Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-24 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:00 PM Wednesday 1/23/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:


>On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>
> > On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, I got a stack dump at the above link.  Too much of an in-joke
> >> for me.  Could you explain what is so funny about the error for those
> >> of us who are obviously out-joked?
> >
> >
> > Meta:
> >
> > 
> >
> > Specific reference:
> >
> > 
> 
>   
>  >
> >
> > The joke sort of spun off from there and recurs cyclically, generally
> > when some religidiot makes an inane argument about evolution or biology.
>
>Thank you.  I never read pharyngula, but sometimes the stuff spills over
>to Respectful Insolence.  (Which I haven't read since October or so,
>unfortunately.)
>
> Julia



I seldom read it, either.  Sometimes particular entries are 
referenced on the Bad Astronomy blog, but even then I seldom go there 
unless it looks really interesting.  That's almost never when it 
comes to religious topics, 'cuz the impassioned writings of True 
Believing Skeptics (including, more and more often :(, Phil Plait the 
BA) are generally no less trying to read than the impassioned 
writings of True Believing YECs and ID advocates . . . X;{


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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2008, at 12:25 AM, Dave Land wrote:

> On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>
>> On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I got a stack dump at the above link.  Too much of an in-joke
>>> for me.  Could you explain what is so funny about the error for  
>>> those
>>> of us who are obviously out-joked?
>>
>> Meta:
>>
>> 
>
>
> The best comment in this thread:
>
> If there are PYGMIES + DWARFS, then why are there still humans?

If there are humans, then why are there still right wing  
fundamentalist nincompoops?

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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-23 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:

> On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>
>> Okay, I got a stack dump at the above link.  Too much of an in-joke
>> for me.  Could you explain what is so funny about the error for those
>> of us who are obviously out-joked?
>
> Meta:
>
> 


The best comment in this thread:

If there are PYGMIES + DWARFS, then why are there still humans?

Dave

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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-23 Thread Charlie Bell

On 24/01/2008, at 4:00 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>
>> The joke sort of spun off from there and recurs cyclically, generally
>> when some religidiot makes an inane argument about evolution or  
>> biology.
>
> Thank you.  I never read pharyngula, but sometimes the stuff spills  
> over
> to Respectful Insolence.  (Which I haven't read since October or so,
> unfortunately.)

I read both daily. Well, both are in my feed-reader, and I click on an  
article or two from both most days.

Charlie.
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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-23 Thread Charlie Bell

On 24/01/2008, at 1:37 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>>
>
>
>
> Okay, I got a stack dump at the above link.  Too much of an in-joke
> for me.  Could you explain what is so funny about the error for those
> of us who are obviously out-joked?

"PYGMIES + DWARFS" is from a Jim Pinkowski cartoon, a fundie comic  
full of inanity, banality, misrepresentations and lies. Here it is,  
along with some fun discussion...

http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/if_you_doubt_this_is_possible_how_is_it_there_are_pygmies_dwarfs/

It's now used to express horror at the stupidity of a comment in a  
creationist infested thread, among other uses.

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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-23 Thread Julia Thompson


On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Warren Ockrassa wrote:

> On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>
>> Okay, I got a stack dump at the above link.  Too much of an in-joke
>> for me.  Could you explain what is so funny about the error for those
>> of us who are obviously out-joked?
>
>
> Meta:
>
> 
>
> Specific reference:
>
>  >
>
> The joke sort of spun off from there and recurs cyclically, generally
> when some religidiot makes an inane argument about evolution or biology.

Thank you.  I never read pharyngula, but sometimes the stuff spills over 
to Respectful Insolence.  (Which I haven't read since October or so, 
unfortunately.)

Julia

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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-23 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

> Okay, I got a stack dump at the above link.  Too much of an in-joke
> for me.  Could you explain what is so funny about the error for those
> of us who are obviously out-joked?


Meta:



Specific reference:



The joke sort of spun off from there and recurs cyclically, generally  
when some religidiot makes an inane argument about evolution or biology.

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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-23 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 05:08 AM Wednesday 1/23/2008, Charlie Bell wrote:

>On 23/01/2008, at 11:46 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>
> > On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:59 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1
> >>
> >> "No, everyone is born Christian.
> >
> > Really? Huh. So why baptism? And ... and why are there PYGMIES +
> > DWARFS?
>
>*chuckle* That's become one of my favourite injokes.
>
>Charlie.



Okay, I got a stack dump at the above link.  Too much of an in-joke 
for me.  Could you explain what is so funny about the error for those 
of us who are obviously out-joked?


-- Ronn!  :)



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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-23 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:08 AM, Charlie Bell wrote:

> On 23/01/2008, at 11:46 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>>
>> Really? Huh. So why baptism? And ... and why are there PYGMIES +
>> DWARFS?
>
> *chuckle* That's become one of my favourite injokes.

Used sparingly, it's a fun reference -- but like "Don't tase me, bro!"  
it's prone to overuse.

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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-23 Thread Charlie Bell

On 23/01/2008, at 11:46 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:

> On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:59 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
>
>> http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1
>>
>> "No, everyone is born Christian.
>
> Really? Huh. So why baptism? And ... and why are there PYGMIES +  
> DWARFS?

*chuckle* That's become one of my favourite injokes.

Charlie.
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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-22 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:59 AM, William T Goodall wrote:

> http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1
>
> "No, everyone is born Christian.

Really? Huh. So why baptism? And ... and why are there PYGMIES + DWARFS?

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Re: Portal (was RE: Fundamentalist Wisdom)

2008-01-22 Thread Jim Sharkey

Robert Seeberger wrote:
>I couldn't play TF because my PC had a crappy Nvidia 5200 card

You need to upgrade then, because TF2 is a complete blast!  At least,
assuming you can find non-a--holes to play with, anyway.  If you get
yourself up and running, let me know.  My forum has a great server.

Jim
Crit Rocket Maru

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Re: Portal (was RE: Fundamentalist Wisdom)

2008-01-22 Thread Charlie Bell

On 22/01/2008, at 9:58 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> I couldn't play TF because my PC had a crappy Nvidia 5200 card, but I
> suffered through *all* the HL2 episodes with the 5200 and in
> frustration upgraded to a 7300GT only to find it still isn't quite
> powerful enough to give good frame rates, but is just good enough to
> play the games.

Gah! Wish you'd asked first - the 7600GS is very affordable and allows  
me to play most games adequately on my Athlon 2600XP, 1.5GB RAM. Far  
Cry has grass now, which was a revelation.

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Re: Portal (was RE: Fundamentalist Wisdom)

2008-01-21 Thread Robert Seeberger

On 1/21/2008 7:06:27 AM, Jim Sharkey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Robert Seeberger wrote:
> >Jim Sharkey wrote:
> >>William T Goodall wrote:
> >>>Evolution is a lie
> >>So is the cake.
> > I was going to have a party and invite all your friends.
>
> I'm glad at least someone knew that one.  Despite its brevity, I 
> think
> Portal ought to be game of the year.  It was fun, darkly hilarious,
> and features a great Jonathon Coulton song at the end.  What's
> not to
> love?
>
> And the best part is it requires very few "twitch" skills.  I 
> honestly
> think it's a game almost anyone could enjoy.
>

To me it was like an overblown intelligence test. You really have to 
twist your mind to figure out how to progress through some of the 
levels.

I bought the Orange Box after listening to people talk about how great 
it was for months figuring I'd play TF2 since I loved the original TF. 
I couldn't play TF because my PC had a crappy Nvidia 5200 card, but I 
suffered through *all* the HL2 episodes with the 5200 and in 
frustration upgraded to a 7300GT only to find it still isn't quite 
powerful enough to give good frame rates, but is just good enough to 
play the games.
(The fact that my MB is old enough to still have an AGP graphic slot 
and not PCI-E should say a lot..3.2Ghz single core)
By the time I got around to Portal, I was getting barely acceptable 
frames and having a blast. Portal *is* the game of the year without a 
doubt and the rumors that HL3 will have the Portal Gun as a feature 
have me eagerly anticipating.

xponent
Can Barely Play TF Maru
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Portal (was RE: Fundamentalist Wisdom)

2008-01-21 Thread Jim Sharkey

Robert Seeberger wrote:
>Jim Sharkey wrote:
>>William T Goodall wrote:
>>>Evolution is a lie
>>So is the cake.
> I was going to have a party and invite all your friends.

I'm glad at least someone knew that one.  Despite its brevity, I think
Portal ought to be game of the year.  It was fun, darkly hilarious,
and features a great Jonathon Coulton song at the end.  What's not to
love?

And the best part is it requires very few "twitch" skills.  I honestly
think it's a game almost anyone could enjoy.

Jim
I'm not even angry Maru

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RE: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-20 Thread Robert Seeberger

On 1/20/2008 2:22:01 PM, Jim Sharkey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >William T Goodall wrote:
> >Evolution is a lie
>
> So is the cake.
>
 I was going to have a party and invite all your friends.

xponent
Portal Maru
rob 


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RE: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-20 Thread Julia Thompson


On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Jim Sharkey wrote:

>
>> William T Goodall wrote:
>> Evolution is a lie
>
> So is the cake.
>
> Jim
> Aperture Science Maru

The pi, however, is true.

Julia

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RE: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-20 Thread Jim Sharkey

>William T Goodall wrote:
>Evolution is a lie

So is the cake.

Jim
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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:48 PM Saturday 1/19/2008, Dave Land wrote:
>On Jan 19, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>
> > At 07:59 AM Saturday 1/19/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
> >
> >> "I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie"
> >> "One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of
> >> Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an
> >> environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law
> >> that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we
> >> started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just
> >> isn't
> >> possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying
> >> the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source,
> >> scientists would certainly know about it."
> >
> > "Gee, I bet a person couldn't find the Sun in the sky with that kind
> > of clue . . . "
>
>Very much to William's point (with which I find myself in agreement in
>this case): these guys couldn't find their own asses with both hands and
>a map.


Hmm . . . I didn't think the joke was _that_ obscure . . .


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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-19 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 19, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

> At 07:59 AM Saturday 1/19/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
>
>> "I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie"
>> "One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of
>> Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an
>> environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law
>> that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we
>> started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just  
>> isn't
>> possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying
>> the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source,
>> scientists would certainly know about it."
>
> "Gee, I bet a person couldn't find the Sun in the sky with that kind
> of clue . . . "

Very much to William's point (with which I find myself in agreement in
this case): these guys couldn't find their own asses with both hands and
a map.

Dave

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Re: Fundamentalist Wisdom

2008-01-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:59 AM Saturday 1/19/2008, William T Goodall wrote:

>"I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie"
>"One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of
>Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an
>environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law
>that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we
>started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't
>possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying
>the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source,
>scientists would certainly know about it."



"Gee, I bet a person couldn't find the Sun in the sky with that kind 
of clue . . . "


-- Ronn!  :)



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