Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy
Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-06 13:54: Has the marketing or Branding team (or reps here) approved of either this version or the original? Since both have very much the same meanings i think approval of either would be good enough. everyone involved should be subscribed to the steering-discuss list, so they can give their comments if they want. :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots
Hi Christoph, Christoph Noack wrote on 2011-08-06 14:57: Screenshots for documentation, website and marketing should preferably be taken on GNU/Linux, but may also be taken on any other operating system. The Steering Committee acknowledges that there is a small legal risk involved for screenshots on non-free operating systems, but the risk is deemed low. The Steering Committee recommends a consistent visual appearance (e.g. theming) for the screenshots taken on the selected operating system. It is up to the LibreOffice community how to achieve that consistency. thanks for that! Honestly, I would leave out that last paragraph. This is something indeed the teams should decide, so I am not in favor of having that mentioned in an official SC decision. Let's try to keep the SC decisions as easy as possible. We could also mention that the resolution, the icon sets etc. should be decided by the teams, but I think this is out of scope for any SC decision So, would you object to leave out the third paragraph? :-) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots
Hi Florian, sorry if this turns out to be a discussion (here) again, but ... Am Sonntag, den 07.08.2011, 13:12 +0200 schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hi Christoph, Christoph Noack wrote on 2011-08-06 14:57: Screenshots for documentation, website and marketing should preferably be taken on GNU/Linux, but may also be taken on any other operating system. The Steering Committee acknowledges that there is a small legal risk involved for screenshots on non-free operating systems, but the risk is deemed low. The Steering Committee recommends a consistent visual appearance (e.g. theming) for the screenshots taken on the selected operating system. It is up to the LibreOffice community how to achieve that consistency. thanks for that! Honestly, I would leave out that last paragraph. This is something indeed the teams should decide, so I am not in favor of having that mentioned in an official SC decision. Although I also think that the paragraph I've proposed looks weird from the SC point-of-view, let's try it the other way round: Is the currently proposed SC decision (the first two paragraphs) helpful for the community and the project? At least it says that each individual, all of the teams are free in their decision - which is somehow good. But: when I've summarized the issue some mails ago, I got aware that screenshots are taken across all the teams (e.g. website, marketing, documentation, development). Screenshots and videos heavily influence how we (as a project) are perceived (by e.g. customers). In this case, some (balanced) recommendation by the SC might provide guidance across the teams. Unfortunately, decisions within the individual teams are hard, across the teams close to impossible :-) Consequently, I think that the two parts: decision (use any OS) and _recommendation_ (strive for some consistency, but decide yourself how to do that) adds value in this case. Let's try to keep the SC decisions as easy as possible. We could also mention that the resolution, the icon sets etc. should be decided by the teams, but I think this is out of scope for any SC decision True. So, would you object to leave out the third paragraph? :-) At least not hard - but please keep in mind that the originally proposed SC decision causes more uncertainty and inhomogeneity than we had before. So, I think that's the last pro active mail on this topic from my side (I already can hear some relief *G*). Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy
Hi :) I think Italo would have alerted us if there was a problem. Or someone else if he hadn't noticed it. Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sun, 7 August, 2011 11:59:15 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-06 13:54: Has the marketing or Branding team (or reps here) approved of either this version or the original? Since both have very much the same meanings i think approval of either would be good enough. everyone involved should be subscribed to the steering-discuss list, so they can give their comments if they want. :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots
The Steering Committee acknowledges that there is a small legal risk involved for screenshots on non-free operating systems, but the risk is deemed low. This is too strong. The fact is, every action any project takes is subject to legal risk. Name one that isn't. All that's happened here is that (for whatever motive) the theoretical risk has been articulated for (a part of) this case. I'd suggest saying: The Steering Committee feels that the legal risk involved in using screenshots of non-free desktops in documentation is no greater than any other theoretical risk facing software projects. S. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots
Hi :) That would completely change the statement. It is the opposite of what Florian wrote. Are we going to reopen discussion about the issue again? Regards from Tom :) From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sun, 7 August, 2011 13:44:24 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots The Steering Committee acknowledges that there is a small legal risk involved for screenshots on non-free operating systems, but the risk is deemed low. This is too strong. The fact is, every action any project takes is subject to legal risk. Name one that isn't. All that's happened here is that (for whatever motive) the theoretical risk has been articulated for (a part of) this case. I'd suggest saying: The Steering Committee feels that the legal risk involved in using screenshots of non-free desktops in documentation is no greater than any other theoretical risk facing software projects. S. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
