Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
I have a habit of stowing away certain e-mails that for one reason or another I can't respond to expediently, but that I fully intend to comment on at some point in time: From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Subject: Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:26:40 -0500 Me: > But yeah, I think there's some fairly decent music on that album. > And > if I could afford to I'd probably buy one. Hell, I'll probably buy > one anyway. In a while. When I get a job. I like to think that AMYCD is an example of what Brin talks about when he discusses the rise of competent amateurism. In AFAIK only one piece was recorded in a studio (and I am pretty sure that was a piecemeal affair). The rest were recorded in bedrooms, living rooms, basements and converted garages. Most were recorded using the artists personal computer. I am quite amazed at the quality results one can achieve in such ordinary circumstances. Yeah I know a few people who record in their bedrooms etc, and the quality of the music can be suprising. As for the competent amateurism bit, I must say that personal experience on my part leads me to agree with you and of course da Docta. There are many "amateur" artists out there breeding competent creation in a variety of different mediums. Some even go so far as to excel and consequently rival the pros. Some. > Anyway, kudos for helping to get the muzak out there. You just went > up three and a half points on my cool meter. For what that's worth. > It's worth quite a lot, even though I doubt I have done anything worthy of such props. xponent Only Having Fun, Doing Things I Like Maru rob And those things you like happen to be things that tickle my fancy; at least in this instance. Hence, cool. -Travis _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
Travis Edmunds wrote: >> From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion >> To: >> Subject: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head >> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:31:11 -0500 >> >> http://www.cdbaby.com/amycd2 >> >> The album I have been helping to midwife for the last year. >> With tinny sounding samples that are supposed to make you have to >> have to have this album today! >> >> I worked my ass off to get this out. You could at least give the >> tinny samples a listen. > > I gave 'em a listen and...well...how 70's prog rock of you; et al! > > It's true for some of those samples anyway, and you know it. It is certainly true of about half of the album. But considering that a love of prog is what brought these great people together, it is not surprising. > > But yeah, I think there's some fairly decent music on that album. > And > if I could afford to I'd probably buy one. Hell, I'll probably buy > one anyway. In a while. When I get a job. I like to think that AMYCD is an example of what Brin talks about when he discusses the rise of competent amateurism. In AFAIK only one piece was recorded in a studio (and I am pretty sure that was a piecemeal affair). The rest were recorded in bedrooms, living rooms, basements and converted garages. Most were recorded using the artists personal computer. I am quite amazed at the quality results one can achieve in such ordinary circumstances. > > Anyway, kudos for helping to get the muzak out there. You just went > up three and a half points on my cool meter. For what that's worth. > It's worth quite a lot, even though I doubt I have done anything worthy of such props. xponent Only Having Fun, Doing Things I Like Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: Subject: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:31:11 -0500 http://www.cdbaby.com/amycd2 The album I have been helping to midwife for the last year. With tinny sounding samples that are supposed to make you have to have to have this album today! I worked my ass off to get this out. You could at least give the tinny samples a listen. I gave 'em a listen and...well...how 70's prog rock of you; et al! It's true for some of those samples anyway, and you know it. But yeah, I think there's some fairly decent music on that album. And if I could afford to I'd probably buy one. Hell, I'll probably buy one anyway. In a while. When I get a job. Anyway, kudos for helping to get the muzak out there. You just went up three and a half points on my cool meter. For what that's worth. -Travis _ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
A prose writer gets tired of writing prose, and wants to be a poet. So he begins every line with a capital letter, and keeps on writing prose. --Samuel McChord Crothers-- From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:51:11 -0700 Rob: Creating music is hard hard hard hard hard. Dave: I have a friend, Ted Larson, who is one of those guys who, at a church retreat, can decide at lunch time that he's going to write a song for the campfire that night and do it. Don't we all have a Ted Larson striking a chord within our lives? But I think the aforementioned spammer was referring specifically to multi-faceted music; as in a full set of instruments coming together to create some coherent noise as opposed to say, a guy ad-libbing with an acoustic guitar. Rob: I also write lyrics. The Grand Machine is the result of my writing, and was inspired by The Time Ships by Brin's buddy S. Baxter. And Dave again: Writing is also hard. Maybe not hard hard hard hard hard, but certainly hard hard hard. I wouldn't say that it's necessarily "hard" per se. But it depends of course on whence you come. For if you mean that those sublime moments of profound insight into the human condition as expressed by the author through the _character_ are hard, then yes, I suppose they are. We are after all somewhat limited in our profundity (see - partial digression below). If however you meant that the methodical construction process and everything that comes with it is difficult, then I disagree. Tedious yes, at times, but hardly hard. Albeit you _do_ have to be on your game to write something decent all the same... A partial digression (pardon the messy link): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0152052089/qid=1114703314/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-4510934-2317420 In her dandy little book, Very Far Away From Anywhere Else (87 pages), Ursula K. Le Guin uses her main character, Owen, to dole out erudite insights like they're goin' outta style. In fact, such is the compact air of intellectual complexity surrounding Owen, that he makes Anne Rice characters pale in comparison. As one reviewer put it, "I still can't believe Le Guin fit so much into such a short book." And that my friend is the mark one who reads but doesn't write. Meaning that the above comment shows a naivete towards the writing process - specifically that it was a difficult task to squeeze so much insightfulness into such a small space - whereas such thinking is, in actuality, antithetical to the truth; i.e. it would have been much more difficult (if not impossible) to sustain such writing throughout a longer novel. My degree's in writing, but not lyrics. The tough part is making it rhythmical (and maybe even rhyming) without making it doggerel. I think I read the doggerel bit in a textbook once... As for the first sentence, could you elaborate a little? -Travis PS - I'll check out the tunes soon, Rob. _ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
- Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head > On Apr 27, 2005, at 5:59 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > They sound a bit awful over here. My Logitech micro/headphones just > > don't cut it soundwise and my Altec-Lansing speakers don't sound a lot > > better to me. > > I have a pair of Altec-lansing computer speakers, and I have special > EQ settings called something like "shitty little desktop speakers" or > some such to make them sound less, well, shitty. > > > H.to be honest, I am the guy who makes the wheels go round, I > > am the force that keeps the project organized and ongoing. I also > > print, staple, duplicate CDs, and finance the project. > > Yes. Right after writing my message, I went to amycd.com and saw that > you are "executive producer," which often means "money guy." > > > Some guys go hunting and fishing. I coordinate musicians and artists > > and website creators and sell CDs. > > Not a bad hobby. At least it keeps you off the streets. > > > And I do the easy job. > > Creating music is hard hard hard hard hard. > > I have a friend, Ted Larson, who is one of those guys who, at a church > retreat, can decide at lunch time that he's going to write a song for > the campfire that night and do it. > My daughter, who's a junior at Lawrence, writes music that actually gets played in public. She conducts a bell choir and has written some music for them. She also does some music for the various parts of the service. According to her it's "no big deal." :-) I think writing music would be easy for me, just come up with note progressions. It's writing music that would not send people running and screaming to get as far away as possible that's hard. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
Dave Land wrote: > On Apr 27, 2005, at 5:59 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> I also write lyrics. The Grand Machine is the result of my writing, >> and was inspired by The Time Ships by Brin's buddy S. Baxter. > > Writing is also hard. Maybe not hard hard hard hard hard, but > certainly hard hard hard. My degree's in writing, but not lyrics. > The > tough part is making it rhythmical (and maybe even rhyming) without > making it doggerel. I find writing very hard. Writing posts to the list is usually quite difficult for me. Writing lyrics and poetry is much easier and I seem to have some talent for it. (At least judging from comments by the people who use my lyrics) Getting started can be hard, but once I get going, I can find those rhythyms and twist the language into something that may have little or no real meaning, but evokes images and may even "sound" like it has meaning. It can be a lot of fun. > > Keep up the hard work, > Lately I've been getting credit for being someone who does a lot to support independent musicians. I suppose that is true, but I just enjoy the projects and the music. And it looks like one of our bands, The Naming, is going to let me issue their (IMO) wonderful album Sun King. I am constantly amazed that this band could never get signed. xponent Sun King Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
On Apr 27, 2005, at 5:59 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: They sound a bit awful over here. My Logitech micro/headphones just don't cut it soundwise and my Altec-Lansing speakers don't sound a lot better to me. I have a pair of Altec-lansing computer speakers, and I have special EQ settings called something like "shitty little desktop speakers" or some such to make them sound less, well, shitty. H.to be honest, I am the guy who makes the wheels go round, I am the force that keeps the project organized and ongoing. I also print, staple, duplicate CDs, and finance the project. Yes. Right after writing my message, I went to amycd.com and saw that you are "executive producer," which often means "money guy." Some guys go hunting and fishing. I coordinate musicians and artists and website creators and sell CDs. Not a bad hobby. At least it keeps you off the streets. And I do the easy job. Creating music is hard hard hard hard hard. I have a friend, Ted Larson, who is one of those guys who, at a church retreat, can decide at lunch time that he's going to write a song for the campfire that night and do it. He also is a very good music editor -- he made a mix for his anniversary party of "Love Shack" and "Who Let the Dogs Out," if you happen to go for that sort of thing. I also write lyrics. The Grand Machine is the result of my writing, and was inspired by The Time Ships by Brin's buddy S. Baxter. Writing is also hard. Maybe not hard hard hard hard hard, but certainly hard hard hard. My degree's in writing, but not lyrics. The tough part is making it rhythmical (and maybe even rhyming) without making it doggerel. Keep up the hard work, Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
Maru Dubshinki wrote: > On 4/27/05, Robert G. Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ~Maru > Incidentally, not too shabby. Not my favored style, but not bad. On behalf of the artists I thank you very much! xponent Chuckwagon Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
Dave Land wrote: > On Apr 27, 2005, at 3:31 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > >> http://www.cdbaby.com/amycd2 > > You, sir, are a spoiled studio brat. > > The samples sounded about as good as many other MP3s on iTunes on my > PowerBook via a pair of Plantronics Audio30 earbuds. Naturally, any > of > us would prefer to be listening straight of the digital masters > through about 200 lbs of a Crown amplifier and some Tannoy or JBL > studio monitors, but I just don't happen to have that set up here at > my desk. They sound a bit awful over here. My Logitech micro/headphones just don't cut it soundwise and my Altec-Lansing speakers don't sound a lot better to me. > > There are some nice cuts on the CD. What was your role in the > project? > Producer? Engineer? Or what? > H.to be honest, I am the guy who makes the wheels go round, I am the force that keeps the project organized and ongoing. I also print, staple, duplicate CDs, and finance the project. Some guys go hunting and fishing. I coordinate musicians and artists and website creators and sell CDs. And I do the easy job. Creating music is hard hard hard hard hard. I also write lyrics. The Grand Machine is the result of my writing, and was inspired by The Time Ships by Brin's buddy S. Baxter. Our Humble Website: http://www.amycd.com/ xponent Exited maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
On Apr 27, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Dave Land wrote: Naturally, any of us would prefer to be listening straight of the digital masters through about 200 lbs of a Crown amplifier and some Tannoy or JBL studio monitors, but I just don't happen to have that set up here at my desk. Pshht. Peasant. ;) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress "The Seven-Year Mirror" http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
On 4/27/05, Robert G. Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.cdbaby.com/amycd2 > > The album I have been helping to midwife for the last year. > With tinny sounding samples that are supposed to make you have to have > to have this album today! > > I worked my ass off to get this out. You could at least give the tinny > samples a listen. > > xponent > Soon To Be Moderated For Shameless Self Promotion Maru > rob Darn tootin'! The only one supposed to be shamelessly shilling their wares here is Brin. ~Maru Incidentally, not too shabby. Not my favored style, but not bad. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
On Apr 27, 2005, at 3:31 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.cdbaby.com/amycd2 The album I have been helping to midwife for the last year. With tinny sounding samples that are supposed to make you have to have to have this album today! I worked my ass off to get this out. You could at least give the tinny samples a listen. You, sir, are a spoiled studio brat. The samples sounded about as good as many other MP3s on iTunes on my PowerBook via a pair of Plantronics Audio30 earbuds. Naturally, any of us would prefer to be listening straight of the digital masters through about 200 lbs of a Crown amplifier and some Tannoy or JBL studio monitors, but I just don't happen to have that set up here at my desk. There are some nice cuts on the CD. What was your role in the project? Producer? Engineer? Or what? Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
