Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-15 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Olivier, *,

Olivier Hallot schrieb:

> Em 14-01-2011 16:16, Tom Davies escreveu:

>> OTOH if people use the email address "per...@openoffice.org" then it
>> gets the name "OpenOffice" out there and being seen by a lot of
>> people.  Free advertising!

> +1
> For some people this is even a matter of pride, like wearing a t-shirt
> with a well known brand or message.

I agree with this.

Regarding easy handling:
I tend to expect there is more good than bad to be generous with
@libreoffice.org Mail adresses to people joining or even beeing in favor
of LibreOffice. Similar as, but not equal as of with openoffice.org. As
mentioned by Bernhard, there should be a mechanism of revoking it and it
should be clear for everyone this can happen in case of missuse.

> So, nickn...@libreoffice.org

+ 1

> Leave the mail for TDF oficials as @documetnfoundation.org


Gruß/regards
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Re: [steering-discuss] ODFAuthors live!

2011-01-15 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 21:32 +0300, sophie wrote:
> Hi Olivier
> On 15/01/2011 21:07, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is an interesting news that passed too quickly among the LO 
> > folks. I think we should say some king words on their initiative and 
> > advertise it stronger in our lists and channels.
> >
> > http://www.odfauthors.org
> Well, it seems it has not been announced yet by Jean (I was with Florian 
> too early also ;-). May be we should just wait for Jean, Sigrid or 
> Andreas to make the official announcement and then, bring the support 
> you mentioned.

Hi,

Jean announced the site open today on the mailing list there.

- already pushed a blog entry and a few tweets on it...but a more
official one would be nice.

Thanks,

Drew




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Re: [steering-discuss] ODFAuthors live!

2011-01-15 Thread sophie

Hi Olivier
On 15/01/2011 21:07, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hi all,

This is an interesting news that passed too quickly among the LO 
folks. I think we should say some king words on their initiative and 
advertise it stronger in our lists and channels.


http://www.odfauthors.org
Well, it seems it has not been announced yet by Jean (I was with Florian 
too early also ;-). May be we should just wait for Jean, Sigrid or 
Andreas to make the official announcement and then, bring the support 
you mentioned.


Kind regards
Sophie


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[steering-discuss] ODFAuthors live!

2011-01-15 Thread Olivier Hallot

Hi all,

This is an interesting news that passed too quickly among the LO folks. 
I think we should say some king words on their initiative and advertise 
it stronger in our lists and channels.


http://www.odfauthors.org

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Voicing the enterprise
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[steering-discuss] Re: RT for membership ?

2011-01-15 Thread sophie

On 15/01/2011 18:46, Sophie Gautier wrote:

Hi MC/SC, all,

I begin to think about the tooling needed for the membership process.
Are we going to use RT [1] for handling requests and follow up? Gnome 
is using it for his membership as well.

Or have you already anything else in mind?
May be I should have add that I have not mentioned BZ for now because I 
think we (the members) don't want  to be treated like bugs ;-)
But if it simplifies everything np of course, we just need to choose the 
right component name.


Kind regards
Sophie


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[steering-discuss] RT for membership ?

2011-01-15 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi MC/SC, all,

I begin to think about the tooling needed for the membership process.
Are we going to use RT [1] for handling requests and follow up? Gnome is 
using it for his membership as well.

Or have you already anything else in mind?

[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request_Tracker

Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [steering-discuss] Minutes of SC call 2011-01-13 for review

2011-01-15 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hallo Christoph,

Am 15.01.2011 13:52, schrieb Christoph Noack:

> Am Freitag, den 14.01.2011, 21:34 +0100 schrieb Stefan Weigel:

>> Is this for the international ("main") site only? Are we still
>> allowed to use our roles as authors and publishers in Silverstripe,
>> as we have done the past weeks?
> 
> As far as I understand - no changes with regard to the local teams.

From Davids answer I read, that local teams should not edit in the
main site any more, but this is necessary for creating translations.
So, there won´t be translated pages any more. But I think, that´s
not a problem, since this feature of the CMS won´t be used any more
for other reasons anyway.

[other explanations]

> Stefan, does this help?

Yes. Thank you. :-)

Stefan

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Re: [steering-discuss] Minutes of SC call 2011-01-13 for review

2011-01-15 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Stefan, Tom, David!

Thanks for raising this question ... since David already answered, I'd
like to comment some parts as well.

Personally, I think the current decision doesn't convey the "very
positive mood" of the discussion within the SC. Once the recording is
online, I suggest to listen to some of the statements ... I found it
very encouraging.


Am Freitag, den 14.01.2011, 21:34 +0100 schrieb Stefan Weigel:
> Hi SC,
> 
> Am 14.01.2011 16:20, schrieb Andre Schnabel:
> 
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-01-13
> 
> 
> 
> # decision: SC appoints a team of 4 people that will be responsible
> for managing the website for a trial period of two months
> this team consists of:
> 
> * David Nelson (for textual content)
> * Christoph Noack (for user experience)
> * Ivan Miskovic (for design)
> * Christian Lohmaier (for infrastructure)
> 
> 
> 
> Is this for the international ("main") site only? Are we still
> allowed to use our roles as authors and publishers in Silverstripe,
> as we have done the past weeks?

As far as I understand - no changes with regard to the local teams.

I think the SC tried to achieve, that we do have a coordinated effort
for the international site - and all the local teams can benefit. For
example, I currently aim to raise some issues at the website mailing
list, since I hope that some local teams will listen there as well - in
the end, the English site addresses only a part of the whole community.

Next, I consider myself to be someone who may provide help and
support ... e.g. to help to evaluate proposals that are made with regard
to UX. Our aim should be to actively invite people to provide feedback
and shape content. But to implement this consistently, the team has been
set up.

I hope very much that the website team grows, so that we can share the
responsibility with many more people :-) Historically, the local teams
have much more experience providing dedicated sites ...

Stefan, does this help?

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-15 Thread sophie

Flo,
On 14/01/2011 11:11, Florian Effenberger wrote:
[...]

What are your thoughts?
I've forwarded your mail to the l10n list to get the feedback of the 
team. So the link to the archive of the thread is:



Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [steering-discuss] Minutes of SC call 2011-01-13 for review

2011-01-15 Thread Tom Davies
Brilliant :))

A good answer to cover all the concerns raised.  A small team with input from 
different mailing-list groups.  General discussion about that website and all 
the 'local' ones can be kept to the website mailing-list with any luck.  


Perhaps an occasional report to SC would be "the icing on the cake" but given 
that 'some' steering group members are on the website list and some website 
team 
are on the SC i think this would be best done informally.

Regards from
Tom :)







From: Stefan Weigel 
To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Fri, 14 January, 2011 20:34:19
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Minutes of SC call 2011-01-13 for review

Hi SC,

Am 14.01.2011 16:20, schrieb Andre Schnabel:

>http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-01-13
>3



# decision: SC appoints a team of 4 people that will be responsible
for managing the website for a trial period of two months
this team consists of:

* David Nelson (for textual content)
* Christoph Noack (for user experience)
* Ivan Miskovic (for design)
* Christian Lohmaier (for infrastructure)



Is this for the international ("main") site only? Are we still
allowed to use our roles as authors and publishers in Silverstripe,
as we have done the past weeks?

Stefan

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Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-15 Thread André Schnabel

Hi,

Am 14.01.2011 09:11, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org 
e-mail addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. 


Well, the real problem at OOo with such adresses was, that anybody could 
register at the website and then could use an @ooo mail address.

So *anybody* could claim to have some connection to OOo.

It's evident that @documentfoundation.org accounts are only for those 
who work for/with TDF and are eligible to represent them in certain 
aspects, like the SC or administrators.


For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as 
this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing 
liability issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, 
which is why I am writing this mail. :-)


I don't see, that we will run into the same troubles as OOo. We have a 
defined membership process, people can only become members, if they did 
some work to further our projects and will continue to do so. So 
becoming a TDF member is a privilege, that needs to be earned.
Why should we not show, that we welcome our members by giving a 
libreoffice.org mail address? Besides the already mentioned fact, that 
longer domain names are ugly, I'd like to keep it stupid simple:
- TDF representatives (SC, ESC, BoD, MC ...) get documentfoundation.org 
mail aliasses

- approved members get libreoffice.org mail aliasses

regards,

André


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