Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] LibreOffice Online freeze-related decisions

2021-02-10 Thread Lothar K. Becker

  
  
Sorry, thought I already did answer in this vote, but there were
some remarks from Emiliano, so:

Still +1 also for the clarification of Emiliano throughout,

because with the latest infos from Guilhem and as we then do not
have another tooling / play ground in TDF for acquiring new
contributors this makes sense to me.

Best Lothar

Am 05.02.2021 um 14:26 schrieb Emiliano
  Vavassori:


  Il 02/02/21 18:10, Daniel Armando Rodriguez ha scritto:

  
Hi,

I think it's pretty clear that several BoD members, me included, have
misunderstood the implication of such vote. Especially 1b. So, my take
is to vote on Guilhems proposal, detailed bellow. Which I support.

"rewind branches on https://git.libreoffice.org/online and for the time
being deny all write
operations to the repository, be it on the git or gerrit side.  It'll
freeze the state of the dashboard, notification, and other clones for
free, and if/when we decide to accept contributions again everything
will be just one switch away."

  
  
+1, but I think the proposal misses some bits. I'll try to cope with them:

* branches will be rewinded to commit (or the commits before)
4ca4fd34169dd386c2fa57bd28650c00b23d6864 (last commit before changes by
Collabora)
* OpenGrok needs to point to the TDF git/gerrit
* revert decision 1b and (if feasible) point TDF repo on GitHub on
git/gerrit on TDF infra.

After this bits, I think this whole votes needs another round of
confirmation - to be sure that also these bits are consensual.

Cheers,



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Re: [board-discuss] [DISCUSS] LibreOffice Online freeze-related decisions

2021-02-10 Thread Guilhem Moulin
Hi Emiliano,

On Fri, 05 Feb 2021 at 14:26:53 +0100, Emiliano Vavassori wrote:
> * revert decision 1b and (if feasible) point TDF repo on GitHub on
> git/gerrit on TDF infra.

Other BoD members are already voting on this but I have trouble understanding
what that means.  From https://listarchives.tdf.io/i/gVuesWC6ZI0MUequqiqJ3nrc

| 1b. to switch the https://github.com/libreoffice/online mirror to
| instead mirror the Collabora repo, for the time being, and make sure we
| catch pull requests there, e.g. via the mentoring alias on TDF side

Before that https://github.com/libreoffice/online was a read-only mirror
for https://git.libreoffice.org/online , so by “revert decision 1b” I
guess you mean to make it so again?  Should both this and
https://listarchives.tdf.io/i/IbatXLjaK38BCbLBNiiw7Ned be approved, this
would mean that the tip of the master branch on both
https://git.libreoffice.org/online and https://github.com/libreoffice/online
would point to 4ca4fd34169dd386c2fa57bd28650c00b23d6864^.  (As was the
case between the Oct 1 and the implementation of the aforementioned BoD
decision.)

But what do you mean by the second part of your proposal: “(if feasible)
point TDF repo on GitHub on git/gerrit on TDF infra”?  I can't think of
an interpretation that's not already covered by “revert decision 1b”.

Cheers
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Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] LibreOffice Online freeze-related decisions

2021-02-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Emiliano Vavassori wrote on 05/02/2021 14:26:

> +1, but I think the proposal misses some bits. I'll try to cope with them:
> 
> * branches will be rewinded to commit (or the commits before)
> 4ca4fd34169dd386c2fa57bd28650c00b23d6864 (last commit before changes by
> Collabora)
> * OpenGrok needs to point to the TDF git/gerrit
> * revert decision 1b and (if feasible) point TDF repo on GitHub on
> git/gerrit on TDF infra.

Thanks for writing that down. And fine for me.
We all see it as an intermediate state, and want to work on 'the future' :)

Cheers,
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Re: [board-discuss] [DISCUSS] LibreOffice Online freeze-related decisions

2021-02-10 Thread Emiliano Vavassori
Il 10/02/21 13:08, Guilhem Moulin ha scritto:
> Before that https://github.com/libreoffice/online was a read-only mirror
> for https://git.libreoffice.org/online , so by “revert decision 1b” I
> guess you mean to make it so again?  Should both this and
> https://listarchives.tdf.io/i/IbatXLjaK38BCbLBNiiw7Ned be approved, this
> would mean that the tip of the master branch on both
> https://git.libreoffice.org/online and https://github.com/libreoffice/online
> would point to 4ca4fd34169dd386c2fa57bd28650c00b23d6864^.  (As was the
> case between the Oct 1 and the implementation of the aforementioned BoD
> decision.)

That's exactly what I propose, in a much richer and precise description.

> But what do you mean by the second part of your proposal: “(if feasible)
> point TDF repo on GitHub on git/gerrit on TDF infra”?  I can't think of
> an interpretation that's not already covered by “revert decision 1b”.

Indeed. The second part of the phrase was only meant to explicitly state
what is going to happen in the end (including the technical clearance to
do it). "Revert decision 1b" should be quite clear by itself.

As stated (elsewhere), I intend these modifications as a temporary way
until a definitive and shared way will be decided by the Board.

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Re: [board-discuss] [DISCUSS] LibreOffice Online freeze-related decisions

2021-02-10 Thread Guilhem Moulin
On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 15:22:06 +0100, Emiliano Vavassori wrote:
>> But what do you mean by the second part of your proposal: “(if feasible)
>> point TDF repo on GitHub on git/gerrit on TDF infra”?  I can't think of
>> an interpretation that's not already covered by “revert decision 1b”.
> 
> Indeed. The second part of the phrase was only meant to explicitly state
> what is going to happen in the end (including the technical clearance to
> do it). "Revert decision 1b" should be quite clear by itself.

Ack, thanks for clarifying!  Part of the confusion was that some of you
voted in favor of 1b then in favor of reverting it, but well I guess
everyone is allowed to change their opinion :-)
 
> As stated (elsewhere), I intend these modifications as a temporary way
> until a definitive and shared way will be decided by the Board.

Thank you for spelling this out.

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[board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online freeze-related decisions

2021-02-10 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

The Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat holders 
(not including deputies). In order to be quorate, the vote needs to have 
1/2 or more of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4.


A total of 7 Board of Directors members have participated in the vote.

The vote is quorate.

A quorum could be reached with a simple majority of 4 votes.

Emiliano Vavassori wrote on 05.02.21 at 14:26:

"rewind branches onhttps://git.libreoffice.org/online  and for the time
being deny all write
operations to the repository, be it on the git or gerrit side.  It'll
freeze the state of the dashboard, notification, and other clones for
free, and if/when we decide to accept contributions again everything
will be just one switch away."

+1, but I think the proposal misses some bits. I'll try to cope with them:

* branches will be rewinded to commit (or the commits before)
4ca4fd34169dd386c2fa57bd28650c00b23d6864 (last commit before changes by
Collabora)


Result of vote: 6 approvals, 1 abstain, 0 disapprovals.
One deputy is in favor.
Decision: The proposal has been accepted.


* OpenGrok needs to point to the TDF git/gerrit


Result of vote: 6 approvals, 1 abstain, 0 disapprovals.
One deputy is in favor.
Decision: The proposal has been accepted.


* revert decision 1b and (if feasible) point TDF repo on GitHub on
git/gerrit on TDF infra.


Result of vote: 5 approvals, 1 abstain, 1 disapproval.
One deputy is in favor.
Decision: The proposal has been accepted.

Florian

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[board-discuss] Updated representation statement Thorsten Behrens

2021-02-10 Thread Thorsten Behrens
I, Thorsten Behrens, elected member of the Board of Directors of The
Document Foundation, hereby and until further notice, nominate the
following deputy to represent me during board calls and meetings:

 1. Nicolas Christener

All the best,

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