Re: Custer and Little Big Horn

2003-06-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  The idea of a heroic Indian fighter is out of
 fashion these days, for good reason.
 
 ? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all.
 In fact the latest tribal
 newspaper has several stories on wariors who are
 serving in the middle east.
 What would the good reason be?

I'm answering this b/c I think I know what Damon
meant: Indian fighter = fighter of/against Indians
whereas you, I think, are referring to Native American
soldiers/warriors.  The term Indian fighter was much
used in old pulp Westerns (and I think old movie
Westerns too) to refer to a 'tough white man who
fought maraudering Indians on the frontier' -- you
don't hear the term much nowadays, especially given
the more civilized way we modern folk view the
government policies of the Indian wars.

Debbi

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Re: Custer and Little Big Horn

2003-06-27 Thread Damon

? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest tribal
newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle east.
What would the good reason be?
Umm, an indian fighter is one who fights indians!

Damon.


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Re: Custer and Little Big Horn

2003-06-27 Thread Jan Coffey

--- Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 ? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest
 tribal
 newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle
 east.
 What would the good reason be?
 
 Umm, an indian fighter is one who fights indians!
 

Ha! Is an unlaufull comantant one who combants unlaufulls? 
Fright Liner, sawdust, styrophome or other such packing material used to line
fright.
Punk Rocker, one who gives comfort and consolment to punks
American railroader, one who railroads americans.
...


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Re: Custer and Little Big Horn

2003-06-27 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:27 AM 6/27/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:

--- Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest
 tribal
 newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle
 east.
 What would the good reason be?

 Umm, an indian fighter is one who fights indians!

Ha! Is an unlaufull comantant one who combants unlaufulls?
Fright Liner, sawdust, styrophome or other such packing material used to line
fright.
Punk Rocker, one who gives comfort and consolment to punks
American railroader, one who railroads americans.


English is such a consistent language . . .



The Tough Coughed As He Went Through The Rough Thoroughly Enough Maru



-- Ronn :)

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882), in Self Reliance (1841)
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Re: Custer and Little Big Horn

2003-06-26 Thread Damon
I think what Jan was referring to in his post about Custer was not the 
man's personal bravery nor his skills (or lack thereof) of a tactician. I 
think what he was referring to was the concept of the Last Stand as a 
heroic battle to the last. The reality, of course, is that Custer vastly 
underestimated his enemies, and he was there to kill them in a long series 
of conflicts that is sometimes compared to the Holocaust.

The idea of a heroic Indian fighter is out of fashion these days, for good 
reason.

Damon.

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Re: Custer and Little Big Horn

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey

--- Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think what Jan was referring to in his post about Custer was not the 
 man's personal bravery nor his skills (or lack thereof) of a tactician. 

Well I was refering to both actualy. The last stand and the BS marketing
that led up to it. Custer was not all his reputation made him out to be. But
more importantly the last stand was not a heroic battle, on the part of
Custer that is.

I 
 think what he was referring to was the concept of the Last Stand as a 
 heroic battle to the last. The reality, of course, is that Custer vastly 
 underestimated his enemies, and he was there to kill them in a long series 
 of conflicts that is sometimes compared to the Holocaust.
 
 The idea of a heroic Indian fighter is out of fashion these days, for good 
 reason.

? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest tribal
newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle east.
What would the good reason be?


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