Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
I doubt a filler will hold screws, If you have the space, how about drilling out the screw holes to maybe 3/8ths inch and gluing dowels in them to take the new screw holes then filling in the rest with plastic wood before sand and finishing. Drill for the dowels as deep as you dare to give yiu plenty of gripping surface. Even if you replaced the wood with a new chunk and could ,match the color, you'd want to put in some pins between tghe new and old wood to gain strength Tom
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
Hi, any good name plastic wood filler will work you can get from Lowe's or Home Depot. You can sand and paint or varnish most all of these plastid wood fillers. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:40 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler I think I may have asked the wrong question. This article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores. I need to fill in a place whare the wood is broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place. At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Hi Good article on fillers found here. http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Hi list, I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall board, part of the piano which closes and covers the keys that has broken away. This is at a screw whole. I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this filled in place will be visible when the fall board is raised. So my question, or two questions are; 1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill a pilot whole and put a screw in? 2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers? I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond quickly I would appreciate it. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yes you can drill and put screws in plastic wood. But in case of the chair no it will not stand that kind of pressure. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Robinson Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:40 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler In my admittedly limited experience you can't drill and put screws into filler. I once repaired the leg of a swivel chair. I mean the part where the caster shaft goes in. The wood had broken away around the hole. The previous owner had tried to glue the original pieces back and that lasted about 5 seconds. I bought it off him for 5 dollars. I completely cut away the damaged wood making straight smooth cuts. Then I got a block of the same kind of wood and glued it in place. Then I planed and sanded it down to be smooth and drilled a new hole for the caster shaft. I sold it several years ago for 25 dollars and as far as I know it is still holding together. I didn't take the final step of finishing the added piece to match but it could be done and with care it should be invisible. Your situation is very different than mine because your break is in a highly visible area and on something that must be made to look as good as new. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Kevin Doucet contac...@kevindoucet.com mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler I think I may have asked the wrong question. This article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores. I need to fill in a place whare the wood is broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place. At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Hi Good article on fillers found here. http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Hi list, I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall board, part of the piano which closes and covers the keys that has broken away. This is at a screw whole. I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this filled in place will be visible when the fall board is raised. So my question, or two questions are; 1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill a pilot whole and put a screw in? 2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers? I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond quickly I would appreciate it. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From
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Just to let the list know what I found online. We don't have this neer to home but this sounds like it would fill the bill. EPOXYGATOR® WOOD STICK EPOXY PUTTY is a wood workers go to repair product. Tenacious bonding to wood. Can be drilled, sawed, sanded, drilled and tapped. Repair fine furniture. 4 shades. Sizes available: 2oz (Length 3.5 Inches) 4oz. (Length 7 1/8 Inches) Technical Specs: EpoxyGator® Alumina Stick Two component, ready to use simply by cutting amount desired, kneading by hand to a uniform consistency and apply. Bonds tenaciously to wood. Wood Stick epoxy putty has the same characterizes of wood and cab be used on the interior and exterior. COLORS AVAILABLE: 4 COLORS AVAILABLE Area must be clean and free of oils and dirt. For best results use a wire brush to scratch the surface to ensure proper bonding. If any oil is present, please wash/wipe it away using a solvent or cleaner. Cut the desired amount using a knife. Mix by kneading to a uniform consistency. All our epoxy putty sticks are two component and are conveniently colored. While mixing make sure both colors have blended well. Cooler weather will make the epoxy hard to mix. Simply heat up the epoxy stick until room temperature and use. After mixing, immediately apply within 2 minutes to the area. During the curing phase, material can be smoothed using slight damp fingers. Wash hands with soap and water after use. Pot Life: Approximately 15 minutes depending upon ambient temperature Initial Cure: 15 minutes to harden Full Cure: 60 minutes http://epoxygator.com/ At 04:39 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: In my admittedly limited experience you can't drill and put screws into filler. I once repaired the leg of a swivel chair. I mean the part where the caster shaft goes in. The wood had broken away around the hole. The previous owner had tried to glue the original pieces back and that lasted about 5 seconds. I bought it off him for 5 dollars. I completely cut away the damaged wood making straight smooth cuts. Then I got a block of the same kind of wood and glued it in place. Then I planed and sanded it down to be smooth and drilled a new hole for the caster shaft. I sold it several years ago for 25 dollars and as far as I know it is still holding together. I didn't take the final step of finishing the added piece to match but it could be done and with care it should be invisible. Your situation is very different than mine because your break is in a highly visible area and on something that must be made to look as good as new. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.comm...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.nethttp://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.nethttp://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.comhttp://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.comfunwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.comfunwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Kevin Doucet mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.comcontac...@kevindoucet.com To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler I think I may have asked the wrong question. This article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores. I need to fill in a place whare the wood is broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place. At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Hi Good article on fillers found here. http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/filler s.shtmlhttp://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtmlhttp://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailt o:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Hi list, I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall board, part of the piano which closes and covers the keys that has broken away. This is at a screw whole. I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this filled in place will be visible when the fall board is raised. So my question, or two questions are; 1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill a pilot whole and put a screw in? 2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, allowing I can get the right color
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
Very good info, thanks much. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:54 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Just to let the list know what I found online. We don't have this neer to home but this sounds like it would fill the bill. EPOXYGATORR WOOD STICK EPOXY PUTTY is a wood workers go to repair product. Tenacious bonding to wood. Can be drilled, sawed, sanded, drilled and tapped. Repair fine furniture. 4 shades. Sizes available: 2oz (Length 3.5 Inches) 4oz. (Length 7 1/8 Inches) Technical Specs: EpoxyGatorR Alumina Stick Two component, ready to use simply by cutting amount desired, kneading by hand to a uniform consistency and apply. Bonds tenaciously to wood. Wood Stick epoxy putty has the same characterizes of wood and cab be used on the interior and exterior. COLORS AVAILABLE: 4 COLORS AVAILABLE Area must be clean and free of oils and dirt. For best results use a wire brush to scratch the surface to ensure proper bonding. If any oil is present, please wash/wipe it away using a solvent or cleaner. Cut the desired amount using a knife. Mix by kneading to a uniform consistency. All our epoxy putty sticks are two component and are conveniently colored. While mixing make sure both colors have blended well. Cooler weather will make the epoxy hard to mix. Simply heat up the epoxy stick until room temperature and use. After mixing, immediately apply within 2 minutes to the area. During the curing phase, material can be smoothed using slight damp fingers. Wash hands with soap and water after use. Pot Life: Approximately 15 minutes depending upon ambient temperature Initial Cure: 15 minutes to harden Full Cure: 60 minutes http://epoxygator.com/ At 04:39 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: In my admittedly limited experience you can't drill and put screws into filler. I once repaired the leg of a swivel chair. I mean the part where the caster shaft goes in. The wood had broken away around the hole. The previous owner had tried to glue the original pieces back and that lasted about 5 seconds. I bought it off him for 5 dollars. I completely cut away the damaged wood making straight smooth cuts. Then I got a block of the same kind of wood and glued it in place. Then I planed and sanded it down to be smooth and drilled a new hole for the caster shaft. I sold it several years ago for 25 dollars and as far as I know it is still holding together. I didn't take the final step of finishing the added piece to match but it could be done and with care it should be invisible. Your situation is very different than mine because your break is in a highly visible area and on something that must be made to look as good as new. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.comm...@maxsmusicplace.com mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.nethttp://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.nethttp://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.comhttp://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.comfunwithtransistors-s ubscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.comfunwithtubes-subscr...@yah oogroups.com mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Kevin Doucet mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.comcontac...@kevindoucet.com mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler I think I may have asked the wrong question. This article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores. I need to fill in a place whare the wood is broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place. At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Hi Good article on fillers found here. http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/filler s.shtmlhttp://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtmlhttp://www.woodc entral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailt o:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups. comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Hi list, I have a part of a piano
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
Hi Good article on fillers found here. http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Hi list, I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall board, part of the piano which closes and covers the keys that has broken away. This is at a screw whole. I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this filled in place will be visible when the fall board is raised. So my question, or two questions are; 1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill a pilot whole and put a screw in? 2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers? I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond quickly I would appreciate it. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
I think I may have asked the wrong question. This article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores. I need to fill in a place whare the wood is broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place. At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Hi Good article on fillers found here. http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtmlhttp://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Hi list, I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall board, part of the piano which closes and covers the keys that has broken away. This is at a screw whole. I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this filled in place will be visible when the fall board is raised. So my question, or two questions are; 1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill a pilot whole and put a screw in? 2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers? I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond quickly I would appreciate it. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
In my admittedly limited experience you can't drill and put screws into filler. I once repaired the leg of a swivel chair. I mean the part where the caster shaft goes in. The wood had broken away around the hole. The previous owner had tried to glue the original pieces back and that lasted about 5 seconds. I bought it off him for 5 dollars.I completely cut away the damaged wood making straight smooth cuts. Then I got a block of the same kind of wood and glued it in place. Then I planed and sanded it down to be smooth and drilled a new hole for the caster shaft. I sold it several years ago for 25 dollars and as far as I know it is still holding together. I didn't take the final step of finishing the added piece to match but it could be done and with care it should be invisible. Your situation is very different than mine because your break is in a highly visible area and on something that must be made to look as good as new. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Kevin Doucet contac...@kevindoucet.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler I think I may have asked the wrong question. This article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores. I need to fill in a place whare the wood is broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place. At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Hi Good article on fillers found here. http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtmlhttp://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Hi list, I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall board, part of the piano which closes and covers the keys that has broken away. This is at a screw whole. I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this filled in place will be visible when the fall board is raised. So my question, or two questions are; 1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill a pilot whole and put a screw in? 2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers? I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond quickly I would appreciate it. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.125/2600 - Release Date: 01/04/10 19:35:00
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Great and timely post! Thank you, Betsy At 11:30 AM 1/5/2010, you wrote: Hi Good article on fillers found here. http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtmlhttp://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler Hi list, I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall board, part of the piano which closes and covers the keys that has broken away. This is at a screw whole. I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this filled in place will be visible when the fall board is raised. So my question, or two questions are; 1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill a pilot whole and put a screw in? 2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers? I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond quickly I would appreciate it. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
