitable to her needs? Betsy At 02:04 PM 2/14/2008, you wrote: >My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. >I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a >support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to >step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it >lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut >it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt >would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't >think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. >I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep >the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: >1. plumbers epoxy >2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg >and use a pop rivet >3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg >What would be the best recommendation? >Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ >It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >or >ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > >The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > >Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From >Various List Members At The Following address: >http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > >Visit the archives page at the following address >http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > >If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the >following address for more information: >http://www.jaws-users.com/ >For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy >Man list just send a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 stainless bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from the bottom so cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
Lenny, Is there any way you can clamp up the handle in its new position and drill it free-hand? Depending on the alloy that stool is constructed from somebody should be having a really good day to safely and successfully weld that material for you. I know that I for one would want a couple of practice pieces before I tackled Mom's stool. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:25 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 stainless bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from the bottom so cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 157255992) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=157255992&m=33a1a0cfcb80&c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=157255992&m=33a1a0cfcb80&c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=157255992&m=33a1a0cfcb80&c=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
I don't know if I could free hand drill through the two tubes. As for as practice pieces great idea. The cut off pieces would be great for that. - Original Message - From: "Larry Stansifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool Lenny, Is there any way you can clamp up the handle in its new position and drill it free-hand? Depending on the alloy that stool is constructed from somebody should be having a really good day to safely and successfully weld that material for you. I know that I for one would want a couple of practice pieces before I tackled Mom's stool. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:25 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 stainless bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from the bottom so cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 157255992) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=157255992&m=33a1a0
Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
Hi Lenny, I think that any modification you make to that stool will only weaken it. Would you consider adding to it instead? Instead of trying to modify the stool, why not add an extra step to it, about half the height of the other step, making her take two steps instead of the one. If you wanted to, make it a fold-out type of step, so it can fold into the original step to keep it out of the way. I've seen this type of model out there, albeit without the handle and rail, but I don't see why it can't be done. Yes, in fact I can see it now, if you placed a couple of brackets on each side, with hinges, then add the other step in there, it might just work. Victor Gouveia
Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
Victor, Great idea however for her it is not feasible. She has very little room in her kitchen and with the hip replacement she is not allowed to bend to slide out the step. It would become too large if it was made permanently extended.With the one that she has she can user her walker to get next to the handle and step up but the step is too high for her. I have another that is low enough but does not have the needed support handle. - Original Message - From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool Hi Lenny, I think that any modification you make to that stool will only weaken it. Would you consider adding to it instead? Instead of trying to modify the stool, why not add an extra step to it, about half the height of the other step, making her take two steps instead of the one. If you wanted to, make it a fold-out type of step, so it can fold into the original step to keep it out of the way. I've seen this type of model out there, albeit without the handle and rail, but I don't see why it can't be done. Yes, in fact I can see it now, if you placed a couple of brackets on each side, with hinges, then add the other step in there, it might just work. Victor Gouveia To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool
How about binding the bottom of the handle tube to the leg tube after you cut away the bottom bolt with a good stout hose clamp? - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 stainless bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from the bottom so cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5/1278 - Release Date: 2/14/2008 10:28 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I thought about that but thought that the U-bolt would be stronger. At least the stool is now in my home where she can't try to climb up on it. - Original Message - From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool How about binding the bottom of the handle tube to the leg tube after you cut away the bottom bolt with a good stout hose clamp? - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 stainless bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from the bottom so cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5/1278 - Release Date: 2/14/2008 10:28 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
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HI, Here is the time when you should get out the wood working tools and build a new step stool out of wood. This mite be a good place for people to see what kind ideas they can come up with for it... ROB FROM MINNESOTA - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I thought about that but thought that the U-bolt would be stronger. At least the stool is now in my home where she can't try to climb up on it. - Original Message - From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool How about binding the bottom of the handle tube to the leg tube after you cut away the bottom bolt with a good stout hose clamp? - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 stainless bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from the bottom so cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5/1278 - Release Date: 2/14/2008 10:28 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.c
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Hi Lenny, She may not have to bend to get at the stool. If you've ever been in a church pew, people usually just use their feet to pull out those kneelers, but thinking on it though, your mother may not have the strength to pull out the extra step, especially since she had the hip replacement. Oh well, Wyle E. Coyote, back to the drawing board. Smile. Victor Gouveia
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a U bolt, held to a cross piece by an adjustable washer/clamp? On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Larry Stansifer wrote: > Lenny, > > Is there any way you can clamp up the handle in its new position and drill > it free-hand? > Depending on the alloy that stool is constructed from somebody should be > having a really good day to safely and successfully weld that material for > you. > I know that I for one would want a couple of practice pieces before I > tackled Mom's stool. > > -Original Message- > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:25 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > > I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 stainless > bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from the bottom so > cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > > I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is > OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost > her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along > with the handle. > > Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube > that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could > drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on > the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the > style you have in my head. > > > - Original Message - > From: Lenny McHugh > To: Handyman-Blind > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > > My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I > purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support > handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a > little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. > Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle > > is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is > constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new > holes. > I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the > U-bolts from sliding I thought about: > 1. plumbers epoxy > 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use > a pop rivet > 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg > What would be the best recommendation? > Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ > It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following > address for more information: > http://www.jaws-users.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list > > just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following > address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list > of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy
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I wonder if a hose clamp, or adjustable clamp wouldn't make a very good dril guide. Tighten it up on that pipe. and take a tiny drill bit to that pipe. Those clamps have notches and even if you ust one out, you're already in a trough and you can line up with the far side when you are through, then that first pipe will line you up for the second pipe. Can this thing be placed on it's side securely? if not, um, never mind. On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Rob Monitor wrote: > HI, Here is the time when you should get out the wood working tools and build > a new step stool out of wood. This mite be a good place for people to see > what kind ideas they can come up with for it... > ROB FROM MINNESOTA > - Original Message - > From: Lenny McHugh > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:32 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > > I thought about that but thought that the U-bolt would be stronger. At least > the stool is now in my home where she can't try to climb up on it. > - Original Message - > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:36 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > How about binding the bottom of the handle tube to the leg tube after you > cut away the bottom bolt with a good stout hose clamp? > - Original Message - > From: Lenny McHugh > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:24 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 stainless > bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from the bottom so > cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. > - Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is > OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost > her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along > with the handle. > > Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube > that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could > drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on > the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the > style you have in my head. > > - Original Message - > From: Lenny McHugh > To: Handyman-Blind > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I > purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support > handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a > little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. > Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the > handle > is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is > constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new > holes. > I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the > U-bolts from sliding I thought about: > 1. plumbers epoxy > 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use > a pop rivet > 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg > What would be the best recommendation? > Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ > It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following > address for more information: > http://www.jaws-users.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man &
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how about put the whole thing on a platform, if it is likely to stay in place. Then you can make a first step under the current first step, and it could be raised the 3 inches necessary. On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Lenny McHugh wrote: > My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I > purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support > handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a > little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. > Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle > is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is > constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. > I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the > U-bolts from sliding I thought about: > 1. plumbers epoxy > 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a > pop rivet > 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg > What would be the best recommendation? > Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ > It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
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if your mom is 87 years old I would not be playing around with what she had to trust her life with. I would take it back and get something different or buy something different, or start from scratch and build her a step stool that would be safe if you have that capability. Just my thoughts. Peawee([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:04 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I wonder if a hose clamp, or adjustable clamp wouldn't make a very good dril guide. Tighten it up on that pipe. and take a tiny drill bit to that pipe. Those clamps have notches and even if you ust one out, you're already in a trough and you can line up with the far side when you are through, then that first pipe will line you up for the second pipe. Can this thing be placed on it's side securely? if not, um, never mind. On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Rob Monitor wrote: > HI, Here is the time when you should get out the wood working tools and build a new step stool out of wood. This mite be a good place for people to see what kind ideas they can come up with for it... > ROB FROM MINNESOTA > - Original Message - > From: Lenny McHugh > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:32 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > > I thought about that but thought that the U-bolt would be stronger. At > least the stool is now in my home where she can't try to climb up on it. > - Original Message - > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:dleavens%40puc.net> > > To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:36 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > How about binding the bottom of the handle tube to the leg tube after > you cut away the bottom bolt with a good stout hose clamp? > - Original Message - > From: Lenny McHugh > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:24 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > I am shorting both. the handle parallels the leg and has two 1/4 > stainless bolts holding the handle. The bottom bolt is 2 inches from > the bottom so cutting the leg and handle the bottom bolt is lost. > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:bobken54%40bellsouth.net> > > To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop > rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety > and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she > would fall off along with the handle. > > Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a > tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off > you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through > and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having > trouble picturing the style you have in my head. > > - Original Message - > From: Lenny McHugh > To: Handyman-Blind > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool > > My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I > purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a > support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step > on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. > Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the > handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way > that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press > to make new holes. > I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the > U-bolts from sliding I thought about: > 1. plumbers epoxy > 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and > use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg > What would be the best recommendation? > Lenny, Please visit my home page > http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ > <http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/> > It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of
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Lenny, could you replace the botom bolt with a stainless hose clamp or two wrapped around both handle and leg: then a screw through the hose clamp into the leg to keep it from slipping/ Then wrap the entire thing with fiber glass tape to keep the end of the hose clamp from protruding and for extra strength. Maybe a bit of a kludge for someone's life? Tom
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Tom, thanks, well the stainless strap will not slide. It is right above a slight bend in one of the tubing and I tightened it with a socket and ratchet. The bolt is the original stainless 1/4". - Original Message - From: "Tom Fowle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool Lenny, could you replace the botom bolt with a stainless hose clamp or two wrapped around both handle and leg: then a screw through the hose clamp into the leg to keep it from slipping/ Then wrap the entire thing with fiber glass tape to keep the end of the hose clamp from protruding and for extra strength. Maybe a bit of a kludge for someone's life? Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
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Bob, I thought that a 1x2.5 U-bolt would be strong enough to hold the handle to the leg. I was just looking for a way to prevent the U-bolt from possibly slipping. The stool has bent steel tubing for the legs and the handle is also bent steel tubing bolted to the legs. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
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So are you looking to shorten the leg to make it easier to step on for your mom? If that is the plan, you could take the handle off completely and use the hole through the handle as a guide so a hand held drill would stay straight. If I'm understanding the design right. I haven't looked at many stools in the doctor's office other than the neat tools on the table... Does it have legs you could take a couple inches off the bottom and replace the feet? Or maybe you could put s midway step on the front made of wood and screwed to the stool to keep it steady. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: more info:Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool Bob, I thought that a 1x2.5 U-bolt would be strong enough to hold the handle to the leg. I was just looking for a way to prevent the U-bolt from possibly slipping. The stool has bent steel tubing for the legs and the handle is also bent steel tubing bolted to the legs. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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both the handle and legs must be shortened. The handle goes down to about one inch from the floor and I need to take about 3 inches off the legs. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Re: more info:Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool So are you looking to shorten the leg to make it easier to step on for your mom? If that is the plan, you could take the handle off completely and use the hole through the handle as a guide so a hand held drill would stay straight. If I'm understanding the design right. I haven't looked at many stools in the doctor's office other than the neat tools on the table... Does it have legs you could take a couple inches off the bottom and replace the feet? Or maybe you could put s midway step on the front made of wood and screwed to the stool to keep it steady. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: more info:Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool Bob, I thought that a 1x2.5 U-bolt would be strong enough to hold the handle to the leg. I was just looking for a way to prevent the U-bolt from possibly slipping. The stool has bent steel tubing for the legs and the handle is also bent steel tubing bolted to the legs. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more
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If both need to be shortened I would think about making a drill guide from wood. Using your drill press, drill a hole through a piece of wood with the hole having the same diameter as the bolt already used. Cut the length of wood so that it lines up with a reference point you can repeat. Like the top of the platform after shortening or the end of the handle tube after you decide how much to remove. Using a thicker piece like 2 by 2 will keep the drill bit straight while drilling with a hand held drill. If you aren't sure about the length to make the guide, you can drill a smaller hole to use as a pilot hole to ease through the metal for the first hole. Then you can use a combination square to set the reference length. That way the square can be set at one distance and locked so you don't have to keep measuring. The flange on the square can be placed at the end of the handle, the guide can be laid over the handle tube so the drill bit just touches the end of the rule from the square. Then you can drill your first hole. Just repeat on all other pilot holes and then you can free hand the remaining sizes of holes until the bolt fits again. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:33 PM Subject: Re: more info:Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool both the handle and legs must be shortened. The handle goes down to about one inch from the floor and I need to take about 3 inches off the legs. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Re: more info:Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool So are you looking to shorten the leg to make it easier to step on for your mom? If that is the plan, you could take the handle off completely and use the hole through the handle as a guide so a hand held drill would stay straight. If I'm understanding the design right. I haven't looked at many stools in the doctor's office other than the neat tools on the table... Does it have legs you could take a couple inches off the bottom and replace the feet? Or maybe you could put s midway step on the front made of wood and screwed to the stool to keep it steady. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: more info:Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool Bob, I thought that a 1x2.5 U-bolt would be strong enough to hold the handle to the leg. I was just looking for a way to prevent the U-bolt from possibly slipping. The stool has bent steel tubing for the legs and the handle is also bent steel tubing bolted to the legs. - Original Message - From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool I use epoxy a lot but I'd sure feel safer if it was welded. A pop rivet is OK in most cases but we're talking about your mom's safety and if she lost her balance she could bend a rivet to the point she would fall off along with the handle. Are you shortening the handle or the whole stool? If the handle is a tube that has been bent around in a U shape and you can take it off you could drill through the side of the tube and run a bolt through and put a nut on the underneath part of the platform. I'm just having trouble picturing the style you have in my head. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] modifying a step stool My mother, age 87, needed a step stool to reach her kitchen cabinet. I purchased one like in a doctor's office that is a platform with a support handle on the end. This stool is a little too high for to step on. It is a little over 9 inches high. She would like it lowered to about 6.5 inches. Looking at it I really can't just cut it off because the way that the handle is affixed. The bottom bolt would end up being removed. The way that it is constructed I don't think I can get it under my drill press to make new holes. I think that I could use some u-bolts to hold it together. To keep the U-bolts from sliding I thought about: 1. plumbers epoxy 2. drill a hole in the flat part of the U-bolt then drill the leg and use a pop rivet 3. have a friend weld the handle to the stool's leg What would be the best recommendation? Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbrad
