Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer
If it's that old, it's time to replace it with a newer power saving unit. And I would suggest an upright deep freeze over a chest type. The upright model has shelves and it makes it easier to sort out foods. If you want to save money, look for a manual defrost model. You'll have to defrost it twice a year or maybe 3 times a year if you live in a high humidity area. We've had one for years and the money you save by buying in bulk helps pay for the thing.If the power goes off, as long as you don't open the door on the deep freeze, it can hold out for several days. I only paid 250 bucks for mine about 10 years ago. The shelves are fixed in the door and the shelves in the box are not adjustable but what do you expect in a bear bones unit. We were after a deep freeze that was cheap and wasn't going to brake the bank or run up the power bill. In the run, it beat having a second refrigerator. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer >I was hoping to save a little wherever I could. Between my power tools ac > units etc my electric bill is pretty high. Karen stores a lot of things > that > would not fit in the main unit. I already have several heavy duty timers. > I > use them for Christmas lights so sitting in the basement for about 11 > months. I think that this thing eats between 8 and 10 dollars a month. I > plan to let it sit for a few weeks before firing it up. It is 11 years old > and I would assume that the insulation is wet causing it to run an > excessive > amount of time. When I purchased it the estimated cost was about 40 > dollars > a year and that was long before the rate increases. > > -- > From: "Dan Rossi" > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:06 PM > To: "bhm" > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer > >> Lenny, >> >> So, if you are considering just saving some money, how much does a timer >> cost VS how much will you save in electricity? I mean, a fridge can't >> cost more than 6 or 8 bucks a month to run, and you would save less than >> a >> third of that. OK, so maybe you would save 20 or 30 bucks a year which >> would probably recover the cost of the timer in a year or so. >> >> I assume you aren't doing this to save energy, because having a second >> refrigerator is not really an energy saver to begin with. >> >> Hmm, can you disconnect the frost free system? Don't know if that is >> possible or not, but might save as well. >> >> What about selling it, and purchasing a newer, more efficient, smaller >> fridge? Which would probably consume less energy than the larger older >> fridge even with the timer scheme. >> >> -- >> Blue skies. >> Dan Rossi >> Carnegie Mellon University. >> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu >> Tel: (412) 268-9081 >> >> >> >> >> Send any questions regarding list management to: >> blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com >> To listen to the show archives go to link >> http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 >> Or >> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >> >> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >> >> Visit the archives page at the following address >> http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ >> >> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man >> list just send a blank message to: >> blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 > Or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links > > > >
RE: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer
Lenny, I feel that the refrigerator will consume less than half that amount if it is only opened once or so per day. Man, when you open that refrigerator fairly often in a hot kitchen the cool inside just gets wiped completely out also causing tremendous moisture as well. It is just like our house with the grandchildren runnin in and out all day. In the summer the heat just seems to run in as fast as it can and in the winter the cold fills the room faster than you can say "Jack Robinson". (lol) Unfortunately we are running two refrigerators in the kitchen and one of them is 7 years old. Cy From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:41 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer I was hoping to save a little wherever I could. Between my power tools ac units etc my electric bill is pretty high. Karen stores a lot of things that would not fit in the main unit. I already have several heavy duty timers. I use them for Christmas lights so sitting in the basement for about 11 months. I think that this thing eats between 8 and 10 dollars a month. I plan to let it sit for a few weeks before firing it up. It is 11 years old and I would assume that the insulation is wet causing it to run an excessive amount of time. When I purchased it the estimated cost was about 40 dollars a year and that was long before the rate increases. -- From: "Dan Rossi" mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:06 PM To: "bhm" mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer > Lenny, > > So, if you are considering just saving some money, how much does a timer > cost VS how much will you save in electricity? I mean, a fridge can't > cost more than 6 or 8 bucks a month to run, and you would save less than a > third of that. OK, so maybe you would save 20 or 30 bucks a year which > would probably recover the cost of the timer in a year or so. > > I assume you aren't doing this to save energy, because having a second > refrigerator is not really an energy saver to begin with. > > Hmm, can you disconnect the frost free system? Don't know if that is > possible or not, but might save as well. > > What about selling it, and purchasing a newer, more efficient, smaller > fridge? Which would probably consume less energy than the larger older > fridge even with the timer scheme. > > -- > Blue skies. > Dan Rossi > Carnegie Mellon University. > E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> > Tel: (412) 268-9081 > > > > > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com> > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster <http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_ page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29> &PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 > Or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> ! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer
I was hoping to save a little wherever I could. Between my power tools ac units etc my electric bill is pretty high. Karen stores a lot of things that would not fit in the main unit. I already have several heavy duty timers. I use them for Christmas lights so sitting in the basement for about 11 months. I think that this thing eats between 8 and 10 dollars a month. I plan to let it sit for a few weeks before firing it up. It is 11 years old and I would assume that the insulation is wet causing it to run an excessive amount of time. When I purchased it the estimated cost was about 40 dollars a year and that was long before the rate increases. -- From: "Dan Rossi" Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:06 PM To: "bhm" Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer > Lenny, > > So, if you are considering just saving some money, how much does a timer > cost VS how much will you save in electricity? I mean, a fridge can't > cost more than 6 or 8 bucks a month to run, and you would save less than a > third of that. OK, so maybe you would save 20 or 30 bucks a year which > would probably recover the cost of the timer in a year or so. > > I assume you aren't doing this to save energy, because having a second > refrigerator is not really an energy saver to begin with. > > Hmm, can you disconnect the frost free system? Don't know if that is > possible or not, but might save as well. > > What about selling it, and purchasing a newer, more efficient, smaller > fridge? Which would probably consume less energy than the larger older > fridge even with the timer scheme. > > -- > Blue skies. > Dan Rossi > Carnegie Mellon University. > E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu > Tel: (412) 268-9081 > > > > > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 > Or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links > > >
RE: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer
Dan, I tend to agree with you. Turning off the frig and then turning it back on to cool down the contents just can't save that much money because you will have to overcome the heat which the contents have gained. A frig which is rarely opened will usually hold it's temp pretty well and run very little. Cy From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:07 PM To: bhm Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer Lenny, So, if you are considering just saving some money, how much does a timer cost VS how much will you save in electricity? I mean, a fridge can't cost more than 6 or 8 bucks a month to run, and you would save less than a third of that. OK, so maybe you would save 20 or 30 bucks a year which would probably recover the cost of the timer in a year or so. I assume you aren't doing this to save energy, because having a second refrigerator is not really an energy saver to begin with. Hmm, can you disconnect the frost free system? Don't know if that is possible or not, but might save as well. What about selling it, and purchasing a newer, more efficient, smaller fridge? Which would probably consume less energy than the larger older fridge even with the timer scheme. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer
Lenny, So, if you are considering just saving some money, how much does a timer cost VS how much will you save in electricity? I mean, a fridge can't cost more than 6 or 8 bucks a month to run, and you would save less than a third of that. OK, so maybe you would save 20 or 30 bucks a year which would probably recover the cost of the timer in a year or so. I assume you aren't doing this to save energy, because having a second refrigerator is not really an energy saver to begin with. Hmm, can you disconnect the frost free system? Don't know if that is possible or not, but might save as well. What about selling it, and purchasing a newer, more efficient, smaller fridge? Which would probably consume less energy than the larger older fridge even with the timer scheme. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
[BlindHandyMan] refrigerator on timer
Next week when the new unit is delivered the old one will be relocated to the basement. Since this is a backup and holds cold drinks I thought about using a timer to help cut the electric costs. I thought about cutting the power from 10 at night to about 7 in the morning. Normally it is opened once or twice a day for a coke or my grandson's fruit drink. The freezer is not really used although I may hook up the ice maker for holiday or picnic use. Is there any harm in cutting the power on a frost free unit? I know it goes into a defrost cycle every 8 hours. --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]