Re: SuperStorm Worm

2007-10-07 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 6 Oct 2007 at 9:51, Robert Seeberger wrote:

 
 
 http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2007/10/securitymatters_1004
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2xevsm
 
 The Storm worm first appeared at the beginning of the year, hiding in 
 e-mail attachments with the subject line: 230 dead as storm batters 
 Europe. Those who opened the attachment became infected, their 
 computers joining an ever-growing botnet.

snip

Hmmm. Anyone seeing a few parallels with Curious Yellow from 
_Glasshouse_?

Heh.
Dawn Falcon

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Re: SuperStorm Worm

2007-10-07 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 6, 2007, at 8:57 AM, William T Goodall wrote:

 On 6 Oct 2007, at 15:51, Robert Seeberger wrote:

 http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/
 2007/10/securitymatters_1004

 http://tinyurl.com/2xevsm

 The Storm worm first appeared at the beginning of the year, hiding in
 e-mail attachments with the subject line: 230 dead as storm batters
 Europe. Those who opened the attachment became infected, their
 computers joining an ever-growing botnet.

 It vindicates what I've been saying all along: that Windows computers
 are simply too insecure to be allowed to be connected to the public
 networks.

Microsoft's carelessness has cost the world untold billions. If I create
an attractive nuisance on my property that causes harm, I am help
responsible. Why not Microsoft?

Of course, this worm depends on the idiocy of people who open
attachments in emails from people they don't know.

Those people should have their computers confiscated, the hard drives
erased and Linux installed to be given to people who are worthy of
them.

Dave

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Re: SuperStorm Worm

2007-10-07 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Dave Land wrote:

 Of course, this worm depends on the idiocy of people who open
 attachments in emails from people they don't know.

 Those people should have their computers confiscated, the hard drives
 erased and Linux installed to be given to people who are worthy of
 them.

I thought so some time ago. After using Linux for about 7 years, and knowing 
its vulnerabilities, I am glad that Linux is still a minority OS, such that 
evil virusmakers don't bother to attack Linux.

Alberto Monteiro
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Re: SuperStorm Worm

2007-10-07 Thread William T Goodall

On 7 Oct 2007, at 20:53, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote:

 Dave Land wrote:

 Of course, this worm depends on the idiocy of people who open
 attachments in emails from people they don't know.

 Those people should have their computers confiscated, the hard drives
 erased and Linux installed to be given to people who are worthy of
 them.

 I thought so some time ago. After using Linux for about 7 years,  
 and knowing
 its vulnerabilities, I am glad that Linux is still a minority OS,  
 such that
 evil virusmakers don't bother to attack Linux.

They do attack Linux servers because pwning a server is more valuable  
than a desktop machine. There are enormous numbers of attacks on  
servers attempting to use vulnerabilities in misconfigured systems as  
anyone who runs a server and looks at the logfiles can attest. Here's  
a few bad requests from the logs of a (BSD hosted) website I run.


/phpmyadmin/main.php

/pma/main.php

/admin/main.php

/admin/phpmyadmin/main.php

/mysql/main.php

/horde/readme

/myadmin/main.php

/phpmyadmin2/main.php

/admin/phpmyadmin2/main.php

/phpmychat/chat/messagesl.php3

/mysqladmin/main.php

/webadmin/main.php

/admin/myadmin/main.php

/phpmyadmin-2.6.3-rc1/main.php

/admin/sqladmin/main.php

/scgi-bin/awstats/awstats.pl

/admin/db/main.php

/admin/php-my-admin/main.php

/php-my-admin/main.php

/admin/mysql/main.php

/websql/main.php

/admin/phpmyadmin-2.6.3-pl1/main.php

/admin/phpmyadmin-2.2.6/main.php

/phpmyadmin-2.6.3-pl1/main.php

/phpmyadmin-2.2.6/main.php



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Re: SuperStorm Worm

2007-10-06 Thread William T Goodall

On 6 Oct 2007, at 15:51, Robert Seeberger wrote:



 http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/ 
 2007/10/securitymatters_1004

 http://tinyurl.com/2xevsm

 The Storm worm first appeared at the beginning of the year, hiding in
 e-mail attachments with the subject line: 230 dead as storm batters
 Europe. Those who opened the attachment became infected, their
 computers joining an ever-growing botnet.


snip
 Oddly enough, Storm isn't doing much, so far, except gathering
 strength. Aside from continuing to infect other Windows machines and
 attacking particular sites that are attacking it, Storm has only been
 implicated in some pump-and-dump stock scams. There are rumors that
 Storm is leased out to other criminal groups. Other than that,
 nothing.

 Personally, I'm worried about what Storm's creators are planning for
 Phase II.

 By: Bruce Schneier

 ** 
 ***

 Considering the bot-attack that recently isolated Estonia from the net
 for a good while, this probably deserves some attention and a lot of
 investigation into world criminal syndicates. It is not the
 loner-hacker who should be considered a threat.

 xponent

 Awareness Maru

 rob


It vindicates what I've been saying all along: that Windows computers  
are simply too insecure to be allowed to be connected to the public  
networks.

Right Again Maru

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Web  : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
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Our products just aren't engineered for security. - Brian  
Valentine, senior vice president in charge of Microsoft's Windows  
development team.


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