Re: Custer and Little Big Horn
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The idea of a heroic Indian fighter is out of fashion these days, for good reason. ? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest tribal newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle east. What would the good reason be? I'm answering this b/c I think I know what Damon meant: Indian fighter = fighter of/against Indians whereas you, I think, are referring to Native American soldiers/warriors. The term Indian fighter was much used in old pulp Westerns (and I think old movie Westerns too) to refer to a 'tough white man who fought maraudering Indians on the frontier' -- you don't hear the term much nowadays, especially given the more civilized way we modern folk view the government policies of the Indian wars. Debbi __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Custer and Little Big Horn
? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest tribal newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle east. What would the good reason be? Umm, an indian fighter is one who fights indians! Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. Now Building: Esci/Italeri's M60A1 Patton ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Custer and Little Big Horn
--- Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest tribal newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle east. What would the good reason be? Umm, an indian fighter is one who fights indians! Ha! Is an unlaufull comantant one who combants unlaufulls? Fright Liner, sawdust, styrophome or other such packing material used to line fright. Punk Rocker, one who gives comfort and consolment to punks American railroader, one who railroads americans. ... = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Custer and Little Big Horn
At 10:27 AM 6/27/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: --- Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest tribal newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle east. What would the good reason be? Umm, an indian fighter is one who fights indians! Ha! Is an unlaufull comantant one who combants unlaufulls? Fright Liner, sawdust, styrophome or other such packing material used to line fright. Punk Rocker, one who gives comfort and consolment to punks American railroader, one who railroads americans. English is such a consistent language . . . The Tough Coughed As He Went Through The Rough Thoroughly Enough Maru -- Ronn :) A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds -- Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882), in Self Reliance (1841) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Custer and Little Big Horn
I think what Jan was referring to in his post about Custer was not the man's personal bravery nor his skills (or lack thereof) of a tactician. I think what he was referring to was the concept of the Last Stand as a heroic battle to the last. The reality, of course, is that Custer vastly underestimated his enemies, and he was there to kill them in a long series of conflicts that is sometimes compared to the Holocaust. The idea of a heroic Indian fighter is out of fashion these days, for good reason. Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. Now Building: Esci/Italeri's M60A1 Patton ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Custer and Little Big Horn
--- Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what Jan was referring to in his post about Custer was not the man's personal bravery nor his skills (or lack thereof) of a tactician. Well I was refering to both actualy. The last stand and the BS marketing that led up to it. Custer was not all his reputation made him out to be. But more importantly the last stand was not a heroic battle, on the part of Custer that is. I think what he was referring to was the concept of the Last Stand as a heroic battle to the last. The reality, of course, is that Custer vastly underestimated his enemies, and he was there to kill them in a long series of conflicts that is sometimes compared to the Holocaust. The idea of a heroic Indian fighter is out of fashion these days, for good reason. ? Not my my circles it isn't out of fasion at all. In fact the latest tribal newspaper has several stories on wariors who are serving in the middle east. What would the good reason be? = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l