Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
Many folks tried add on gauge pointer type devices, most optical. you looked for a change in reflected light from a presumably shiny pointer. again results are inconsistant. Getting the mechanical mounting system built to the gauge is the hard part. The electronics could be pretty simple with just an infrared LED and phototransistor feeding something not much more sophisticated than a light probe. You can try this is you have an Active' light probe by moving it over the gauge's surface and see if you get a sharp change in pitch near the pointer. Often reflections from the gauge's surface mess you up. Tom
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
Any time you try such mechanical modification of gauges, consider they may be sacrificed, often the pointers are much too sensative and delicate for blind haptors, or haptors of any sort of course. Anything that measures pressure or fluids/gasses etc. you may well break the seals and cause leaks and gauge distruction. It can work, but be aware of the risks. Tom
RE: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
Ron, Been their, done that Depending on your dial indicator and the resolution you need to achieve you may find yourself needing to extend the pointer, increase the diameter of the face and then add the tactile marks to reflect the indicated reading. I had an old school tool and die maker friend do mine. It lives in a custom fitted foam lined metal box and only comes out for race motors. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:27 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Well I heard about some success in reading dial analog gages by removing the glass or plastic lens and having a sighted person put tactile marks where you needed them.. I havenent tried it on my dial indicator, but am planning to do so. Ron - Original Message - From: Rob Monitor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage HI, I was wondering if there was some kind of gage that us blind guys could use to read a propane gas tank??? THANKS ROB FROM MINNESOTA P.S. I'M TALKING A BIG 500 GALLON TYPE TANK- Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Tom, I didn't forget about you. He just wants to make a suggestion to possibly look into it. He is afraid of the cost factor. They are just trying to break into the market and the unit is I think $105. If he calls me back I will have him contact you. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage If the engineer wants practical suggestions about building in speech, I'd be happey to help, please don't hesitate to provide him with my contact info, this is what I am supposed to do for a living. Tom Fowle Embedded Systems Developer/ Rehab engineer Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center The Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute 2318 Fillmore St. San Francisco, CA 94115 415-345-2123 (Voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 155913838) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=155913838m=ab626baa1984c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=155913838m=ab626baa1984c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=155913838m=ab626baa1984c=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
There was a device that placed a pointer over the surface of the glass and an electronic circuit not unlike a metal detector would indicate when the outside pointer was aligned with the pointer behind the glass. I don't remember who developed it. It was either Tim Cranmer or Bob Gunderson. I don't know if they are still available. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ron Yearns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Well I heard about some success in reading dial analog gages by removing the glass or plastic lens and having a sighted person put tactile marks where you needed them.. I havenent tried it on my dial indicator, but am planning to do so. Ron - Original Message - From: Rob Monitor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage HI, I was wondering if there was some kind of gage that us blind guys could use to read a propane gas tank??? THANKS ROB FROM MINNESOTA P.S. I'M TALKING A BIG 500 GALLON TYPE TANK- Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Tom, I didn't forget about you. He just wants to make a suggestion to possibly look into it. He is afraid of the cost factor. They are just trying to break into the market and the unit is I think $105. If he calls me back I will have him contact you. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage If the engineer wants practical suggestions about building in speech, I'd be happey to help, please don't hesitate to provide him with my contact info, this is what I am supposed to do for a living. Tom Fowle Embedded Systems Developer/ Rehab engineer Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center The Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute 2318 Fillmore St. San Francisco, CA 94115 415-345-2123 (Voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1267 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 8:12 PM
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
is oil conductive? I'm thinking two long wires about 1/2 inch different in length. expose a 1/8 of the wire out of the insulation. Feed them down and when they touch... You could use something like a liquid level indicator with those wires alligator clipped to the leads to make a beeping. But is oil conductive? On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Bill and Marie Johnson wrote: Hi list. I am new here, well actually I have been here but it has been a while. I am familiar with this great list though. My wife Marie and I live in Osseo Wisconsin. we have an oil furnace. In order to see how much oil I have left in the barrel I unscrew that outer rim plastic ring around the oil gage cap and remove the ring. Then I touch the rod, that sticks up from where the cover was. Here is the problem. Our float is stuck down in the oil so the tank shows nearly empty, even after we fill it full. Is there a gage made for blind home owners that is either tactile, or readable in some way? Better still, we have a talking thermostat. I couldn't be so lucky as to find a talking gage, could I?Bill To find out about our lists please go to http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html If you wish a copy of lists please Email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
Quite interesting, I just spoke to an engineer at the company to see if this thing could be made to talk. He will talk to the other people to see how difficult it would be. Now he gave me a quick way for the blind community to be able to check the level. All you would need is to get another clear cap that goes over the fuel gauge. Have someone cut part of it down and make notches where the 3/4 1/2 and 1/4 levels. Then to check unscrew the cap that is on and replace with the modified cap then you can feel the plunger and the marks of the fuel level. then replace the regular cap. He told me that if he had to do that it would be a cheap and easy solution. Ideally the fuel sensor upstairs would work best. - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:49 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Hi Bill WIRELESS FUEL LEVEL MONITOR * Monitor oil level from your kitchen! * No more trips outside or into the basement * Installs in both basement and outside above ground tanks * Takes 10 minutes to install - no wiring needed * Maintenance free - two year warranty Found Here http://www.oil-equip-mfg.com/docs/productsrocket.html From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill and Marie Johnson Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:06 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Hi list. I am new here, well actually I have been here but it has been a while. I am familiar with this great list though. My wife Marie and I live in Osseo Wisconsin. we have an oil furnace. In order to see how much oil I have left in the barrel I unscrew that outer rim plastic ring around the oil gage cap and remove the ring. Then I touch the rod, that sticks up from where the cover was. Here is the problem. Our float is stuck down in the oil so the tank shows nearly empty, even after we fill it full. Is there a gage made for blind home owners that is either tactile, or readable in some way? Better still, we have a talking thermostat. I couldn't be so lucky as to find a talking gage, could I? Bill To find out about our lists please go to http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html If you wish a copy of lists please Email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:eyecandy%40centurytel.net or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:wsvh7072%40yahoo.com ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
If the engineer wants practical suggestions about building in speech, I'd be happey to help, please don't hesitate to provide him with my contact info, this is what I am supposed to do for a living. Tom Fowle Embedded Systems Developer/ Rehab engineer Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center The Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute 2318 Fillmore St. San Francisco, CA 94115 415-345-2123 (Voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tom, the unit that they have could not be converted to speech. It shows lines and will beep when the tank gets low. They are talking about a unit that will estimate gallons. That one might be adaptable. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage If the engineer wants practical suggestions about building in speech, I'd be happey to help, please don't hesitate to provide him with my contact info, this is what I am supposed to do for a living. Tom Fowle Embedded Systems Developer/ Rehab engineer Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center The Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute 2318 Fillmore St. San Francisco, CA 94115 415-345-2123 (Voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
Tom, I didn't forget about you. He just wants to make a suggestion to possibly look into it. He is afraid of the cost factor. They are just trying to break into the market and the unit is I think $105. If he calls me back I will have him contact you. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage If the engineer wants practical suggestions about building in speech, I'd be happey to help, please don't hesitate to provide him with my contact info, this is what I am supposed to do for a living. Tom Fowle Embedded Systems Developer/ Rehab engineer Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center The Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute 2318 Fillmore St. San Francisco, CA 94115 415-345-2123 (Voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
HI, I was wondering if there was some kind of gage that us blind guys could use to read a propane gas tank??? THANKS ROB FROM MINNESOTA P.S. I'M TALKING A BIG 500 GALLON TYPE TANK- Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Tom, I didn't forget about you. He just wants to make a suggestion to possibly look into it. He is afraid of the cost factor. They are just trying to break into the market and the unit is I think $105. If he calls me back I will have him contact you. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage If the engineer wants practical suggestions about building in speech, I'd be happey to help, please don't hesitate to provide him with my contact info, this is what I am supposed to do for a living. Tom Fowle Embedded Systems Developer/ Rehab engineer Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center The Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute 2318 Fillmore St. San Francisco, CA 94115 415-345-2123 (Voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
Spiro asked. Is oil conductive? No. That's why they can use oil to fill transformers and capacitors. Granted, that's a different kind of oil, but in general the hydrocarbons that make up oil, kerosene and gasoline are not conductors of electricity. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage is oil conductive? I'm thinking two long wires about 1/2 inch different in length. expose a 1/8 of the wire out of the insulation. Feed them down and when they touch... You could use something like a liquid level indicator with those wires alligator clipped to the leads to make a beeping. But is oil conductive? On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Bill and Marie Johnson wrote: Hi list. I am new here, well actually I have been here but it has been a while. I am familiar with this great list though. My wife Marie and I live in Osseo Wisconsin. we have an oil furnace. In order to see how much oil I have left in the barrel I unscrew that outer rim plastic ring around the oil gage cap and remove the ring. Then I touch the rod, that sticks up from where the cover was. Here is the problem. Our float is stuck down in the oil so the tank shows nearly empty, even after we fill it full. Is there a gage made for blind home owners that is either tactile, or readable in some way? Better still, we have a talking thermostat. I couldn't be so lucky as to find a talking gage, could I?Bill To find out about our lists please go to http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html If you wish a copy of lists please Email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: 2/7/2008 11:17 AM
RE: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
Hi Bill WIRELESS FUEL LEVEL MONITOR * Monitor oil level from your kitchen! * No more trips outside or into the basement * Installs in both basement and outside above ground tanks * Takes 10 minutes to install - no wiring needed * Maintenance free - two year warranty Found Here http://www.oil-equip-mfg.com/docs/productsrocket.html From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill and Marie Johnson Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:06 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Hi list. I am new here, well actually I have been here but it has been a while. I am familiar with this great list though. My wife Marie and I live in Osseo Wisconsin. we have an oil furnace. In order to see how much oil I have left in the barrel I unscrew that outer rim plastic ring around the oil gage cap and remove the ring. Then I touch the rod, that sticks up from where the cover was. Here is the problem. Our float is stuck down in the oil so the tank shows nearly empty, even after we fill it full. Is there a gage made for blind home owners that is either tactile, or readable in some way? Better still, we have a talking thermostat. I couldn't be so lucky as to find a talking gage, could I? Bill To find out about our lists please go to http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html If you wish a copy of lists please Email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:eyecandy%40centurytel.net or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:wsvh7072%40yahoo.com ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage
Thank you very much. I think I will check that out. Also, blindmicemart has some of these other tools mentioned as I have some of them. I will check on the URL shortly. Bill To find out about our lists please go to http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html If you wish a copy of lists please Email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Hi Bill WIRELESS FUEL LEVEL MONITOR * Monitor oil level from your kitchen! * No more trips outside or into the basement * Installs in both basement and outside above ground tanks * Takes 10 minutes to install - no wiring needed * Maintenance free - two year warranty Found Here http://www.oil-equip-mfg.com/docs/productsrocket.html From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill and Marie Johnson Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:06 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New and questions about an oil gage Hi list. I am new here, well actually I have been here but it has been a while. I am familiar with this great list though. My wife Marie and I live in Osseo Wisconsin. we have an oil furnace. In order to see how much oil I have left in the barrel I unscrew that outer rim plastic ring around the oil gage cap and remove the ring. Then I touch the rod, that sticks up from where the cover was. Here is the problem. Our float is stuck down in the oil so the tank shows nearly empty, even after we fill it full. Is there a gage made for blind home owners that is either tactile, or readable in some way? Better still, we have a talking thermostat. I couldn't be so lucky as to find a talking gage, could I? Bill To find out about our lists please go to http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html http://www.geocities.com/wsvh7072/lists.html If you wish a copy of lists please Email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:eyecandy%40centurytel.net or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:wsvh7072%40yahoo.com ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
