Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-18 Thread Chet Ramey
On 2/18/16 1:10 AM, konsolebox wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Chet Ramey  wrote:
>> On 2/14/16 1:41 AM, konsolebox wrote:
>>> Hi Chet,
>>>
>>> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
>>> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
>>> and discuss it there.
>>
>> There's nothing stopping people from doing that now, and I'd rather
>> discussions take place on this list.
> 
> Well there's no meaning to it unless it's official and that you
> participate in talking about the contributed patches and issues people
> choose to post in there, but I accept your decision.

I have a limited time to read and respond to issues, and I prefer to
funnel those through the official mailing list.

-- 
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 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
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Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-17 Thread konsolebox
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Chet Ramey  wrote:
> On 2/14/16 1:41 AM, konsolebox wrote:
>> Hi Chet,
>>
>> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
>> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
>> and discuss it there.
>
> There's nothing stopping people from doing that now, and I'd rather
> discussions take place on this list.

Well there's no meaning to it unless it's official and that you
participate in talking about the contributed patches and issues people
choose to post in there, but I accept your decision.

-- 
konsolebox



Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-15 Thread Chet Ramey
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On 2/15/16 9:49 AM, Eric Blake wrote:

> In other words, if you DO add a github mirror, discussion of patches
> will still need to take place on this list, and not move to github.

The authoritative place for discussions about bash will remain this
list regardless of whether or not someone sets up a mirror on github.

Chet
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Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-15 Thread Chet Ramey
On 2/14/16 1:41 AM, konsolebox wrote:
> Hi Chet,
> 
> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
> and discuss it there.

There's nothing stopping people from doing that now, and I'd rather
discussions take place on this list.

-- 
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, ITS, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/~chet/



Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-15 Thread Charles Daffern
On 15/02/16 17:53, strom...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 6:19:56 AM UTC-8, Chet Ramey wrote:
>> How does setting up a different place for people to get the code
>> contribute to a software monoculture? 
> github is becoming too popular for free software's own good.
>
> It's to the point that some people feel like if it's not on github, it's not 
> worth looking at.
I think hosting on a site like GitLab or BitBucket might be a good
compromise. It's essentially the same thing: a fancy web interface that
obviates the need for locally checked-out code. GitLab's community
edition is free software, and there are several online instances of that
software separate from GitLab's main website (which runs the nonfree
version).

It's a vain hope of mine that adding popular projects to hosts other
than GitHub might stop people from conflating "git" (the tool) with
"GitHub" (the website). Unfortunately I don't think that will ever happen.

All that said, I don't see what tangible benefit you would get from
mirroring the source repo on any of those sites. I don't think it vastly
improves readability, and since they all lack features like jumping to
symbol definitions, in the case of multiple files it greatly harms
readability compared to bog-standard vim with ctags. The only thing
you'd get out of it really is an issue tracker, and I doubt people are
going to move all discussion to some external website without a good
reason to do so.



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Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-15 Thread John McKown
What's wrong with just using git://git.savannah.gnu.org/bash.git
​ ? Why github.com? Granted, it's popular. Of course, you could simply make
your own fork of the savannah repository on Github yourself. Why expect
Chet to do it? You could do something like:

git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/bash.git
cd bash
git remote add github g...@github.com:konsolebox:/bash.git
git push --mirror github  #assumes you've create bash.git repo

Then, using a CRON table entry, run a daily script similar to:

#!/bin/sh
cd ~/bash
git pull origin && \
git push --mirror github

​


On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 12:41 AM, konsolebox  wrote:

> Hi Chet,
>
> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
> and discuss it there.
>
> --
> konsolebox
>
>


-- 
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Maranatha! <><
John McKown


Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-15 Thread strombrg
On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 6:19:56 AM UTC-8, Chet Ramey wrote:
> On 2/14/16 12:53 PM, strom...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 10:42:37 PM UTC-8, konsolebox wrote:
> >> Hi Chet,
> >>
> >> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
> >> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
> >> and discuss it there.
> > 
> > Chet probably has his own thoughts on this, but IMNSHO, software 
> > monoculture is bad.
> 
> How does setting up a different place for people to get the code contribute
> to a software monoculture?

github is becoming too popular for free software's own good.

It's to the point that some people feel like if it's not on github, it's not 
worth looking at.


Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-15 Thread Eric Blake
On 02/13/2016 11:41 PM, konsolebox wrote:
> Hi Chet,
> 
> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
> and discuss it there.

Add your own mirror.  Nothing is stopping you from doing it.  But the
canonical upstream repo should NOT live on github.com, since that site
actively promotes the use of non-free software.  I don't care if you
want to pull from github, but I do care if you make me try to use
github's add-on features above and beyond what I can already do using
only free software without using github.

In other words, if you DO add a github mirror, discussion of patches
will still need to take place on this list, and not move to github.

-- 
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Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-15 Thread Chet Ramey
On 2/14/16 12:53 PM, strom...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 10:42:37 PM UTC-8, konsolebox wrote:
>> Hi Chet,
>>
>> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
>> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
>> and discuss it there.
> 
> Chet probably has his own thoughts on this, but IMNSHO, software monoculture 
> is bad.

How does setting up a different place for people to get the code contribute
to a software monoculture?

Chet
-- 
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
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Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-14 Thread konsolebox
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:53 AM,   wrote:
> On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 10:42:37 PM UTC-8, konsolebox wrote:
>> Hi Chet,
>>
>> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
>> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
>> and discuss it there.
>
> Chet probably has his own thoughts on this, but IMNSHO, software monoculture 
> is bad.

Perhaps, but it's not like that if you're just adding another
convenient place to contribute and collaborate.

-- 
konsolebox



Re: Add a mirror to github

2016-02-14 Thread strombrg
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 10:42:37 PM UTC-8, konsolebox wrote:
> Hi Chet,
> 
> Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
> would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
> and discuss it there.

Chet probably has his own thoughts on this, but IMNSHO, software monoculture is 
bad.


Add a mirror to github

2016-02-13 Thread konsolebox
Hi Chet,

Please consider adding a mirror of bash's git repo in github.com.  It
would be easier for many people in the community to contribute code
and discuss it there.

-- 
konsolebox