[board-discuss] Re: Drafting Tender "Improve the accessibility checker for PDF/UA"

2022-05-16 Thread Tomaž Vajngerl

Hi,

On 11. 05. 22 00:36, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello,

one of the approved [1] tenders is the

  Improve the accessibility checker for PDF/UA

The board would like to work together in public with all of you on 
this tender before it gets officially published. The current draft is 
therefore shared at


https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/WE6tsYjAZietK9q

The board is happy to get your feedback and proposals. We'd like to 
discuss this ideally in the board call on Monday, May 16, at 1800 
Berlin time. Please send your feedback to the public 
board-discuss@documentfoundation.org mailing list. Thanks a lot to all 
community members involved for working on the tender draft!



I looked through the draft and it is OK, but I have some comments:

It says "The goal of this task would be to improve that up to the state 
that it could be enabled in non-experimental mode." The checker is not 
in "experimental" since I think 7.1, so that goal is "done". I would 
reword that bit.. the checker definitely needs to be further improved.


One more objective should also be to implement the accessibility checker 
also for Impress, Calc and Draw as it needs the ground work for running 
the checks implemented for those components. If we miss some useful 
accessibility check then they can easily be added (could be an 
"interesting" easy hack), but if the ground work is missing, then this 
is a bigger hurdle that needs an experienced developer to do the work. 
Also many of the checks are already implemented, if they are using 
common objects, but without the ground work done, they can't be run.



Looking forward to your feedback,

Olivier

[1] 
https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00400.html 




Best regards,

Tomaž Vajngerl


Re: AW: [EXTERN]-[board-discuss] Re: Drafting Tender "Improve the accessibility checker for PDF/UA"

2022-05-16 Thread Heiko Tietze

On 16.05.22 15:12, Dataport CCO Libre Office wrote:

there was a lady in the German community call last year  it was me = Susanne 
Mohn.


Yes, Susanne! Awesome that you have picked up this thread.


I would be very happy to participate as a reviewer.
An e-mail chain for this is also in the German group- should we continue there?


The tender circulates first among a committee of experts. Since the board of 
directors is apparently happy to be involved in this step, the proposal is being 
discussed on this mailing list.


Cheers,
Heiko


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AW: [EXTERN]-[board-discuss] Re: Drafting Tender "Improve the accessibility checker for PDF/UA"

2022-05-16 Thread Dataport CCO Libre Office
Hallo Heiko, 

there was a lady in the German community call last year  it was me = Susanne 
Mohn.
 I reportet the bugs 139007, 140617 and 141386. 
We need it accessebility free documents for he inplementation of libreoffice in 
Schleswig-Holstein. 
The implementation in LO 7.3 is not complete.

I would be very happy to participate as a reviewer. 
An e-mail chain for this is also in the German group- should we continue there?

Sorry about my bad english.

Susanne


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Von: Heiko Tietze  
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2022 09:37
An: board-discuss@documentfoundation.org
Betreff: [EXTERN]-[board-discuss] Re: Drafting Tender "Improve the 
accessibility checker for PDF/UA"

I wonder why the other tickets from META bug 139007 are excluded (btw, there is 
kind of duplicate META bug 101912 with a lot more). Bug 149000 is on hold since 
you asked UX for input (personally I think Print is over-engineering in respect 
to the workflow). Bug 148971 about the non-modal window could also be handled 
per sidebar deck, which I prefer over the modality tweak. An alternative is to 
insert the issues as annotations/comments in the document. On one ticket we 
discussed the help on each issue, could be an infobutton (question mark icon) 
that shows a dialog why this tag is needed and what to do. Three weeks seems 
underestimated if we expect to solve all issues.

Looking at the current UI, I think a bit design work could be beneficial. Some 
issues are rather warnings (eg. Avoid Footnotes) other are mandatory (No Alt 
Text). Perhaps we copy the SEO plugin look and feel - or was it the readability 
checker? - from Wordpress.

As reviewers we could invite Christophe Strobbe who comments a lot on these 
tickets and there was a lady in the German community call last year... don't 
remember her name.

PS: Cannot comment on the NC document.

On 10.05.22 17:36, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> Hello,
>
> one of the approved [1] tenders is the
>
>   Improve the accessibility checker for PDF/UA
>
> The board would like to work together in public with all of you on 
> this tender before it gets officially published. The current draft is 
> therefore shared at
>
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/WE6tsYjAZietK9q
>
> The board is happy to get your feedback and proposals. We'd like to 
> discuss this ideally in the board call on Monday, May 16, at 1800 
> Berlin time. Please send your feedback to the public 
> board-discuss@documentfoundation.org mailing list. Thanks a lot to all 
> community members involved for working on the tender draft!
>
> Looking forward to your feedback,
>
> Olivier
>
> [1]
> https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg
> 00400.html