Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Thank you Christoph! And now again, and hopefully for the last time, SC members only, please cast your vote in the form of +1 or -1 for the approval of the Trademark Policy. This ballot shall close tomorrow at 2 pm CET (Berlin/Paris). Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi, Christoph Noack wrote on 2011-03-04 22.49: Done. Revised content is now on the trademark guidelines page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy I hope I didn't miss anything ... thanks a lot! If there are no objections, Charles can start the next voting round. :-) Anyone who wants to raise concerns, please send them in *now*. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi Florian, Charles, all! Thank you Florian for stepping in :-) Am Freitag, den 04.03.2011, 13:10 +0100 schrieb Florian Effenberger: > so, Christoph, can you please commit your changes; Charles, can you - > after verifying it - start a new voting round on Monday or so? Done. Revised content is now on the trademark guidelines page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy I hope I didn't miss anything ... Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Sure, i'll do another round of voting on monday. Charles. Le 4 mars 2011, 1:23 PM, "Caolan McNamara" a écrit : On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 18:12 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 18:19 +0100, Charles... > > Please also make sure you have read the additional material here: > > http://wiki.documentfounda... The current Logo page currently says: "Distributors of the substantially unmodified binaries are allowed to distribute the product, so they distribute it with the TDF subline inside the product. If you're unsure of what is meant by "substantially unmodified binaries" please refer to the clause 1 of the Permitted Use section in the TDF Trademark Policy." which seems to bring the Logo Policy back into sync with the Trademark policy, i.e. we don't have to change the splashscreen if we don't substantially modify the binaries. Guess should hold off on voting until the final Monday round, but Trademark and Logo policies are looking reasonable to me. C. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive:... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-03-04 11.30: May I propose we start another round on Monday? Christoph's changes still need to be incorporated, and I want to avoid confusion which version we approve now. So, my proposal: Let's work on the last issues over the weekend, incorporate them into the above pages, and then finally vote on Monday for 24 hours - ok? sure. so, Christoph, can you please commit your changes; Charles, can you - after verifying it - start a new voting round on Monday or so? Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi, 2011/3/4 Florian Effenberger > sorry for jumping in so late - was busy with non-TDF work yesterday, and > was ill the day before. > > May I propose we start another round on Monday? Christoph's changes still > need to be incorporated, and I want to avoid confusion which version we > approve now. So, my proposal: Let's work on the last issues over the > weekend, incorporate them into the above pages, and then finally vote on > Monday for 24 hours - ok? sure. Best, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-03-01 18.19: Please vote +1 or -1 in order to approve the trademark policy (text is here:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy) Please also make sure you have read the additional material here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy and there: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources_for_external_use I would like to close this vote in about 24 hours from now. sorry for jumping in so late - was busy with non-TDF work yesterday, and was ill the day before. May I propose we start another round on Monday? Christoph's changes still need to be incorporated, and I want to avoid confusion which version we approve now. So, my proposal: Let's work on the last issues over the weekend, incorporate them into the above pages, and then finally vote on Monday for 24 hours - ok? Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-03-04 06.53: Darn, i only have my phone with me today and this weekend, Florian and/or the admin team can help you out... ah, nevermind, I found it out. Christoph, you can now edit the TM policy page (I'm rather busy today, so I would be happy if someone could do this). Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-03-04 06.53: Darn, i only have my phone with me today and this weekend, Florian and/or the admin team can help you out... hm, what's the exact problem? Christoph cannot edit the TM policy, or I shall protect it? Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi Charles, argh, sorry ... of course you said that you won't be fully available during the end of the week. Cheers, Christoph Am Freitag, den 04.03.2011, 06:53 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > Christoph, > > Darn, i only have my phone with me today and this weekend, Florian and/or > the admin team can help you out... > > Sorry, > Charles. > > Le 4 mars 2011, 12:13 AM, "Christoph Noack" a > écrit : > > Hi Charles, hi all! > > Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 16:42 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > > > - changes requested by Christoph: I added one sentence about the > english > version being the off... > Okay, I had a look (or two) on the pages ... > > TRADEMARK POLICY > > Fortunately, there seems to be sufficient protection, since I was unable > to edit the Trademark Policy wiki page. Thus, I've edited the content on > my user page that should be (if the changes are perceived as > improvements) copied to the real page. Charles, could you take care of > that, please? > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/Temporary_Work_Space#The_Document_Foundation_Trademark_Policy > > Changes: > * Overall: Added some headings to improve the structure of the >text and to ensure proper TOC creation by the wiki (although >some changes might appear awkward) > * Section "Related Information": Added this section (referring to >Logo Policy, Branding Guidelines) and linked from within the >text to this section. > * Section "The Trademarks": Added list of the trademarks to ease >the understandability --> By the way, the information is >duplicated in "Purpose"; is that helpful? > * Overall: Converted the text-only mail address into a "clickable" >mail address > * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits >to the wiki > > > LOGO POLICY > > I've overhauled the logo policy, although the naming of some items seems > still to be strange (I'd like to have some shorter names like: TDF Logo, > Community Logo - or something like that). > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy > Major Changes: > * Moved the content to a table > * Changed the point-of-view from "we" to "TDF", and >"they/external" to "other" --> Rationale: Most of the people >will be part of the community, so it would be strange to tell >them being "external". The "we" for TDF seemed a bit too >self-centered ... although it is correct from our >point-of-view :-) > * Added "Usage Examples" --> Are these descriptions okay, are more >important ones missing? I think these examples have great value >in describing when to use, when to avoid the TDF subline logo. > * Overall: Improved description of legal mailing list (now: >"non-public") > * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits >to the wiki > > Since there have been major changes, could you please thoroughly check > whether the text still fits to your thoughts and our goals? > > > Thanks a lot! > > Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > steering-discuss+help@documentfoundatio... > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Drew, Basically one is the general rule, the tm policy. The other one is the guideline for the logo. However if you point to a case where there might be conflict, We'd be happy to review them and fix them. Best, Charles. Le 4 mars 2011, 1:00 AM, "drew" a écrit : On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 00:12 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Charles, hi all! > > > LOGO POLICY > > I've overhauled the logo policy, although the naming of some items seems >... Hi, Well which is it - is the community logo w/registered trademark, mark or not? - it is both ways on the wiki page above - PNG w/out any mark, SVG with 'registered trademark", while on the trademark policy page it seems that maybe it is just a "tm" that is appropriate at this time. Thanks so much, in advance Drew Jensen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List arch... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Christoph, Darn, i only have my phone with me today and this weekend, Florian and/or the admin team can help you out... Sorry, Charles. Le 4 mars 2011, 12:13 AM, "Christoph Noack" a écrit : Hi Charles, hi all! Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 16:42 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > - changes requested by Christoph: I added one sentence about the > english version being the off... Okay, I had a look (or two) on the pages ... TRADEMARK POLICY Fortunately, there seems to be sufficient protection, since I was unable to edit the Trademark Policy wiki page. Thus, I've edited the content on my user page that should be (if the changes are perceived as improvements) copied to the real page. Charles, could you take care of that, please? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/Temporary_Work_Space#The_Document_Foundation_Trademark_Policy Changes: * Overall: Added some headings to improve the structure of the text and to ensure proper TOC creation by the wiki (although some changes might appear awkward) * Section "Related Information": Added this section (referring to Logo Policy, Branding Guidelines) and linked from within the text to this section. * Section "The Trademarks": Added list of the trademarks to ease the understandability --> By the way, the information is duplicated in "Purpose"; is that helpful? * Overall: Converted the text-only mail address into a "clickable" mail address * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits to the wiki LOGO POLICY I've overhauled the logo policy, although the naming of some items seems still to be strange (I'd like to have some shorter names like: TDF Logo, Community Logo - or something like that). http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy Major Changes: * Moved the content to a table * Changed the point-of-view from "we" to "TDF", and "they/external" to "other" --> Rationale: Most of the people will be part of the community, so it would be strange to tell them being "external". The "we" for TDF seemed a bit too self-centered ... although it is correct from our point-of-view :-) * Added "Usage Examples" --> Are these descriptions okay, are more important ones missing? I think these examples have great value in describing when to use, when to avoid the TDF subline logo. * Overall: Improved description of legal mailing list (now: "non-public") * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits to the wiki Since there have been major changes, could you please thoroughly check whether the text still fits to your thoughts and our goals? Thanks a lot! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+help@documentfoundatio... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 00:12 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Charles, hi all! > > > LOGO POLICY > > I've overhauled the logo policy, although the naming of some items seems > still to be strange (I'd like to have some shorter names like: TDF Logo, > Community Logo - or something like that). > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy Hi, Well which is it - is the community logo w/registered trademark, mark or not? - it is both ways on the wiki page above - PNG w/out any mark, SVG with 'registered trademark", while on the trademark policy page it seems that maybe it is just a "tm" that is appropriate at this time. Thanks so much, in advance Drew Jensen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi Charles, hi all! Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 16:42 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > - changes requested by Christoph: I added one sentence about the > english version being the official one. As for usability, please go > ahead :-) make sure people understand there's one page dedicated to > the logos though. Okay, I had a look (or two) on the pages ... TRADEMARK POLICY Fortunately, there seems to be sufficient protection, since I was unable to edit the Trademark Policy wiki page. Thus, I've edited the content on my user page that should be (if the changes are perceived as improvements) copied to the real page. Charles, could you take care of that, please? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/Temporary_Work_Space#The_Document_Foundation_Trademark_Policy Changes: * Overall: Added some headings to improve the structure of the text and to ensure proper TOC creation by the wiki (although some changes might appear awkward) * Section "Related Information": Added this section (referring to Logo Policy, Branding Guidelines) and linked from within the text to this section. * Section "The Trademarks": Added list of the trademarks to ease the understandability --> By the way, the information is duplicated in "Purpose"; is that helpful? * Overall: Converted the text-only mail address into a "clickable" mail address * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits to the wiki LOGO POLICY I've overhauled the logo policy, although the naming of some items seems still to be strange (I'd like to have some shorter names like: TDF Logo, Community Logo - or something like that). http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy Major Changes: * Moved the content to a table * Changed the point-of-view from "we" to "TDF", and "they/external" to "other" --> Rationale: Most of the people will be part of the community, so it would be strange to tell them being "external". The "we" for TDF seemed a bit too self-centered ... although it is correct from our point-of-view :-) * Added "Usage Examples" --> Are these descriptions okay, are more important ones missing? I think these examples have great value in describing when to use, when to avoid the TDF subline logo. * Overall: Improved description of legal mailing list (now: "non-public") * Overall: Changed "hard" formatting to a style that better fits to the wiki Since there have been major changes, could you please thoroughly check whether the text still fits to your thoughts and our goals? Thanks a lot! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hello, I'll answer everyone in one mail. Please bear on with me: - changes Italo requested: done. - changes Michael requested: I tried to clarify and add space in the Permitted use section, fixed the missing link, fixed the line break and other obvious things. As for the general contradiction between the Logo guidelines and the Trademark Policy itself, I inserted inside the Logo policy page the notion of "substantially unmodified version of LibreOffice" that already exists in the Trademark Policy. It fixes the inconsistency or even the contradiction between the two. You may object of course we might just merge the two pages, but that's where I disagree: Legally speaking, trademarks, logos, image marks, wordmarks are different notions and have different values. Of course the right and broad way to discuss them is by using and clarifying the notion of trademarks, but the trademark is not a logo only (and vice-versa). So I still think it's good to somewhat separate them. - changes requested by Christoph: I added one sentence about the english version being the official one. As for usability, please go ahead :-) make sure people understand there's one page dedicated to the logos though. Thank you everyone... I guess the vote is being reconducted for one more period of 24 hours now. Best, Charles. Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 07:47:31 +0100, Christoph Noack a écrit : > Hi Charles (again), > > one thing I've noticed after having some hours sleep ... its is rather > about handling than touching the content of the Trademark Policy. > > Since the Trademark Policy is something "official" and it might (or: I > hope ...) get translated into various languages and there might be > variances in its meaning, is there any need to highlight that the > English version is the "binding" one? > > At least for other topics like the Bylaws, or the Branding Guidelines > this may be assumed - but do we require a more explicit statement > here? > > Cheers, > Christoph > > Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 00:02 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack: > > Hi Charles, > > > > thanks for the effort - besides the stuff already mentioned ... some > > less "legal", but rather "understandability" related comments: > > > > * Understandability: Most of the tdf mail addresses refer to > > mailing lists, but "le...@documentfoundation.org" is "just" > > a normal mail address. This difference might be important for some > > people - would it be helpful to say "... send an email to > > the non-public address le...@documentfoundation.org"? > > * Usability: Most of the text doesn't use wiki capabilities > > like headings or second outline level enumeration (e.g. no TOC is > > added by the wiki that might make finding the desired > > information more quickly). > > * Usability: Once the text is finalized, we may ask to add the > > logo examples - the logo graphics are already in the wiki, > > so why not use them? > > > > Concerning the usability items; I can work on this once the text is > > approved ... or (just ping me), I can try to improve things tomorrow > > evening - if it is needed before any final approval. > > > > Am Dienstag, den 01.03.2011, 18:19 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > > > *** SC Members and their deputies*** > > > > > > Please vote +1 or -1 in order to approve the trademark policy > > > (text is here: > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy) > > > > +1 (having in mind the comments above and below, and by the others) > > > > > Please also make sure you have read the additional material here: > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy and there: > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources_for_external_use > > > > Another small comment - I've asked on the design list whether > > "external use" is a proper name for that. There is an ongoing > > discussion how to name that, and whether to separate the different > > logos for TDF / community use. So please be aware that we might > > (ask to) change this naming in the near future ... > > > > Charles, thanks for your work! > > > > Cheers, > > Christoph > > > > > > > -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
Hi Charles (again), one thing I've noticed after having some hours sleep ... its is rather about handling than touching the content of the Trademark Policy. Since the Trademark Policy is something "official" and it might (or: I hope ...) get translated into various languages and there might be variances in its meaning, is there any need to highlight that the English version is the "binding" one? At least for other topics like the Bylaws, or the Branding Guidelines this may be assumed - but do we require a more explicit statement here? Cheers, Christoph Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 00:02 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack: > Hi Charles, > > thanks for the effort - besides the stuff already mentioned ... some > less "legal", but rather "understandability" related comments: > > * Understandability: Most of the tdf mail addresses refer to > mailing lists, but "le...@documentfoundation.org" is "just" a > normal mail address. This difference might be important for some > people - would it be helpful to say "... send an email to the > non-public address le...@documentfoundation.org"? > * Usability: Most of the text doesn't use wiki capabilities like > headings or second outline level enumeration (e.g. no TOC is > added by the wiki that might make finding the desired > information more quickly). > * Usability: Once the text is finalized, we may ask to add the > logo examples - the logo graphics are already in the wiki, so > why not use them? > > Concerning the usability items; I can work on this once the text is > approved ... or (just ping me), I can try to improve things tomorrow > evening - if it is needed before any final approval. > > Am Dienstag, den 01.03.2011, 18:19 +0100 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > > *** SC Members and their deputies*** > > > > Please vote +1 or -1 in order to approve the trademark policy (text is > > here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy) > > +1 (having in mind the comments above and below, and by the others) > > > Please also make sure you have read the additional material here: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy and there: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources_for_external_use > > Another small comment - I've asked on the design list whether "external > use" is a proper name for that. There is an ongoing discussion how to > name that, and whether to separate the different logos for TDF / > community use. So please be aware that we might (ask to) change this > naming in the near future ... > > Charles, thanks for your work! > > Cheers, > Christoph > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
+1 On 01-03-2011 14:19, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: *** SC Members and their deputies*** Please vote +1 or -1 in order to approve the trademark policy (text is here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy) Please also make sure you have read the additional material here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy and there: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources_for_external_use I would like to close this vote in about 24 hours from now. Thank you, -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Steering Commitee Member - The Document Foundation Voicing the enterprise Translation Leader for Brazilian Portuguese -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Approval of our Trademark Policy
On 3/1/11 6:19 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Please vote +1 or -1 in order to approve the trademark policy (text is here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy) This sentence: Trademarks cover the following names: "The Document Foundation", and "LibreOffice". "TDF" and "LibO" are not trademarks, they are just acronyms we use for convenience. Every time these acronyms are used in this document, they refer to "The Document Foundation" and/or "LibreOffice". is inconsistent with this other sentence: TDF owns a number of trademarks and these include The Document Foundation, TDF, LibreOffice and LibO. As other trademarks are created or registered, this list will be updated. This second sentence should read: TDF owns a number of trademarks, and these include The Document Foundation and LibreOffice. As other trademarks are created or registered, this list will be updated. In addition, in the second part of the document, "TDF Trademarks" has been substituted by "the Marks", and this may lead to confusion. "The Marks" should be replaced by "TDF Trademarks". Once amended, the document is OK for me. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com Mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***