Re: [Boston.pm] Padre, Scribes
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:31 AM, rob levy wrote: > Python still seems like a less powerful Perl pretending to be a more > advanced and "cleaned up" Perl. well it's in a sense both, but most people never see what it's missing. The full power of pure closures is most useful to framework and metatool designers, and rarely understood by others. There's a reason most non-academic languages don't bother. But without closures we never would have kept Damian. TIMTOWDI is a virtue to Larry and to Perl community. It's the original sin to Guido. The redundancy of keywords and braces lets perl give us useful syntax errors, Python relies on their equivalent of perltidy to find out if they mashed something; having used a structured Fortran that almost worked that way, I can see the appeal, but it's not what i am used to. With compromised wrists, I can see the attraction of a language with more letters less punctuation. The Gnu/Linux distros converging on Python as replacement for cfg, *sh, perl, VB have desire for one solution that covers a span from simplest configs to fairly complex coding, one that won't scare someone advised to tweak a constant. They aren't required to support Damian / PurpleWizard grade magic. Having an enforced One True Way style is in their world a feature. > I definitely prefer Python over PHP though, > which is just a ***d cousin of Perl. modulo the unPC adjective, exactly its history, the author built his own web server in Perl and then to get Mod_perl / fast_cgi speed reimplemented only those things he'd used in C. > But Perl is much more expressive > and powerful being designed by a linguist has its definite benefits. For those of us who see expressiveness in all its meanings as good in coding. Of course it's that very expressiveness that lends it to JAPH and Golf and dueling style wars. -- Bill n1...@arrl.net bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Padre, Scribes
Python still seems like a less powerful Perl pretending to be a more advanced and "cleaned up" Perl. I definitely prefer Python over PHP though, which is just a retarded cousin of Perl. But Perl is much more expressive and powerful (and faster, maybe with the exception of OO stuff) than Python, Ruby etc. For GUI apps, I much prefer Clojure. It has all of the GUI capabilities from Java, but instead of writing in Java you get to write in a (fast) dynamic language. Rob On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Tom Metro wrote: > Steve Scaffidi wrote: > >> I just used cpan to install Padre...I made sure to install the >> libwx-perl package... >> > > So Padre is written in Perl? > > I recently ran across Scribes[1], an editor written in Python. > > I see Python being used more and more for GUI apps., and am envious. The > necessary glue and GUI libraries never really attained production quality > for Perl. Python seems to be becoming a modern day Visual Basic. :-) (While > VB the language deserves the criticism it gets, the concept of a rapid GUI > development tool is a useful one.) > > 1. http://scribes.sourceforge.net/ > > -Tom > > -- > Tom Metro > Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA > "Enterprise solutions through open source." > Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ > > ___ > Boston-pm mailing list > Boston-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm > ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] Padre, Scribes
Steve Scaffidi wrote: I just used cpan to install Padre...I made sure to install the libwx-perl package... So Padre is written in Perl? I recently ran across Scribes[1], an editor written in Python. I see Python being used more and more for GUI apps., and am envious. The necessary glue and GUI libraries never really attained production quality for Perl. Python seems to be becoming a modern day Visual Basic. :-) (While VB the language deserves the criticism it gets, the concept of a rapid GUI development tool is a useful one.) 1. http://scribes.sourceforge.net/ -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA "Enterprise solutions through open source." Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
