The Blackout

2003-08-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
I just posted a bunch of links to photoblogs & slideshows of the
blackout on my own blog if anyone is interested:
http://zarq.livejournal.com

Jon
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Re: This Tiger Has No Teeth

2003-08-16 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- "G. D. Akin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This Tiger Has No Teeth
> This is Clancy's least enjoyable novel.  IMO, of
> course

Thanks for the heads up.  I thought _Red Rabbit_ was a
bit of a bore, too, so if this is even worse, perhaps
I shall avoid it entirely.

=
Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Freedom is not free"
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com

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This Tiger Has No Teeth

2003-08-16 Thread G. D. Akin
This Tiger Has No Teeth

I just finished reading Tom Clancy's latest "real" (not "Op Center," etc,
collaborations) novel, "The Teeth of the Tiger."  I have to admit I'm a
Clancy fan.  I read "The Hunt for Red October" on a red-eye from DC to Las
Vegas right after the book came out in paperback.  I wanted to sleep on that
flight, but the book wouldn't let me.  Over the years, I've looked forward
to his books and, for the most part, haven't been disappointed, until now.

"The Teeth of the Tiger" is a slow, ponderous story that takes forever to
get to any real action, which is over as quickly as it arrives and brushed
under the rug.  Without it being too much of a spoiler, I'll say that after
the inevitable terrorist attack, the story goes into a revenge mode of
illegal killings (murders) by the good guys.   They justify their actions
pretty much by saying "some people need killing."

The main characters are related to former president Jack Ryan, who is
referred to in the book as "Dad" and "Uncle Jack."  These characters spend
more time on three-mile runs in Virginia, and then driving a Ferrari around
Europe talking about the good food they're missing than actually
"operating."

I'll say again, the story is slow and ponderous, perhaps in an attempt to
build suspense, but, instead, it builds boredom.  The plot is contrived and
the conclusion, while screaming loudly and clearly "sequel", is empty and
unsatisfying.

This is Clancy's least enjoyable novel.  IMO, of course





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B5 question

2003-08-16 Thread G. D. Akin
Well, I've been through season two of B5 and am thoroughly hooked.  My
friend just got the season 3 DVD set is will lend them to me later this
week.

The other day I was looking throught the rather meager selection of SF books
at the Army and Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) at Yongsan Army Garrison
in Seoul.  To my surprise, "To Dream in the City of Sorrows" by Kathryn M.
Drennan was on the shelf.  I remember someone mentioning this was a book to
find out what happened to Sinclair after he left B5.  Naturally, I picked it
up.

My question is this:  should I read it now or wait until after I have
watched season 3 or does it matter?

George A



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Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-16 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:31 PM 8/16/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 05:30:44PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

> Which is one point in favor of a firearm for home defense: it takes
> less training to learn to fire it than it does to learn to use a
> throwing knife,
I consider that a point against. If I have a weapon that requires skill,
if it gets into someone else's hand, especially an attacker, then it
probably isn't as effective against me.


I agree.  OTOH, if you are an 80-year-old woman with arthritis who has to 
shuffle around with a walker, you probably don't have the dexterity or 
strength to use a throwing knife, sword, or quarterstaff, and on Social 
Security you can't afford air conditioning so you have keep the windows 
open or literally die of the heat inside your closed house, you want 
something handy and easy to use in case some @#$%*&!! decides to take 
advantage of the open windows and come in to steal what little you have 
and/or assault you.

In short, there is no single answer to home/personal defense which is both 
safe and effective in all situations . . .



-- Ronn!  :)

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Re: Elevators and Death - My day at work

2003-08-16 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: "William T Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: Elevators and Death - My day at work


>
> On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 12:40  am, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> > When the elevator door opened, the elevator had not leveled correctly
> > and
> > was a couple of feet too high. The resident tried to jump up onto the
> > elevator platform, but slipped with the upper portion of his body on
> > the
> > elevator floor.
> >
> > The elevator doors *tried* to close on him, and the elevator started
> > to rise
> > as he struggled to get out.
> > The resident had just enough time to scream before he was decapitated.
> >
> > His body fell into the elevator pit in the basement, so wrapped and
> > tangled
> > in cables that it had to be cut into pieces to be removed.
> >
> > Meanwhile his head rode the elevator up to the fifth floor where it
> > greeted
> > a group of people waiting to get on the elevator on that floor.
>
> How old are these elevators? How many systems had to fail for that to
> happen?

These are original building equipment, so they are 40 or so years old.
Not too bad by elevator standards.

The system that detects objects blocking the door may have failed.
The system that prevents the elevator from moving when the doors are open
definitely failed. This is what killed the man.
The floor leveler system obviously failed.

xponent
Pretty Messed Up Maru
rob


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Fastest Qheuen Alive rewrite--longer, new ending.

2003-08-16 Thread Medievalbk
Added characters, hopefully better logic, and now with a date and made up 
localation.

I don't know if I've gotten the Ur lisp right. I don't have my copies marked 
for Ur, only Hoon.

Comment on this version--not the first draft.

---

The human's old story about the race between the tortoise and the hare was 
never very popular with the other sept of Jijo. In fact it was never really 
understood. Some 'wolfling' concepts did not translate well into the uplifted 
civilization of the Five Galaxies. This was true even with those jijoian races had 
abandoned almost all of the befefits of that civilization.

  A hare that took the time to sleep during a contest had too much personal 
hubris to be able to be a representative of one's race. Such an er would have 
been disqualified by its own kin, and a replacement would have been found. 
Someone with a better sense of duty to er's clan.

"On Jijo, the hare is a g'Kek and the tortoise is a traeki or a qheuen. A 
g'Kek will always beat a qheuen in a race."

So stated the g'Kek Vebbin to the qheuen Face Maker. Repeatedly.

"Hoon are stronger, Traeki are stinkier, and g'Kek are faster then the 
Qheuen," Vebbin would always state. Then whenever she remembered to be polite, she 
added "But no one can sculpt like a qheuen."

It had only been forty seven years since the creation of the Great Peace. An 
event that was not so long ago that old feelings could not once again 
resurface for even the slightest of reasons. Everyone was trying to be polite to 
everyone else.  The other races in the village were being polite to to the recently 
transplanted g'Kek families. They all knew of the economic advantage they'd 
aquired by now having a local source of quality first rate stitched sails and 
knotted fine mesh nets. No more waiting for a shipment to be exported from 
somewhere far to the north. And to the south was Wuphon, where they could now be 
the exporter for finished sails and nets.

As for the rest, basically the Hoon specialized in their sailing, the Qheuen 
specialized in ship construction and fish farming, the single human family 
specialized in not being specialized, and the lone traeki tried to keep everyone 
else healthy.

In praising Qheuen carving, Face Maker was also always praised.

Face Marker had a particular, well noted talent for carving and sculpting 
wood. Even among the Qheuen. No other qheuen had ever gotten such a unique name. 
Then again, no other qheuen had ever looked up while still in the infant's pen 
to see a human face in the observation port, and then proceed to accurately 
carve that face into the wooden floor.

It was only ment to be taken as an inalterable matter of fact, diversity as 
it is, or the luck of the roll of Ifni's dice, whenever Vebbin said what she 
said, that, "No qheuen could ever beat a g'Kek in a race."

But that matter of fact was probably stated a bit too often.

Face Maker became fixated on the idea of proving that statement false. Not 
always, of course. Just once would be enough. He'd seen Phwed, the adult male 
human-for-hire of the village do logic charts in the sand. Even a flyspeck's 
worth of intersection with a circle means that a statement true to almost all of 
the circle can no longer be made for the entire circle.

So, how to do it?

Not underwater. That wouldn't be fair. It'd have to be on neutral ground. Or 
even on terrain that would normally favor a g'Kek.

Face Maker confided with Phwed and told him his dream. One of Phwed's 
unspecialized specialities was in being neutral to all, and tattletale to none.

"You know I always take the more cautious route," Phwed said with a wink. "I 
took my name from one of the old human books of cartoon art, but changed it a 
bit by adding an extra letter."

"Why so?" Face Maker asked, fully aware that in doing so he was only being a 
straight man.

"Two hundred and fifty years is a long time in Earthclan terms. One never 
knows how the copyright laws might have changed."

Face Maker did his best to vent a traeki fart as laughter. "That is 
_definitely_ being cautious."

"As to your problem, solve it quickly, or give up on the idea," his human 
friend concluded. "If you don't, you'll soon have your brain running in circles."

*   *   *   *

The Qheuen are not the sept best known for having abstract thoughts. But by 
and far they are the race best known for both having and holding abstract 
visualizations. When the eye is on top and can't see what the mouth on the 
underside is doing, there's really no other way for the brain to develop. Coordination 
exists in having the mind be able to remember an item three dimensionally by 
both visual and tactile sensations, and then to transfer that image from one 
medium to the other.

Face Maker started to visualize a qheuen and a g'Kek at the same time. Then 
he made the revolutionary breakthrough by moving about various parts.

Although his human friend didn't know it, Phwed had provided the solution. 
Face 

Re: Elevators and Death - My day at work

2003-08-16 Thread William T Goodall
On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 12:40  am, Robert Seeberger wrote:

When the elevator door opened, the elevator had not leveled correctly 
and
was a couple of feet too high. The resident tried to jump up onto the
elevator platform, but slipped with the upper portion of his body on 
the
elevator floor.

The elevator doors *tried* to close on him, and the elevator started 
to rise
as he struggled to get out.
The resident had just enough time to scream before he was decapitated.

His body fell into the elevator pit in the basement, so wrapped and 
tangled
in cables that it had to be cut into pieces to be removed.

Meanwhile his head rode the elevator up to the fifth floor where it 
greeted
a group of people waiting to get on the elevator on that floor.
How old are these elevators? How many systems had to fail for that to 
happen?

--
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tried it.
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Elevators and Death - My day at work

2003-08-16 Thread Robert Seeberger
My day at work was more interesting than I desired.
I really didn't want to work in the first place, I have my son this weekend
and wanted to spend time with him.
But duty calls so..

Nothing went right from the getgo.
I woke up late.
I arrived at work barely on time, but everyone else was about an hour late.
We couldn't locate the key to the snorkel lift I was to use.
My boss hadn't ordered all the lamps we needed.
The safety harness I needed was missing. (Worked without it anyway - not a
good idea)
Outriders from Hurricane Erika were on their way.
But the heat was high 90s and the humidity stifling and I was out in the
direct sun.
And we started working 2 hours later than we should have.

This isn't the way things were planned.

About an hour after we started working, the first firetrucks arrived.
I didn't think much of it, we have false alarms often enough, and its not
something one gets excited about.

Then the police cars arrived, several of them. Jose, who was working with me
today, walked around the corner to investigate. This looked to be something
different.

While Jose was gone, the first news crews arrived, and I started feeling a
little paranoia. I could just imagine being seen on television, without any
safety equipment, by someone who works at my shop.
So, I parked the lift and set off to find Jose.

Jose shows up a minute or so later and tells me that someone had been killed
in an elevator.
So we went back inside and met our boss on his way to the death scene.
Hospital security drafted us to get some barricade tape and block the
elevator doors at each floor that this particular pair of elevators stopped
on.

Along the way we managed to pick up the story.

This resident was waiting for an elevator on the second floor, planning to
go up higher in the building. There were purportedly 2 others waiting with
him, an unnamed woman (who was taken to the emergency department due to
shock) and a doctor( who disappeared immediately, AFAIK they haven't located
him yet).
When the elevator door opened, the elevator had not leveled correctly and
was a couple of feet too high. The resident tried to jump up onto the
elevator platform, but slipped with the upper portion of his body on the
elevator floor.

The elevator doors *tried* to close on him, and the elevator started to rise
as he struggled to get out.
The resident had just enough time to scream before he was decapitated.

His body fell into the elevator pit in the basement, so wrapped and tangled
in cables that it had to be cut into pieces to be removed.

Meanwhile his head rode the elevator up to the fifth floor where it greeted
a group of people waiting to get on the elevator on that floor.

It was very painful to see this residents co-workers, visibly upset, very
distraught. I know some of these people quite well, I speak with them all
the time. I probably even know this resident by sight, though his name
doesn't ring a bell.
He was 35 years old. Either Indian or Pakistani.
That's just too young to die for want of an elevator.

I know the elevator guys pretty well. They are going to have a lot of
fingers pointed at them. And they had been working on this particular
elevator all of last week.

Everytime a baby is born in the women's building next door, the PA system
chimes a phrase of "Happy Birthday To You". And there were a lot of babies
born today apparently. It seemed morbidly ironic.

And my day did not get any worse. But in retrospect it wasn't as bad as it
could have been. None of the elevators in this particular building (there
are 10) actually work exactly right *all* the time. And I am on these
elevators constantly. That's likely on a lot of minds at the hospital now.

xponent
Down Day Maru
rob


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Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 05:30:44PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

> Which is one point in favor of a firearm for home defense: it takes   
> less training to learn to fire it than it does to learn to use a  
> throwing knife,   

I consider that a point against. If I have a weapon that requires skill,
if it gets into someone else's hand, especially an attacker, then it
probably isn't as effective against me.



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Re: Scarry - United let's anyone past security.

2003-08-16 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:06 AM 8/16/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
The Fool wrote:

> The photo-ID requirement is presented as a security measure, but business
> is the real reason. Airlines didn't resist it, even though they resisted
> every other security measure of the past few decades, because it solved a
> business problem: the reselling of nonrefundable tickets. Such tickets
> used to be advertised regularly in newspaper classifieds. An ad might
> read: "Round trip, Boston to Chicago, 11/22-11/30, female, $50." Since
> the airlines didn't check IDs and could observe gender, any female could
> buy the ticket and fly the route. Now that won't work. Under the guise of
> helping prevent terrorism, the airlines solved a business problem of
> their own and passed the blame for the solution on to FAA security
> requirements.
>
> But the system fails. I can fly on your ticket. You can fly on my ticket.
> We don't even have to be the same gender.
Heck, before, if the ticket had been bought with a name appropriate to
*either* gender, it wouldn't have been a problem!  :)  (Lynn, Leslie,
Kelly, etc. -- I've met people of all those names in each gender.)


. . ., Terry, Kim, Alma, . . . In fact, "Shirley" was originally a man's 
name, and I know of at least one man with that first name, though for some 
reason he goes by the initial "S." and his middle name.

A Boy Named Sue Is Probably Destined To Become A Lawyer Maru

-- Ronn!  :)

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Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-16 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:04 AM 8/16/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:58:17PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
>
> > The only weapons we keep with that sort of accessibility right now
> > are swords.  And me cornered in my own house with a sword is probably
> > *extremely* dangerous to whomever is cornering me.
>
> Do you think your son could expose the blade on the sword?
Not at this time under normal circumstances.

I don't keep it next to the bed most of the time, but it's in a place I
could get to in under 10 seconds, out of his reach.  If I were asleep in
bed, the dogs would alert me to the presence of an intruder in enough
time for me to get to it.  (Unless they were out in the yard for
skunk-related reasons, which may be the case tonight, depending on how
well the cleanup goes today and if the skunk has the sense to get the
@#$% out of our yard before they *kill* it.)
The last time I had it right next to the bed, he was not sufficiently
mobile to get to it or do anything if he *did* get to it.
(Speaking of him as a small baby and weapons, have I mentioned the photo
of him next to an unsharpened battleaxe?  It's really cute, and one of
my friends has a framed copy of it on display in her apartment)
> How about a quarterstaff (I think Aikido experts call it a "Bo") for
> home security?
That could work.

I like Andy's solution of throwing knives.  I'd have to train to use
them, though.


Which is one point in favor of a firearm for home defense:  it takes less 
training to learn to fire it than it does to learn to use a throwing knife, 
and it does not require as high a level of physical dexterity or strength 
to use.  Admittedly, those are also the reasons that make it more dangerous 
if a child finds it.



-- Ronn!  :)

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Depiction of Threat Outgrew Supporting Evidence

2003-08-16 Thread Doug Pensinger
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39500-2003Aug9.html

Exerpt:

"At issue was Iraq's efforts to buy high-strength aluminum tubes. 
The U.S. government said those tubes were for centrifuges to enrich 
uranium for a nuclear bomb. But the IAEA, the world's nuclear 
watchdog, had uncovered strong evidence that Iraq was using them for 
conventional rockets.

Joe described the rocket story as a transparent Iraqi lie. According 
to people familiar with his presentation, which circulated before 
and afterward among government and outside specialists, Joe said the 
specialized aluminum in the tubes was "overspecified," 
"inappropriate" and "excessively strong." No one, he told the 
inspectors, would waste the costly alloy on a rocket.

In fact, there was just such a rocket. According to knowledgeable 
U.S. and overseas sources, experts from U.S. national laboratories 
reported in December to the Energy Department and U.S. intelligence 
analysts that Iraq was manufacturing copies of the Italian-made 
Medusa 81. Not only the Medusa's alloy, but also its dimensions, to 
the fraction of a millimeter, matched the disputed aluminum tubes."

Doug

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Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Aug 2003 at 20:48, Jan Coffey wrote:

> > The problem is that guns are too accident prone. (and illegal over
> > here). I'm happy with keeping a throwing blade within reach when I
> > sleep.
> > 
> > And yes, I've had run-ins with skinhead thugs...but I've never,
> > admitedly, been on the worse end of the resulting injuries.
> >
> You say that guns are acident prone. But you don't have a gun do you?
> You havent had a gun around a lot, you don't know how they work or
> what features they have so that accidents don't happen do you?
> 
> Why not give a for example. How does this accident happen?

I've handled guns yes. When I've been in Israel. I'm a good shot.

And I can read rates of things like accidental shootings...

> If you have kids isn't every cabinet in your house kidproof? Don't you
> have every outlet covered?

Again, not a problem with a blade. It's perfectly possible to have a 
kidsafe holder for one which won't stop me using it quickly. (yes, 
I'm arround places with kids sometimes...)

And lemmie restate - if the UK had the US's gun laws, I WOULD be dead.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-16 Thread Dan Minette

- Original Message -
From: "Jan Coffey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Most Dangerous States



> You don't know me, or my friends, my experiences, or obviously my
sympathies
> to those who have endured this type of crulty and evil.

Its not that I suspected that you don't have sympathy for victims.  Its
that your apparent attitude that there are just a few criminal types from
the wrong side of the track who perpetrate this that feeds the shame of
victims.  People tend to hide problems in the family due to shame.  If it
is generally accepted that this happens even in good families, and the fact
that the victims have no responsibility, and that there is no family shame
associated with it, then victims are more likely to speak about the
problem.

But, if it is evidence that the victim comes from the wrong type of family,
then the victim feels shame for being part of a bad family.  (Shame is
different from guilt, BTW.  Speaking roughly, shame is feeling bad about
who you are; while guilt is feeling bad about what you've done.)



> I seem to have struck an emotional chord with you and I appologize if
that
> has made you angry at me, or hurt.

I appreciate your apology, but the problem is not so much that you struck
an emotional cord as that you repeated dangerous myths that I've seen
damage families for 20+ years.  Unfortunately, after dealing with sexual
abuse, one develops a radar for it.  I'll give one example.  A young friend
of my daughter was sexually abused by an uncle.  She would sit on his lap
and he'd rub against her.  It was subtle enough so he could do it in front
of people and only the two of them would know.

We have a feeling that something was amiss, but didn't say anything.
Finally, when Teri was discussing unacceptable behavior...her job with
Parents Annomous dealt with that kind of stuff and my roll as a Brownie
leader gave us "permission" to talk about safety issures for kids, the girl
said "well, execpt if its a family member, then its OK."

We got her premission to talk to her parents, who were very uptight about
it.  They didn't get help, because of the shame they all felt about this
type of thing happening in their family.  We lost contact when we moved,
but when we regained contact, we found out that the now teenage girl was
"boy crazy" and out of control.

Its well known that eating disorders, sexual disfunction, etc. are tied to
abuse.

> I do realize that there are many who are abused and attacked. I am not
> suggesting otherwise. I am, however, suggesting that the stats are scued
to
> make the situation (as far as male perpitrators) seem more widespread
than it
> is.

I understand that.  Unfortunately, this belief helps perpetuate the
problem.  I went to the web to look up sites, and in the hit or miss
fashion of the web, I found more information of studies of abuse of males.
Its at

 www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hppb/familyviolence/pdfs/invisib.pdf


The surveys are pretty straightforward in theory, but not necessarily in
practice.  Phone surveys tend to have the lowest number of reported cases,
annonomous surveys that people just fill in have the medium, and interviews
have the most.

One of the difficulties is that one needs to make reporting abuse safe for
the victim.  Given that, its easy to see why phone interviews are the
lowest.  Face to face interviews may tend to have a biased sample.  But, as
you see here, there are samplings that appear to be fairly random...like
college students.



> Not that it is not a problem mind you.
>
> There is also a distinct lack of data in these numbers about what part of
> society the perpitrators come from.

One of the myths is that the perps. come from a distinct criminal element
or from poor families.  Reported cases to CPS of abuse are biased towards
lower income groups, mostly because they have fewer resources to hide the
problem.  Yet, when surveys are done for past histories, the same bias
towards lower income groups is not found.

I'd argue that its akin to the fact that illegal drug use cuts across all
ecconomic, race, and social boundaries, but people serving sentences tend
to be black and Hispanic and tend to be lower income.  I know that drug use
is rampant among the kids in the upper middle class community I live in,
but their families can keep them out of jail if they do get caught.

As an interesting aside, even when one logically expects ecconomic status
to play a major role in decision making, the evidence for that does not
exist.  My wife did her master's thesis on the relationship between
ecconomic status and battered wives returning to their abuser.  She had a
fair sample size, 190, and fully expected to see a relationship.  She
didn't.



> Besides, if the numbers are so greate, wouldn't it seem wise for possible
> victems to carry a leathal weapon?

The problem is that it would usually require a 5 year old or a 10 year old
or a 15 year 

Re: Scarry - United let's anyone past security.

2003-08-16 Thread William T Goodall
On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 04:27  pm, Erik Reuter wrote:

On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 10:06:33AM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:

*either* gender, it wouldn't have been a problem! :) (Lynn, Leslie,
Kelly, etc. -- I've met people of all those names in each gender.)
You've met a male who spells his name "Lynn"? I know a male Len, never 
a
male Lynn. I concur with the other two.
In the UK Leslie is the masculine form and Lesley is the feminine form. 
And Cameron is *only* a male name here...

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Re: Scarry - United let's anyone past security.

2003-08-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 10:06:33AM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
> 
> > *either* gender, it wouldn't have been a problem! :) (Lynn, Leslie,
> > Kelly, etc. -- I've met people of all those names in each gender.)
> 
> You've met a male who spells his name "Lynn"? I know a male Len, never a
> male Lynn. I concur with the other two.

I've met one with the middle name of Lynn, anyway, and I know that a
couple of men associated with the NFL have the first name "Lynn".  Lynn
Scott plays for the Dallas Cowboys, for example.

It's interesting how, over time, some names originally meant as boys'
names end up being more girls' names.   Leslie and Kelly are two such
names.  Not sure about Lynn.  "Madison" which seems to be popular for
girls these days has "son" at the end; I don't remember the definition I
found in a name book, but it was "son of X" for some X.  I think Taylor
used to be pretty much just a boy's name, but I know one little girl
named Taylor and have heard mothers in stores addressing a daughter as
"Taylor".  (I don't care for any of the names I've listed above as names
for my own offspring, so if there's a pool I don't know about for names,
those can be pulled right out of the running.  :)  )

Julia

p.s. Kinda back to the subject line:  We'll be needing to travel before
the babies are old enough to be left for even a couple of days, so we'll
ALL travel together, and I called Southwest (which is probably what
we'll end up flying) to ask about ID for young children.  Not necessary
if the accompanying parents have ID, which would be required.  (They
*do* want proof of age if you're trying to fly with a child under 2 as a
"lap baby", though.  Which I would not want to do -- we'll need car
seats at the destination and it's easier to just *use* them on the plane
than to try to check them, and who wants to hold an infant for a few
hours straight in a cramped space like that anyway?  I just hope that
all my offspring spend more of the flight time sleeping than not)
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Re: Scarry - United let's anyone past security.

2003-08-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 10:06:33AM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:

> *either* gender, it wouldn't have been a problem! :) (Lynn, Leslie,
> Kelly, etc. -- I've met people of all those names in each gender.)

You've met a male who spells his name "Lynn"? I know a male Len, never a
male Lynn. I concur with the other two.


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Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 10:04:28AM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:

> Erik Reuter wrote:
>
> > How about a quarterstaff (I think Aikido experts call it a "Bo") for
> > home security?
>
> That could work.

That was actually a non-rhetorical question, hopefully for someone who
has trained with a staff or a Bo. I assume you would want a slightly
shorter staff for indoor use, say 4 or 5 feet. But I wonder if the
close quarters would hamper its use. I've often thought that if I ever
learn a weapon, I would like for it to be the staff. Most injuries I
would inflict with it would be non-lethal, it is no more dangerous in
untrained hands than a baseball bat, and I like the idea of the extended
reach if the attacker has a (non-throwing) knife. Of course, it would
not be much use against an attacker with a gun, but even if I had a gun
I think I'd not want to get into a shootout with an attacker with a gun
-- in that case I'd either run or try to act submissive and weird until
a distraction allowed me to run.


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Re: Scarry - United let's anyone past security.

2003-08-16 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote:

> The photo-ID requirement is presented as a security measure, but business
> is the real reason. Airlines didn't resist it, even though they resisted
> every other security measure of the past few decades, because it solved a
> business problem: the reselling of nonrefundable tickets. Such tickets
> used to be advertised regularly in newspaper classifieds. An ad might
> read: "Round trip, Boston to Chicago, 11/22-11/30, female, $50." Since
> the airlines didn't check IDs and could observe gender, any female could
> buy the ticket and fly the route. Now that won't work. Under the guise of
> helping prevent terrorism, the airlines solved a business problem of
> their own and passed the blame for the solution on to FAA security
> requirements.
> 
> But the system fails. I can fly on your ticket. You can fly on my ticket.
> We don't even have to be the same gender.

Heck, before, if the ticket had been bought with a name appropriate to
*either* gender, it wouldn't have been a problem!  :)  (Lynn, Leslie,
Kelly, etc. -- I've met people of all those names in each gender.)

Julia
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Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:58:17PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
> 
> > The only weapons we keep with that sort of accessibility right now
> > are swords.  And me cornered in my own house with a sword is probably
> > *extremely* dangerous to whomever is cornering me.
> 
> Do you think your son could expose the blade on the sword?

Not at this time under normal circumstances.

I don't keep it next to the bed most of the time, but it's in a place I
could get to in under 10 seconds, out of his reach.  If I were asleep in
bed, the dogs would alert me to the presence of an intruder in enough
time for me to get to it.  (Unless they were out in the yard for
skunk-related reasons, which may be the case tonight, depending on how
well the cleanup goes today and if the skunk has the sense to get the
@#$% out of our yard before they *kill* it.)

The last time I had it right next to the bed, he was not sufficiently
mobile to get to it or do anything if he *did* get to it.

(Speaking of him as a small baby and weapons, have I mentioned the photo
of him next to an unsharpened battleaxe?  It's really cute, and one of
my friends has a framed copy of it on display in her apartment)
 
> How about a quarterstaff (I think Aikido experts call it a "Bo") for
> home security?

That could work.

I like Andy's solution of throwing knives.  I'd have to train to use
them, though.

Julia
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Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:58:17PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:

> The only weapons we keep with that sort of accessibility right now
> are swords.  And me cornered in my own house with a sword is probably
> *extremely* dangerous to whomever is cornering me.

Do you think your son could expose the blade on the sword?

How about a quarterstaff (I think Aikido experts call it a "Bo") for
home security?


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Re: Scarry - United let's anyone past security.

2003-08-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Aug 2003 at 1:05, The Fool wrote:

> This is a classic example of a security failure because of an
> interaction between two different systems. There's a system that
> prints out boarding passes in the name of the person who is in the
> computer. There's another system that compares the name on the
> boarding pass to the name on the photo ID. But there's no system to
> make sure that the name on the photo ID matches the name in the
> computer. 

There is if you fly El-Al.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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How to Rig an Election in the United States

2003-08-16 Thread The Fool
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml

How to Rig an Election in the United States
Sludge Report #154 – Bigger Than Watergate!
By C.D. Sludge

Tuesday 08 July 2003

  
A Diebold touchscreen voting machine
Makers of the walk right in, sit right down, replace ballot tallies with
your own GEMS vote counting program. 

See Below the Companion Article For Detail And Screenshots Of An Election
Hack…
Inside A U.S. Election Vote Counting Program

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The story you are about to read is in this writer's view the biggest
political scandal in American history, if not global history. And it is
being broken today here in New Zealand. 

This story cuts to the bone the machinery of democracy in America today.
Democracy is the only protection we have against despotic and arbitrary
government, and this story is deeply disturbing. 

Imagine if you will that you are a political interest group that wishes
to control forevermore the levers of power. Imagine further that you know
you are likely to implement a highly unpopular political agenda, and you
do not wish to be removed by a ballot driven backlash. 

One way to accomplish this outcome would be to adopt the Mugabe
(Zimbabwe) or Hun Sen (Cambodia) approach. You agree to hold elections,
but simultaneously arrest, imprison and beat your opponents and their
supporters. You stuff ballot boxes, disenfranchise voters who are
unlikely to vote for you, distort electoral boundaries and provide
insufficient polling stations in areas full of opposition supporters. 

However as so many despots have discovered, eventually such techniques
always fail – often violently. Hence, if you are a truly ambitious
political dynasty you have to be a bit more subtle about your methods. 

Imagine then if it were possible to somehow subvert the voting process
itself in such a way that you could steal elections without anybody
knowing. 

Imagine for example if you could: 

secure control of the companies that make the voting machines and vote
counting software;


centralise vote counting systems, and politicise their supervision;


legislate for the adoption of such systems throughout your domain, and
provide large amounts of money for the purchase of these systems;


establish systems of vote counting that effectively prevent anybody on
the ground in the election – at a booth or precinct level - from seeing
what is happening at a micro-level;


get all the major media to sign up to a single exit-polling system that
you also control – removing the risk of exit-polling showing up your
shenanigans.

And imagine further that you install a backdoor, or numerous backdoors,
in the vote counting systems you have built that enable you to manipulate
the tabulation of results in real time as they are coming in. 

Such a system would enable you to intervene in precisely the minimum
number of races necessary to ensure that you won a majority on election
night. On the basis of polling you could pick your marginal seats and
thus keep your tweaking to a bare minimum. 

Such a system would enable you to minimise the risks of discovery of your
activities. 

Such a system would enable you to target and remove individual political
opponents who were too successful, too popular or too inquisitive. 

And most importantly of all, such a system would enable you to accomplish
all the above without the public being in the least aware of what you
were doing. When confronted with the awfulness of your programme they
would be forced to concede that at least it is the result of a democratic
process. 

How To Rig An Election In The United States 

So how would such a system actually work? 

Well one way to run such a corrupt electoral system might look like this:


Each voting precinct (or booth) could be fitted with electronic voting
systems, optical scanning systems, punch card voting systems or the more
modern touchscreen electronic voting machines; 


At the close of play each day the booth/precinct supervisor could be
under instructions to compile an electronic record of the votes cast in
their booth; 


They might print out a report that contains only the details of the total
votes count for that precinct/booth, and then file via modem the full
electronic record of votes through to the County supervisor; 


The County Supervisor could be equipped with a special piece of software
and a bank of modems that enables all these results to be received and
tabulated in the internals of the computer; 


The County Supervisors themselves could be assured that their system was
bullet proof, certified and contained tamper-protection mechanisms par
excellence; 


The Country Supervisor could be given a range of tools for looking at the
data within this software, but nothing to enable them to directly
manipulate the results; 


But unbeknownst to the County Supervisor the software could actually
create three separate records of the voting data; 


Meanwhile - also unbeknownst to the County Supervisor - these three
tables of vot