[board-discuss] Re: [steering-discuss] Vote for MC elections

2011-11-02 Thread Andreas Mantke
Am Mittwoch, 2. November 2011, 13:27:03 schrieb Caolan McNamara:
> On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 10:30 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> > I call the BoD to vote on the following:
> > 
> > ==
> > We postpone the MC elections and will have elections next year, so the
> > next MC will be in place by July 1st, 2012.
> 
> +1, seems sane.
> 
> C.

+1

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[board-discuss] Membership Committee

2011-11-02 Thread drew
Hi,

I've been reading over the BOD-discuss list with regards to the MC
makeup/elections.

It was my intent to run for a seat on the MC, it is my understanding now
that the elections will be moved to next year (the reasons seem quite
reasonable IM).

If I understand correctly there is however one slot currently not
filled, for a generic deputy. If this is correct then I would like to
offer my services for this position.

Sincerely,

Drew Jensen


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Re: [board-discuss] List renamed to board-discuss@documentfoundation.org

2011-11-02 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 14:19 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-11-02 14:14:
> 
> > as previously announced, this list has been renamed to
> >
> > board-discuss@documentfoundation.org
> 
> Drew: Can you adjust nabble? Thanks! ;)

Done

//drew


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[board-discuss] Pictures and abstracts for members and deputies aof the board (and MC)

2011-11-02 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi,

as I'm currently reworking the TDF website (info on foundation), 
I'd ask all the new Board members / deputies to send in a picture
as well as some short introduction.

Please have a look at https://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/board/
for examples. 

We are currently missing this for Björn, Andreas and (as I'm going to 
create a page for the MC as well) Fridrich.

Please be aware, that in the last meeting the Board did agree to use
our most favourite picture from the LibOCon, if you don't sent something
more appropriate :)

All other members are welcome to send in updated abstracts / pictures, if
you want me to change the information. 

Please send this all to me directly.


Note: I'm going to move the current fondation page (with the list of
inital SC and founding members) to a "history" page, so all the 
information there will be kept.

regards,

André

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Re: [board-discuss] List renamed to board-discuss@documentfoundation.org

2011-11-02 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-11-02 14:14:


as previously announced, this list has been renamed to

board-discuss@documentfoundation.org


Drew: Can you adjust nabble? Thanks! ;)

Speaking of that, I pinged GMANE in time, but currently GMANE for this 
list does not work, since I didn't receive a reply from them yet. Hope 
to have that fixed soon.


Florian

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[board-discuss] List renamed to board-discuss@documentfoundation.org

2011-11-02 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

as previously announced, this list has been renamed to

board-discuss@documentfoundation.org

All subscribers have been kept, but please assign your filters, and use 
the new address when posting.


Sorry for any inconveniences this may cause,
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Re: [steering-discuss] Vote for MC elections

2011-11-02 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/2/11 10:30 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

> ==
> We postpone the MC elections and will have elections next year, so the
> next MC will be in place by July 1st, 2012. This also helps us to not
> having elections of BoD and MC in parallel. (NB: This is a "gentlemen's
> agreement", since we cannot legally enforce the MC stepping down
> effective that date.)
> ==

+1

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Re: [steering-discuss] Vote for MC elections

2011-11-02 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote:
> ==
> We postpone the MC elections and will have elections next year, so
> the next MC will be in place by July 1st, 2012. This also helps us
> to not having elections of BoD and MC in parallel. (NB: This is a
> "gentlemen's agreement", since we cannot legally enforce the MC
> stepping down effective that date.)
> ==
> 
+1

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Re: [steering-discuss] Thorsten's stepdown

2011-11-02 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Thorsten,

Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2011-11-02 10:30:

yes, as per my announcement on Monday, when Norbert pointed this
out. I apologize for not noticing earlier, and thank Norbert for his
attention.


no worries. :-) Thanks for all the work you did in the MC, and it is an 
honour to be working with you in the BoD!


Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Vote for MC elections

2011-11-02 Thread Florian Effenberger

+1 from my side as well, of course

Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-11-02 10:30:

We postpone the MC elections and will have elections next year, so the
next MC will be in place by July 1st, 2012. This also helps us to not
having elections of BoD and MC in parallel. (NB: This is a "gentlemen's
agreement", since we cannot legally enforce the MC stepping down
effective that date.)


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Re: [steering-discuss] Vote for MC elections

2011-11-02 Thread Michael Meeks

On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 10:30 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> ==
> We postpone the MC elections and will have elections next year, so the 
> next MC will be in place by July 1st, 2012. This also helps us to not 
> having elections of BoD and MC in parallel. (NB: This is a "gentlemen's 
> agreement", since we cannot legally enforce the MC stepping down 
> effective that date.)
> ==

+1 :-)

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Re: [steering-discuss] Vote for MC elections

2011-11-02 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi,

> Datum: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:30:27 +0100
> Von: Florian Effenberger 


> 
> The statutes in their current draft foresee 1. deputies are not attached 
> to one specific seat holder 2. and the number of seat holders must be odd.
> 
> You proposed Norbert and Simon as members/deputies, but André also 
> wrote, you want to have a 5+2 setup. For that, one more seat holder is 
> missing. Do you want to propose someone, or shall the BoD come up with 
> someone? Or do you want to have a 3+3 setup?

No, we'd prefere a 5+2 setup.

It is up to the BoD to appoint the new members / deputies (if we do not go
for elections). We as the MC would suggest that Simon and Norbert would
be considered for such position. We had a brief discussion, if we can
suggest a third name as well. We had some ideas but no strong preferences, so 
we would leave it to the BoD. 

Btw. I don't want to give the impression that the BoD needs to follow our
suggestion.

regards,

André

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Re: [steering-discuss] Thorsten's stepdown

2011-11-02 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Thorsten has unsubscribed from the internal MC mailing list. I
> assume this means his stepdown is effective immediately.
>
Hi Flo, all,

yes, as per my announcement on Monday, when Norbert pointed this
out. I apologize for not noticing earlier, and thank Norbert for his
attention.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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Re: [steering-discuss] Thorsten's stepdown

2011-11-02 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi,

> Datum: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:17:57 +0100
> Von: Florian Effenberger 

> 
> Thorsten has unsubscribed from the internal MC mailing list. I assume 
> this means his stepdown is effective immediately (which makes sense, 
> since he is already officially in the BoD). I have therefore adjusted 
> the wiki page at 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee
> 
> In case there are objections to this, please let me know.


No, this is correct. Thorsten joined us in our last meeting just to say 
thanks and goodbye. 

So at this point - let me thank Thorsten for all the work at the MC and
especially setting up the election tooling and website.

As we are going to have new MC members elected or appointed soon, I'd say
is is ok for the remaining members to continue business with just
four people for a couple of weeks.


regards,

André

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[steering-discuss] Vote for MC elections

2011-11-02 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

since the MC agreed in yesterday's call [1] that they would be willing 
to serve for another couple of months, I call the BoD to vote on the 
following:


==
We postpone the MC elections and will have elections next year, so the 
next MC will be in place by July 1st, 2012. This also helps us to not 
having elections of BoD and MC in parallel. (NB: This is a "gentlemen's 
agreement", since we cannot legally enforce the MC stepping down 
effective that date.)

==

For voting on the composition of the MC until that time, I seek 
clarification from the MC itself:


The statutes in their current draft foresee 1. deputies are not attached 
to one specific seat holder 2. and the number of seat holders must be odd.


You proposed Norbert and Simon as members/deputies, but André also 
wrote, you want to have a 5+2 setup. For that, one more seat holder is 
missing. Do you want to propose someone, or shall the BoD come up with 
someone? Or do you want to have a 3+3 setup?


Florian


[1] 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-10-31


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[steering-discuss] Thorsten's stepdown

2011-11-02 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Thorsten has unsubscribed from the internal MC mailing list. I assume 
this means his stepdown is effective immediately (which makes sense, 
since he is already officially in the BoD). I have therefore adjusted 
the wiki page at 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee


In case there are objections to this, please let me know.

Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder to come to a decision

2011-11-02 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-11-02 09:59:

I am somewhat confused. Do you ask us to cast our final vote on the
decision to decide?:-)


André means that if we go for elections, we must start preparing 
*TODAY*, so we need a decision soon. I'll send out a formal proposal in 
a few minutes.


Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder to come to a decision (was: Preparing elections for the membership committee)

2011-11-02 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello André,

I am somewhat confused. Do you ask us to cast our final vote on the
decision to decide? :-)

Best,
Charles.


2011/11/2 Andre Schnabel 

> Dear board members,
>
> this is a friendly reminder that we need a desion if we will start
> the MC election process right now or if we postpone this to next year.
>
> The proposed schedule for the election process starts at the 4th of Nov.
> with the announcement of the elections, so there should be a decision by
> tomorrow.
>
> best regards,
>
> André
>
>
>  Original-Nachricht 
> > Datum: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:44:47 +0100
> > Von: "André Schnabel" 
> > An: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
> > Betreff: Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership
>  committee
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Am 30.10.2011 17:09, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud:
> > > Maybe we can do with the current MC as 'initially designated' for the
> > > first 6 month of the foundation and organize a MC election then, since
> > > it would be a good idea to have BoD election and MC election somewhat
> > > separated to avoid 'oversight'/'membership' issues.
> >
> > Seems reasonable to me - as long as there is a substitude for Thorsten
> > and all of the other MC members agree to be on duty for another 6 months.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > André
> >
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[steering-discuss] Reminder to come to a decision (was: Preparing elections for the membership committee)

2011-11-02 Thread Andre Schnabel
Dear board members,

this is a friendly reminder that we need a desion if we will start
the MC election process right now or if we postpone this to next year.

The proposed schedule for the election process starts at the 4th of Nov.
with the announcement of the elections, so there should be a decision by 
tomorrow.

best regards,

André


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:44:47 +0100
> Von: "André Schnabel" 
> An: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
> Betreff: Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership
> committee

> Hi,
> 
> Am 30.10.2011 17:09, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud:
> > Maybe we can do with the current MC as 'initially designated' for the
> > first 6 month of the foundation and organize a MC election then, since
> > it would be a good idea to have BoD election and MC election somewhat
> > separated to avoid 'oversight'/'membership' issues.
> 
> Seems reasonable to me - as long as there is a substitude for Thorsten 
> and all of the other MC members agree to be on duty for another 6 months.
> 
> regards,
> 
> André
> 
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