Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Ronn!Blankenship]

From another list:
 List Of Depressed Cities
   1.. Laredo, TX -- A+
   2.. El Paso, TX -- A+
   3.. Jersey City, NJ -- A+
   4.. Corpus Christi, TX -- A+
   5.. Baton Rouge, LA -- A
   6.. Honolulu, HI -- A-
   7.. Fresno, CA -- A-
   8.. San Jose, CA -- A-
   9.. Lincoln, NE -- B+
  10.. Bakersfield, CA -- B+
  11.. Buffalo, NY -- B+
  12.. Anchorage, AK -- B+
  13.. Stockton, CA -- B+
  14.. Shreveport, LA -- B+
  15.. (tie) Madison, WI -- B
   Montgomery, AL -- B
   Des Moines, IA -- B
  16.. Wichita, KS -- B
  17.. (tie) Sacramento, CA -- B
   Omaha, NE -- B
  18.. Memphis, TN -- B
  19.. New Orleans, LA -- B
  20.. (tie) Raleigh, NC -- B-
   Fort Wayne, IN -- B-
  21.. (tie) Fremont, CA -- B-
   Oakland, CA -- B-
  22.. Modesto, CA -- B-
  23.. Tacoma, WA -- B-
  24.. Toledo, OH -- B-
  25.. Boise, ID -- B-
  26.. Lubbock, TX -- C+
  27.. Little Rock, AR -- C+
  28.. Spokane, WA -- C+
  29.. Grand Rapids, MI -- C+
  30.. San Antonio, TX -- C+
  31.. (tie) Newark, NJ -- C+
   Akron, OH -- C+
   Austin, TX -- C+
  32.. Miami, FL -- C+
  33.. Richmond, VA -- C+
  34.. Lexington, KY -- C+
  35.. Jacksonville, FL -- C+
  36.. Rochester, NY -- C+
  37.. San Diego, CA -- C
  38.. Durham, NC -- C
  39.. Albuquerque, NM -- C
  40.. Charlotte, NC -- C
  41.. Tulsa, OK -- C
  42.. Providence, RI -- C
  43.. Greensboro, NC -- C
  44.. Colorado Springs, CO -- C
  45.. Chesapeake, VA -- C
  46.. (tie) Tucson, AZ -- C
   Birmingham, AL -- C
   Oklahoma City, OK -- C
   Columbus, OH -- C
  47.. Norfolk, VA -- C-
  48.. (tie) Arlington, TX -- C-
   Fort Worth, TX -- C-
   Riverside, CA -- C-
  49.. Plano, TX -- C-
  50.. (tie) Baltimore, MD -- C-
   San Francisco, CA -- C-
   Louisville, KY -- C-
  51.. Virginia Beach, VA -- C-
  52.. Orlando, FL -- D+
  53.. Las Vegas, NV -- D+
  54.. Washington, D.C. -- D+
  55.. Cincinnati, OH -- D+
  56.. Denver, CO -- D+
  57.. (tie) Boston, MA -- D
   St. Paul, MN -- D
   Seattle, WA -- D
  58.. Chicago, IL -- D
  59.. Aurora, CO -- D
  60.. Milwaukee, WI -- D
  61.. Houston, TX -- D
  62.. Minneapolis, MN -- D
  63.. (tie) Dallas, TX -- D
   Garland, TX -- D
  64.. Anaheim, CA -- D
  65.. Portland, OR -- D
  66.. (tie) Long Beach, CA -- D
   Los Angeles -- D
   Nashville, TN -- D
  67.. (tie) Yonkers, NY -- D
   Pittsburgh, PA -- D
   Kansas City, MO -- D
  68.. Atlanta, GA -- D
  69.. Salt Lake City, UT -- D-
  70.. New York, NY -- D-
  71.. Cleveland, OH -- F
  72.. (tie) Mesa, AZ -- F
   Phoenix, AZ -- F
   Scottsdale, AZ -- F
  73.. Indianapolis, IN -- F
  74.. Tampa, FL -- F
  75.. St. Louis, MO -- F
  76.. St. Petersburg, FL -- F
  77.. Detroit, MI -- F
  78.. Philadelphia, PA -- F
(Criteria for the rankings included information on antidepressant sales 
from NDC Health, suicide rates from the Centers for Disease Control and 
Prevention, and information from the CDC's Behavioral Risk Factor 
Surveillance System. The rankings are published in the April issue of Men's 
Health, which will be on newsstands March 15.)

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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Maru Dubshinki]

I certainly hope I do not get an A or A+ on that list. :)

~Maru
Sometimes, failure is the only way to succeed.

On 4/27/05, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  From another list:
> 
>   List Of Depressed Cities
> 
> 1.. Laredo, TX -- A+
> 2.. El Paso, TX -- A+
> 3.. Jersey City, NJ -- A+
> 4.. Corpus Christi, TX -- A+
> 5.. Baton Rouge, LA -- A
> 6.. Honolulu, HI -- A-
> 7.. Fresno, CA -- A-
> 8.. San Jose, CA -- A-
> 9.. Lincoln, NE -- B+
>10.. Bakersfield, CA -- B+
>11.. Buffalo, NY -- B+
>12.. Anchorage, AK -- B+
>13.. Stockton, CA -- B+
>14.. Shreveport, LA -- B+
>15.. (tie) Madison, WI -- B
> Montgomery, AL -- B
> Des Moines, IA -- B
>16.. Wichita, KS -- B
>17.. (tie) Sacramento, CA -- B
> Omaha, NE -- B
>18.. Memphis, TN -- B
>19.. New Orleans, LA -- B
>20.. (tie) Raleigh, NC -- B-
> Fort Wayne, IN -- B-
>21.. (tie) Fremont, CA -- B-
> Oakland, CA -- B-
>22.. Modesto, CA -- B-
>23.. Tacoma, WA -- B-
>24.. Toledo, OH -- B-
>25.. Boise, ID -- B-
>26.. Lubbock, TX -- C+
>27.. Little Rock, AR -- C+
>28.. Spokane, WA -- C+
>29.. Grand Rapids, MI -- C+
>30.. San Antonio, TX -- C+
>31.. (tie) Newark, NJ -- C+
> Akron, OH -- C+
> Austin, TX -- C+
>32.. Miami, FL -- C+
>33.. Richmond, VA -- C+
>34.. Lexington, KY -- C+
>35.. Jacksonville, FL -- C+
>36.. Rochester, NY -- C+
>37.. San Diego, CA -- C
>38.. Durham, NC -- C
>39.. Albuquerque, NM -- C
>40.. Charlotte, NC -- C
>41.. Tulsa, OK -- C
>42.. Providence, RI -- C
>43.. Greensboro, NC -- C
>44.. Colorado Springs, CO -- C
>45.. Chesapeake, VA -- C
>46.. (tie) Tucson, AZ -- C
> Birmingham, AL -- C
> Oklahoma City, OK -- C
> Columbus, OH -- C
>47.. Norfolk, VA -- C-
>48.. (tie) Arlington, TX -- C-
> Fort Worth, TX -- C-
> Riverside, CA -- C-
>49.. Plano, TX -- C-
>50.. (tie) Baltimore, MD -- C-
> San Francisco, CA -- C-
> Louisville, KY -- C-
>51.. Virginia Beach, VA -- C-
>52.. Orlando, FL -- D+
>53.. Las Vegas, NV -- D+
>54.. Washington, D.C. -- D+
>55.. Cincinnati, OH -- D+
>56.. Denver, CO -- D+
>57.. (tie) Boston, MA -- D
> St. Paul, MN -- D
> Seattle, WA -- D
>58.. Chicago, IL -- D
>59.. Aurora, CO -- D
>60.. Milwaukee, WI -- D
>61.. Houston, TX -- D
>62.. Minneapolis, MN -- D
>63.. (tie) Dallas, TX -- D
> Garland, TX -- D
>64.. Anaheim, CA -- D
>65.. Portland, OR -- D
>66.. (tie) Long Beach, CA -- D
> Los Angeles -- D
> Nashville, TN -- D
>67.. (tie) Yonkers, NY -- D
> Pittsburgh, PA -- D
> Kansas City, MO -- D
>68.. Atlanta, GA -- D
>69.. Salt Lake City, UT -- D-
>70.. New York, NY -- D-
>71.. Cleveland, OH -- F
>72.. (tie) Mesa, AZ -- F
> Phoenix, AZ -- F
> Scottsdale, AZ -- F
>73.. Indianapolis, IN -- F
>74.. Tampa, FL -- F
>75.. St. Louis, MO -- F
>76.. St. Petersburg, FL -- F
>77.. Detroit, MI -- F
>78.. Philadelphia, PA -- F
> 
> (Criteria for the rankings included information on antidepressant sales
> from NDC Health, suicide rates from the Centers for Disease Control and
> Prevention, and information from the CDC's Behavioral Risk Factor
> Surveillance System. The rankings are published in the April issue of Men's
> Health, which will be on newsstands March 15.)
> 
> -- Ronn!  :)
> 
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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 08:23 PM Wednesday 4/27/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote:
I certainly hope I do not get an A or A+ on that list. :)

Oh, sorry, I guess that wasn't clear without a link to the original article 
which got snipped somewhere along the line.  The higher the number on the 
list, the more depressed the people of the city are, according to the 
study.  Here's a link to a 
summary:  <>.  (I don't have a 
link to the full list.)

-- Ronn!  :)
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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Nick Arnett]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:45:35 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote
> From another list:
> 
>   List Of Depressed Cities

Seems to me that this is a list of cities ranked by how little they use
anti-depressants, not how depressed they are.  Could be that some are high on
the list because they have lousy medical insurance that won't pay for the
medication.  Or the people are just too dang proud to admit they need it.

But it seems to bear witness to W.C. Fields' famous line about Philadelphia.

Nick
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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Dave Land]

I'm happy to see that I moved up rather significantly in the '80s when 
I went from #67 Pittsburgh to #8 San Jose.

Dave
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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Warren Ockrassa]

On Apr 27, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
From another list:
 List Of Depressed Cities
   1.. Laredo, TX -- A+
   2.. El Paso, TX -- A+
   3.. Jersey City, NJ -- A+
   4.. Corpus Christi, TX -- A+
Well, ignorance is bliss. ;)
More seriously, it might have something to do with annual sunlight 
quantity. That's just a wild stab though.

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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Damon Agretto]

Well, ignorance is bliss. ;)
More seriously, it might have something to do with annual sunlight 
quantity. That's just a wild stab though.
DUnno. I'm at the same latitude as Jersey City AND NYC, and I don't feel 
depressed! :)

Damon, the drugs tell me so...

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RE: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Horn, John]

> Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship
> 
>   List Of Depressed Cities
> 
>75.. St. Louis, MO -- F

Always proud to see my home town high on these sorts of lists!
We're #75!  We're #75!

 - jmh
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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Gary Denton]

On 4/28/05, Horn, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship
> >
> >   List Of Depressed Cities
> >
> >75.. St. Louis, MO -- F
> 
> Always proud to see my home town high on these sorts of lists!
> We're #75!  We're #75!

Laredo, El Paso and Corpus go across the border or have a friend on
their latest trip get the meds at 1/4 the price or less.
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RE: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Jim Sharkey]

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
>3.. Jersey City, NJ A+

WTF?  I work in JC, and I have never had any reason to think it's a terribly 
happy place.  It's certainly not somewhere that one would expect to see rampant 
positivity.  Unless they only polled people outside of the Stanley Theater.  I 
mean, have you ever seen a sad Jehovah's Witness?  :)

Jim
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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Julia Thompson]

Damon Agretto wrote:

Well, ignorance is bliss. ;)
More seriously, it might have something to do with annual sunlight 
quantity. That's just a wild stab though.

DUnno. I'm at the same latitude as Jersey City AND NYC, and I don't feel 
depressed! :)
How does the weather compare?
Julia
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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 02:15 PM Thursday 4/28/2005, Gary Denton wrote:
On 4/28/05, Horn, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship
> >
> >   List Of Depressed Cities
> >
> >75.. St. Louis, MO -- F
>
> Always proud to see my home town high on these sorts of lists!
> We're #75!  We're #75!
Laredo, El Paso and Corpus go across the border or have a friend on
their latest trip get the meds at 1/4 the price or less.

Another smart-aleck on the list where I got the list of cities from 
suggested that it is because those cities are full of Mexicans who are 
happy because they are no longer in Mexico . . .

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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Russell Chapman]

Jim Sharkey wrote:
 I mean, have you ever seen a sad Jehovah's Witness?  :)
Jim
 

Which raises the question - how come Salt Lake City rates so poorly? I 
would have thought that the doctrine would prevent Mormons using 
anti-depressants, and the community structure should reduce suicide. Has 
the proportion of Mormons reduced significantly in SLC in recent times?

Cheers
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RE: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 07:46 PM Thursday 4/28/2005, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
>3.. Jersey City, NJ A+
WTF?  I work in JC, and I have never had any reason to think it's a 
terribly happy place.  It's certainly not somewhere that one would expect 
to see rampant positivity.

Maybe with all the fumes from industries and toxic waste they don't need 
either Rx drugs or EtOH to feel fine?


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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 02:15 PM Thursday 4/28/2005, Gary Denton wrote:
On 4/28/05, Horn, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship
> >
> >   List Of Depressed Cities
> >
> >75.. St. Louis, MO -- F
>
> Always proud to see my home town high on these sorts of lists!
> We're #75!  We're #75!

I would have thought that my friend who lives there learning recently that 
her husband (member of the NG) will not have to go to Iraq would have 
raised the happiness index several points all by herself.

-- Ronn!  :)
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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 08:14 PM Thursday 4/28/2005, Russell Chapman wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
 I mean, have you ever seen a sad Jehovah's Witness?  :)
Jim
Which raises the question - how come Salt Lake City rates so poorly? I 
would have thought that the doctrine would prevent Mormons using 
anti-depressants, and the community structure should reduce suicide. Has 
the proportion of Mormons reduced significantly in SLC in recent times?

Fwiw, the list I originally got the list of cities from is a 
"Mormon"-oriented list, and it was posted there originally by someone who 
formally resigned his membership in the Church a year or two ago.

Some of the responses which it has received there include:
1.  SLC proper is <50% LDS, and many of the non-LDS there are young single 
males who moved there for such things as employment opportunities in 
construction. People relying solely on such jobs tend to be rather 
low-income, and there is a strong correlation between low income and 
depression.  The SLC MSA contains the stretch from Utah County to at least 
Brigham City as well as SLC proper, and, while Utah County (the home of 
BYU) is indeed considered rather heavily LDS (I don't know the % right off, 
though), to the north of SLC you have Ogden with Hill AFB and the other 
government agencies which draw a large number of employees from elsewhere 
to the area.  I don't know if the data were collected for the cities 
themselves (within the official city limits) or the MSAs, or what. (I 
wasn't surveyed, but the city limits of Birmingham, AL — tied for #46 on 
the list — pass through my front yard, so who knows where they would have 
counted me.)

2.  Prescription medication is generally considered acceptable by 
LDS.  Non-LDS anywhere may be more likely to self-medicate with EtOH or 
other mood-altering substances frowned upon by LDS, either formally or as a 
folk belief held by some.

3.  The suicide stats are based on successful suicides, and the high rate 
of private firearm ownership in Western states makes the rate of successful 
suicides, among males at least, higher than it is in other parts of the 
country where the rate of firearm ownership is lower.  According to a 
cultural anthropologist I know in Utah who I got some of the figures from, 
the rate of successful suicides in Utah is lower than it is in the 
surrounding states, although Utah's rate of private firearm ownership is 
comparable to that in those surrounding states.


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Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

[Robert Seeberger]

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
> At 02:15 PM Thursday 4/28/2005, Gary Denton wrote:
>> On 4/28/05, Horn, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship

   List Of Depressed Cities

75.. St. Louis, MO -- F
>>>
>>> Always proud to see my home town high on these sorts of lists!
>>> We're #75!  We're #75!
>>
>> Laredo, El Paso and Corpus go across the border or have a friend on
>> their latest trip get the meds at 1/4 the price or less.
>
>
> Another smart-aleck on the list where I got the list of cities from
> suggested that it is because those cities are full of Mexicans who 
> are
> happy because they are no longer in Mexico . . .
>
>
..and on their way to fame and fortune in Houston.



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