Re: Head-butts (was: Half-Blood Prince)

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 06:51 PM Tuesday 7/19/2005, Deborah Harrell wrote:

> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> And now I'm only 38 pages from the end of the other
> book, but have to
> stop and admit that naptime is over, and be overrun
> with little ones for
> the next few hours.  (It's not the overrunning
> that's a problem so much
> as all the head-butts the 22-month-olds have gotten
> into the habit of inflicting)

Head-butts from toddlers are certainly more
"oof!"-able than those from cats and kittens, but when
a half-ton of equine *thonks* you one, prepare to kiss
some dirt!  :D

Debbi
who is currently correcting that particular
cute-but-bad habit in Cezanne




Admittedly head-butting is a cuter habit that the one some people have of 
being butt-heads . . .



Non-Commutative Operators Maru


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Re: Uplift locations and dates. Hey, Alberto?

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 11:16 PM Tuesday 7/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 7/19/2005 8:47:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>  But, and this is the Gawds honest truth, we know more about the dating
than
> he does.
>
>  Vilyehm

/boggles.

Dr. Brin is not a bible thumper. But not in the curses by William T.  Goodall
sense of the word.

>From Sundiver to Startide Rising to Uplift War to the Uplift Storm 
trilogy,

when Brin writes something new, he does not have a card file, computer file,
or  'bible' of previously stated facts.

Heck, the most famous twist/mistake is in Heaven's Reach where the alien  has
two arms in one chapter and four arms in a later chapter.



He just received some information between the two chapters.  As they say, 
fore-warned is four-armed . . .



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Apple Drooling over Remote Attestation from Intel

[KZK]

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1828859,00.asp

While the TNC specification is still very young (Version 1.0), it is 
also the first-ever protocol to attempt to enforce network access on a 
per-client or per-network basis, which makes it a spec worth exploring 
if you're doing enterprise wireless development. Or trying to get your 
machines accepted by those who will use these kinds of networks.


TNC uses a number of ways to authenticate the supplicant trying to join 
the network, one of which is the hardware Trusted Computing Module 
bolted on to TCG-compliant computers. Now, here's where the trail starts 
to heat up. The TCM won't be available on non-Intel machines any time 
soon, since it uses Intel silicon to implement the functions needed. If 
you want to play in a TNC-defined network, you need to be on Intel 
hardware (at least for the near term).


-
Remember where you are when you lose the right to read.
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RE: Those who do not critique his theory, are doomed to repeat it......

[Horn, John]

Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Darwin was not really spirtual. He kept mum on his religous
> beliefs in part out of respect for his wife (some think he
> delayed publication of Origin in part to avoid causing his
> wife difficulty). He was a public agnostic and  likely an atheist.
I'd like to point out that being an atheist and being spiritual are
not mutually exclusive.  I know some people who I would call deeply
spiritual but are adamantly atheists.  In fact, I'm married to one.
- jmh
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Not unexpected news

[Ronn!Blankenship]

About 3-1/2 hours ago:

<>


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Re: Apple Drooling over Remote Attestation from Intel

[William T Goodall]

On 20 Jul 2005, at 8:14 am, KZK wrote:


http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1828859,00.asp

While the TNC specification is still very young (Version 1.0), it  
is also the first-ever protocol to attempt to enforce network  
access on a per-client or per-network basis, which makes it a spec  
worth exploring if you're doing enterprise wireless development. Or  
trying to get your machines accepted by those who will use these  
kinds of networks.


TNC uses a number of ways to authenticate the supplicant trying to  
join the network, one of which is the hardware Trusted Computing  
Module bolted on to TCG-compliant computers. Now, here's where the  
trail starts to heat up. The TCM won't be available on non-Intel  
machines any time soon, since it uses Intel silicon to implement  
the functions needed. If you want to play in a TNC-defined network,  
you need to be on Intel hardware (at least for the near term).




Given that both IBM and AMD are members of the TCG (which produced  
the TCM) this story seems very very unlikely in a tinfoil hat kind of  
way.


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Harry Potter and Sleep Deprivation

[Julia Thompson]

I finally finished last night.  About half an hour after I really, 
really should have turned out the light.  :)  (Still haven't recovered 
from the 3AM bedtime I gave myself Friday night by going to the release 
party and then going grocery shopping)


I've been skipping the posts adveritising spoilers, and now I'm going 
back over that.  What with one thing and another, it'll take me awhile 
to get caught up on that (maybe sometime tomorrow?), and probably 
another day or two after that before I can add much to the discussion. 
(See how long it took me to respond about the Rangers' expected 
performance after the All-Star break)


But I am now relieved of the problem of not wanting to deal with 
moderated posts about HP6.  :)  And I enjoyed the book.  And what I 
really, really enjoyed about the whole experience so far is that I'm 
connected with a lot of other people around the world in having gotten 
this book as soon as possible and read it and knowing that I shared an 
experience with people on other continents.  The fact that all this 
excitement is over a *book* is wonderful, IMO.


I expect to be OK in the sleep department by the end of the weekend, 
unless my father-in-law dies before then.  In that case, there will be a 
quick post informing everyone and then extremely spotty participation 
from me for a few days, as I will be up to my ears in stuff.  (My 
expectation is that my father-in-law will die of his cancer before the 
end of the month.  Dan will have to leave for a couple of days, and I'll 
have to prepare the house for houseguests, as the burial will be near 
here after whatever memorial services happen where he lives, and all 
that plus 3 young children doesn't make for very much 'net time.)


Julia
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Weekly Chat Reminder

[William T Goodall]

As Steve said,

"The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six
years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set
up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established
a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat
technologies, and even casts of regulars over the years, but
the chat goes on... and we want more recruits!

Whether you're an active poster or a lurker, whether you've
been a member of the list from the beginning or just joined
today, we would really like for you to join us. We have less
politics, more Uplift talk, and more light-hearted discussion.
We're non-fattening and 100% environmentally friendly...
-(_() Though sometimes marshmallows do get thrown.

The Weekly Brin-L chat is scheduled for Wednesday 3 PM
Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time.
There's usually somebody there to talk to for at least eight
hours after the start time.

If you want to attend, it's really easy now. All you have to
do is send your web browser to:

  http://wtgab.demon.co.uk/~brinl/mud/

..And you can connect directly from William's new web
interface!

My instruction page tells you how to log on, and how to talk
when you get in:

  http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html

It also gives a list of commands to use when you're in there.
In addition, it tells you how to connect through a MUD client,
which is more complicated to set up initially, but easier and
more reliable than the web interface once you do get it set up."

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Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

[Julia Thompson]

Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "Maru Dubshinki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

Spoiler Space Returned













And I felt very annoyed when the Prince
turned out to be Snape rather than Voldemort. I feel a little cheated
at such dishonesty- one expected the Prince to be actually a prince,
no?



I knew from the very start that Voldermort was not the Prince.  There was a
big clue before the book came out.  (Rowling said he wasn't.) :-)

Dan M.


I missed that statement from her.  :)  I, like Maru, thought it was 
Voldemort.  But I like being surprised by a book, so that was OK.


Very pissed at Snape, but I need to go back over some things that may 
help explain to me *why* he did what he did.


Julia

p.s. the best thing about Snape, as far as I'm concerned, is the actor 
who's played him in the movies -- now I'm hoping Rowling can convince me 
there are better things about him (although that particular actor is 
very hard to top, in my book)

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Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

[Warren Ockrassa]

On Jul 19, 2005, at 7:34 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:



[Yep, spoilers]













Warren Ockrassa wrote:

Jim Sharkey wrote:

S
P
O
I
L
E
R

S
P
A
C
E

Snape is revealed.
Is he?  I think Ms. Rowling *still* left enough wiggle room for 
>>Severus not to be the bad guy.  Yes, he did kill Dumbledore, but

there are signs both in that scene and in Harry's pursuit of him
that suggest there's more to it than "Snape is on the Dark Side."



This isn't a Lucasian world where a single act of good can redeem a
murder (a la Vader at the end of RotJ). And Snape, unlike Draco,
*chose* to take on the task should Malfoy prove unable. He elected
to take the oath; he wasn't under anyone's compulsion.  I don't
think there's any way to recover from that.


This is true.  However, I think it's clear that Snape may have been 
told to do whatever it takes to stay in Voldemort's inner circle.  
*And* Dumbledore's pleading with Snape could just as easily have been 
him pleading for Snape to do what was necessary to save Malfoy and his 
family.  Not to mention that it was just as possible that even Snape 
couldn't take on four Death Eaters, meaning if he tried to save Albus 
all that would have happened was that everyone (including Dumbledore) 
would have died pointlessly.


I see your point, and it'll be interesting to see if it resolves that 
way or not. It could break either direction, really.


Finally, his "parting shot" to Harry: "Blocked again and again and 
again, Potter, until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind 
closed."  Sounds like good advice to me.  And while Voldemort is 
supposed to kill Harry, as Snape points out, why not stun him and 
bring him to the Dark Lord rather than let him go?  Voldy already 
proved he's not above having Harry served up on a platter in GoF.


Might have been a little too inconvenient to be dragging him along for 
his disapparition, perhaps, or just one of those things that bad guys 
do for plot convenience.


You've got an interesting outlook, and as I was thinking about it 
before I remembered Dumbledore's pleading tone as well and got to 
wondering what exactly it meant. Did he paralyze Harry to save him from 
being torched by the Death Eaters, or to stop him from interfering in 
something he knew had to be done?



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Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

[Warren Ockrassa]

(No spoilers)

On Jul 20, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:

p.s. the best thing about Snape, as far as I'm concerned, is the actor 
who's played him in the movies -- now I'm hoping Rowling can convince 
me there are better things about him (although that particular actor 
is very hard to top, in my book)


Alan Rickman. Yeah, he's got a real personality, doesn't he? He was 
also Marvin's voice in the dreadful movie version of _Hitchhiker_ -- 
and, IMO, the single asset the movie had -- and he was the chief bad 
guy in _Die Hard_, which I hadn't realized at all until seeing the 
movie again comparatively recently.



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Re: OT-ish: Web site hosting/building scripts?

[Warren Ockrassa]

On Jul 6, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Dave Land wrote:


Warren,

OK, you've probably seen these at GeoCities and Tripod and such -- 
basically I'm looking to find some CGI that allows a domain owner to 
set up Web pages, or rather open hosting to people who want Web 
pages, something that includes quotas, pretty strict user control (no 
bizarre scripts, etc.), and that might even require human 
intervention and approval before a site-setup password is allowed.


Anything like that out there? SourceForge doesn't seem to have 
*quite* what I'm after, and of course open-source is most desirable 
here. :)


What you're looking for is virtual web hosting software, but Googling 
those words is a way to find lots and lots of people who do what you 
want to do, for a living.


One place to start looking is 
http://webadminmodules.sourceforge.net/?page=ISP+Software. Webmin is a 
web-based front-end for *nix administration. Among the many categories 
of add-on modules for it is "ISP Software", including "Host4Net", 
which looks to be just what you need: "a complete web-hosting 
management solution dedicated to small and medium hosting companies." 
And it's free.


Hmm. That's not exactly what I was thinking of, I think.

Basically, say I've got a domain, domain.com. I want to set things up 
such that users can sign up for (say) a 5 MB quota mini Web site, which 
might be top-level hosted at users.domain.com, possibly with a home 
directory a la users.domain.com/username/ . Ideally when the user went 
there he could see his pages, and in order to add or modify content he 
might go to something like users.domain.com/username/content/ or some 
such, a passworded section that allowed the user to edit HTML live and 
upload things like images, all through a Web interface.


The idea would be to do *something* like what GeoCities does, really. 
Just a simple web account that lets low-volume users upload some stuff 
and say, in essence, "I'm here".


There must be CGIs that do such things; these sites already exist. I 
was just wondering if anyone in the GPL community had done it, or even 
what might be some promising Google terms. I've looked over a lot of 
sites that offer freebies (including one that has freeware online 
auction software!) but so far nada joy.


Thanks for the pointer, though! :)


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Re: OT-ish: Web site hosting/building scripts?

[Warren Ockrassa]

Huh. This seems to be fairly close, now that I tried a totally 
different search:





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Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

[Matt Grimaldi]

--


[Spoiler room]





.




.




.

























>> The look on Snapes' face is a clue I think.  His
>> reaction to being called a coward is another.  I
>> think it would be a wonderful twist if Snape, who
>> has now lost all honor, actually did it because
>> he promised Dumbledore that he wouldand because
>> it was necessary for Harry to succeed.

> That's an interesting suggestion. So Snape took the
> oath because he knew he had to, in order to be a
kind
> of fifth column in the Death Eaters, and he did it
> with Dumbledore's blessing? Hmm!

I'm thinking that he did have Dumbledore's blessing.
Looking at the death scene, it's very clear that
Dumbledore was trying to rescue Draco from having
blood on his hands.  Once the other death-eaters
showed up, he knew his life was ending; but he strove
to the very end to protect every one of the students
in his school.

Snape, on the other hand, was probably near panic,
watching whatever plans he was working on fall apart
around him.


My big question is about the object they retrieved.
Who is RAB, how many other horcruxes did he find,
how long ago, and did he destroy them?

Another angle is that maybe Harry really does have
the Horcrux, and has been duped by misinformation.







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Re: OT-ish: Web site hosting/building scripts?

[Dave Land]

On Jul 20, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:

Huh. This seems to be fairly close, now that I tried a totally  
different search:





I have the "Google Pagerank Status" extension installed in my Firefox
browser, which, in addition to showing the Pagerank for each page,
sometimes links to the Google directory page relative to the page being
viewed. For the page above, it linked to:

http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Perl/ 
WWW/Scripts/Content_Management/


or

http://tinyurl.com/abnsk

Which may point you to similar products that may or may not have been
"sold to another software company." Hope it helps.

Dave

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Re: Not unexpected news

[Maru Dubshinki]

On 7/20/05, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> About 3-1/2 hours ago:
> 
> <>
> 
> 
> --Ronn! :)


He's dead, Jim.


~Maru

/teh obvious
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Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

[Warren Ockrassa]

On Jul 20, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Matt Grimaldi wrote:




[Spoiler










space]


















I'm thinking that he did have Dumbledore's blessing.
Looking at the death scene, it's very clear that
Dumbledore was trying to rescue Draco from having
blood on his hands.


That's a damned astute observation. He was definitely delaying Draco, 
and I'd be very surprised if it were from *fear* that he was doing it. 
He was waiting for someone to show up, and when Snape finally does, 
it's almost like he's egging him on.



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Re: Uplift locations and dates. Hey, Alberto?

[Alberto Monteiro]

Trent Shipley wrote:
>
> Tymbrimi-Thennanin treaty??
>
IIRC [because my UW turned to dust as if it were a vampire],
Uthacalthing was seducing Kault for a Ty-The treaty, selling
the Garthlings even if they didn't exist.

The Ty-The treaty would precede any Earth-The treaty,
that could only be signed after the Thennanin fleet arrived
on Garth

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: Uplift locations and dates. Hey, Alberto?

[Alberto Monteiro]

Maru Dubshinki wrote:
>
> Why don't you guys just ask Brin about all these niggling lil'
> details? This is his list, and it's not like he's dead.
>
Because He usually replies: "I don't know, you are the experts
in those presky details" or something like that :-P

We are His Legions of Terror. We do the dirty job of polishing
the details.

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: Uplift locations and dates. Hey, Alberto?

[Julia Thompson]

Alberto Monteiro wrote:

Maru Dubshinki wrote:


Why don't you guys just ask Brin about all these niggling lil'
details? This is his list, and it's not like he's dead.



Because He usually replies: "I don't know, you are the experts
in those presky details" or something like that :-P

We are His Legions of Terror. We do the dirty job of polishing
the details.


I have this vision of marauders in leather armor (kind of like the 
pillagers in Capital One commercials, for those of you familiar with 
those) very carefully polishing large bronze decorative things 
Thank you for the image, Alberto.


Julia

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Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

[Gautam Mukunda]

--- Matt Grimaldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My big question is about the object they retrieved.
> Who is RAB, how many other horcruxes did he find,
> how long ago, and did he destroy them?
> 
> Another angle is that maybe Harry really does have
> the Horcrux, and has been duped by misinformation.

I think RAB has to be Regulus Black, Sirius's brother
who was killed by Voldemort.  The horcrux he took
would then be the locket that gets briefly mentioned
while they're cleaning out 5 Grimmauld Place in OotP. 
My guess is that this locket was stolen by
what's-his-name, the guy Harry gets upset with in this
book, and they'll have to find it and retrieve it in
book 7.

Now, my question is, is _Harry_ a horcrux?  That would
give Voldemort a Gryffindor-tied horcrux, which is
exactly what he wants.

Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

[Warren Ockrassa]

On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:




[Mo' space]






















Now, my question is, is _Harry_ a horcrux?  That would
give Voldemort a Gryffindor-tied horcrux, which is
exactly what he wants.


I was wondering that too. Maybe Moldy didn't really *want* to kill him 
when he was an infant. Maybe Harry ended up containing a piece of 
Moldy's "soul".


Heh, and you thought you had problems with *roaches*! ;)


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Is it just me?

[Warren Ockrassa]

Or is half the net dark in the US right now? I can't seem to get to 
CNN, the NYTimes, or, most disturbingly, Mr. Cranky or The Filthy 
Critic. How'm I supposed to get movie reviews I can trust … ?



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Re: Is it just me?

[Dave Land]

On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:43 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:

Or is half the net dark in the US right now? I can't seem to get to 
CNN, the NYTimes, or, most disturbingly, Mr. Cranky or The Filthy 
Critic. How'm I supposed to get movie reviews I can trust … ?


It's just fine from San Jose, CA.

Dave

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Re: Is it just me?

[Warren Ockrassa]

On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Dave Land wrote:


On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:43 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:

Or is half the net dark in the US right now? I can't seem to get to 
CNN, the NYTimes, or, most disturbingly, Mr. Cranky or The Filthy 
Critic. How'm I supposed to get movie reviews I can trust … ?


It's just fine from San Jose, CA.


So you know the way from San Jose?

Actually things seem to have come back, but for about an hour or so, 
nada.



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Re: Is it just me?

[Dave Land]

On Jul 20, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:


On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Dave Land wrote:


On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:43 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:

Or is half the net dark in the US right now? I can't seem to get to 
CNN, the NYTimes, or, most disturbingly, Mr. Cranky or The Filthy 
Critic. How'm I supposed to get movie reviews I can trust … ?


It's just fine from San Jose, CA.


So you know the way from San Jose?


From, to, around, through, and so forth. Been here about 16 years, so 
yeah,

you could say I know the area a bit.

Actually things seem to have come back, but for about an hour or so, 
nada.


I poked around a little and can't seem to find anything that indicates
that there were any major increases in packet loss over the past couple
of hours. In particular, http://www.internettrafficreport.com/ doesn't
show any problems in North America since a slight blip around lunch,
pacific time.

Dave
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