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Re: To my loyal fans

[Nick Arnett]

On 2/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Don't know Amen. I work with one of the world experts on ADD/ADHD BJ Casey
> (short for Betty Joe from the hills of North Carolina). She has been using
> DTI
> in combination with fMRI to study people with ADD. One of the most
> interesting
> things about her research is that there is modification of brain
> activation
> and aspects of DTI with both drugs and retraining


Interesting.  Amen is out here in California and gets himself in the media a
lot.

I'd be quite interested in what Ms. Casey has found.

As a matter of fact, I'm heading for the mountains of North Carolina myself
tomorrow morning... which means I'll be somewhat scarce around here for a
few days.

Nick



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Re: To my loyal fans

[Bemmzim]

In a message dated 2/17/2006 11:03:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Are you familiar with the brain imaging done by Dr. Daniel Amen on
> ADD/ADHD?  There seem to be varying opinions about its meaningfulness... but
> your images certainly reminded me of what he shows.
> 

Don't know Amen. I work with one of the world experts on ADD/ADHD BJ Casey 
(short for Betty Joe from the hills of North Carolina). She has been using DTI 
in combination with fMRI to study people with ADD. One of the most interesting 
things about her research is that there is modification of brain activation 
and aspects of DTI with both drugs and retraining



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Re: To my loyal fans

[Bemmzim]

In a message dated 2/17/2006 10:24:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Just watched the tape.  "Really cool stuff."  And now I have a face 
> to put with the e-mail voice . . .
> 
> 

Thanks - but didn't you know what Charlie Gibson before?
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Re: Um, does this make any sense?

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 03:44 PM Friday 2/17/2006, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

On 2/16/06, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.timecube.com/
>
> I'll explain where I found the link after a suitable number of people
> have expressed their bogglement.



What is this bogglement?  How can you not understand this page of
"subsmissive [sic] obscurantism?"  :-)

I think the thing on the page that scared me most is down at the bottom
where it says, "Next Page"...




This should scare you even more:  I actually went to the next 
page.  Which is about the same length as page 1, and is more of the 
same, though there are some diagrams at the bottom of page 2.  (I 
will let you decide for yourself if they are useful or not.)





Wow.  Maybe someone should introduce this guy to triangle man.

"Triangle man, Triangle man
Triangle man hates Cubicle man
They have a fight, Triangle wins
Triangle man"

Who knew that They Might Be Giants would come in this handy?

Mauro
(Obscurant enough for you?)
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--Ronn!  :)

"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country 
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that 
would be eliminated from schools too?"

   -- Red Skelton

(Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.)




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RE: Cold Pictures

[Andrew Paul]

> From: Russell Chapman

> Subject: Re: Cold Pictures
> 
> Andrew Paul wrote:
> 
> >Finally got around to setting up a Flickr account, largely cos I have
> >some pics of where I am currently working in Mongolia, thought you
may
> >be interested, esp Debbie as there is a pic of some very cute
Mongolian
> >horses grazing on the Gobi (There are no fences, and was a troop of
> >about 20, but I missed the rest, as the wild-maned black stallion led
> >them off as we approached - they may be wild or just nomad owned, not
> >sure)
> >
> >
> >
> Cool - how does all the stuff get there? And where do you get water
from?
> 

Its all trucked in, 500kms from UlanBator, over a few months. Drinking
water is trucked in too, but for showering etc, they have a water bore.
It's an exploration camp, full of drillers and geologists, so they don't
need much water for cleaning :)

Andrew

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RE: Cold Pictures

[Andrew Paul]

> From: Jo Anne
> Subject: RE: Cold Pictures
> 
> Hey List!!
>

Hi Jo Anne, good to see you back.
 
> It is I, Crone of the Willamette, actually posting to BrinL again now
that
> things are quiet.  I'm not sure what happened, but the politics has
seemed
> to decline, and that's all good in my opinion.  The Olympics may have
> something to do with the sleepiness of the list, too.
> 
> I was blown away by the pictures from Mongolia. *MONGOLIA*  I didn't
know
> yurts came with parquet floors, either.  I also think that yurt is the
> wrong
> word, as it seemed to be 'ger' or some such.
> 
> I want to know, Andrew, what do you burn in those stoves?  And do they
> really keep you warm?  What's your source of electricity?  Are wind
> turbines
> used?
> 

These stoves are made in Holland, and burn diesel (the bill for heating
diesel is 90K/month), the traditional ones use camel/horse/sheep dung,
as there is nothing else to burn for about 500kms. They keep us toasty
warm, the one in our ger (yurt is the Russian name) is usually on the
lowest setting otherwise we roast at night.

Electricity is diesel generators. It's a temporary camp, so everything
is mobile. Wind would be a good idea, it does get pretty windy here, but
not constantly so backup would be needed. 

> I was in a yurt at a medieval event once, when it was stifling hot.
The
> door was left open, and the yurt just funneled the breeze through the
door
> and out the hole in the top.  It was the only pleasant 'tent' in the
> entire
> encampment.  I've been a fascinated with them since.
> 

Yea, they are pretty cool. Err, warm..

Andrew

> How is everyone?  Any other sleepers out there care to check in?
> 
> Amities,
> 
> Jo Anne
> 
> 
> 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:26:54 +1100
> > From: "Andrew Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Cold Pictures
> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
> > Message-ID:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Finally got around to setting up a Flickr account, largely cos I
have
> > some pics of where I am currently working in Mongolia, thought you
may
> > be interested, esp Debbie as there is a pic of some very cute
Mongolian
> > horses grazing on the Gobi (There are no fences, and was a troop of
> > about 20, but I missed the rest, as the wild-maned black stallion
led
> > them off as we approached - they may be wild or just nomad owned,
not
> > sure)
> >
> > Anyway, FYI,
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
> >
> > Frozen Feet Maru
> 
> 
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RE: Cold Pictures

[Andrew Paul]

> From Nick Arnett
> Subject: Re: Cold Pictures
> 
> What sort of work takes one to Mongolia?
>

Consulting geology, I am doing a model and report for an exploration
project here in the Gobi.

 
> On 2/16/06, Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Finally got around to setting up a Flickr account, largely cos I
have
> > some pics of where I am currently working in Mongolia, thought you
may
> > be interested, esp Debbie as there is a pic of some very cute
Mongolian
> > horses grazing on the Gobi (There are no fences, and was a troop of
> > about 20, but I missed the rest, as the wild-maned black stallion
led
> > them off as we approached - they may be wild or just nomad owned,
not
> > sure)
> >
> > Anyway, FYI,
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
> >
> > Frozen Feet Maru
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Um, does this make any sense?

[Julia Thompson]

Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

On 2/16/06, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://www.timecube.com/

I'll explain where I found the link after a suitable number of people
have expressed their bogglement.





What is this bogglement?  How can you not understand this page of
"subsmissive [sic] obscurantism?"  :-)

I think the thing on the page that scared me most is down at the bottom
where it says, "Next Page"...

Wow.  Maybe someone should introduce this guy to triangle man.

"Triangle man, Triangle man
Triangle man hates Cubicle man
They have a fight, Triangle wins
Triangle man"

Who knew that They Might Be Giants would come in this handy?

Mauro
(Obscurant enough for you?)


Oh, I *love* TMBG, and I love that album!  :D

I found reference to it in a comment near the end of the comment thread 
(now closed) at 
http://bartholomewcubbins.blogspot.com/2006/01/interverbals-blog-has-great-discussion.html

or http://tinyurl.com/8jsgo for anyone who needs the shorter link.

Julia
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Re: To my loyal fans

[Robert Seeberger]

Robert Seeberger wrote:
> Video? Maru

Yeah!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/guide?category=GMA&subcategory=GMA_subnav&id=1631160#1631160

http://tinyurl.com/dey3x

Now you can see the video critique Bob's haircut or whatever.


xponent
In Living Color Maru
rob 


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Re: To my loyal fans

[Robert Seeberger]

Nick Arnett wrote:
> On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to be on Good Morning America tomorrow (around 7:40 am
>> est they tell me) talking about a nre brain imaging technique 
>> called
>> Diffusion Tensor Imaging - just about the coolest thing to come 
>> down
>> the pike in neuroimaging in the last few years (neater in my 
>> opinion
>> than fMRI). Of course if Cheney shoots someone else who knows maybe
>> they will bump me and of course I have no idea how they will 
>> present
>> the material (Charlie Gibson interviewed me for around 40 minutes
>> and the piece will run about 5 minutes). Gibson by the way is very
>> impressive. Put me at ease and grasped the concept of the test 
>> quite
>> well. Now of course they could butcher it but I hope not.
>
>
> They certainly seemed to present it well.  Good to see you!
>
> We have some knowledge and interest in brain tumors hereabouts, so 
> it
> was especially interesting to see the bit about improving surgery.
>
> Are you familiar with the brain imaging done by Dr. Daniel Amen on
> ADD/ADHD?  There seem to be varying opinions about its
> meaningfulness... but your images certainly reminded me of what he
> shows.
>
I didn't get to see the show but.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1627855&page=1

Bob gets quoted!



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rob 


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Re: Um, does this make any sense?

[Mauro Diotallevi]

On 2/16/06, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.timecube.com/
>
> I'll explain where I found the link after a suitable number of people
> have expressed their bogglement.



What is this bogglement?  How can you not understand this page of
"subsmissive [sic] obscurantism?"  :-)

I think the thing on the page that scared me most is down at the bottom
where it says, "Next Page"...

Wow.  Maybe someone should introduce this guy to triangle man.

"Triangle man, Triangle man
Triangle man hates Cubicle man
They have a fight, Triangle wins
Triangle man"

Who knew that They Might Be Giants would come in this handy?

Mauro
(Obscurant enough for you?)
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Re: Um, does this make any sense?

[Dave Land]

On Feb 16, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:


http://www.timecube.com/

I'll explain where I found the link after a suitable number of  
people have expressed their bogglement.


It used to be that people like the author of this web site had  
cardboard boxes full of yellow pads with heavy pencil scrawlings all  
over them. Sometimes, they pinned them up on the walls inside their  
homes and used colored string to connect various parts. If you've  
seen "A Beautiful Mind", you get the picture.


Now they have web sites.

Explained.

Dave

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Re: Music site (was Re: Scam alert)

[Julia Thompson]

OK, what my friend was looking for was "public record" stuff, not music. 
 :)  (Specifically, a license plate number.)  But I'll keep that site 
in mind.


Julia


Nick Arnett wrote:

Not sure what you were looking for when you went there, but allow me to
recommend www.sonicswap.com.

By way of disclosure, one of its founders used to work with Dave and me; the
company is a customer/partner of ours.  But this is also why I know that
they're good guys.

Nick

On 2/17/06, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Don't give reverserecords.com any money.  All they'll do for the money
they give you is a list of other sites that'll ask for money before
*they* do anything for you.  (A friend found out the hard way, and I
thought I'd let folks here know.)

   Julia

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Re: To my loyal fans

[Nick Arnett]

On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I am going to be on Good Morning America tomorrow (around 7:40 am est they
> tell me) talking about a nre brain imaging technique called Diffusion Tensor
> Imaging - just about the coolest thing to come down the pike in neuroimaging
> in the last few years (neater in my opinion than fMRI). Of course if Cheney
> shoots someone else who knows maybe they will bump me and of course I have
> no idea how they will present the material (Charlie Gibson interviewed me
> for around 40 minutes and the piece will run about 5 minutes). Gibson by the
> way is very impressive. Put me at ease and grasped the concept of the test
> quite well. Now of course they could butcher it but I hope not.


They certainly seemed to present it well.  Good to see you!

We have some knowledge and interest in brain tumors hereabouts, so it was
especially interesting to see the bit about improving surgery.

Are you familiar with the brain imaging done by Dr. Daniel Amen on
ADD/ADHD?  There seem to be varying opinions about its meaningfulness... but
your images certainly reminded me of what he shows.

Nick

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god is dead, or at least his email is

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From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion 
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:00:59 -0800
Subject: Fear the Future: MSN: "National Bank of Wal-Mart?"
Folks,

I know very little about the responsibility of Liz Pulliam Weston or
MSN, so the story could be shot through with biases and inaccuracies,
but, here's a piece describing how the world's most voracious
"person" is out to control even more of our "free" markets.

Dave

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Banking/Betterbanking/P109171.asp
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Re: To my loyal fans

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 04:49 PM Thursday 2/16/2006, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 04:18 PM Thursday 2/16/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am going to be on Good Morning America tomorrow (around 7:40 am 
est they tell me) talking about a nre brain imaging technique 
called Diffusion Tensor Imaging - just about the coolest thing to 
come down the pike in neuroimaging in the last few years (neater in 
my opinion than fMRI). Of course if Cheney shoots someone else who 
knows maybe they will bump me


Or maybe if he shoots them in the head, they will call upon you for 
a live demonstration of the technique.


I will try to figure out when that will be here (I know how to 
convert time zones but sometimes they delay programs like that) and 
have tape rolling . . .



Just watched the tape.  "Really cool stuff."  And now I have a face 
to put with the e-mail voice . . .



--Ronn!  :)

"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country 
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that 
would be eliminated from schools too?"

   -- Red Skelton

(Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.)



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Music site (was Re: Scam alert)

[Nick Arnett]

Not sure what you were looking for when you went there, but allow me to
recommend www.sonicswap.com.

By way of disclosure, one of its founders used to work with Dave and me; the
company is a customer/partner of ours.  But this is also why I know that
they're good guys.

Nick

On 2/17/06, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't give reverserecords.com any money.  All they'll do for the money
> they give you is a list of other sites that'll ask for money before
> *they* do anything for you.  (A friend found out the hard way, and I
> thought I'd let folks here know.)
>
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Scam alert

[Julia Thompson]

Don't give reverserecords.com any money.  All they'll do for the money 
they give you is a list of other sites that'll ask for money before 
*they* do anything for you.  (A friend found out the hard way, and I 
thought I'd let folks here know.)


Julia
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Re: Um, does this make any sense?

[Michael Harney]

Julia Thompson wrote:


http://www.timecube.com/

I'll explain where I found the link after a suitable number of people 
have expressed their bogglement.




What's the matter?  It couldn't be clearer.  The world is a rounded cube 
with only four sides.  Each of the sides is oposite to all of the other 
sides.  Athiests are mindless robots and religious people are stooges.  
-1x1=0.  What's there to be confused about?


What was I saying again? :-)

Michael Harney
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RE: Fear the Future: MSN: "National Bank of Wal-Mart?"

[Andrew Paul]

> From: Dave Land
> Subject: Fear the Future: MSN: "National Bank of Wal-Mart?"
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I know very little about the responsibility of Liz Pulliam Weston or
> MSN, so the story could be shot through with biases and inaccuracies,
> but, here's a piece describing how the world's most voracious
> "person" is out to control even more of our "free" markets.
> 
> Dave

I have mixed feelings about the whole Wal-Mart thing, but in this case I
can see some merit. I am sick of paying for Banks expensive boardroom
lunches and wine cellars and executive perks. In this day and age
banking should be much more efficient, and maybe Wal-Mart will help that
happen. Of course, it could be awful too.

Andrew

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Iran to hang teenage girl who fought back against rapists

[The Fool]

<>

Iran to hang teenage girl who fought back against rapists 
This is pretty horrible stuff. A teenage girl in Iran has been
sentenced to death by hanging after she admitted that she accidentally
killed a man who was trying to rape her and her niece.

--
"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not
find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming
feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions
of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of
Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has
been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and
the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the
earth."
--Thomas Jefferson Letter to William Short
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Fear the Future: MSN: "National Bank of Wal-Mart?"

[Dave Land]

Folks,

I know very little about the responsibility of Liz Pulliam Weston or  
MSN, so the story could be shot through with biases and inaccuracies,  
but, here's a piece describing how the world's most voracious  
"person" is out to control even more of our "free" markets.


Dave

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Banking/Betterbanking/P109171.asp
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