CfP: Microkernel and Component-based OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2024

2023-11-15 Thread Martin Decky

Microkernel and Component-based OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2024
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION

   On-line version of this CfP: http://fosdem.microkernel.info/

   The developers and users of several free and open source
   microkernel-based, unikernel-based and component-based operating
   systems will meet as part of FOSDEM 2024 [1] and will share
   a developer room. The devroom is currently looking for content in
   the form of talks and other activities related to microkernel-based,
   unikernel-based, component-based operating systems and similar areas.

   Possible topics of the devroom include, but are not limited to:

 * introduction of a specific OS or framework
 * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
 * languages, tools and toolchains used
 * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers)
   and programming languages
 * development processes, debugging
 * maintenance, testing and release engineering
 * safety, security and robustness
 * trends and challenges
 * research and open questions
 * community and governance
 * use cases, experiences and status updates
 * best practices and lessons learned
 * demos

   The devroom has been scheduled to Saturday February 3rd 2024 in the
   afternoon (Central European Time).

   This is a call for your participation. We kindly ask you to submit
   your proposals no later than on December 10th 2023 (End of Day,
   Anywhere on Earth). Please use the pretalx [2] web site to submit
   your proposals. Note that this is a new submission system and the
   user accounts from the previous submission system (pentabarf) have
   not been transferred.

   Make sure to select the Microkernel and Component-based OS as the
   track when submitting your proposal and include at least the
   following information:

 * title of your proposal
 * short abstract (one or two paragraphs)
 * duration (at least 15 minutes and no longer than 40 minutes)
 * your full name
 * your short bio

   You can specify your preferred time slot of your proposal and any
   other relevant information. The communication language of the
   devroom is English. Please note that the devroom has been allocated
   only a half of a day this year. Therefore the final decision on the
   duration of the talks will be made by the devroom organizers based
   on the number of accepted proposals.

   The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will
   be announced on December 15th 2023 on the devroom's mailing list [3]
   and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will be
   published on the FOSDEM web site, too.

About the Devroom

   Since the first Microkernel OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2012 [4], this
   devroom has been a part of each following FOSDEM (with slight
   variations of the name). The focus gradually widened to include
   component-based, unikernel-based and other operating systems. By
   now, it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the
   open source operating systems community, a kind of "extended family
   meeting" and it is one of the places where microkernel and unikernel
   enthusiasts meet regularly.

   To this date, over two dozen projects have participated in one way
   or another. Many of the projects face similar challenges but come up
   with partially different solutions. Therefore, the goal of the
   devroom is to bring the various projects together, let them exchange
   ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize.

   As every previous year, the devroom will offer the "stage" both to
   established community members and to newcomers. We like to select
   the talks in an inclusive manner, while staying true to the main
   technical topics (system-level software, broadly speaking) and
   creating a balanced and unbiased schedule. We would like to keep the
   quality bar of the devroom same as in the previous years.

   Presenting at FOSDEM implies that the recordings of the talks will
   be published under Creative Commons license by FOSDEM. By submitting
   a proposal, the speaker agrees to have the talk made available
   publicly indefinitely. For organizational purposes, we also need
   contact information of the speakers of accepted talks.

Microkernel Dinner

   It has also become a habit that the devroom participants dine
   together somewhere in Brussels. The year 2024 will not be any
   different, so there is going to be a dinner on Saturday night. We
   will inform you about the exact arrangements later.

About FOSDEM

   FOSDEM [5] is a two-day conference organized by volunteers to
   promote the widespread use of free and open source software. FOSDEM
   is widely recognized as one of the largest and best such events
   worldwide. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free and open source
   software and hardware projects and offers a platform for people to
   collaborate.

   To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer ro

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Damien Zammit, le lun. 27 déc. 2021 13:32:44 +1100, a ecrit:
> On 14/12/21 8:09 am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Almudena Garcia, le lun. 13 déc. 2021 17:04:06 +0100, a ecrit:
> >>> However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be.  Can you 
> >>> help
> >> suggest what I can talk about?
> >> Maybe could be interesting talk about the Rumpkernel implementation: 
> >> advantages
> >> of this (new drivers, by example), the gnumach modifications done for this
> >> task, and the current status.
> > 
> > I was thinking about this kind of things yes: the rumpdisk-based
> > boot-up, involving a bootstrap pci-arbiter, the acpi translator, etc.
> 
> I have put in a proposal for a talk at FOSDEM'22:
> 
> "A practical solution for GNU/Hurd's lack of drivers: NetBSD's rumpkernel 
> framework"

Great :D

> I will prerecord the talk in the next couple of weeks.

Perhaps wait for the approval of the talk?

Samuel



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-26 Thread Damien Zammit
Hi all,

On 14/12/21 8:09 am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Almudena Garcia, le lun. 13 déc. 2021 17:04:06 +0100, a ecrit:
>>> However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be.  Can you help
>> suggest what I can talk about?
>> Maybe could be interesting talk about the Rumpkernel implementation: 
>> advantages
>> of this (new drivers, by example), the gnumach modifications done for this
>> task, and the current status.
> 
> I was thinking about this kind of things yes: the rumpdisk-based
> boot-up, involving a bootstrap pci-arbiter, the acpi translator, etc.

I have put in a proposal for a talk at FOSDEM'22:

"A practical solution for GNU/Hurd's lack of drivers: NetBSD's rumpkernel 
framework"

I will prerecord the talk in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks,
Damien



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-13 Thread jbranso
December 12, 2021 2:18 AM, "Tobias Platen"  wrote:

> On Sat, 2021-12-11 at 22:15 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> 
>> Anybody interested in giving a talk?
>> 
>> Damien perhaps? ;)
> 
> maybe me, some time ago I started porting GNUmach to non-x86
> architectures, including 64bit PowerPC (Talos II) and ARM (BeagleBone

Really?  That sounds awesome! How far have you gotten?  And how
difficult would it be to get glibc up to date for those other
archs?

> black). I also experimented converting GNUmach into a LKM as Darling
> does. https://github.com/darlinghq/darling-newlkm

Interesting.  That would be cool to be able to use the Hurd straight
from GNU/Linux.

> 
> I'm also a Libre Music Producer, I mainly use Lilypond with
> festival.ly, MBROLA as an instrument and I am the developer
> of QTAU, a piano roll editor for singing synthesis.
>> Samuel



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Almudena Garcia, le lun. 13 déc. 2021 17:04:06 +0100, a ecrit:
> > However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be.  Can you help
> suggest what I can talk about?
> Maybe could be interesting talk about the Rumpkernel implementation: 
> advantages
> of this (new drivers, by example), the gnumach modifications done for this
> task, and the current status.

I was thinking about this kind of things yes: the rumpdisk-based
boot-up, involving a bootstrap pci-arbiter, the acpi translator, etc.

Samuel



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-13 Thread Almudena Garcia
> However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be.  Can you
help suggest what I can talk about?
Maybe could be interesting talk about the Rumpkernel implementation:
advantages of this (new drivers, by example), the gnumach modifications
done for this task, and the current status.

El lun, 13 dic 2021 a las 8:40, Damien Zammit ()
escribió:

> Hi Samuel,
>
> On 12/12/21 8:15 am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Anybody interested in giving a talk?
> >
> > Damien perhaps? ;)
>
> I am interested in giving a pre-prepared talk, I'd like to gain experience
> creating screencast videos using free software.
>
> However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be.  Can you
> help suggest what I can talk about?
> Perhaps a walkthrough of my Hurd development environment with screencast
> and small webcam video with my face talking?
>
> I have a good microphone and audio interface, but my webcam is not so
> good, so probably screencast is a good option.
>
> I read that OBS studio is a good way to create such videos.
>
> Damien
>
>


Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-12 Thread Tobias Platen
On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 18:38 +1100, Damien Zammit wrote:
> Hi Samuel,
> 
> On 12/12/21 8:15 am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Anybody interested in giving a talk?
> > 
> > Damien perhaps? ;)
> 
> I am interested in giving a pre-prepared talk, I'd like to gain
> experience creating screencast videos using free software.
> 
> However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be.  Can
> you help suggest what I can talk about?
> Perhaps a walkthrough of my Hurd development environment with
> screencast and small webcam video with my face talking?
> 
> I have a good microphone and audio interface, but my webcam is not so
> good, so probably screencast is a good option.
> 
> I read that OBS studio is a good way to create such videos.
I have been using OBS studio, last year to record a video for guix
days.

Tobias
> 
> Damien
> 





Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-12 Thread Damien Zammit
Hi Samuel,

On 12/12/21 8:15 am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Anybody interested in giving a talk?
> 
> Damien perhaps? ;)

I am interested in giving a pre-prepared talk, I'd like to gain experience 
creating screencast videos using free software.

However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be.  Can you help 
suggest what I can talk about?
Perhaps a walkthrough of my Hurd development environment with screencast and 
small webcam video with my face talking?

I have a good microphone and audio interface, but my webcam is not so good, so 
probably screencast is a good option.

I read that OBS studio is a good way to create such videos.

Damien



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-11 Thread Tobias Platen
On Sat, 2021-12-11 at 22:15 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Anybody interested in giving a talk?
> 
> Damien perhaps? ;)
maybe me, some time ago I started porting GNUmach to non-x86
architectures, including 64bit PowerPC (Talos II) and ARM (BeagleBone
black). I also experimented converting GNUmach into a LKM as Darling
does. https://github.com/darlinghq/darling-newlkm

I'm also a Libre Music Producer, I mainly use Lilypond with
festival.ly, MBROLA as an instrument and I am the developer
of QTAU, a piano roll editor for singing synthesis.
> 
> Samuel





Fwd: FOSDEM 2022

2021-12-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Anybody interested in giving a talk?

Damien perhaps? ;)

Samuel
--- Begin Message ---
Dear Samual,

me and Martin Decky are organizing the microkernel devroom 2022. Maybe
you or someone involved in GNU Hurd has some updates to share.

Kind regards,

Sebastian

-- 
Sebastian Sumpf
Genode Labs

http://www.genode-labs.com · http://genode.org

Genode Labs GmbH · Amtsgericht Dresden · HRB 28424 · Sitz Dresden
Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske, Christian Helmuth



Microkernel and Component-based OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2022
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION

   On-line version of this CfP: http://fosdem.microkernel.info/

   The developers and users of several free and open source
   microkernel-based and component-based operating systems will meet
   on-line as part of FOSDEM 2022 [1] and will share a developer room.
   The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks and
   activities related to the area of microkernel-based, unikernel-based,
   component-based operating systems and similar topics.

   The devroom has been preliminarily scheduled to Saturday February 5th
   2022. The devroom will take place during European day hours.

   Possible topics of the devroom include, but are not limited to:

 * introduction of a specific OS or framework
 * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
 * languages, tools and toolchains used
 * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) and
   programming languages
 * development processes, debugging
 * maintenance, testing and release engineering
 * safety, security and robustness
 * trends and challenges
 * research and open questions
 * community and governance
 * use cases, experiences and status updates
 * best practices and lessons learned
 * demos

   This is a call for your participation. We kindly ask you to submit
   your proposals no later than on December 28th 2021. Please use the
   Pentabarf web site [2] to submit your proposals. If you already have
   a user account in Pentabarf, please do not create a new one.

   Addtionally, make sure to select the Microkernel and Component-based
   OS Devroom as the track when submitting your talk and include at
   least the following information in your proposal:

 * title of your talk
 * your full name
 * short abstract of your talk (one or two paragraphs)
 * duration of your talk (at least 20 minutes and no longer than 50
   minutes)
 * your short bio
 * your photo

   The talks will be pre-recorded in advance in January and streamed
   automatically during the event. This means that you will need to
   complete and submit your talk recording by January 15th 2022.
   However, each speaker should be also present on-line just after the
   streaming of their talk for a live Q You can specify your prefered
   time slot of your talk. The communication language of the devroom is
   English.

   The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
   announced on December 31st 2021 on the devroom's mailing list [3] and
   the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be
   published on the FOSDEM web site.

   For any comments, questions and suggestions (e.g. suggestions for a
   different type of event during the devroom), please do not hesitate
   to use the devroom's mailing list [3].

 About the Devroom

   Since the first Microkernel OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2012 [4], this
   devroom has been a part of each following FOSDEM (with slight
   variations of the name). The focus gradually widened to include
   component-based, unikernel-based and other operating systems. By now,
   it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the open
   source operating systems community and it is one of the few places
   where microkernel enthusiasts and people with different views on how
   operating systems should work meet regularly.

   To this date, over a dozen projects have participated in one way or
   another. Many of the projects face similar challenges but come up
   with partially different solutions. Therefore, the goal of the
   devroom is to bring the various projects together, let them exchange
   ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize.

 Extraordinary Circumstances in 2022 (Again)

   Due to the extraordinary mode of organization of FOSDEM 2022 (being
   an on-line event again), the devroom talks will be required to be
   pre-recorded in January and streamed during the event (with a live
   Q).

   The talk videos will be published under Creative Commons license by
   FOSDEM. By submitting a recorded talk, the speaker agrees to have it
   made available publicly indefinitively. For organizational purposes,
   we also need contact information of the speakers of accepted talks.

   Please check the official CfP page [5] of the devroom regularly. We
   will keep updating it as technical guidelines will be set by the
   FOSDEM organizers.

 Microkernel

Re: CfP: FOSDEM 2021 - Microkernel Devroom

2020-12-08 Thread Almudena Garcia
This year, Hurd has got many awesome advances, like Rumpkernel.
Maybe, it could be interesting that some developers explain their progress
in the work during this year.


El mar, 8 dic 2020 a las 9:43, Martin Decky () escribió:

> Microkernel Devroom at FOSDEM 2021
> CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
>
> On-line version of this CfP: http://fosdem.microkernel.info/
>
> The developers and users of several free and open source
> microkernel-based operating systems will meet on-line as part of
> FOSDEM 2021 [1] and will share a developer room. The devroom is
> currently looking for content in the form of talks and activities
> related to the area of microkernel-based, unikernel-based,
> component-based operating systems and similar topics.
>
> The devroom has been preliminarily scheduled to Saturday February 6th
> 2021. The devroom will take place during European day hours.
>
> Possible topics of the devroom include, but are not limited to:
>
>   * introduction of a specific OS or framework
>   * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
>   * used languages, tools and toolchains
>   * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers)
>   * enabling support for programming languages
>   * development processes, debugging
>   * maintenance, testing and release engineering
>   * security and robustness
>   * trends and challenges
>   * community and governance
>   * use cases, experiences and status updates
>   * best practices, lessons learned and demos
>
> This is a call for your participation. We kindly ask you to submit
> your proposals no later than on December 26th 2020. Please use the
> Pentabarf website [2] to submit your proposals. If you already have
> a user account in Pentabarf, please do not create a new one.
>
> Please make sure to select the Microkernel devroom as the track when
> submitting your talk and include at least the following information
> in your proposal:
>
>   * title of your talk
>   * your full name
>   * short abstract of your talk (one or two paragraphs)
>   * duration of your talk (at least 20 minutes and no longer than 50
> minutes), excluding a Q part
>   * your short bio
>   * your photo
>
> The talks will be pre-recorded in advance in January and streamed
> during the event. This means that you will need to complete and
> submit your talk by around mid January. However, each speaker should
> be also present on-line just after the streaming of the talk for
> a live Q You can specify your prefered time slot of your talk.
> The communication language of the devroom is English.
>
> The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
> announced on December 31st 2020 on the devroom's mailing list [3] and
> the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be
> published on the FOSDEM website.
>
> You are also invited to send any other suggestions for what you want
> to see or do at the devroom to the mailing list.
>
>   About the Devroom
>
> Since the first Microkernel devroom at FOSDEM 2012 [4], this devroom
> has been part of each following FOSDEM. The focus gradually widened
> to include component-based and unikernel-based operating systems. By
> now it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the
> community to meet there. To this date, over a dozen projects have
> participated in one way or another. Each of the projects face similar
> challenges but come up with partially different solutions. Therefore,
> the goal of the devroom is to bring the various projects together,
> let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize.
>
>   Extraordinary Circumstances in 2021
>
> Due to the extraordinary mode of organization of FOSDEM 2021 (being
> an on-line event for the first time), many practical aspects of the
> devroom are still in the process of determination. For example, the
> devroom talks will be required to be pre-recorded in January and
> streamed during the event (with a live Q), but the technical
> details are still sketchy at this moment.
>
> The talk videos will be published under Creative Commons license by
> FOSDEM. By submitting a recorded talk, the speaker agrees to have it
> made available publicly indefinitively. For organizational purposes,
> we also need contact information of the speakers of accepted talks.
>
> Please check the official CfP page [5] of our devroom regularly. We
> will keep updating it as new guidelines will be determined by the
>   

CfP: FOSDEM 2021 - Microkernel Devroom

2020-12-08 Thread Martin Decky

Microkernel Devroom at FOSDEM 2021
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION

   On-line version of this CfP: http://fosdem.microkernel.info/

   The developers and users of several free and open source
   microkernel-based operating systems will meet on-line as part of
   FOSDEM 2021 [1] and will share a developer room. The devroom is
   currently looking for content in the form of talks and activities
   related to the area of microkernel-based, unikernel-based,
   component-based operating systems and similar topics.

   The devroom has been preliminarily scheduled to Saturday February 6th
   2021. The devroom will take place during European day hours.

   Possible topics of the devroom include, but are not limited to:

 * introduction of a specific OS or framework
 * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
 * used languages, tools and toolchains
 * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers)
 * enabling support for programming languages
 * development processes, debugging
 * maintenance, testing and release engineering
 * security and robustness
 * trends and challenges
 * community and governance
 * use cases, experiences and status updates
 * best practices, lessons learned and demos

   This is a call for your participation. We kindly ask you to submit
   your proposals no later than on December 26th 2020. Please use the
   Pentabarf website [2] to submit your proposals. If you already have
   a user account in Pentabarf, please do not create a new one.

   Please make sure to select the Microkernel devroom as the track when
   submitting your talk and include at least the following information
   in your proposal:

 * title of your talk
 * your full name
 * short abstract of your talk (one or two paragraphs)
 * duration of your talk (at least 20 minutes and no longer than 50
   minutes), excluding a Q part
 * your short bio
 * your photo

   The talks will be pre-recorded in advance in January and streamed
   during the event. This means that you will need to complete and
   submit your talk by around mid January. However, each speaker should
   be also present on-line just after the streaming of the talk for
   a live Q You can specify your prefered time slot of your talk.
   The communication language of the devroom is English.

   The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
   announced on December 31st 2020 on the devroom's mailing list [3] and
   the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be
   published on the FOSDEM website.

   You are also invited to send any other suggestions for what you want
   to see or do at the devroom to the mailing list.

 About the Devroom

   Since the first Microkernel devroom at FOSDEM 2012 [4], this devroom
   has been part of each following FOSDEM. The focus gradually widened
   to include component-based and unikernel-based operating systems. By
   now it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the
   community to meet there. To this date, over a dozen projects have
   participated in one way or another. Each of the projects face similar
   challenges but come up with partially different solutions. Therefore,
   the goal of the devroom is to bring the various projects together,
   let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize.

 Extraordinary Circumstances in 2021

   Due to the extraordinary mode of organization of FOSDEM 2021 (being
   an on-line event for the first time), many practical aspects of the
   devroom are still in the process of determination. For example, the
   devroom talks will be required to be pre-recorded in January and
   streamed during the event (with a live Q), but the technical
   details are still sketchy at this moment.

   The talk videos will be published under Creative Commons license by
   FOSDEM. By submitting a recorded talk, the speaker agrees to have it
   made available publicly indefinitively. For organizational purposes,
   we also need contact information of the speakers of accepted talks.

   Please check the official CfP page [5] of our devroom regularly. We
   will keep updating it as new guidelines will be determined by the
   FOSDEM organizers.

   Sadly, it will not be possible to arrange our traditional microkernel
   dinner and other in-person social gatherings in Brussels this time.
   However, we plan to organize an on-line replacement. The details will
   be announced later in January.

   On the other hand, the on-line nature of the devroom allows us to
   "overflow" to a second day in case we receive a substatial number of
   quality proposals.

 About FOSDEM

   FOSDEM [6] is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the
   widespread use of free and open source software. FOSDEM is widely
   recognised as one of the best such conferences worldwide. FOSDEM
   covers a wide spectrum of free and open source software an

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-12-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joshua Branson, le jeu. 29 nov. 2018 08:11:05 -0500, a ecrit:
> Samuel Thibault  writes:
> > Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit:
> >> why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year.
> >
> > I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good
> > to see various people take the microphone :)
> 
> Just to help you brain storm...And forgive me if these are silly ideas.

Well, these are not silly ideas at all, but for a talk one needs to
have a main story to tell, not only a collection of small stories, and
I'm afraid I have already covered what I can talk about (flexible way
to have hardware support, flexibility for the user), and Justus talked
about virtualization two years ago.

> Maybe you could demo [...]

Demos take a very long time to make them work. Unless people help me
with it (understand: give me a step-by-step process that I'll be able to
just follow) I won't be able to get the time to make them work.

> Perhaps you could outline a roadmap.

Mmm. In the end that's what I could think of from your ideas. I have
thus proposed:

“
A roadmap for the Hurd?

Most people don't realize it, but the Hurd system is actually well
established. Between 75% and 80% of Debian official packages do build
fine, it has mainstream gcc/glibc/llvm support, go and rust ports are
ongoing, it can be installed with the Debian installer and GuixSD and
Arch ports are ongoing...

Yet not so much has been happening within the Hurd itself in the past
couple of years. We have notably added a PCI arbiter, which allows for
both flexible and safe PCI access for end users, and some basic ACPI
support is ongoing. But many exciting features could be achieved with a
bit of work.

This talk will discuss some of these promising features, to give a sort
of ideas roadmap for contributions. Some have implementation sketches
which just need to be polished to be more production-ready, such as
httpfs, mboxfs, or writing translators in more high-level languages
than C. Other features are at early stage, such as adding sound support
through rump, getting complete rid of disk drivers from the kernel by
moving them to userland, or also getting valgrind support. I will also
discuss some promising ideas, such as using libguestfs to get support
for more filesystems.
”

Now, that being written, I very well remember feedback from previous
talks. Basically the question was "Cool project! How do I start?" I
would point to the contribution page of the wiki, and notably its "Small
hack entries", but apparently it is way not detailed enough for people
to give them a try. Obviously, ideally enough I'd have time to develop
them, but I simply don't have it. I mean, for each of these items,
giving more details is not just a matter of writing them, but looking
around what needs to be done, where, which RPCs, etc. I don't have
enough time for that. So, while I'll be happy to give this talk, unless
the community takes a stab at reworking the contribution page into
workable items, I'm afraid it will not drag much more than the previous
years.

Samuel



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-11-29 Thread Joshua Branson
Almudena Garcia  writes:

> May Damien could talk about their ACPI translator project. Or Joshua about 
> their wiki update work.

I'm flattered that you mentioned me, but is wiki edits really something
that people will want to hear about?  It would probably end up being a
meta talk.  "You don't have to be a developer to contribute".

I'm also probably not going to FOSDEM.  I'd rather go to libreplanet.
It's closer to me and will probably be a little cheaper.  Though I do
want to go to FOSDEM someday!

Thanks,

Joshua

>
> El mié., 28 nov. 2018 a las 14:46, Samuel Thibault 
> () escribió:
>
>  Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit:
>  > why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year.
>
>  I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good
>  to see various people take the microphone :)
>
>  Samuel



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-11-29 Thread Joshua Branson
Samuel Thibault  writes:

> Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit:
>> why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year.
>
> I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good
> to see various people take the microphone :)

Just to help you brain storm...And forgive me if these are silly ideas.

Maybe you could mention some nearly finished or half finished work that
people should try to finish?  like the ext3fs project, perl & python
support.  Someone could finish the valgrind port.  I know it was a gsoc,
but I'm not certain how far the student got...

Perhaps you could outline a roadmap.

Maybe you could mention what's the most crucial gsoc project.

Maybe you could demo a python, java, or lisp translator.  I have a
feeling the port for those are not complete, but it would be cool to
show a translator running in something other than C.  :)

You could mention recent news items:
- You could mention the recent LLVM supporting the GNU/Hurd.
- ArchHurd started up again.
- the recent merge of PCI arbiter

Maybe you could demo guix/shepherd running on the Hurd.  It would
actually be cool to see a guix config file specifying a GNU/Hurd
translator.  Something like

(operating-system
  (translator
(ftpfs
  (user samuel)
  (mount-point ftp:

Perhaps you could mention some of the other ways to run the Hurd besides
qemu.  Maybe you could demo the Xen port/show people how they can run
GNU/Linux and the Hurd at the same time on any computer that supports
Xen.  (Am I correct in thinking that this is possible?)

Perhaps you could show people where/how they could set up a GNU/Hurd
server, with which to play.  Maybe give a few use cases where a GNU/Hurd
server is more flexible than GNU/Linux.

Perhaps you could demo some translators: mboxfs, xmlfs, jfs, run, etc.
I suppose that the jfs is in a sad state, seeing as it's in hurd extras.
And it's only read-only.  ah.  I didn't know that.  So technically the
Hurd does have a "modern-ish" journal file system.

Maybe you could mention libguestfs.  We could build translators out of
that...Not everybody has heard of that.

Would Richard by mad if we mentioned x15?  You could mention how we are
pulling ideas from it.



>
> Samuel



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-11-28 Thread Almudena Garcia
May Damien could talk about their ACPI translator project. Or Joshua about
their wiki update work.

El mié., 28 nov. 2018 a las 14:46, Samuel Thibault ()
escribió:

> Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit:
> > why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year.
>
> I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good
> to see various people take the microphone :)
>
> Samuel
>


Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-11-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit:
> why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year.

I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good
to see various people take the microphone :)

Samuel



Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-11-28 Thread Almudena Garcia
why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year.

I can't talk yet: my SMP project is in a draft stage, and I don't enough
information about this.
This edition is too early to talk about my project.

If my develop goes well, may I will can talk about this in next edition, in
2020 ;)


El mié., 28 nov. 2018 a las 1:46, Samuel Thibault (<
samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org>) escribió:

> Hello,
>
> So, any volunteer for a Hurd talk at FOSDEM?
>
> Samuel
>
> Almudena Garcia, le ven. 12 oct. 2018 23:24:37 +0200, a ecrit:
> >
> > Forwarded message to bug-hurd list
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Martin Stein <[1]martin.st...@genode-labs.com>
> > Date: vie., 12 oct. 2018 a las 22:47
> > Subject: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
> > To: <[2]help-h...@gnu.org>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm Martin from Genode Labs, Dresden. We're organizing the "Microkernels
> > and component-based OS" developer room of the FOSDEM 2019 and thought
> > that maybe the GNU Hurd community could be interested in participating
> > in this Devroom. What do you think? I was not sure about which of your
> > mailing lists to address, so, would you mind to redirect this request to
> > the one that is most appropriate?
> >
> > I'm looking forward to hear from you!
> > Best wishes,
> > Martin
> >
> > - FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room -
> >
> > FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels and Component-based OSes devroom
> > CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
> >
> >
> > The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based
> operating
> > systems will meet at FOSDEM 2019 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share
> a
> > developer room on Sunday February 03, 2019 [2].  The devroom is currently
> > looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the
> > area of
> > microkernel-, unikernel-, and componenent-based operating systems.
> Possible
> > topics include, but are not limited to:
> >
> >  * introduction of a specific OS or framework
> >  * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
> >  * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers)
> >  * used languages and tools
> >  * maintenance and testing
> >  * security and robustness
> >  * trends and challenges
> >  * use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos
> >
> > Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals. You do
> > not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt,
> > please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a
> > talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would
> > like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the
> > mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December the 1st 2018.
> >
> > Make sure to include the following in your proposal:
> >
> >  * title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
> >  * your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
> >  * a short abstract (one or two paragraphs)
> >  * duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 55 min)
> >
> > The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
> > announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the
> > speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published
> > on the FOSDEM website.
> >
> >
> > About FOSDEM
> >
> > FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the
> > widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the
> > beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the
> > best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free
> > and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to
> > collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms)
> > with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet
> > and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss,
> > hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and
> > discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks,
> > lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year,
> > FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus.
> > Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers
> > gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary.
> >
> >
> > About th

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-11-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

So, any volunteer for a Hurd talk at FOSDEM?

Samuel

Almudena Garcia, le ven. 12 oct. 2018 23:24:37 +0200, a ecrit:
> 
> Forwarded message to bug-hurd list
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Martin Stein <[1]martin.st...@genode-labs.com>
> Date: vie., 12 oct. 2018 a las 22:47
> Subject: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
> To: <[2]help-h...@gnu.org>
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm Martin from Genode Labs, Dresden. We're organizing the "Microkernels
> and component-based OS" developer room of the FOSDEM 2019 and thought
> that maybe the GNU Hurd community could be interested in participating
> in this Devroom. What do you think? I was not sure about which of your
> mailing lists to address, so, would you mind to redirect this request to
> the one that is most appropriate?
> 
> I'm looking forward to hear from you!
> Best wishes,
> Martin
> 
> - FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room -
> 
> FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels and Component-based OSes devroom
> CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
> 
> 
> The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based operating
> systems will meet at FOSDEM 2019 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share a
> developer room on Sunday February 03, 2019 [2].  The devroom is currently
> looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the
> area of
> microkernel-, unikernel-, and componenent-based operating systems. Possible
> topics include, but are not limited to:
> 
>  * introduction of a specific OS or framework
>  * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
>  * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers)
>  * used languages and tools
>  * maintenance and testing
>  * security and robustness
>  * trends and challenges
>  * use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos
> 
> Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals. You do
> not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt,
> please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a
> talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would
> like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the
> mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December the 1st 2018.
> 
> Make sure to include the following in your proposal:
> 
>  * title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
>  * your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
>  * a short abstract (one or two paragraphs)
>  * duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 55 min)
> 
> The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
> announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the
> speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published
> on the FOSDEM website.
> 
> 
> About FOSDEM
> 
> FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the
> widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the
> beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the
> best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free
> and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to
> collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms)
> with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet
> and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss,
> hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and
> discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks,
> lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year,
> FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus.
> Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers
> gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary.
> 
> 
> About the devroom
> 
> Since the first Microkernel devroom in 2012 this devroom has been part of
> each following FOSDEM. By now it has become a somewhat institutionalized
> tradition for the micro kernel community to meet there; to this date over
> a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Each of the
> projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different
> solutions. Therefore, the goal of the Microkernel devroom is to bring the
> various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and
> socialize.
> 
> 
> Social events
> 
> It also has become a habit that the microkernel projects dine together
> somewhere in Brussels. The year 2019 will not be any different, so there is
> going to be a microkernel family dinner on Saturday night. We try place a
> reservation, so

Re: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-10-14 Thread Joshua Branson
Martin Stein  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I'm Martin from Genode Labs, Dresden. We're organizing the "Microkernels
> and component-based OS" developer room of the FOSDEM 2019 and thought
> that maybe the GNU Hurd community could be interested in participating
> in this Devroom. What do you think? I was not sure about which of your
> mailing lists to address, so, would you mind to redirect this request to
> the one that is most appropriate?

Just FYI, this is the best emailing list to contact the Hurd
developers.  I'm not one of them though.  :(  

>
> I'm looking forward to hear from you!
> Best wishes,
> Martin
>
> - FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room -
>
> FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels and Component-based OSes devroom
> CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
>
>
> The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based operating
> systems will meet at FOSDEM 2019 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share a
> developer room on Sunday February 03, 2019 [2].  The devroom is currently
> looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the
> area of
> microkernel-, unikernel-, and componenent-based operating systems. Possible
> topics include, but are not limited to:
>
>  * introduction of a specific OS or framework
>  * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
>  * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers)
>  * used languages and tools
>  * maintenance and testing
>  * security and robustness
>  * trends and challenges
>  * use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos
>
> Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals. You do
> not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt,
> please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a
> talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would
> like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the
> mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December the 1st 2018.
>
> Make sure to include the following in your proposal:
>
>  * title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
>  * your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
>  * a short abstract (one or two paragraphs)
>  * duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 55 min)
>
> The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
> announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the
> speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published
> on the FOSDEM website.
>
>
> About FOSDEM
>
> FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the
> widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the
> beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the
> best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free
> and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to
> collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms)
> with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet
> and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss,
> hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and
> discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks,
> lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year,
> FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus.
> Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers
> gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary.
>
>
> About the devroom
>
> Since the first Microkernel devroom in 2012 this devroom has been part of
> each following FOSDEM. By now it has become a somewhat institutionalized
> tradition for the micro kernel community to meet there; to this date over
> a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Each of the
> projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different
> solutions. Therefore, the goal of the Microkernel devroom is to bring the
> various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and
> socialize.
>
>
> Social events
>
> It also has become a habit that the microkernel projects dine together
> somewhere in Brussels. The year 2019 will not be any different, so there is
> going to be a microkernel family dinner on Saturday night. We try place a
> reservation, so we will inform you about the exact location and time later.
> Consult the FOSDEM web and other projects for additional social events such
> as the famous FOSDEM-organized Friday Beer Event and the FOSDEM-arranged
> free sightseeing tours for spouses.
>
>
> Important dates recap
>
&

FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2018-10-12 Thread Martin Stein
Hi,

I'm Martin from Genode Labs, Dresden. We're organizing the "Microkernels
and component-based OS" developer room of the FOSDEM 2019 and thought
that maybe the GNU Hurd community could be interested in participating
in this Devroom. What do you think? I was not sure about which of your
mailing lists to address, so, would you mind to redirect this request to
the one that is most appropriate?

I'm looking forward to hear from you!
Best wishes,
Martin

----- FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room -----

FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels and Component-based OSes devroom
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION


The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based operating
systems will meet at FOSDEM 2019 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share a
developer room on Sunday February 03, 2019 [2].  The devroom is currently
looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the
area of
microkernel-, unikernel-, and componenent-based operating systems. Possible
topics include, but are not limited to:

 * introduction of a specific OS or framework
 * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
 * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers)
 * used languages and tools
 * maintenance and testing
 * security and robustness
 * trends and challenges
 * use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos

Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals. You do
not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt,
please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a
talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would
like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the
mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December the 1st 2018.

Make sure to include the following in your proposal:

 * title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
 * your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
 * a short abstract (one or two paragraphs)
 * duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 55 min)

The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the
speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published
on the FOSDEM website.


About FOSDEM

FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the
widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the
beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the
best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free
and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to
collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms)
with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet
and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss,
hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and
discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks,
lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year,
FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus.
Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers
gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary.


About the devroom

Since the first Microkernel devroom in 2012 this devroom has been part of
each following FOSDEM. By now it has become a somewhat institutionalized
tradition for the micro kernel community to meet there; to this date over
a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Each of the
projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different
solutions. Therefore, the goal of the Microkernel devroom is to bring the
various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and
socialize.


Social events

It also has become a habit that the microkernel projects dine together
somewhere in Brussels. The year 2019 will not be any different, so there is
going to be a microkernel family dinner on Saturday night. We try place a
reservation, so we will inform you about the exact location and time later.
Consult the FOSDEM web and other projects for additional social events such
as the famous FOSDEM-organized Friday Beer Event and the FOSDEM-arranged
free sightseeing tours for spouses.


Important dates recap

* 01.12.2018: Deadline for submissions
* 15.12.2018: Schedule published and speakers notified of acceptance
* 03.02.2019: The devroom takes places


Links

[1] http://fosdem.org
[2] https://fosdem.org/2019/practical/transportation
[3] https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM19
[4] https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom


See you all at FOSDEM!



FOSDEM 2018 - Microkernels developer room - CfP

2017-10-09 Thread Jakub Jermar
FOSDEM 2018 - Microkernels developer room
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION


The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based
operating systems will meet at FOSDEM 2018 [1] in Brussels, Belgium
and will share a developer room on Saturday of February 3, 2018 [2].
The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks and
activities related to the area of microkernel-based operating systems.
Possible topics include, but are not limited to:

* Introduction of a specific OS or framework
* Design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS
* Enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers)
* Used languages and tools
* Maintenance and testing
* Security and robustness
* Trends and challenges
* Use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos

Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals and file it
under the track “Microkernels devroom”. You do not need to create a new
account if you already have one. When in doubt, please use the devroom
mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a talk yourself, you may
still send suggestions for what else you would like to see, or do in the
devroom. Please send your suggestions to the mailing list. The deadline
for your proposal is on December 8.

Make sure to include the following in your proposal:

* Title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
* Your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
* A short abstract (one or two paragraphs)
* Duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 45 min)

The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the
speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be
published on the FOSDEM website.


About FOSDEM

FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the
widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the
beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the
best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free
and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to
collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms)
with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet
and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss,
hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and
discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks,
lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year,
FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus.
Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers
gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary.


About the devroom

Since the first Microkernel devroom in 2012 this devroom has been part
of each following FOSDEM. By now it has become a somewhat
institutionalized tradition for the microkernel community to meet there;
to this date over a dozen projects have participated in one way or
another. Each of the projects face similar challenges but come up with
partially different solutions. Therefore, the goal of the Microkernel
devroom is to bring the various projects together, let them exchange
ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize.


Social events

It also has become a habit that the microkernel projects dine together
somewhere in downtown Brussels after the devroom closes. The year 2018
will not be any different, so there is going to be a microkernel family
dinner on Saturday night. The exact location and time will be specified
later. Consult the FOSDEM web and other projects for additional social
events such as the famous FOSDEM-organized Friday Beer Event and the
FOSDEM-arranged free sightseeing tours for spouses.


Important dates recap

* 08.12.2017: Deadline for submissions
* 15.12.2017: Schedule published and speakers notified of acceptance
* 03.02.2018: The devroom takes places


Links

[1] http://fosdem.org/
[2] https://fosdem.org/2018/practical/transportation/
[3] https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM18
[4] https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom


See you all at FOSDEM!



Re: fosdem talk?

2016-01-29 Thread Manolis Ragkousis
Well the bulk of the work has been done and Guix does run on Hurd.

It is still ongoing but now I am mostly solving per package problems and
eliminating Linuxism in Guix now but I am not sure if this is enough for
another gsoc. We can talk about it tomorrow.

Btw Samuel I have a talk tomorrow at 10:50 about my GSoC work. Any Hurd
guy/girl available at that time please come. :)

Manolis

P.S. excuse me if this mail contains any html, I am sending it from my
smartphone.


Re: fosdem talk?

2016-01-29 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Hello,

Michael Banck writes:

> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 01:57:10AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>
> [...]
>
> Also, there was the Guix on Hurd GSoC project
>
> I guess there are no real ideas for the next GSoC, but if there are, it
> might interest/motivate some in the audience to hear about it.

I may be mistaken, and Manolis may be in a better space to comment on
this than me, but I think Guix on Hurd is ongoing and possibly GSoC for
next year to?

Cheers,

Alex



Re: fosdem talk?

2016-01-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 01:57:10AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> That's when I miss the nice quarterly reports we used to have: what's
> new since last FOSDEM?
> 
> For now I have only noted:
> 
> Fixed native fakeroot
> Various optimizations
> - Node cache
> - Lockless reference counting
> - IPC table→radix tree
> - Kernel memory management
> New rpcscan tool

On a more top-level view, we had the following releases:

GNU Hurd 0.6, GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.5, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.5, GNU
MIG 1.6 (not sure it makes sense to highlight the 0.6/1.5 changes, as I
guess those were talked about last year?)

Debian GNU/Hurd 2015

Also, there was the Guix on Hurd GSoC project

I guess there are no real ideas for the next GSoC, but if there are, it
might interest/motivate some in the audience to hear about it.


Michael



Re: fosdem talk?

2016-01-29 Thread svante.signell


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 Original message 
From: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thiba...@gnu.org> 
Date: 28/01/2016  23:57  (GMT-01:00) 
To: bug-hurd@gnu.org 
Subject: Re: fosdem talk? 

Hello,

That's when I miss the nice quarterly reports we used to have: what's
new since last FOSDEM?

For now I have only noted:

Fixed native fakeroot
Various optimizations
- Node cache
- Lockless reference counting
- IPC table→radix tree
- Kernel memory management
New rpcscan tool

Samuel



Re: fosdem talk?

2016-01-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

That's when I miss the nice quarterly reports we used to have: what's
new since last FOSDEM?

For now I have only noted:

Fixed native fakeroot
Various optimizations
- Node cache
- Lockless reference counting
- IPC table→radix tree
- Kernel memory management
New rpcscan tool

Samuel



Re: fosdem talk?

2015-12-08 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2015-12-07 20:23:11)
> I'll go to FOSDEM this year again.  I'm considering submitting a talk to
> the microkernel room,

So was I.  We could collaborate.

> but what could I talk about?

The road to Hurd 1.0 of course ;)

CHeers,
Justus


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fosdem talk?

2015-12-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

I'll go to FOSDEM this year again.  I'm considering submitting a talk to
the microkernel room, but what could I talk about?

Samuel



Re: fosdem talk?

2015-12-07 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
How about “using the Hurd, examples on bare metal”?

With examples how you do normal things (desktop) and cool things
(anything with capabilities, translators or subhurds) with the Hurd?

(maybe with screenshots, or live-presentation via camera to avoid
having to setup wifi or such)

Best wishes,
Arne

Am Montag, 7. Dezember 2015, 20:23:11 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
> Hello,
> 
> I'll go to FOSDEM this year again.  I'm considering submitting a talk to
> the microkernel room, but what could I talk about?
> 
> Samuel
> 

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Re: fosdem talk?

2015-12-07 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2015-12-07 at 20:23 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'll go to FOSDEM this year again.  I'm considering submitting a talk to
> the microkernel room, but what could I talk about?

Why not talking about the recent advances with the rump kernels, future plans
and a small sound demo on GNU/Hurd?

Just my 5c ;)



FOSDEM 2016 - Microkernel devroom CfP

2015-10-23 Thread Jakub Jermar
FOSDEM 2016 - Microkernel devroom
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION

The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based
operating systems will meet at ​FOSDEM 2016[1] in Brussels, Belgium and
will share a developer room. The devroom is currently looking for
content in the form of talks and activities related to the area of
microkernel-based operating systems. Possible topics include, but are
not limited to:

* project introductory and status update talks, demos
* architecture, subsystem and components' design
* hardware and device drivers
* tools, languages and toolchains
* development, debugging, testing and release engineering
* best practices and learning from mistakes
* trends and challenges
* community and life with a microkernel project

Please use the ​Pentabarf[2] system to submit your proposals. You do not
need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt,
please use the ​devroom mailing list[3]. The deadline for your CfP
submissions is on 2015-12-13. Make sure to include the following in your
proposal:

* title of your talk
* abstract (one or two paragraphs)
* your full name
* your short bio
* a picture of yourself
* duration of your talk

The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be
announced on 2015-12-18 in the devroom's mailing list and the speakers
will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published on the
FOSDEM web and in the FOSDEM booklet.

The devroom will take place on Saturday of January 30, 2016 at ​ULB
Solbosch Campus in Brussels, Belgium[4].

About FOSDEM

FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the
widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the
beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the
best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free
and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to
collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms)
with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet
and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss,
hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and
discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks,
lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year,
FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus.
Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers
gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary.

About the devroom

Since its inception in 2012 the Microkernel devroom has been part of
each FOSDEM conference. It has become a sort of an institutionalized
tradition since then. To this date over a dozen projects have
participated in one way or another, delivering forty talks and other
contributions in total. The goal of the Microkernel devroom has been to
bring the various projects together and let them share ideas,
cross-pollinate and socialize. Each year the devroom is organized by one
of the projects based on a system of rotating presidency from the pool
of projects that opt in. In 2016 it is HelenOS' turn again.

Social events

It has become a tradition that the microkernel projects dine together
somewhere in downtown Brussels after the devroom closes. The year 2016
will not be any different, so there is going to be a microkernel family
dinner on Saturday night. The exact location and time will be specified
later. Consult the FOSDEM web and other projects for additional social
events such as the famous FOSDEM-organized Friday Beer Event and the
FOSDEM-arranged free sightseeing tours for spouses.

Important dates

2015-10-23 CfP
2015-12-13 CfP deadline
2015-12-18 Devroom schedule published, speakers notified
2016-01-30 Microkernel devroom takes place
2016-01-30 Microkernel family dinner

Links

[1] ​http://fosdem.org/2016

[2] ​https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM16

[3] ​https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom

[4] ​https://fosdem.org/2016/practical/transportation/




Re: FOSDEM talk?

2015-01-30 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2015-01-30 02:02:33)
 Hello,
 
 About the Hurd news in my slides, in recent work, I have listed:
 
 - Init system decoupled
   - Allows to use standard Debian sysvinit scripts!
   - Using dmd for Guix  such
 - Distributed mtab translator
 - Various optimizations
   - Protected payloads
   - Lockless implementations
   - Paging management

- Improved message dispatch

 - Valgrind start-of-port

- Merge of procfs/random to make life easier for downstream distros

 and in future work, I have listed the usual TODO list, plus:
 
 - Debian GNU/Hurd unofficial Jessie
 - Server startup in scheme?

Yes please :)

Justus



Re: FOSDEM talk?

2015-01-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

About the Hurd news in my slides, in recent work, I have listed:

- Init system decoupled
  - Allows to use standard Debian sysvinit scripts!
  - Using dmd for Guix  such
- Distributed mtab translator
- Various optimizations
  - Protected payloads
  - Lockless implementations
  - Paging management
- Valgrind start-of-port

and in future work, I have listed the usual TODO list, plus:

- Debian GNU/Hurd unofficial Jessie
- Server startup in scheme?

What am I missing?

Thanks,
Samuel



FOSDEM

2015-01-28 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi!

Better late than never!  Please edit/extend
http://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2015/.
with your data.

I'll be available basically all Friday, if somebody wants to meet
already.  I don't really plan to bring powerful computing equipment with
me (for example, for running Hurd in KVM), but I can still be convinced
otherwise.

Oh, and on Friday evening, there's a GNU dinner.  Guests are very
welcome, of course.
http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3C87r3ufi0y9.fsf%40yamato.home%3E.


Grüße,
 Thomas


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Re: FOSDEM

2015-01-28 Thread Manolis Ragkousis
On 28 January 2015 at 15:56, Thomas Schwinge tho...@codesourcery.com wrote:

 Better late than never!  Please edit/extend
 http://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2015/.
 with your data.

Sorry, I don't have an account either. I am arriving on Friday 11:00
AM and leaving on
Monday around 12PM.

 Oh, and on Friday evening, there's a GNU dinner.  Guests are very
 welcome, of course.
 http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3C87r3ufi0y9.fsf%40yamato.home%3E.

I don't think I will make it to the dinner, but count me in for a
beer. I will send you my phone number
in another (off-the-list) mail, so you can text me any plans if I am not around.

Looking forward to see you :-D,
Manolis



Re: FOSDEM talk?

2014-12-11 Thread Manolis Ragkousis
Nice idea.

I will be able to join you this year. Looking forward.

Manolis



Re: FOSDEM talk?

2014-12-10 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi!

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:07:11 +0100, Román r...@riseup.net wrote:
  [Hurd talk in microkernel devroom at FOSDEM 2015]
 
 I would like a hurd talk about how to contribute. For example, how to fix a 
 simple bug, create a patch... I mean the steps the developers doing when need 
 to fix a bug. Or how to prepare an environment to test and fix bugs. How 
 developers works. Something like Kroah-Hartman talk about creating your first 
 Linux kernel module.

Good idea, and here we go:
https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/hurd/.  :-)


Grüße,
 Thomas


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Re: FOSDEM talk?

2014-11-13 Thread Román
Hello Samuel an thanks for all your  work around HURD.

I would like a hurd talk about how to contribute. For example, how to fix a 
simple bug, create a patch... I mean the steps the developers doing when need 
to fix a bug. Or how to prepare an environment to test and fix bugs. How 
developers works. Something like Kroah-Hartman talk about creating your first 
Linux kernel module.

The people already have the opportunity to watch your nice talks about hurd so 
you can prepare something more technically.

Anyway thank you so much for your talks and your work.

Cheers.

El 13 de noviembre de 2014 02:11:49 CET, Samuel Thibault 
samuel.thiba...@gnu.org escribió:
Hello,

As usual for a few years now, there will be a microkernel room at
FOSDEM, I'll be happy to make a hurd talk there, but what could I talk
about?

Samuel


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FOSDEM talk?

2014-11-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

As usual for a few years now, there will be a microkernel room at
FOSDEM, I'll be happy to make a hurd talk there, but what could I talk
about?

Samuel



FOSDEM 2015 - CfP: Microkernels DevRoom

2014-11-01 Thread Vasily A. Sartakov
Greetings.



FOSDEM 2015 - CfP: Microkernels DevRoom

I would love to announce the Call for Participation in the FOSDEM'15 
Microkernel DevRoom.
FOSDEM’15 will be held at the ULB Campus Solbosch on Saturday 31 January and 
Sunday 1 February 2015 and Microkernel devroom is scheduled on Sunday (01 
February).

Topics accepted include, but are not limited to: 
* Kernels, environments and frameworks
* Hardware support: architectures, drivers
* Languages and tools
* Use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos
* Technical challenges and issues
* Testing and support
* Community building.

Please use Pentabarf [1] system to submit your proposals. You do not need to 
create new account if you already have one. If the password is lost you can 
recovery it. Moreover, we have the devroom mailing list [2]

Within submission please provide: 
* Title of your talk
* Abstract, one or two paragraphs
* Information about speaker: Name, bio, photo 
* Length of the talk. Each talk is limited to 45 minutes but can be less.

Important dates:
* Nov  28: Deadline for submissions
* Dec  01: Speakers notified of acceptance
* Dec  08: Schedule published

Please do not hesitate to forward this CfP to anyone interested in 
participating.

1. https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM15 
2. https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom



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fosdem video

2014-04-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

The video of my FOSDEM talk is at last polished:

http://video.fosdem.org/2014/H2214/Sunday/GNUHurd_DDE_userland_device_drivers.webm

Samuel



Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM

2014-02-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 18:35:44 +0100, a écrit :
  I look forward to watching the recorded video :-)
 
 I'm afraid there is usually no video of the microkernel room.

Actually all rooms will be recorded :D (except the Java room)

Samuel



Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM

2014-02-01 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 01/02/14 10:34, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Samuel Thibault, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 18:35:44 +0100, a écrit :
 I look forward to watching the recorded video :-)

 I'm afraid there is usually no video of the microkernel room.
 
 Actually all rooms will be recorded :D (except the Java room)

Cool. That's what I thought. :-)



Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM

2014-02-01 Thread Michael Banck
On January 31, 2014 6:35:44 PM CET, Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org 
wrote:
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 12:31:39 +0100, a écrit :
 What's the status quo of driver support in the Hurd without DDE (very
few linux
 old 2.0 drivers...)

You mean other than network boards?  That's a usual part of my talks,
yes :)

 I look forward to watching the recorded video :-)

I'm afraid there is usually no video of the microkernel room.

Someone would have to bring a microphone and record it.

Samuel

Hi,

I just got told that all Devrooms are being video taped this year, and there 
might even be streaming available.


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Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM

2014-01-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 12:31:39 +0100, a écrit :
 What's the status quo of driver support in the Hurd without DDE (very few 
 linux
 old 2.0 drivers...)

You mean other than network boards?  That's a usual part of my talks,
yes :)

 I look forward to watching the recorded video :-)

I'm afraid there is usually no video of the microkernel room.

Someone would have to bring a microphone and record it.

Samuel



GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM

2014-01-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

On sunday afternoon, I will talk about DDE at FOSDEM.  I'm now
wondering: what is interesting to talk about on DDE, btw?

:o)

Samuel



FOSDEM

2014-01-11 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi!

http://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2014/.

Name Attending
Samuel Thibault  yes
Thomas Schwinge  yes
[...]?


Grüße,
 Thomas


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FOSDEM 2014 - CfP: Microkernels / Component-based OSes devroom

2013-10-09 Thread Julian Stecklina
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FOSDEM 2014 - CfP: Microkernels / Component-based OSes devroom

Fellow Operating System Hackers,

built on the success of the microkernel devroom in the last years,
FOSDEM 2014 [1] will host a devroom for developers of open-source
microkernel- and component-based operating systems.

The devroom is scheduled for Sunday, February 2nd, 2014. We are
looking for talks in all areas related to microkernels and
component-based operating systems. Possible subjects include, but are
not limited to:

 - introduction of a specific OS or framework,
 - design of subsystems and general architecture of an OS,
 - hardware support,
 - success stories, experiences and lessons learned,
 - security and robustness,
 - improving the toolchain,
 - maintainance and testing,
 - higher-level languages for OS implementation,
 - community building.

To submit a talk, please create an account at the conference's
submission system [2] and select the devroom as the talk's
track. Should there be any problems, please send a mail to the devroom
mailing list [3]. In your submission, be sure to include:

 - Title and approximate length of the talk (in the General tab),
 - the correct track (also in the General tab),
 - a short abstract (in the Description tab).

Talks should not exceed 45 minutes. To help us schedule, please
indicate whether your talk is flexible in its length. Please submit
your proposals before December 1st. We will announce acceptance and
hopefully a rough schedule before Christmas.

Of course, there are other ways to contribute and make this event a
success, for example by doing a demo of your system. Small devices are
no problem, but please check back with us, if you plan to bring larger
equipment.

Please forward this Call for Participation to anyone interested in
participating!

See you in Brussels,
Julian Stecklina

[1] http://fosdem.org/2014
[2] https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/
[3] https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom
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Re: FOSDEM slides

2013-02-07 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2013-02-03 at 17:53, Jens Van Broeckhoven wrote:

 Enjoyed your talk :)

Me too.

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Re: FOSDEM slides

2013-02-03 Thread Jens Van Broeckhoven
Samuel Thibault schreef op za 02-02-2013 om 12:06 [+0100]:
 Hello,
 
 The FOSDEM talk went great, here are the slides:
 
 http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/2013-02-02-fosdem.pdf
 
 Samuel
 
 

Enjoyed your talk :)

Jens.




FOSDEM slides

2013-02-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

The FOSDEM talk went great, here are the slides:

http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/2013-02-02-fosdem.pdf

Samuel



Re: Talk at fosdem

2013-01-28 Thread Richard Braun
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:57:49PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 I'll surely reuse some of the material from my GHM talk
 (http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/slides/samuel-thibault-hurd.pdf)
 but people might have ideas about some things to add, notably the nifty
 features?

I'd also mention the way the design affects security (making processes
obtain due rights instead of switching from root to a less privileged
user).

-- 
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Talk at fosdem

2013-01-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
If you didn't know already, I will make a talk at fosdem in the
microkernel room.

http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/community/meetings/fosdem_2013.html

in short: “The GNU/Hurd architecture, nifty features, and latest news”

I'll surely reuse some of the material from my GHM talk
(http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/slides/samuel-thibault-hurd.pdf)
but people might have ideas about some things to add, notably the nifty
features?

Samuel



[stefan.kalkow...@genode-labs.com: [Microkernel-devroom] FOSDEM 2013 - Final Schedule]

2012-12-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

My talk for the FOSDEM has been confirmed, see below.

Samuel

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To: Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom mailing list. 
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Subject: [Microkernel-devroom] FOSDEM 2013 - Final Schedule
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Dear devroom participants,

sorry for the delay regarding the final schedule announcement. It was
really hard to find a solution with respect to the numerous, interesting
submissions.

I'd like to thank all people for their proposals. After trying hard to
arrange a balanced schedule, here is the outcome:

11:00-11:15  Welcome
11:20-12:00  The GNU/Hurd architecture, nifty features, and latest news
12:05-12:35  Every cloud has a silver lining and what we can learn from it
12:40-13:10  Rathaxes - A DSL for device driver development

--- break ---

14:00-14:40  OS Hot Topics
14:45-15:25  Reaching puberty - How Genode is becoming a general-purpose OS
15:30-16:00  Microkernels and You - long path of the small project
16:05-16:40  HelenOS: last year at a glance
16:45-17:25  The NOVA Microhypervisor Interface
17:30-18:10  Romain: OS Support for Replicating Binary Applications
18:15-19:00  Panel discussion

Regarding the discussion that took place, whether we should have a demo
slot, panel discussion, or some kind of collective taxonomy development:
Due to the short time that is left beside the talks, I've chosen
Martin's proposal of having a moderated, short panel discussion with all
project's on location. Nevertheless, to enable a demo session, and have
more time for open discussion, I'll ask the FOSDEM team for some small
room on Sunday not necessarily mentioned in the official booklet.
Although, chances are low due to limited room capacities.

Looking forward to see you in Brussels  happy new year!

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Re: FOSDEM 2012 -- devroom dedicated to [multiserver] microkernels, or generic alt-OS

2011-12-30 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi!

There will be a ``multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems
devroom'' at FOSDEM, February, Bruxelles, and there is a call for papers,
https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2011-November/001348.html.
The formal deadline is tomorrow, but I'm very sure that later proposals
will still be accepted, as there aren't many, so far.

On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:01:01 +0200, I wrote:
 Are we interested in this?  I said we generally are, but that I have no
 idea how many of us will make it to FOSDEM next year.
 
 Then, our group will need to find things to do in the devroom, provide a
 portion of the content.  This can be (but is not limited to):
 presentations, brainstorming, coding sessions.
 
 Please answer quickly.  Are you interested in this?  Can you already
 forsee whether you'll make it to FOSDEM next year, 4th/5th February 2012,
 http://fosdem.org/2012/.

The wiki page
http://www.bddebian.com:/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2012
is still populated pretty sparsely -- any takers?


Enjoy the last hours of 2011; it surely won't ever come back!

Grüße,
 Thomas


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FOSDEM 2012 - Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom

2011-11-23 Thread Jakub Jermar
FOSDEM 2012 - Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom
*CALL FOR PARTICIPATION*
http://fosdem.org/2012

(apologies for cross-posting)

The developers of several free and open-source multiserver and/or
microkernel-based operating systems will meet at FOSDEM 2012 in
Brussels, Belgium and will share a developer room.

The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks
related to the area of multiserver and/or microkernel-based operating
systems. Possible topics include, but are not limited to:

  OS introduction to developers of other OS
  Subsystems and architecture
  Hardware and device drivers
  Tools and languages
  Release engineering and testing
  Experience and learning from mistakes
  Technical challenges
  Community and life with an OS-project
  Academia and education

Please send your talk proposal(s) to:

  microkernel-devr...@lists.fosdem.org

no later than by 2011-12-31.

Make sure to include the following in your proposal:
- title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
- your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet)
- your short bio giving us some idea of who you are and what is
  your relation to and qualification for the subject of your talk
- number of 15-minute slots that you need for the talk (talks longer
  than 45 minutes are discouraged)

The final devroom schedule (along with accepted talks) will be
announced on 2012-01-9 (Jan 9) in:

  microkernel-devr...@lists.fosdem.org

and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will be
also published on the FOSDEM web and in the FOSDEM booklet after
2012-01-21.

If you do not want to or cannot give a talk yourself, you may still send
suggestions for what else you would like to see/hear/do in the devroom.
Please send your suggestions to the above mailing list.

The devroom is scheduled for Sunday of February 5, room K.3.201. The
seating capacity of the room is 85 seats. Any changes will be announced
in the above mailing list.

Jakub Jermar



FOSDEM 2012 -- devroom dedicated to [multiserver] microkernels, or generic alt-OS

2011-10-24 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi!

I was contacted by jermar on IRC, a developer of HelenOS, which is
another multiserver microkernel based OS, http://www.helenos.org/.

He and also some folks from the MINIX3 group were thinking whether to
propose a developer room for the upcoming FOSDEM 2012.  The idea is for
having a devroom dedicated to [multiserver] microkernels, or a generic
alt-OS room as a fallback.

The deadline for applications is in three days already.

Are we interested in this?  I said we generally are, but that I have no
idea how many of us will make it to FOSDEM next year.

Then, our group will need to find things to do in the devroom, provide a
portion of the content.  This can be (but is not limited to):
presentations, brainstorming, coding sessions.

Please answer quickly.  Are you interested in this?  Can you already
forsee whether you'll make it to FOSDEM next year, 4th/5th February 2012,
http://fosdem.org/2012/.


Grüße,
 Thomas


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FOSDEM 2011

2010-12-22 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hallo!

FOSDEM 2011 is not too far, 2011-02-05 / 06.  http://fosdem.org/2011/.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend this year.


If you're interested in staying with other Hurd / FSF Europe folks, you
can talk to Rainer Kersten r...@office.fsfeurope.org who will handle
booking rooms at Hotel Astrid, EUR 75 / 84 for single / double room
including american breakfast buffet.


These devrooms could be interesting:

  * GNU, http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/fosdem/GHM.html.

  * New Challenges in Virtualization,
http://nciv2011.v2.cs.unibo.it/doku.php, cf. my email about Virtual
Square / View-OS,
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-10/msg5.html.

  * distributions miniconference,
http://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2010-November/001052.html.


Grüße,
 Thomas


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Re: hurd - fosdem

2010-03-05 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Donnerstag, 4. März 2010 17:41:44 schrieb Mikel Olasagasti:
 Sure! But if I made any big mistake due my english level, please, fix it :P

OK, thanks! 
I think your english is nicely readable (but I'm no native either). 

 04/03/2010 06:53 a.m.(e)an, Arne Babenhauserheide(e)k idatzi zuen:
  could you repost your message to bug-hurd? I'd like to link to it in the
  news

  Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2010 11:18:12 schrieb Mikel Olasagasti:
  Hi,
  
  The room was full and people was standing-up for the talk. Some people
  even couldn't enter to the room (+20?).
  
  Antrik made a good job. Was nice for the crowd to see Hurd running X,
  slow but working.
  
  The unique problem maybe was the short time available. The machine
  needed to be fsck-ed losing some time, which could be used at the end
  for QA which was being interesting.

Best wishes, 
Arne

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Re: Fosdem results and recording

2010-02-14 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, 

Am Freitag, 12. Februar 2010 17:42:59 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net:
 Nope, no recordings.

Damn, maybe I'll manage to  be there next year - or maybe omeone else will be.

 I had some technical problems with my presentations, because I didn't
 get around to prepare some things properly. Nevertheless the reception
 seemed pretty well as far as I can tell...

Did you already upload your presentation - or the notes? 

There were some people interested in them in identi.ca

Best wishes, 
Arne


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Re: Fosdem results and recording

2010-02-13 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi,

On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 10:53:48AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:

 I had two requests via identi.ca if there are records of the Hurd
 talks on Fosdem, so: does anyone record? 

Nope, no recordings.

 And if you read this after Fosdem: How did it work out? 

I had some technical problems with my presentations, because I didn't
get around to prepare some things properly. Nevertheless the reception
seemed pretty well as far as I can tell...

-antrik-




Re: news 2010-01: Arch Hurd, FOSDEM preparations and a thesis on mobile Hurd objects

2010-02-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
published on bbdebian. 

 Sorry for the short notice. The current news reads like this:
…
 PS: As usual you can get the news beforehand in the master-news_next branch
 of the wiki (git).


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news 2010-01: Arch Hurd, FOSDEM preparations and a thesis on mobile Hurd objects

2010-01-31 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, 

Sorry for the short notice. The current news reads like this: 

 This month saw the first booting version of an
 [Arch GNU Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/),
 which seconds the distribution from
 [Debian](http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/)
 which already gives you 66% of the debian software archive.

 Also we organized a meeting at FOSDEM, February 6th and 7th in Bruxelles, 
where
 [8 Hurd developers will meet](http://www.bddebian.com/~hurd-
web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010/).
 Six of us will stay in Hotel Astrid with the FSFE folks.
 On Sunday 7th, Olaf Buddenhagen will be giving two presentations in the
 [Alt-OS Devroom](http://dev.haiku-
os.org/wiki/FOSDEM2010AltOSDevroomSchedule):
 *Why is Anyone Still Working on the GNU Hurd?* (10:30)
 and *Porting KGI graphics drivers from Linux to GNU Hurd* (13:00).
 
 And Carl Fredrik Hammar
 [finished and presented](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-
hurd/2010-01/msg00078.html)
 his thesis
 [Generalizing mobility for the Hurd]
(http://users.student.lth.se/cs07fh9/2009-hammar-hurd-mobility.pdf)
 and passed with distinction. Its abstract reads:
 *The GNU Hurd features mobile objects
 in its implementation of filesystem backing stores.
 This thesis investigates the
 limitations and security concerns
 these objects present,
 and how they can be overcome.
 This is done in preparation for new applications
 that feature mobile code and mobile objects.
 In addition,
 one such application is studied and implemented,
 in which mobile code is used to make
 the ioctl system call more extensible.*

Please add anything important I missed (I still have problems with my email 
program, so quite a few things might have slipped past me). 

I'll merge and push tomorrow... 

Best wishes, 
Arne

PS: As usual you can get the news beforehand in the master-news_next branch of 
the wiki (git). 

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Re: [Ghm-discuss] GNU at FOSDEM 6-7 Feb 2010

2010-01-13 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 11:25:00AM +, Brian Gough wrote:
 As you may know, there will be a GNU get-together at FOSDEM and a GNU
 booth jointly with FSFE.
 
 I've made a summary page at http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2010/fosdem/ of the
 details I'm aware of.
 
 There are GNUstep, GNOME and Free Java devrooms at FOSDEM, so quite a
 lot of GNU people are attending.

Hurd folks will stay together with FSFE / GNU folks too, this year; you
may want to link to the freshly updated
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/community/meetings/fosdem_2010.html
from the GHM page, as well as update the list of participants.


Looking forward to seeing you all there!  And if someone still wants to
join in -- it's not too late!

Regards,
 Thomas


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Re: FOSDEM 2010

2010-01-02 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 04:37:12AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:01:41AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
 
  FOSDEM 2010 is slowly approaching.
  
  A few Hurd types have shown interest in meeting there, so I created
  http://www.thomas.schwinge.homeip.net/hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010.html
  for coordination.  Beware that web-editing (and the whole of bddebian
  HTTP) is still down due to this Perl crash I (or someone else, of
  course) needs to have a look at.  But you can either use the Git
  interface, cf.
  http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/contributing/web_pages.html, for
  doing any changes, or tell me by email or on IRC (tschwinge on
  freenode.net).
 
 As the wiki is kinda-working again now, I think it's right to use
 http://www.bddebian.com/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010/ ?
 
 Also, I think it would be good to mention that there will be an alt-os
 devroom, where we will surely hang out -- and hopefully could give a
 talk or two as well...

The submission deadline for the alt-os devroom has been extended till
the end of January 4th:

http://groups.google.com/group/rosetta-os/browse_thread/thread/16964e21bef27116

Francois Revol (the chairmain of the devroom) turned up in #hurd today
and requested submissions:

mmu_screen I'd really like to see a Hurd demo :)

His email address is re...@free.fr.


Michael




Re: FOSDEM 2010

2010-01-01 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi,

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:01:41AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:

 FOSDEM 2010 is slowly approaching.
 
 A few Hurd types have shown interest in meeting there, so I created
 http://www.thomas.schwinge.homeip.net/hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010.html
 for coordination.  Beware that web-editing (and the whole of bddebian
 HTTP) is still down due to this Perl crash I (or someone else, of
 course) needs to have a look at.  But you can either use the Git
 interface, cf.
 http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/contributing/web_pages.html, for
 doing any changes, or tell me by email or on IRC (tschwinge on
 freenode.net).

As the wiki is kinda-working again now, I think it's right to use
http://www.bddebian.com/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010/ ?

Also, I think it would be good to mention that there will be an alt-os
devroom, where we will surely hang out -- and hopefully could give a
talk or two as well...

-antrik-




FOSDEM 2010

2009-12-22 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

FOSDEM 2010 is slowly approaching.

A few Hurd types have shown interest in meeting there, so I created
http://www.thomas.schwinge.homeip.net/hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010.html
for coordination.  Beware that web-editing (and the whole of bddebian
HTTP) is still down due to this Perl crash I (or someone else, of course)
needs to have a look at.  But you can either use the Git interface, cf.
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/contributing/web_pages.html, for doing
any changes, or tell me by email or on IRC (tschwinge on freenode.net).

So far, I only added Neal and myself to that page, but I think that Olaf,
Michael, Anatoly also considered going.  What about the other usual
suspects?  What about our GSoC folks, or Carl Fredrik with his
Hurd-related masters thesis?  Or our new Debian porters?  I added stubs
for all of you, so just shoot.  :-)

Likewise everyone else who wants to meet their favorite Hurd developer.

Duck et al., what about HurdFr?  If not going separately as a group, of
course feel free to register at that page, too.


Regards,
 Thomas




[rev...@gmail.com: Call for participation to the Alt-OS devroom at FOSDEM]

2009-12-20 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi,

I'm going -- who else? :-)

-antrik-

- Forwarded message from mmu_man rev...@gmail.com -

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:56:17 -0800 (PST)
From: mmu_man rev...@gmail.com
To: Rosetta rosetta...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Call for participation to the Alt-OS devroom at FOSDEM
Reply-To: rosetta...@googlegroups.com

During the previous edition of the Free and Open Source Software
Developer's European Meeting (FOSDEM) http://fosdem.org/, several
alternative FOSS Operating System projects (Haiku http://haiku-os.org/
, ReactOS http://www.reactos.org/) shared booths, but there were
discussions about going beyond presenting each projects on its own,
and instead seek cooperation. Recently, at the Google Summer of Code
mentor summit, other OS projects gathered and formed the Rosetta OS
group http://code.google.com/p/rosetta-os/ to work on driver
sharing.

This year, the FOSDEM (in Brussels, 6-7th February 2010) will host the
Alt-OS devroom on sunday from 9:00 to 17:00, organized by members of
the Rosetta OS project.

This devroom is meant as a place for Free and OpenSource Alternative
Operating System projects to share ideas and work on topics like:
 * distinguishing design and features,
 * device drivers and how to share them,
 * sharing code for internal components,
 * internal usage of other FOSS projects to build upon,
 * application portability,
 * interoperability,
  * file formats,
  * extended attributes...

We are interested to hear about your OS projects, how they are
designed, and what they could eventually share for other projects'
benefit.
In addition to all FOSS OS projects, any application project that is
seeking new target platforms is invited. Featured projects will
include participants from the Rosetta OS project which charter http://
code.google.com/p/rosetta-os/wiki/RosettaOSCharter matches our
devroom goal.

As time allows, we are also interested in transversal subjects in
cooperation with other devrooms. As an example, possible topics could
include:
 * unusual package management with the Crossdistro room,
 * standardization of GUI elements and behavior with the Crossdesktop
devroom,
 * scalability with the Embedded devroom,
 * ways in which BSD drivers were reused in your project,
 * concerns about porting Java,
 * Gallium3D port progress reports...

The format of the talks can vary, from 45min large speech to 15 min
general project presentation, or hand-on hacking session.

= Proposals =

Proposals should be sent to François Revol by mail: revol AT free DOT
fr

Your proposal should include:
 * duration (in 15 minute blocks -- please stick with that
granularity, as it will make the schedule somewhat easier to follow
for visitors),
 * activity title (please try to be descriptive, there are ~250 talks
at FOSDEM during the week-end ;)),
 * a short abstract (1-2 paragraphs),
 * a longer description if appropriate,
 * optionally a list of links to the project website or similar
 * for each speaker:
  * the speaker's real name,
  * a short overview of her bio in a couple of lines,
  * optionally also a longer bio,
  * optionally a picture (please send it to us as 128x128 PNG),
  * optionally links to her website, blog, ...

Plain-text format is preferred by the FOSDEM team, it makes their life
easier, something like:

--
John Doe
john@example.org

John is currently working as a freelancer and spends most of his free
time contributing to various opensource projects, most prominently on
libjohndoe.

John currently lives in England with his wife, 2 kids and a bunch of
kitten. He loves spending his time walking around in the woods, and
of course kitten. He has a masters degree in kitten science, which
helps him a lot with coding.

blog: http://johndoe.example.org/blog/
attached: john_doe.png
--

= Deadline =

The deadline for submissions is 2009-12-25, please try to stick to it.
Acceptance notification on 2009-12-31.

= Organization =

The room provided by the FOSDEM team has:
 * room number AW1.105 with 48 seats,
 * a video projector with VGA cable,
 * wireless internet.
We will try to provide a wifi router with ethernet ports for
demonstrations since we know many projects do not have functional wifi
drivers yet.
We will also try to provide a laptop to load your slides on if you
can't use your own machine.

It is advised to see with your project supporting associations for
possible reimbursement of travel and hosting cost, since the FOSDEM
team cannot help there. Attendance is free however.
Also remember to check other devroom calls as well as the call for
lightning talks http://fosdem.org/2010/call_for_lightningtalks, for
subjects that might not fit our topics of interest.

= Projected schedule =


 9:00   Welcome (15min)
 9:15   Rosetta OS project
morning project presentations, design...
afternoon   more projects, workshops...
16:45   Closing (15min)

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[rev...@gmail.com: FOSDEM 2010 Devroom for Alt-OS accepted]

2009-12-04 Thread olafBuddenhagen
- Forwarded message from mmu_man rev...@gmail.com -

Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:59:17 -0800 (PST)
From: mmu_man rev...@gmail.com
To: Rosetta rosetta...@googlegroups.com
Subject: FOSDEM 2010 Devroom for Alt-OS accepted
Reply-To: rosetta...@googlegroups.com

I just got notified that the devroom was accepted :

 Your request for a devroom at FOSDEM 2010 has been accepted, and we will
 put the following at your disposal:
 - room AW1.105 with 48 seats,
 - a video projector with VGA cable,
 - wireless internet,

(I'll probably try to bring a wifi router to get wires from it since
I'm not sure the haiku wifi stack will be done by then, and ditto for
others.)

 for 1 day, on Sunday 7th February from 09:00 to 17:00

Now we need to fill it.

Please reply with your proposals.

I'll at least talk about porting OSS4and probably something else about
Haiku.

François.

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Fwd: Fwd: [haiku-development] non-linux devroom at FOSDEM ?

2009-11-22 Thread antrik
Hi,

This sounds pretty interesting. I guess at least a few of us will be
at FOSDEM, and could attend this?

I've subscribed to the group now BTW. Too bad we missed out on the
GSoC mentor summit, where it originally came into being :-)

-antrik-

-- Forwarded message --
From: mmu_man rev...@gmail.com
Date: Nov 20, 7:32 pm
Subject: Fwd: [haiku-development] non-linux devroom at FOSDEM ?
To: Rosetta


Hi there !

 I will try to attend the FOSDEM. I am not yet sure whether my schedule
 allows it but things look good up to now.

 I am looking forward to meeting other Rosetta-OS people. :-)

Me too...

If you want to participate in a non-linux devroom make sure you fill
the form:http://fosdem.org/2010/call_for_developer_rooms
quoting you would like to be part of a non-linux devroom, either as
part of the distro ones or separately.
If enough non-linux projects request a devroom maybe we'll get one...

Here is what I filled, you should probably reuse the name:
---
* devroom name: Alt-OS (Anything-but-Linux-disTro Operating System)

* devroom description:

Talks and workshops about alternative (non Linux based) opensource
operating systems, in the purpose of sharing experience on application
ports, common driver development and design differences.

Possible talks include :
- POSIX  *nix compatibility coverage of alternative OSes (example
from Haiku...)
- *nix app porting tricks (autoconf, ...)
- OSSv4 port considerations
- status of the NetSurf port to Haiku

Possible workshops include :
- porting a command line application to Haiku
- porting a FreeBSD network driver to Haiku
- native hello world GUI application on Haiku

* devroom related URLs:http://www.haiku-os.org/http://
groups.google.com/group/rosetta-os?pli=1http://opensound.com/http://
netsurf-browser.org/

* comments/remarks:
It could either be done as part of the distro miniconf, or as a
separate room. We would actually welcome discussions with distro
projects too, on subjects like package management for example.

Possible projects interested in joining in:
RTEMShttp://www.rtems.com/
Minixhttp://www.minix3.org/
AROShttp://aros.org/
ReactOShttp://www.reactos.org/fr/index.html
Syllablehttp://web.syllable.org/pages/index.html
Other participants in the Rosetta OS (discussion group about non-linux
FOSS OSes)http://groups.google.com/group/rosetta-os?pli=1

---

I'd suggest you also fill the form to show the orga how much demand
there is for it.
We'll get an answer by 2009-11-29.

You can also ask for a booth:http://fosdem.org/2010/call_for_stands
I just sent the Haiku request.

The general call for participation:http://fosdem.org/2010/
call_for_participation

François.




[URGENT] non-linux devroom at FOSDEM

2009-11-21 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

FYI, from #hurd (freenode), a few hours ago:

| mmu_man
|   
http://groups.google.com/group/rosetta-os/browse_thread/thread/f3b0bcf874ca5cd9/8366b630272cb94e#8366b630272cb94e
|   Fwd: [haiku-development] non-linux devroom at FOSDEM ?
| mmu_man I'm trying to organize a shared non-linux freesoftware OS
|   devroom at FOSDEM this year
| mmu_man the idea didn't pick up last year but maybe this time... the
|   FOSDEM team is trying to group linux distros in less rooms, maybe we
|   can get one for us to gather
| mmu_man we could have talks about driver  app porting, share design
|   concerns...
| mmu_man I can talk about OSSv4 porting I did to Haiku...
| mmu_man if anyone wants to participate, please read and fill the form
|   on the fosdem website, before sunday 22nd :)
| mmu_man (btw, this Rosetta OS group was created recently after a
|   non-linux meetup at the GSoC mentor summit to try to share efforts
|   in driver writing, currently some people from Haiku, Minix and RTEMS
|   are visible there)


Regards,
 Thomas


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Re: FOSDEM 2008

2008-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Thu 07 Feb 2008 10:10:14 +, a écrit :
 Grembl, it looks like we waited too long: the Bruegel is already full.
 I've tried a few others, and it seems quite hard to find something below
 30€/night.

Ok, good news!

According to the wiki information, I booked rooms at The Moon Hotel, Rue
de la Montagne 4B

- one triple room for the night of Thirsday 21
- two double rooms and two double rooms for the nights of Friday 22, Saturday 
23 and Sunday 24.
(these were the last rooms of the hotel)

i.e. 3+10*3 nights for a total cost of 1104€, which makes 33.5€/night.

in each room there is a double bed, so some people will have to be couples :) 
For now, we have

- Bas  girlfriend
- Gianluca  Samuel
- Marcus  Thomas
- ??

Breakfast is included, there is hotspot wifi

Samuel




Re: FOSDEM 2008

2008-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Fri 08 Feb 2008 09:18:45 +, a écrit :
 Samuel Thibault, le Thu 07 Feb 2008 10:10:14 +, a écrit :
  Grembl, it looks like we waited too long: the Bruegel is already full.
  I've tried a few others, and it seems quite hard to find something below
  30€/night.
 
 Ok, good news!
 
 According to the wiki information, I booked rooms at The Moon Hotel, Rue
 de la Montagne 4B

I forgot to say: check-in can be between 13:00 and 00:00, departure is
before 11:00

Samuel




Re: FOSDEM 2008

2008-02-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Grembl, it looks like we waited too long: the Bruegel is already full.
I've tried a few others, and it seems quite hard to find something below
30€/night.

Samuel




Re: FOSDEM 2008

2008-02-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
  Not from my side, no.  But as long as we don't even know who'll be
  attending FOSDEM, we can't make any decision whether to rent an
  appartement or not, in my opinion.
 
 I guess that it's too late for renting an appartment nevertheless.  I'd
 be fine with staying in the youth hostel again, where we've been for the
 last two years.
 
 Samuel, would you be fine with giving them a phone call again?

Sure, however, I need precise dates to be able to reserve rooms.

For now, I've put a large estimation on the wiki, please check your
dates and fix if needed. I'll call them tomorrow morning with the rough
estimation to check for availability.

Samuel




Re: FOSDEM 2008

2008-01-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:27:36PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is always some uncertainty in such matters. But I have little
 doubt we could get a reasonable number of people together *if* somebody
 would actually take up organising it. It's all about taking initiative.
 However it seems there is nobody able and/or willing to do so, and
 consequently the matter is pretty much settled...

So basically what you are saying is that you are unwilling to organize
it.


Michael


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Re: FOSDEM 2008

2008-01-11 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 07:50:52PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Just a reminder:
 
 Thomas Schwinge, le Wed 07 Nov 2007 20:20:54 +0100, a écrit :
  Already some weeks ago I installed a
  coordination page into the wiki:
  http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/community/meetings/fosdem_2008/.  Please
  add yourself.

... or tell someone else with a wiki account to add you.


Marcus and I as well intend to arrive one or two days before FOSDEM and
leave one or two days after.  The same procedure as every year.  Not set
in stone yet, but that's the idea.


  If we want to stay in an appartment this year, instead of again staying
  in a youth hostel, we'd need someone to organize that.
 
 No news about this?

Not from my side, no.  But as long as we don't even know who'll be
attending FOSDEM, we can't make any decision whether to rent an
appartement or not, in my opinion.


Regards,
 Thomas


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Re: FOSDEM 2008

2007-12-01 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

I was mostly absent for the last weeks.


On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:20:54PM +0100, I wrote:
 FOSDEM 2008 is nearly there.  OK, not quite yet (February 23rd/24th), but
 planning for it definitely is.  Already some weeks ago I installed a
 coordination page into the wiki:
 http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/community/meetings/fosdem_2008/.  Please
 add yourself.

Still valid.


 If we want to stay in an appartment this year, instead of again staying
 in a youth hostel, we'd need someone to organize that.

Still valid.


 The ``Call for Developer Rooms and Stands'' has been posted at
 http://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2007-November/000302.html
 
 Question: do we want to have a Developer Room for giving talks, doing
 hacking, etc.?

I only got feedback from Olaf and Bas, who would both have been willing
to give talks, as well as Marcus and Neal might have been willing, too.
However, the deadline for registration of the devrooms passed on
2007-11-26.  I didn't register, did someone else?

Why didn't I register?  I simply missed the deadline.

Why did I miss the deadline?  Because for me it was quite disappointing
that nobody of all the other people to which this email of mine was sent
to, took the half of a minute to say something like: ``Yes, I'm not (yet
sure if I'm) going to give a talk, but I like the idea, please try to
register a room.'' or whatever.


If we want to achieve something as banal as registering a devroom, it's
not only me who has to get active to register the room, but it's also the
whole community to back this up.  This has been missing mostly.


Regards,
 Thomas


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FOSDEM 2008

2007-11-07 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

FOSDEM 2008 is nearly there.  OK, not quite yet (February 23rd/24th), but
planning for it definitely is.  Already some weeks ago I installed a
coordination page into the wiki:
http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/community/meetings/fosdem_2008/.  Please
add yourself.


If we want to stay in an appartment this year, instead of again staying
in a youth hostel, we'd need someone to organize that.


The ``Call for Developer Rooms and Stands'' has been posted at
http://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2007-November/000302.html

Question: do we want to have a Developer Room for giving talks, doing
hacking, etc.?  What do we have to tell?  Whom do we want to tell?  Do we
want to reach arbitrary people that don't know how to spell ``Hurd'' yet,
or rather do some BoF-like sessions, i.e., internal presentations?

Some first thoughts, and to drop some names:

A bunch of people have been hacking on kernels at the moment and could
present their findings: Bas Wijnen, Gianluca Guida, Johan Rydberg, Marcus
Brinkmann, Neal Walfield, Richard Braun, Samuel Thibault, Tom Bachmann.
Richard has been working for his university thesis on the Mach
reimplementation X-15.  Samuel has been working on Xen-Mach.  Gianluca,
as well as Samuel, is also working on Xen stuff these days.  Bas, Marcus,
Neal and Tom worked on kernel stuff (more or less) with respect to what's
currently being called Hurd-NG.  Johan was at least working on kernel
stuff in the past time.  I'm quite sure that Marcus and Neal would find a
topic (or two) worth presenting, what about the others?

Fredrik Hammar was working on libchannel during the summer, being
mentored by Richard and Olaf Buddenhagen.  This work would be worth
presenting.

Stefan Siegl recently implemented support for IPv6 into pfinet.  Would
this be a topic for a presentation?  Or about the Hurdy libfuse?

Myself, I also have an idea about what to work on and present it
afterwards -- if at all I get some results until FOSDEM, which might be
difficult, as there are a bunch of maintenance tasks I'm supposed to be
working on before getting on to my fancy ideas, sadly.

Other people interested in doing a presentation (or two)?

Please answer quickly, as the Developer Rooms have to be requested real
soon now.  (And there's, of course, no guarantee that we'll be assigned
one at all.)


Regards,
 Thomas


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Re: FOSDEM 2008

2007-11-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi,

On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:20:54PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:

 Question: do we want to have a Developer Room for giving talks, doing
 hacking, etc.?

Yes, I think we should try to get one if we can. People attending get
much more out of the conference this way.

 What do we have to tell?  Whom do we want to tell?  Do we want to
 reach arbitrary people that don't know how to spell ``Hurd'' yet, or
 rather do some BoF-like sessions, i.e., internal presentations?

According to my own experience, the devrooms at FOSDEM generally tend to
be rather BoF-like. (They are developer rooms after all, right? ;-) )
FOSDEM has way too much other interesting stuff to offer, to hope for
anyone but people already seriously interested in the topic to drop by.
Only extremely catchy topics (like e.g. Xgl in the X devroom in 2006)
will attract outsiders.

Thus, I think the answer is pretty clear: We should focus on exchanging
knowledge and ideas amongst people interested in the Hurd. IMHO that's
also what this community is most sorely missing, so it really makes
sense...

If we come up with some talk that indeed could attract a wider audience,
I think we should rather try to get that one into one of the main
tracks.

 Other people interested in doing a presentation (or two)?

If people don't mind rather abstract topics -- more in the realm of
ideas to work on than stuff one can actually use right now -- I should
have no difficulty doing a presentation or two :-)

-antrik-


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Hurd people gathering: FOSDEM 2007

2007-01-24 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

In case you don't know already, FOSDEM 2007 (Bruxelles, Belgium,
2007-02-24 to 25) is getting nearer.  Wouter van Heyst offered to search
for suitable accommodation, also perhaps for some days before the
conference and after, like in the last years.  For that task to be
accomplishable for him, we need to know a) if you want to stay with us
people there at all and if yes, then b) when you intend to arrive at
Bruxelles and when you're going to leave again.  On
http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hug/FOSDEM2007 there is a table to
register that information and further links are provided as well.  If you
don't want to or can't edit the table yourself, then don't hesitate to
tell me.

Please answer soon.


Regards,
 Wouter and Thomas


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FOSDEM 2007

2007-01-06 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

We should pull ourselves together and announce who will be at FOSDEM
(Brussels, Belgium; http://fosdem.org/2007/) in February.

On 24th and 25th is the conference, but no one can stop us from already
meeting earlier or staying longer.

And even more importantly, we need statements who would like to stay with
us together in an appartment during those days; the wiki page at
http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hug/FOSDEM2007 still looks a bit
sparse with regard to that.  So, please, either update it yourself or
tell me to do it for you.

After having stayed in a youth hostel last year, Wouter van Heyst
(LarstiQ) offered to take a look-around for a suitable appartment this
year, but that should happen rather now than later and for that we need
to know for how many people we have to calculate.


Regards,
 Thomas


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CALL FOR PAPERS for the 5th EMBEDDED track at FOSDEM 2007

2006-12-02 Thread p2
CALL FOR PAPERS for the 5th EMBEDDED track at FOSDEM 2007
=

sat 24 - sun 25 February 2007, Brussels

Call for papers


The 2007 edition of FOSDEM (Free and Open Source Developers' European
Meeting; http://www.fosdem.org) will take place in Brussels, Belgium 
on 24 and 25 February 2007. For the fifth time, a track on Embedded 
Systems and Operating Systems will be organized. The fourth edition 
was quite succesful and attracted up to 150 attendants for certain
topics.

For last year's program see:
http://www.embedded-kernel-track.org/2006/papers.html

The use of Free Software in the infrastructure of Embedded Systems 
is booming, e.g. by the use of Linux, uClinux, eCos, RedBoot, RTEMS 
and many other Free Software components. More companies are supporting
Embedded Free Software every day because of the reliability and cheap
licensing. This can be confirmed from looking at some high profile
releases of embedded GNU/Linux systems. Some examples are the Nokia 770,
some models of Motorola's smartphones and Archos media players. Not to 
forget the popular TomTom navigation system, the numerous SOHO routers 
and NAS devices based on linux.

Operating System development has always been a very important topic in
Free Software.
As embedded and real-time systems typically have special OS
requirements, we organise this Free Embedded and OS development track at
FOSDEM to give people the opportunity to present their (or their teams)
achievements.

This track at FOSDEM provides a remarkable opportunity to present and
discuss the ongoing work in these areas, and we invite developers to 
present their current projects. Technical topics of the conference 
include but are not limited to :

* OS Development : kernel architecture and implementation, libraries, power 
   management, TIPC, boot time and memory usage optimizations
  (e.g. Linux, BSD, uClinux, uClibc, newlib, slob allocator,...)

* Practical experiences in implementing Free Software in embedded
systems  (e.g. reverse engineering, porting  to (and adapting of)
commercial devices like the Ipaq, linksys WRT54G, nlsu2  )

* Toolchain, performance testing and build environment 
  (e.g. crosstool, emdebian, openembedded, PTX dist, packaging,
scratchbox, Eclipse, Valgrind,...)

* GUIs for embedded systems
  (Gtk, Qt-(embedded), GPE, Qtopia, UI design with touchscreen, 
   Hildon GUI extensions, OpenMoko, OpenGL ES, ...)

* Multimedia applications for embedded systems
  (e.g. integer only decoders, Opieplayer, gstreamer... )

* Real-time extensions, nanokernels and hardware virtualization software
  (e.g. RTAI, Adeos, KURT, L4, Qemu, User Mode Linux, VirtualLogix,
   high resolution timers, ...)
 
* Hard real-time OS's
  (eCos, RTEMS, Real Time Linux,...)

* Open hardware, DSP, softcores and general hardware management
  (e.g opencores.org, OpenRISC, leonSparc, FPGA's, specific design
restrictions for free systems, DSP, Power management...)

* Safety and security certifications applied to Free software
   (e.g. security measures in Embedded systems, TPM, SELinux
for embedded, TrustZone, ...)

* Tools and techniques for programming multicore systems

* Free software licenses and embedded systems

Authors that wish to present a topic are requested to submit their
abstracts online to [EMAIL PROTECTED] before 14/01/2007. Notification
of receipt will be sent within 48 hours. Authors wishing to submit a
full paper (between 6 and 12 A4 pages), can do so in PS or PDF format.

The Program Committee will evaluate the abstracts and consists of:

* Geert Uytterhoeven, Sony NSCE, Belgium
* Peter De Schrijver (p2), Essensium, Belgium
* Philippe De Swert, Nokia (OSSO), Finland
* Klaas van Gend, MontaVista Software, The Netherlands



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FOSDEM: Hurd Developers' Mini-Symposium Roundup

2005-03-07 Thread Neal H. Walfield
Hello,

For those of you who were unable to make it to FOSDEM last week, you
missed a great time.  Not only did we have seven presentation about
people's work pertaining to the Hurd, but the weekend was filled with
rich exchange which I think has helped bring the community closer
together and foster new ideas.  Although it is difficult to relate the
latter, you can see the slides and hear (!) most of the presentations
at http://people.debian.org/~neal/FOSDEM-2005/

The presentations available are:

- Supporting Larger ext2 File Systems in the Hurd
  Ognyan Kulev

- Hurd on L4: Towards Extensibility
  Neal H. Walfield

- Interactions in a Multiserver Operating System: The Importance of a
  good RPC Framework
  Marcus Brinkmann

- L4/Hurd driver model
  Peter 'p2' De Schrijver

- GRUB 2
  Marco Gerards

- Debian GNU/Hurd
  Michael Banck

Thanks,
Neal


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Call for Papers: FOSDEM 2004: 2nd EMBEDDED SYSTEMS and OPERATING SYSTEMS track

2003-12-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
2nd EMBEDDED SYSTEMS and OPERATING SYSTEMS track at FOSDEM 2004
===

21 - 22 February 2004, Brussels

Call for papers
---

The 2004 edition of FOSDEM (Free and Open Source Developers' European
Meeting; http://www.fosdem.org) will take place in Brussels, Belgium 
on 21 and 22 February 2004. For the second time, a track on Embedded 
and Operating Systems will be organized. The first edition was quite
succesful and attracted up to 100 attendants for certain topics.
The program and papers of last year are available at 
http://www.embedded-kernel-track.org/2003/

The use of Free Software in the infrastructure of Embedded Systems 
is booming, e.g. by the use of Linux, uClinux, eCos, RedBoot, RTEMS 
and many other Free Software components. Operating System development 
has always been a very important topic in Free Software. As embedded 
and real-time systems typically have special OS requirements, we 
organise this Free Embedded and OS development track at FOSDEM.

This track at FOSDEM provides a remarkable opportunity to present and
discuss the ongoing work in these areas, and we invite developers to 
present their current projects. Technical topics of the conference 
include but are not limited to :

* OS Development : kernel architecture and implementation
  (e.g. Linux, BSD, the Hurd, ...)

* Embedded Development : tool chains and project cases
  (e.g. tool chain projects, packaging for cross 
   compilation, portability, ...)

* Real-time extensions, nanokernels and hardware virtualization software
  (e.g. RTAI, Adeos, KURT, L4, ...)

* Hard real-time OS's
  (eCos, RTEMS, ...)

* Embedded Java: open source implementations and the compatibility question
  (Classpath, Kaffe, Wonka, ..., Mauve, JCK, JCP, ...)

* Open hardware and softcores
  (e.g opencores.org, OpenRISC, leonSparc, FPGA's, ...)

* GUI's for embedded systems
  (Gtk, Qt, MicroWindows, ...)

Authors are requested to submit their abstracts online to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] before 18/12/2003. Notification of receipt 
will be sent within 48 hours. Authors wishing to submit a full
paper (between 6 and 12 A4 pages), can do so in PS or PDF format.

The Program Committee will evaluate the abstracts and consists of:

* Herman Bruyninckx, Professor at K.U.Leuven, Belgium
* Geert Uytterhoeven, Sony NSCE, Belgium
* Karim Yaghmour, Opersys, Canada
* Marcus Brinkman, University Bochum, Germany
* Peter 'p2' De Schrijver, Mind, Belgium

Peter Vandenabeele, acts as practical organiser for this track.
All communication should be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Program for Embedded Kernel Development at fosdem 2003

2003-01-28 Thread Peter 'p2' De Schrijver
Dear all,

Fosdem 2003 will be held 8 and 9 february 2003 in Brussels. See
http://www.fosdem.org for more info.

The program for the Embedded  Kernel Development Room at fosdem 2003 :

Saturday 8/2/2003
=

14:00 - 14:45 : Keynote
opencores.org : free hardware development
Speaker : Richard Herveille

14:45 - 15:30 : Adapting Debian for Embedded Use
Speaker : Martin Michlmayr

16:00 - 16:45 : Portable programming on complex systems
Speaker : Peter De Schrijver

16:45 - 17:30 : Wonka  - a JVM for embedded systems
Speaker : Chris Gray

Sunday 9/2/2003
===

10:00 - 11:00 : breakfast + BoF's

11:00 - 11:45 : Cross-compiling in embedded systems
Speaker : Eero Tamminen
  
11:45 - 12:30 : eCos
Speaker : Nick Garnett

14:00 - 14:45 : RTAI
Speaker : Philippe Gerum

14:45 - 15:30 : GNU Bayonne and real-time issues in freely licensed 
telephony software
Speaker : David Sugar

15:30 - 16:15 : Using C++ for real-time extensions to the Linux kernel
Speaker : Peter Soetens

Cheers,

Peter.


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