CfP: Microkernel and Component-based OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2024
Microkernel and Component-based OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2024 CALL FOR PARTICIPATION On-line version of this CfP: http://fosdem.microkernel.info/ The developers and users of several free and open source microkernel-based, unikernel-based and component-based operating systems will meet as part of FOSDEM 2024 [1] and will share a developer room. The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks and other activities related to microkernel-based, unikernel-based, component-based operating systems and similar areas. Possible topics of the devroom include, but are not limited to: * introduction of a specific OS or framework * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS * languages, tools and toolchains used * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) and programming languages * development processes, debugging * maintenance, testing and release engineering * safety, security and robustness * trends and challenges * research and open questions * community and governance * use cases, experiences and status updates * best practices and lessons learned * demos The devroom has been scheduled to Saturday February 3rd 2024 in the afternoon (Central European Time). This is a call for your participation. We kindly ask you to submit your proposals no later than on December 10th 2023 (End of Day, Anywhere on Earth). Please use the pretalx [2] web site to submit your proposals. Note that this is a new submission system and the user accounts from the previous submission system (pentabarf) have not been transferred. Make sure to select the Microkernel and Component-based OS as the track when submitting your proposal and include at least the following information: * title of your proposal * short abstract (one or two paragraphs) * duration (at least 15 minutes and no longer than 40 minutes) * your full name * your short bio You can specify your preferred time slot of your proposal and any other relevant information. The communication language of the devroom is English. Please note that the devroom has been allocated only a half of a day this year. Therefore the final decision on the duration of the talks will be made by the devroom organizers based on the number of accepted proposals. The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be announced on December 15th 2023 on the devroom's mailing list [3] and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will be published on the FOSDEM web site, too. About the Devroom Since the first Microkernel OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2012 [4], this devroom has been a part of each following FOSDEM (with slight variations of the name). The focus gradually widened to include component-based, unikernel-based and other operating systems. By now, it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the open source operating systems community, a kind of "extended family meeting" and it is one of the places where microkernel and unikernel enthusiasts meet regularly. To this date, over two dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Many of the projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different solutions. Therefore, the goal of the devroom is to bring the various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize. As every previous year, the devroom will offer the "stage" both to established community members and to newcomers. We like to select the talks in an inclusive manner, while staying true to the main technical topics (system-level software, broadly speaking) and creating a balanced and unbiased schedule. We would like to keep the quality bar of the devroom same as in the previous years. Presenting at FOSDEM implies that the recordings of the talks will be published under Creative Commons license by FOSDEM. By submitting a proposal, the speaker agrees to have the talk made available publicly indefinitely. For organizational purposes, we also need contact information of the speakers of accepted talks. Microkernel Dinner It has also become a habit that the devroom participants dine together somewhere in Brussels. The year 2024 will not be any different, so there is going to be a dinner on Saturday night. We will inform you about the exact arrangements later. About FOSDEM FOSDEM [5] is a two-day conference organized by volunteers to promote the widespread use of free and open source software. FOSDEM is widely recognized as one of the largest and best such events worldwide. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free and open source software and hardware projects and offers a platform for people to collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer ro
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
Damien Zammit, le lun. 27 déc. 2021 13:32:44 +1100, a ecrit: > On 14/12/21 8:09 am, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Almudena Garcia, le lun. 13 déc. 2021 17:04:06 +0100, a ecrit: > >>> However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be. Can you > >>> help > >> suggest what I can talk about? > >> Maybe could be interesting talk about the Rumpkernel implementation: > >> advantages > >> of this (new drivers, by example), the gnumach modifications done for this > >> task, and the current status. > > > > I was thinking about this kind of things yes: the rumpdisk-based > > boot-up, involving a bootstrap pci-arbiter, the acpi translator, etc. > > I have put in a proposal for a talk at FOSDEM'22: > > "A practical solution for GNU/Hurd's lack of drivers: NetBSD's rumpkernel > framework" Great :D > I will prerecord the talk in the next couple of weeks. Perhaps wait for the approval of the talk? Samuel
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
Hi all, On 14/12/21 8:09 am, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Almudena Garcia, le lun. 13 déc. 2021 17:04:06 +0100, a ecrit: >>> However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be. Can you help >> suggest what I can talk about? >> Maybe could be interesting talk about the Rumpkernel implementation: >> advantages >> of this (new drivers, by example), the gnumach modifications done for this >> task, and the current status. > > I was thinking about this kind of things yes: the rumpdisk-based > boot-up, involving a bootstrap pci-arbiter, the acpi translator, etc. I have put in a proposal for a talk at FOSDEM'22: "A practical solution for GNU/Hurd's lack of drivers: NetBSD's rumpkernel framework" I will prerecord the talk in the next couple of weeks. Thanks, Damien
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
December 12, 2021 2:18 AM, "Tobias Platen" wrote: > On Sat, 2021-12-11 at 22:15 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >> Anybody interested in giving a talk? >> >> Damien perhaps? ;) > > maybe me, some time ago I started porting GNUmach to non-x86 > architectures, including 64bit PowerPC (Talos II) and ARM (BeagleBone Really? That sounds awesome! How far have you gotten? And how difficult would it be to get glibc up to date for those other archs? > black). I also experimented converting GNUmach into a LKM as Darling > does. https://github.com/darlinghq/darling-newlkm Interesting. That would be cool to be able to use the Hurd straight from GNU/Linux. > > I'm also a Libre Music Producer, I mainly use Lilypond with > festival.ly, MBROLA as an instrument and I am the developer > of QTAU, a piano roll editor for singing synthesis. >> Samuel
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
Almudena Garcia, le lun. 13 déc. 2021 17:04:06 +0100, a ecrit: > > However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be. Can you help > suggest what I can talk about? > Maybe could be interesting talk about the Rumpkernel implementation: > advantages > of this (new drivers, by example), the gnumach modifications done for this > task, and the current status. I was thinking about this kind of things yes: the rumpdisk-based boot-up, involving a bootstrap pci-arbiter, the acpi translator, etc. Samuel
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
> However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be. Can you help suggest what I can talk about? Maybe could be interesting talk about the Rumpkernel implementation: advantages of this (new drivers, by example), the gnumach modifications done for this task, and the current status. El lun, 13 dic 2021 a las 8:40, Damien Zammit () escribió: > Hi Samuel, > > On 12/12/21 8:15 am, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Anybody interested in giving a talk? > > > > Damien perhaps? ;) > > I am interested in giving a pre-prepared talk, I'd like to gain experience > creating screencast videos using free software. > > However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be. Can you > help suggest what I can talk about? > Perhaps a walkthrough of my Hurd development environment with screencast > and small webcam video with my face talking? > > I have a good microphone and audio interface, but my webcam is not so > good, so probably screencast is a good option. > > I read that OBS studio is a good way to create such videos. > > Damien > >
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 18:38 +1100, Damien Zammit wrote: > Hi Samuel, > > On 12/12/21 8:15 am, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Anybody interested in giving a talk? > > > > Damien perhaps? ;) > > I am interested in giving a pre-prepared talk, I'd like to gain > experience creating screencast videos using free software. > > However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be. Can > you help suggest what I can talk about? > Perhaps a walkthrough of my Hurd development environment with > screencast and small webcam video with my face talking? > > I have a good microphone and audio interface, but my webcam is not so > good, so probably screencast is a good option. > > I read that OBS studio is a good way to create such videos. I have been using OBS studio, last year to record a video for guix days. Tobias > > Damien >
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
Hi Samuel, On 12/12/21 8:15 am, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Anybody interested in giving a talk? > > Damien perhaps? ;) I am interested in giving a pre-prepared talk, I'd like to gain experience creating screencast videos using free software. However, I'm not sure what the content of the talk should be. Can you help suggest what I can talk about? Perhaps a walkthrough of my Hurd development environment with screencast and small webcam video with my face talking? I have a good microphone and audio interface, but my webcam is not so good, so probably screencast is a good option. I read that OBS studio is a good way to create such videos. Damien
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
On Sat, 2021-12-11 at 22:15 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Anybody interested in giving a talk? > > Damien perhaps? ;) maybe me, some time ago I started porting GNUmach to non-x86 architectures, including 64bit PowerPC (Talos II) and ARM (BeagleBone black). I also experimented converting GNUmach into a LKM as Darling does. https://github.com/darlinghq/darling-newlkm I'm also a Libre Music Producer, I mainly use Lilypond with festival.ly, MBROLA as an instrument and I am the developer of QTAU, a piano roll editor for singing synthesis. > > Samuel
Fwd: FOSDEM 2022
Anybody interested in giving a talk? Damien perhaps? ;) Samuel --- Begin Message --- Dear Samual, me and Martin Decky are organizing the microkernel devroom 2022. Maybe you or someone involved in GNU Hurd has some updates to share. Kind regards, Sebastian -- Sebastian Sumpf Genode Labs http://www.genode-labs.com · http://genode.org Genode Labs GmbH · Amtsgericht Dresden · HRB 28424 · Sitz Dresden Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske, Christian Helmuth Microkernel and Component-based OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2022 CALL FOR PARTICIPATION On-line version of this CfP: http://fosdem.microkernel.info/ The developers and users of several free and open source microkernel-based and component-based operating systems will meet on-line as part of FOSDEM 2022 [1] and will share a developer room. The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the area of microkernel-based, unikernel-based, component-based operating systems and similar topics. The devroom has been preliminarily scheduled to Saturday February 5th 2022. The devroom will take place during European day hours. Possible topics of the devroom include, but are not limited to: * introduction of a specific OS or framework * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS * languages, tools and toolchains used * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) and programming languages * development processes, debugging * maintenance, testing and release engineering * safety, security and robustness * trends and challenges * research and open questions * community and governance * use cases, experiences and status updates * best practices and lessons learned * demos This is a call for your participation. We kindly ask you to submit your proposals no later than on December 28th 2021. Please use the Pentabarf web site [2] to submit your proposals. If you already have a user account in Pentabarf, please do not create a new one. Addtionally, make sure to select the Microkernel and Component-based OS Devroom as the track when submitting your talk and include at least the following information in your proposal: * title of your talk * your full name * short abstract of your talk (one or two paragraphs) * duration of your talk (at least 20 minutes and no longer than 50 minutes) * your short bio * your photo The talks will be pre-recorded in advance in January and streamed automatically during the event. This means that you will need to complete and submit your talk recording by January 15th 2022. However, each speaker should be also present on-line just after the streaming of their talk for a live Q You can specify your prefered time slot of your talk. The communication language of the devroom is English. The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be announced on December 31st 2021 on the devroom's mailing list [3] and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published on the FOSDEM web site. For any comments, questions and suggestions (e.g. suggestions for a different type of event during the devroom), please do not hesitate to use the devroom's mailing list [3]. About the Devroom Since the first Microkernel OS Devroom at FOSDEM 2012 [4], this devroom has been a part of each following FOSDEM (with slight variations of the name). The focus gradually widened to include component-based, unikernel-based and other operating systems. By now, it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the open source operating systems community and it is one of the few places where microkernel enthusiasts and people with different views on how operating systems should work meet regularly. To this date, over a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Many of the projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different solutions. Therefore, the goal of the devroom is to bring the various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize. Extraordinary Circumstances in 2022 (Again) Due to the extraordinary mode of organization of FOSDEM 2022 (being an on-line event again), the devroom talks will be required to be pre-recorded in January and streamed during the event (with a live Q). The talk videos will be published under Creative Commons license by FOSDEM. By submitting a recorded talk, the speaker agrees to have it made available publicly indefinitively. For organizational purposes, we also need contact information of the speakers of accepted talks. Please check the official CfP page [5] of the devroom regularly. We will keep updating it as technical guidelines will be set by the FOSDEM organizers. Microkernel
Re: CfP: FOSDEM 2021 - Microkernel Devroom
This year, Hurd has got many awesome advances, like Rumpkernel. Maybe, it could be interesting that some developers explain their progress in the work during this year. El mar, 8 dic 2020 a las 9:43, Martin Decky () escribió: > Microkernel Devroom at FOSDEM 2021 > CALL FOR PARTICIPATION > > On-line version of this CfP: http://fosdem.microkernel.info/ > > The developers and users of several free and open source > microkernel-based operating systems will meet on-line as part of > FOSDEM 2021 [1] and will share a developer room. The devroom is > currently looking for content in the form of talks and activities > related to the area of microkernel-based, unikernel-based, > component-based operating systems and similar topics. > > The devroom has been preliminarily scheduled to Saturday February 6th > 2021. The devroom will take place during European day hours. > > Possible topics of the devroom include, but are not limited to: > > * introduction of a specific OS or framework > * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS > * used languages, tools and toolchains > * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) > * enabling support for programming languages > * development processes, debugging > * maintenance, testing and release engineering > * security and robustness > * trends and challenges > * community and governance > * use cases, experiences and status updates > * best practices, lessons learned and demos > > This is a call for your participation. We kindly ask you to submit > your proposals no later than on December 26th 2020. Please use the > Pentabarf website [2] to submit your proposals. If you already have > a user account in Pentabarf, please do not create a new one. > > Please make sure to select the Microkernel devroom as the track when > submitting your talk and include at least the following information > in your proposal: > > * title of your talk > * your full name > * short abstract of your talk (one or two paragraphs) > * duration of your talk (at least 20 minutes and no longer than 50 > minutes), excluding a Q part > * your short bio > * your photo > > The talks will be pre-recorded in advance in January and streamed > during the event. This means that you will need to complete and > submit your talk by around mid January. However, each speaker should > be also present on-line just after the streaming of the talk for > a live Q You can specify your prefered time slot of your talk. > The communication language of the devroom is English. > > The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be > announced on December 31st 2020 on the devroom's mailing list [3] and > the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be > published on the FOSDEM website. > > You are also invited to send any other suggestions for what you want > to see or do at the devroom to the mailing list. > > About the Devroom > > Since the first Microkernel devroom at FOSDEM 2012 [4], this devroom > has been part of each following FOSDEM. The focus gradually widened > to include component-based and unikernel-based operating systems. By > now it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the > community to meet there. To this date, over a dozen projects have > participated in one way or another. Each of the projects face similar > challenges but come up with partially different solutions. Therefore, > the goal of the devroom is to bring the various projects together, > let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize. > > Extraordinary Circumstances in 2021 > > Due to the extraordinary mode of organization of FOSDEM 2021 (being > an on-line event for the first time), many practical aspects of the > devroom are still in the process of determination. For example, the > devroom talks will be required to be pre-recorded in January and > streamed during the event (with a live Q), but the technical > details are still sketchy at this moment. > > The talk videos will be published under Creative Commons license by > FOSDEM. By submitting a recorded talk, the speaker agrees to have it > made available publicly indefinitively. For organizational purposes, > we also need contact information of the speakers of accepted talks. > > Please check the official CfP page [5] of our devroom regularly. We > will keep updating it as new guidelines will be determined by the >
CfP: FOSDEM 2021 - Microkernel Devroom
Microkernel Devroom at FOSDEM 2021 CALL FOR PARTICIPATION On-line version of this CfP: http://fosdem.microkernel.info/ The developers and users of several free and open source microkernel-based operating systems will meet on-line as part of FOSDEM 2021 [1] and will share a developer room. The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the area of microkernel-based, unikernel-based, component-based operating systems and similar topics. The devroom has been preliminarily scheduled to Saturday February 6th 2021. The devroom will take place during European day hours. Possible topics of the devroom include, but are not limited to: * introduction of a specific OS or framework * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS * used languages, tools and toolchains * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) * enabling support for programming languages * development processes, debugging * maintenance, testing and release engineering * security and robustness * trends and challenges * community and governance * use cases, experiences and status updates * best practices, lessons learned and demos This is a call for your participation. We kindly ask you to submit your proposals no later than on December 26th 2020. Please use the Pentabarf website [2] to submit your proposals. If you already have a user account in Pentabarf, please do not create a new one. Please make sure to select the Microkernel devroom as the track when submitting your talk and include at least the following information in your proposal: * title of your talk * your full name * short abstract of your talk (one or two paragraphs) * duration of your talk (at least 20 minutes and no longer than 50 minutes), excluding a Q part * your short bio * your photo The talks will be pre-recorded in advance in January and streamed during the event. This means that you will need to complete and submit your talk by around mid January. However, each speaker should be also present on-line just after the streaming of the talk for a live Q You can specify your prefered time slot of your talk. The communication language of the devroom is English. The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be announced on December 31st 2020 on the devroom's mailing list [3] and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published on the FOSDEM website. You are also invited to send any other suggestions for what you want to see or do at the devroom to the mailing list. About the Devroom Since the first Microkernel devroom at FOSDEM 2012 [4], this devroom has been part of each following FOSDEM. The focus gradually widened to include component-based and unikernel-based operating systems. By now it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the community to meet there. To this date, over a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Each of the projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different solutions. Therefore, the goal of the devroom is to bring the various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize. Extraordinary Circumstances in 2021 Due to the extraordinary mode of organization of FOSDEM 2021 (being an on-line event for the first time), many practical aspects of the devroom are still in the process of determination. For example, the devroom talks will be required to be pre-recorded in January and streamed during the event (with a live Q), but the technical details are still sketchy at this moment. The talk videos will be published under Creative Commons license by FOSDEM. By submitting a recorded talk, the speaker agrees to have it made available publicly indefinitively. For organizational purposes, we also need contact information of the speakers of accepted talks. Please check the official CfP page [5] of our devroom regularly. We will keep updating it as new guidelines will be determined by the FOSDEM organizers. Sadly, it will not be possible to arrange our traditional microkernel dinner and other in-person social gatherings in Brussels this time. However, we plan to organize an on-line replacement. The details will be announced later in January. On the other hand, the on-line nature of the devroom allows us to "overflow" to a second day in case we receive a substatial number of quality proposals. About FOSDEM FOSDEM [6] is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the widespread use of free and open source software. FOSDEM is widely recognised as one of the best such conferences worldwide. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free and open source software an
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
Joshua Branson, le jeu. 29 nov. 2018 08:11:05 -0500, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit: > >> why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year. > > > > I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good > > to see various people take the microphone :) > > Just to help you brain storm...And forgive me if these are silly ideas. Well, these are not silly ideas at all, but for a talk one needs to have a main story to tell, not only a collection of small stories, and I'm afraid I have already covered what I can talk about (flexible way to have hardware support, flexibility for the user), and Justus talked about virtualization two years ago. > Maybe you could demo [...] Demos take a very long time to make them work. Unless people help me with it (understand: give me a step-by-step process that I'll be able to just follow) I won't be able to get the time to make them work. > Perhaps you could outline a roadmap. Mmm. In the end that's what I could think of from your ideas. I have thus proposed: “ A roadmap for the Hurd? Most people don't realize it, but the Hurd system is actually well established. Between 75% and 80% of Debian official packages do build fine, it has mainstream gcc/glibc/llvm support, go and rust ports are ongoing, it can be installed with the Debian installer and GuixSD and Arch ports are ongoing... Yet not so much has been happening within the Hurd itself in the past couple of years. We have notably added a PCI arbiter, which allows for both flexible and safe PCI access for end users, and some basic ACPI support is ongoing. But many exciting features could be achieved with a bit of work. This talk will discuss some of these promising features, to give a sort of ideas roadmap for contributions. Some have implementation sketches which just need to be polished to be more production-ready, such as httpfs, mboxfs, or writing translators in more high-level languages than C. Other features are at early stage, such as adding sound support through rump, getting complete rid of disk drivers from the kernel by moving them to userland, or also getting valgrind support. I will also discuss some promising ideas, such as using libguestfs to get support for more filesystems. ” Now, that being written, I very well remember feedback from previous talks. Basically the question was "Cool project! How do I start?" I would point to the contribution page of the wiki, and notably its "Small hack entries", but apparently it is way not detailed enough for people to give them a try. Obviously, ideally enough I'd have time to develop them, but I simply don't have it. I mean, for each of these items, giving more details is not just a matter of writing them, but looking around what needs to be done, where, which RPCs, etc. I don't have enough time for that. So, while I'll be happy to give this talk, unless the community takes a stab at reworking the contribution page into workable items, I'm afraid it will not drag much more than the previous years. Samuel
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
Almudena Garcia writes: > May Damien could talk about their ACPI translator project. Or Joshua about > their wiki update work. I'm flattered that you mentioned me, but is wiki edits really something that people will want to hear about? It would probably end up being a meta talk. "You don't have to be a developer to contribute". I'm also probably not going to FOSDEM. I'd rather go to libreplanet. It's closer to me and will probably be a little cheaper. Though I do want to go to FOSDEM someday! Thanks, Joshua > > El mié., 28 nov. 2018 a las 14:46, Samuel Thibault > () escribió: > > Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit: > > why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year. > > I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good > to see various people take the microphone :) > > Samuel
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
Samuel Thibault writes: > Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit: >> why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year. > > I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good > to see various people take the microphone :) Just to help you brain storm...And forgive me if these are silly ideas. Maybe you could mention some nearly finished or half finished work that people should try to finish? like the ext3fs project, perl & python support. Someone could finish the valgrind port. I know it was a gsoc, but I'm not certain how far the student got... Perhaps you could outline a roadmap. Maybe you could mention what's the most crucial gsoc project. Maybe you could demo a python, java, or lisp translator. I have a feeling the port for those are not complete, but it would be cool to show a translator running in something other than C. :) You could mention recent news items: - You could mention the recent LLVM supporting the GNU/Hurd. - ArchHurd started up again. - the recent merge of PCI arbiter Maybe you could demo guix/shepherd running on the Hurd. It would actually be cool to see a guix config file specifying a GNU/Hurd translator. Something like (operating-system (translator (ftpfs (user samuel) (mount-point ftp: Perhaps you could mention some of the other ways to run the Hurd besides qemu. Maybe you could demo the Xen port/show people how they can run GNU/Linux and the Hurd at the same time on any computer that supports Xen. (Am I correct in thinking that this is possible?) Perhaps you could show people where/how they could set up a GNU/Hurd server, with which to play. Maybe give a few use cases where a GNU/Hurd server is more flexible than GNU/Linux. Perhaps you could demo some translators: mboxfs, xmlfs, jfs, run, etc. I suppose that the jfs is in a sad state, seeing as it's in hurd extras. And it's only read-only. ah. I didn't know that. So technically the Hurd does have a "modern-ish" journal file system. Maybe you could mention libguestfs. We could build translators out of that...Not everybody has heard of that. Would Richard by mad if we mentioned x15? You could mention how we are pulling ideas from it. > > Samuel
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
May Damien could talk about their ACPI translator project. Or Joshua about their wiki update work. El mié., 28 nov. 2018 a las 14:46, Samuel Thibault () escribió: > Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit: > > why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year. > > I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good > to see various people take the microphone :) > > Samuel >
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
Almudena Garcia, le mer. 28 nov. 2018 14:24:42 +0100, a ecrit: > why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year. I could, sure, I just don't know what I could talk about, and it's good to see various people take the microphone :) Samuel
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
why not yours? You use to talk about Hurd in FOSDEM every year. I can't talk yet: my SMP project is in a draft stage, and I don't enough information about this. This edition is too early to talk about my project. If my develop goes well, may I will can talk about this in next edition, in 2020 ;) El mié., 28 nov. 2018 a las 1:46, Samuel Thibault (< samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org>) escribió: > Hello, > > So, any volunteer for a Hurd talk at FOSDEM? > > Samuel > > Almudena Garcia, le ven. 12 oct. 2018 23:24:37 +0200, a ecrit: > > > > Forwarded message to bug-hurd list > > -- Forwarded message - > > From: Martin Stein <[1]martin.st...@genode-labs.com> > > Date: vie., 12 oct. 2018 a las 22:47 > > Subject: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP > > To: <[2]help-h...@gnu.org> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm Martin from Genode Labs, Dresden. We're organizing the "Microkernels > > and component-based OS" developer room of the FOSDEM 2019 and thought > > that maybe the GNU Hurd community could be interested in participating > > in this Devroom. What do you think? I was not sure about which of your > > mailing lists to address, so, would you mind to redirect this request to > > the one that is most appropriate? > > > > I'm looking forward to hear from you! > > Best wishes, > > Martin > > > > - FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - > > > > FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels and Component-based OSes devroom > > CALL FOR PARTICIPATION > > > > > > The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based > operating > > systems will meet at FOSDEM 2019 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share > a > > developer room on Sunday February 03, 2019 [2]. The devroom is currently > > looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the > > area of > > microkernel-, unikernel-, and componenent-based operating systems. > Possible > > topics include, but are not limited to: > > > > * introduction of a specific OS or framework > > * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS > > * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) > > * used languages and tools > > * maintenance and testing > > * security and robustness > > * trends and challenges > > * use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos > > > > Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals. You do > > not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt, > > please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a > > talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would > > like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the > > mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December the 1st 2018. > > > > Make sure to include the following in your proposal: > > > > * title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) > > * your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) > > * a short abstract (one or two paragraphs) > > * duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 55 min) > > > > The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be > > announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the > > speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published > > on the FOSDEM website. > > > > > > About FOSDEM > > > > FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the > > widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the > > beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the > > best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free > > and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to > > collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms) > > with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet > > and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss, > > hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and > > discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks, > > lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year, > > FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus. > > Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers > > gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary. > > > > > > About th
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
Hello, So, any volunteer for a Hurd talk at FOSDEM? Samuel Almudena Garcia, le ven. 12 oct. 2018 23:24:37 +0200, a ecrit: > > Forwarded message to bug-hurd list > -- Forwarded message - > From: Martin Stein <[1]martin.st...@genode-labs.com> > Date: vie., 12 oct. 2018 a las 22:47 > Subject: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP > To: <[2]help-h...@gnu.org> > > > Hi, > > I'm Martin from Genode Labs, Dresden. We're organizing the "Microkernels > and component-based OS" developer room of the FOSDEM 2019 and thought > that maybe the GNU Hurd community could be interested in participating > in this Devroom. What do you think? I was not sure about which of your > mailing lists to address, so, would you mind to redirect this request to > the one that is most appropriate? > > I'm looking forward to hear from you! > Best wishes, > Martin > > - FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - > > FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels and Component-based OSes devroom > CALL FOR PARTICIPATION > > > The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based operating > systems will meet at FOSDEM 2019 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share a > developer room on Sunday February 03, 2019 [2]. The devroom is currently > looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the > area of > microkernel-, unikernel-, and componenent-based operating systems. Possible > topics include, but are not limited to: > > * introduction of a specific OS or framework > * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS > * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) > * used languages and tools > * maintenance and testing > * security and robustness > * trends and challenges > * use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos > > Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals. You do > not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt, > please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a > talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would > like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the > mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December the 1st 2018. > > Make sure to include the following in your proposal: > > * title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) > * your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) > * a short abstract (one or two paragraphs) > * duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 55 min) > > The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be > announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the > speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published > on the FOSDEM website. > > > About FOSDEM > > FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the > widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the > beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the > best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free > and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to > collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms) > with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet > and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss, > hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and > discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks, > lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year, > FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus. > Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers > gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary. > > > About the devroom > > Since the first Microkernel devroom in 2012 this devroom has been part of > each following FOSDEM. By now it has become a somewhat institutionalized > tradition for the micro kernel community to meet there; to this date over > a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Each of the > projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different > solutions. Therefore, the goal of the Microkernel devroom is to bring the > various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and > socialize. > > > Social events > > It also has become a habit that the microkernel projects dine together > somewhere in Brussels. The year 2019 will not be any different, so there is > going to be a microkernel family dinner on Saturday night. We try place a > reservation, so
Re: FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
Martin Stein writes: > Hi, > > I'm Martin from Genode Labs, Dresden. We're organizing the "Microkernels > and component-based OS" developer room of the FOSDEM 2019 and thought > that maybe the GNU Hurd community could be interested in participating > in this Devroom. What do you think? I was not sure about which of your > mailing lists to address, so, would you mind to redirect this request to > the one that is most appropriate? Just FYI, this is the best emailing list to contact the Hurd developers. I'm not one of them though. :( > > I'm looking forward to hear from you! > Best wishes, > Martin > > - FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - > > FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels and Component-based OSes devroom > CALL FOR PARTICIPATION > > > The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based operating > systems will meet at FOSDEM 2019 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share a > developer room on Sunday February 03, 2019 [2]. The devroom is currently > looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the > area of > microkernel-, unikernel-, and componenent-based operating systems. Possible > topics include, but are not limited to: > > * introduction of a specific OS or framework > * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS > * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) > * used languages and tools > * maintenance and testing > * security and robustness > * trends and challenges > * use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos > > Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals. You do > not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt, > please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a > talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would > like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the > mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December the 1st 2018. > > Make sure to include the following in your proposal: > > * title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) > * your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) > * a short abstract (one or two paragraphs) > * duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 55 min) > > The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be > announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the > speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published > on the FOSDEM website. > > > About FOSDEM > > FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the > widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the > beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the > best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free > and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to > collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms) > with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet > and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss, > hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and > discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks, > lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year, > FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus. > Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers > gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary. > > > About the devroom > > Since the first Microkernel devroom in 2012 this devroom has been part of > each following FOSDEM. By now it has become a somewhat institutionalized > tradition for the micro kernel community to meet there; to this date over > a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Each of the > projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different > solutions. Therefore, the goal of the Microkernel devroom is to bring the > various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and > socialize. > > > Social events > > It also has become a habit that the microkernel projects dine together > somewhere in Brussels. The year 2019 will not be any different, so there is > going to be a microkernel family dinner on Saturday night. We try place a > reservation, so we will inform you about the exact location and time later. > Consult the FOSDEM web and other projects for additional social events such > as the famous FOSDEM-organized Friday Beer Event and the FOSDEM-arranged > free sightseeing tours for spouses. > > > Important dates recap > &
FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
Hi, I'm Martin from Genode Labs, Dresden. We're organizing the "Microkernels and component-based OS" developer room of the FOSDEM 2019 and thought that maybe the GNU Hurd community could be interested in participating in this Devroom. What do you think? I was not sure about which of your mailing lists to address, so, would you mind to redirect this request to the one that is most appropriate? I'm looking forward to hear from you! Best wishes, Martin ----- FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels developer room ----- FOSDEM 2019 - Microkernels and Component-based OSes devroom CALL FOR PARTICIPATION The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based operating systems will meet at FOSDEM 2019 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share a developer room on Sunday February 03, 2019 [2]. The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the area of microkernel-, unikernel-, and componenent-based operating systems. Possible topics include, but are not limited to: * introduction of a specific OS or framework * design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS * enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) * used languages and tools * maintenance and testing * security and robustness * trends and challenges * use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals. You do not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt, please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December the 1st 2018. Make sure to include the following in your proposal: * title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) * your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) * a short abstract (one or two paragraphs) * duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 55 min) The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published on the FOSDEM website. About FOSDEM FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms) with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss, hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks, lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year, FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus. Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary. About the devroom Since the first Microkernel devroom in 2012 this devroom has been part of each following FOSDEM. By now it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the micro kernel community to meet there; to this date over a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Each of the projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different solutions. Therefore, the goal of the Microkernel devroom is to bring the various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize. Social events It also has become a habit that the microkernel projects dine together somewhere in Brussels. The year 2019 will not be any different, so there is going to be a microkernel family dinner on Saturday night. We try place a reservation, so we will inform you about the exact location and time later. Consult the FOSDEM web and other projects for additional social events such as the famous FOSDEM-organized Friday Beer Event and the FOSDEM-arranged free sightseeing tours for spouses. Important dates recap * 01.12.2018: Deadline for submissions * 15.12.2018: Schedule published and speakers notified of acceptance * 03.02.2019: The devroom takes places Links [1] http://fosdem.org [2] https://fosdem.org/2019/practical/transportation [3] https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM19 [4] https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom See you all at FOSDEM!
FOSDEM 2018 - Microkernels developer room - CfP
FOSDEM 2018 - Microkernels developer room CALL FOR PARTICIPATION The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based operating systems will meet at FOSDEM 2018 [1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share a developer room on Saturday of February 3, 2018 [2]. The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the area of microkernel-based operating systems. Possible topics include, but are not limited to: * Introduction of a specific OS or framework * Design of subsystems and the general architecture of an OS * Enabling support for hardware (architectures, device drivers) * Used languages and tools * Maintenance and testing * Security and robustness * Trends and challenges * Use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos Please use the Pentabarf [3] system to submit your proposals and file it under the track “Microkernels devroom”. You do not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt, please use the devroom mailing list [4]. If you do not want to give a talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would like to see, or do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the mailing list. The deadline for your proposal is on December 8. Make sure to include the following in your proposal: * Title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) * Your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) * A short abstract (one or two paragraphs) * Duration of your talk (please, at least 25 and no longer than 45 min) The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be announced on December the 15th on the devroom's mailing list and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published on the FOSDEM website. About FOSDEM FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms) with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss, hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks, lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year, FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus. Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary. About the devroom Since the first Microkernel devroom in 2012 this devroom has been part of each following FOSDEM. By now it has become a somewhat institutionalized tradition for the microkernel community to meet there; to this date over a dozen projects have participated in one way or another. Each of the projects face similar challenges but come up with partially different solutions. Therefore, the goal of the Microkernel devroom is to bring the various projects together, let them exchange ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize. Social events It also has become a habit that the microkernel projects dine together somewhere in downtown Brussels after the devroom closes. The year 2018 will not be any different, so there is going to be a microkernel family dinner on Saturday night. The exact location and time will be specified later. Consult the FOSDEM web and other projects for additional social events such as the famous FOSDEM-organized Friday Beer Event and the FOSDEM-arranged free sightseeing tours for spouses. Important dates recap * 08.12.2017: Deadline for submissions * 15.12.2017: Schedule published and speakers notified of acceptance * 03.02.2018: The devroom takes places Links [1] http://fosdem.org/ [2] https://fosdem.org/2018/practical/transportation/ [3] https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM18 [4] https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom See you all at FOSDEM!
Re: fosdem talk?
Well the bulk of the work has been done and Guix does run on Hurd. It is still ongoing but now I am mostly solving per package problems and eliminating Linuxism in Guix now but I am not sure if this is enough for another gsoc. We can talk about it tomorrow. Btw Samuel I have a talk tomorrow at 10:50 about my GSoC work. Any Hurd guy/girl available at that time please come. :) Manolis P.S. excuse me if this mail contains any html, I am sending it from my smartphone.
Re: fosdem talk?
Hello, Michael Banck writes: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 01:57:10AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> Hello, >> > > [...] > > Also, there was the Guix on Hurd GSoC project > > I guess there are no real ideas for the next GSoC, but if there are, it > might interest/motivate some in the audience to hear about it. I may be mistaken, and Manolis may be in a better space to comment on this than me, but I think Guix on Hurd is ongoing and possibly GSoC for next year to? Cheers, Alex
Re: fosdem talk?
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 01:57:10AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > That's when I miss the nice quarterly reports we used to have: what's > new since last FOSDEM? > > For now I have only noted: > > Fixed native fakeroot > Various optimizations > - Node cache > - Lockless reference counting > - IPC table→radix tree > - Kernel memory management > New rpcscan tool On a more top-level view, we had the following releases: GNU Hurd 0.6, GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.5, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.5, GNU MIG 1.6 (not sure it makes sense to highlight the 0.6/1.5 changes, as I guess those were talked about last year?) Debian GNU/Hurd 2015 Also, there was the Guix on Hurd GSoC project I guess there are no real ideas for the next GSoC, but if there are, it might interest/motivate some in the audience to hear about it. Michael
Re: fosdem talk?
SCM_CREDS support. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thiba...@gnu.org> Date: 28/01/2016 23:57 (GMT-01:00) To: bug-hurd@gnu.org Subject: Re: fosdem talk? Hello, That's when I miss the nice quarterly reports we used to have: what's new since last FOSDEM? For now I have only noted: Fixed native fakeroot Various optimizations - Node cache - Lockless reference counting - IPC table→radix tree - Kernel memory management New rpcscan tool Samuel
Re: fosdem talk?
Hello, That's when I miss the nice quarterly reports we used to have: what's new since last FOSDEM? For now I have only noted: Fixed native fakeroot Various optimizations - Node cache - Lockless reference counting - IPC table→radix tree - Kernel memory management New rpcscan tool Samuel
Re: fosdem talk?
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2015-12-07 20:23:11) > I'll go to FOSDEM this year again. I'm considering submitting a talk to > the microkernel room, So was I. We could collaborate. > but what could I talk about? The road to Hurd 1.0 of course ;) CHeers, Justus signature.asc Description: signature
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Hello, I'll go to FOSDEM this year again. I'm considering submitting a talk to the microkernel room, but what could I talk about? Samuel
Re: fosdem talk?
How about “using the Hurd, examples on bare metal”? With examples how you do normal things (desktop) and cool things (anything with capabilities, translators or subhurds) with the Hurd? (maybe with screenshots, or live-presentation via camera to avoid having to setup wifi or such) Best wishes, Arne Am Montag, 7. Dezember 2015, 20:23:11 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Hello, > > I'll go to FOSDEM this year again. I'm considering submitting a talk to > the microkernel room, but what could I talk about? > > Samuel > -- 1w6 sie zu achten, sie alle zu finden, in Spiele zu leiten und sacht zu verbinden. → http://1w6.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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On Mon, 2015-12-07 at 20:23 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > I'll go to FOSDEM this year again. I'm considering submitting a talk to > the microkernel room, but what could I talk about? Why not talking about the recent advances with the rump kernels, future plans and a small sound demo on GNU/Hurd? Just my 5c ;)
FOSDEM 2016 - Microkernel devroom CfP
FOSDEM 2016 - Microkernel devroom CALL FOR PARTICIPATION The developers of several free and open-source microkernel-based operating systems will meet at FOSDEM 2016[1] in Brussels, Belgium and will share a developer room. The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks and activities related to the area of microkernel-based operating systems. Possible topics include, but are not limited to: * project introductory and status update talks, demos * architecture, subsystem and components' design * hardware and device drivers * tools, languages and toolchains * development, debugging, testing and release engineering * best practices and learning from mistakes * trends and challenges * community and life with a microkernel project Please use the Pentabarf[2] system to submit your proposals. You do not need to create a new account if you already have one. When in doubt, please use the devroom mailing list[3]. The deadline for your CfP submissions is on 2015-12-13. Make sure to include the following in your proposal: * title of your talk * abstract (one or two paragraphs) * your full name * your short bio * a picture of yourself * duration of your talk The official devroom schedule (along with the accepted talks) will be announced on 2015-12-18 in the devroom's mailing list and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will also be published on the FOSDEM web and in the FOSDEM booklet. The devroom will take place on Saturday of January 30, 2016 at ULB Solbosch Campus in Brussels, Belgium[4]. About FOSDEM FOSDEM is a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the widespread use of free and open source software. Taking place in the beautiful city of Brussels (Belgium), FOSDEM is widely recognised as the best such conference in Europe. FOSDEM covers a wide spectrum of free and open source software projects, and offers a platform for people to collaborate. To this end, FOSDEM has set up developer rooms (devrooms) with network/internet connectivity and projectors where teams can meet and showcase their projects. Devrooms are a place for teams to discuss, hack and publicly present latest directions, lightning talks, news and discussions. Besides developer rooms, FOSDEM also offers main tracks, lightning talks, certification exams and project stands. Every year, FOSDEM hosts more than 5000 developers at the ULB Solbosch campus. Participation and attendance is totally free, though the organisers gratefully accept donations and sponsorship. No registration necessary. About the devroom Since its inception in 2012 the Microkernel devroom has been part of each FOSDEM conference. It has become a sort of an institutionalized tradition since then. To this date over a dozen projects have participated in one way or another, delivering forty talks and other contributions in total. The goal of the Microkernel devroom has been to bring the various projects together and let them share ideas, cross-pollinate and socialize. Each year the devroom is organized by one of the projects based on a system of rotating presidency from the pool of projects that opt in. In 2016 it is HelenOS' turn again. Social events It has become a tradition that the microkernel projects dine together somewhere in downtown Brussels after the devroom closes. The year 2016 will not be any different, so there is going to be a microkernel family dinner on Saturday night. The exact location and time will be specified later. Consult the FOSDEM web and other projects for additional social events such as the famous FOSDEM-organized Friday Beer Event and the FOSDEM-arranged free sightseeing tours for spouses. Important dates 2015-10-23 CfP 2015-12-13 CfP deadline 2015-12-18 Devroom schedule published, speakers notified 2016-01-30 Microkernel devroom takes place 2016-01-30 Microkernel family dinner Links [1] http://fosdem.org/2016 [2] https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM16 [3] https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom [4] https://fosdem.org/2016/practical/transportation/
Re: FOSDEM talk?
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2015-01-30 02:02:33) Hello, About the Hurd news in my slides, in recent work, I have listed: - Init system decoupled - Allows to use standard Debian sysvinit scripts! - Using dmd for Guix such - Distributed mtab translator - Various optimizations - Protected payloads - Lockless implementations - Paging management - Improved message dispatch - Valgrind start-of-port - Merge of procfs/random to make life easier for downstream distros and in future work, I have listed the usual TODO list, plus: - Debian GNU/Hurd unofficial Jessie - Server startup in scheme? Yes please :) Justus
Re: FOSDEM talk?
Hello, About the Hurd news in my slides, in recent work, I have listed: - Init system decoupled - Allows to use standard Debian sysvinit scripts! - Using dmd for Guix such - Distributed mtab translator - Various optimizations - Protected payloads - Lockless implementations - Paging management - Valgrind start-of-port and in future work, I have listed the usual TODO list, plus: - Debian GNU/Hurd unofficial Jessie - Server startup in scheme? What am I missing? Thanks, Samuel
FOSDEM
Hi! Better late than never! Please edit/extend http://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2015/. with your data. I'll be available basically all Friday, if somebody wants to meet already. I don't really plan to bring powerful computing equipment with me (for example, for running Hurd in KVM), but I can still be convinced otherwise. Oh, and on Friday evening, there's a GNU dinner. Guests are very welcome, of course. http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3C87r3ufi0y9.fsf%40yamato.home%3E. Grüße, Thomas signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: FOSDEM
On 28 January 2015 at 15:56, Thomas Schwinge tho...@codesourcery.com wrote: Better late than never! Please edit/extend http://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2015/. with your data. Sorry, I don't have an account either. I am arriving on Friday 11:00 AM and leaving on Monday around 12PM. Oh, and on Friday evening, there's a GNU dinner. Guests are very welcome, of course. http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3C87r3ufi0y9.fsf%40yamato.home%3E. I don't think I will make it to the dinner, but count me in for a beer. I will send you my phone number in another (off-the-list) mail, so you can text me any plans if I am not around. Looking forward to see you :-D, Manolis
Re: FOSDEM talk?
Nice idea. I will be able to join you this year. Looking forward. Manolis
Re: FOSDEM talk?
Hi! On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:07:11 +0100, Román r...@riseup.net wrote: [Hurd talk in microkernel devroom at FOSDEM 2015] I would like a hurd talk about how to contribute. For example, how to fix a simple bug, create a patch... I mean the steps the developers doing when need to fix a bug. Or how to prepare an environment to test and fix bugs. How developers works. Something like Kroah-Hartman talk about creating your first Linux kernel module. Good idea, and here we go: https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/hurd/. :-) Grüße, Thomas signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: FOSDEM talk?
Hello Samuel an thanks for all your work around HURD. I would like a hurd talk about how to contribute. For example, how to fix a simple bug, create a patch... I mean the steps the developers doing when need to fix a bug. Or how to prepare an environment to test and fix bugs. How developers works. Something like Kroah-Hartman talk about creating your first Linux kernel module. The people already have the opportunity to watch your nice talks about hurd so you can prepare something more technically. Anyway thank you so much for your talks and your work. Cheers. El 13 de noviembre de 2014 02:11:49 CET, Samuel Thibault samuel.thiba...@gnu.org escribió: Hello, As usual for a few years now, there will be a microkernel room at FOSDEM, I'll be happy to make a hurd talk there, but what could I talk about? Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-hurd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141113011149.gv3...@type.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.
FOSDEM talk?
Hello, As usual for a few years now, there will be a microkernel room at FOSDEM, I'll be happy to make a hurd talk there, but what could I talk about? Samuel
FOSDEM 2015 - CfP: Microkernels DevRoom
Greetings. FOSDEM 2015 - CfP: Microkernels DevRoom I would love to announce the Call for Participation in the FOSDEM'15 Microkernel DevRoom. FOSDEM’15 will be held at the ULB Campus Solbosch on Saturday 31 January and Sunday 1 February 2015 and Microkernel devroom is scheduled on Sunday (01 February). Topics accepted include, but are not limited to: * Kernels, environments and frameworks * Hardware support: architectures, drivers * Languages and tools * Use cases, experiences, lessons learned and demos * Technical challenges and issues * Testing and support * Community building. Please use Pentabarf [1] system to submit your proposals. You do not need to create new account if you already have one. If the password is lost you can recovery it. Moreover, we have the devroom mailing list [2] Within submission please provide: * Title of your talk * Abstract, one or two paragraphs * Information about speaker: Name, bio, photo * Length of the talk. Each talk is limited to 45 minutes but can be less. Important dates: * Nov 28: Deadline for submissions * Dec 01: Speakers notified of acceptance * Dec 08: Schedule published Please do not hesitate to forward this CfP to anyone interested in participating. 1. https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM15 2. https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom -- Vasily A. Sartakov sarta...@ksyslabs.org
fosdem video
Hello, The video of my FOSDEM talk is at last polished: http://video.fosdem.org/2014/H2214/Sunday/GNUHurd_DDE_userland_device_drivers.webm Samuel
Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM
Samuel Thibault, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 18:35:44 +0100, a écrit : I look forward to watching the recorded video :-) I'm afraid there is usually no video of the microkernel room. Actually all rooms will be recorded :D (except the Java room) Samuel
Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM
On 01/02/14 10:34, Samuel Thibault wrote: Samuel Thibault, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 18:35:44 +0100, a écrit : I look forward to watching the recorded video :-) I'm afraid there is usually no video of the microkernel room. Actually all rooms will be recorded :D (except the Java room) Cool. That's what I thought. :-)
Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM
On January 31, 2014 6:35:44 PM CET, Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 12:31:39 +0100, a écrit : What's the status quo of driver support in the Hurd without DDE (very few linux old 2.0 drivers...) You mean other than network boards? That's a usual part of my talks, yes :) I look forward to watching the recorded video :-) I'm afraid there is usually no video of the microkernel room. Someone would have to bring a microphone and record it. Samuel Hi, I just got told that all Devrooms are being video taped this year, and there might even be streaming available. Michael -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 12:31:39 +0100, a écrit : What's the status quo of driver support in the Hurd without DDE (very few linux old 2.0 drivers...) You mean other than network boards? That's a usual part of my talks, yes :) I look forward to watching the recorded video :-) I'm afraid there is usually no video of the microkernel room. Someone would have to bring a microphone and record it. Samuel
GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM
Hello, On sunday afternoon, I will talk about DDE at FOSDEM. I'm now wondering: what is interesting to talk about on DDE, btw? :o) Samuel
FOSDEM
Hi! http://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2014/. Name Attending Samuel Thibault yes Thomas Schwinge yes [...]? Grüße, Thomas pgp4AnGlQhrXZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
FOSDEM 2014 - CfP: Microkernels / Component-based OSes devroom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FOSDEM 2014 - CfP: Microkernels / Component-based OSes devroom Fellow Operating System Hackers, built on the success of the microkernel devroom in the last years, FOSDEM 2014 [1] will host a devroom for developers of open-source microkernel- and component-based operating systems. The devroom is scheduled for Sunday, February 2nd, 2014. We are looking for talks in all areas related to microkernels and component-based operating systems. Possible subjects include, but are not limited to: - introduction of a specific OS or framework, - design of subsystems and general architecture of an OS, - hardware support, - success stories, experiences and lessons learned, - security and robustness, - improving the toolchain, - maintainance and testing, - higher-level languages for OS implementation, - community building. To submit a talk, please create an account at the conference's submission system [2] and select the devroom as the talk's track. Should there be any problems, please send a mail to the devroom mailing list [3]. In your submission, be sure to include: - Title and approximate length of the talk (in the General tab), - the correct track (also in the General tab), - a short abstract (in the Description tab). Talks should not exceed 45 minutes. To help us schedule, please indicate whether your talk is flexible in its length. Please submit your proposals before December 1st. We will announce acceptance and hopefully a rough schedule before Christmas. Of course, there are other ways to contribute and make this event a success, for example by doing a demo of your system. Small devices are no problem, but please check back with us, if you plan to bring larger equipment. Please forward this Call for Participation to anyone interested in participating! See you in Brussels, Julian Stecklina [1] http://fosdem.org/2014 [2] https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/ [3] https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJVRToACgkQ2EtjUdW3H9k18wCg2Bk9GUuSoB/zoInMyj4Vtmgw 19UAoJQNcTh5funOqyg6ezRz7RY9sEeI =/Kfk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: FOSDEM slides
On 2013-02-03 at 17:53, Jens Van Broeckhoven wrote: Enjoyed your talk :) Me too. -- Luca Saiu Home page: http://ageinghacker.net GNU epsilon: http://www.gnu.org/software/epsilon Marionnet: http://marionnet.org
Re: FOSDEM slides
Samuel Thibault schreef op za 02-02-2013 om 12:06 [+0100]: Hello, The FOSDEM talk went great, here are the slides: http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/2013-02-02-fosdem.pdf Samuel Enjoyed your talk :) Jens.
FOSDEM slides
Hello, The FOSDEM talk went great, here are the slides: http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/2013-02-02-fosdem.pdf Samuel
Re: Talk at fosdem
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:57:49PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: I'll surely reuse some of the material from my GHM talk (http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/slides/samuel-thibault-hurd.pdf) but people might have ideas about some things to add, notably the nifty features? I'd also mention the way the design affects security (making processes obtain due rights instead of switching from root to a less privileged user). -- Richard Braun
Talk at fosdem
If you didn't know already, I will make a talk at fosdem in the microkernel room. http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/community/meetings/fosdem_2013.html in short: “The GNU/Hurd architecture, nifty features, and latest news” I'll surely reuse some of the material from my GHM talk (http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/slides/samuel-thibault-hurd.pdf) but people might have ideas about some things to add, notably the nifty features? Samuel
[stefan.kalkow...@genode-labs.com: [Microkernel-devroom] FOSDEM 2013 - Final Schedule]
Hello, My talk for the FOSDEM has been confirmed, see below. Samuel - Forwarded message from Stefan Kalkowski stefan.kalkow...@genode-labs.com - From: Stefan Kalkowski stefan.kalkow...@genode-labs.com To: Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom mailing list. microkernel-devr...@lists.fosdem.org Subject: [Microkernel-devroom] FOSDEM 2013 - Final Schedule Reply-To: Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom mailing list. microkernel-devr...@lists.fosdem.org Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:41:09 +0100 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_50, TVD_RCVD_SPACE_BRACKET autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Message-ID: 50dc33d5.80...@genode-labs.com Organization: Genode Labs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 List-Id: Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom mailing list. microkernel-devroom.lists.fosdem.org Dear devroom participants, sorry for the delay regarding the final schedule announcement. It was really hard to find a solution with respect to the numerous, interesting submissions. I'd like to thank all people for their proposals. After trying hard to arrange a balanced schedule, here is the outcome: 11:00-11:15 Welcome 11:20-12:00 The GNU/Hurd architecture, nifty features, and latest news 12:05-12:35 Every cloud has a silver lining and what we can learn from it 12:40-13:10 Rathaxes - A DSL for device driver development --- break --- 14:00-14:40 OS Hot Topics 14:45-15:25 Reaching puberty - How Genode is becoming a general-purpose OS 15:30-16:00 Microkernels and You - long path of the small project 16:05-16:40 HelenOS: last year at a glance 16:45-17:25 The NOVA Microhypervisor Interface 17:30-18:10 Romain: OS Support for Replicating Binary Applications 18:15-19:00 Panel discussion Regarding the discussion that took place, whether we should have a demo slot, panel discussion, or some kind of collective taxonomy development: Due to the short time that is left beside the talks, I've chosen Martin's proposal of having a moderated, short panel discussion with all project's on location. Nevertheless, to enable a demo session, and have more time for open discussion, I'll ask the FOSDEM team for some small room on Sunday not necessarily mentioned in the official booklet. Although, chances are low due to limited room capacities. Looking forward to see you in Brussels happy new year! -- Stefan Kalkowski Genode Labs http://www.genode-labs.com/ · http://genode.org/ ___ Microkernel-devroom mailing list microkernel-devr...@lists.fosdem.org https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom - End forwarded message - -- Samuel --- christ gives channel operator status to Dieu -+- #ens-mim and hell -+-
Re: FOSDEM 2012 -- devroom dedicated to [multiserver] microkernels, or generic alt-OS
Hi! There will be a ``multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom'' at FOSDEM, February, Bruxelles, and there is a call for papers, https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2011-November/001348.html. The formal deadline is tomorrow, but I'm very sure that later proposals will still be accepted, as there aren't many, so far. On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:01:01 +0200, I wrote: Are we interested in this? I said we generally are, but that I have no idea how many of us will make it to FOSDEM next year. Then, our group will need to find things to do in the devroom, provide a portion of the content. This can be (but is not limited to): presentations, brainstorming, coding sessions. Please answer quickly. Are you interested in this? Can you already forsee whether you'll make it to FOSDEM next year, 4th/5th February 2012, http://fosdem.org/2012/. The wiki page http://www.bddebian.com:/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2012 is still populated pretty sparsely -- any takers? Enjoy the last hours of 2011; it surely won't ever come back! Grüße, Thomas pgpaa5xix7JJ5.pgp Description: PGP signature
FOSDEM 2012 - Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom
FOSDEM 2012 - Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom *CALL FOR PARTICIPATION* http://fosdem.org/2012 (apologies for cross-posting) The developers of several free and open-source multiserver and/or microkernel-based operating systems will meet at FOSDEM 2012 in Brussels, Belgium and will share a developer room. The devroom is currently looking for content in the form of talks related to the area of multiserver and/or microkernel-based operating systems. Possible topics include, but are not limited to: OS introduction to developers of other OS Subsystems and architecture Hardware and device drivers Tools and languages Release engineering and testing Experience and learning from mistakes Technical challenges Community and life with an OS-project Academia and education Please send your talk proposal(s) to: microkernel-devr...@lists.fosdem.org no later than by 2011-12-31. Make sure to include the following in your proposal: - title of your talk (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) - your full name (will be printed in the FOSDEM booklet) - your short bio giving us some idea of who you are and what is your relation to and qualification for the subject of your talk - number of 15-minute slots that you need for the talk (talks longer than 45 minutes are discouraged) The final devroom schedule (along with accepted talks) will be announced on 2012-01-9 (Jan 9) in: microkernel-devr...@lists.fosdem.org and the speakers will be notified via e-mail. The schedule will be also published on the FOSDEM web and in the FOSDEM booklet after 2012-01-21. If you do not want to or cannot give a talk yourself, you may still send suggestions for what else you would like to see/hear/do in the devroom. Please send your suggestions to the above mailing list. The devroom is scheduled for Sunday of February 5, room K.3.201. The seating capacity of the room is 85 seats. Any changes will be announced in the above mailing list. Jakub Jermar
FOSDEM 2012 -- devroom dedicated to [multiserver] microkernels, or generic alt-OS
Hi! I was contacted by jermar on IRC, a developer of HelenOS, which is another multiserver microkernel based OS, http://www.helenos.org/. He and also some folks from the MINIX3 group were thinking whether to propose a developer room for the upcoming FOSDEM 2012. The idea is for having a devroom dedicated to [multiserver] microkernels, or a generic alt-OS room as a fallback. The deadline for applications is in three days already. Are we interested in this? I said we generally are, but that I have no idea how many of us will make it to FOSDEM next year. Then, our group will need to find things to do in the devroom, provide a portion of the content. This can be (but is not limited to): presentations, brainstorming, coding sessions. Please answer quickly. Are you interested in this? Can you already forsee whether you'll make it to FOSDEM next year, 4th/5th February 2012, http://fosdem.org/2012/. Grüße, Thomas pgpUzXEPsTqJw.pgp Description: PGP signature
FOSDEM 2011
Hallo! FOSDEM 2011 is not too far, 2011-02-05 / 06. http://fosdem.org/2011/. Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend this year. If you're interested in staying with other Hurd / FSF Europe folks, you can talk to Rainer Kersten r...@office.fsfeurope.org who will handle booking rooms at Hotel Astrid, EUR 75 / 84 for single / double room including american breakfast buffet. These devrooms could be interesting: * GNU, http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/fosdem/GHM.html. * New Challenges in Virtualization, http://nciv2011.v2.cs.unibo.it/doku.php, cf. my email about Virtual Square / View-OS, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-10/msg5.html. * distributions miniconference, http://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2010-November/001052.html. Grüße, Thomas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hurd - fosdem
Am Donnerstag, 4. März 2010 17:41:44 schrieb Mikel Olasagasti: Sure! But if I made any big mistake due my english level, please, fix it :P OK, thanks! I think your english is nicely readable (but I'm no native either). 04/03/2010 06:53 a.m.(e)an, Arne Babenhauserheide(e)k idatzi zuen: could you repost your message to bug-hurd? I'd like to link to it in the news Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2010 11:18:12 schrieb Mikel Olasagasti: Hi, The room was full and people was standing-up for the talk. Some people even couldn't enter to the room (+20?). Antrik made a good job. Was nice for the crowd to see Hurd running X, slow but working. The unique problem maybe was the short time available. The machine needed to be fsck-ed losing some time, which could be used at the end for QA which was being interesting. Best wishes, Arne --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- Ein Mann wird auf der Straße mit einem Messer bedroht. Zwei Polizisten sind sofort da und halten ein Transparent davor. Illegale Szene. Niemand darf das sehen. Der Mann wird ausgeraubt, erstochen und verblutet, denn die Polizisten haben beide Hände voll zu tun. Willkommen in Deutschland. Zensur ist schön. ( http://draketo.de/stichwort/zensur ) --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Fosdem results and recording
Hi, Am Freitag, 12. Februar 2010 17:42:59 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: Nope, no recordings. Damn, maybe I'll manage to be there next year - or maybe omeone else will be. I had some technical problems with my presentations, because I didn't get around to prepare some things properly. Nevertheless the reception seemed pretty well as far as I can tell... Did you already upload your presentation - or the notes? There were some people interested in them in identi.ca Best wishes, Arne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Fosdem results and recording
Hi, On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 10:53:48AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: I had two requests via identi.ca if there are records of the Hurd talks on Fosdem, so: does anyone record? Nope, no recordings. And if you read this after Fosdem: How did it work out? I had some technical problems with my presentations, because I didn't get around to prepare some things properly. Nevertheless the reception seemed pretty well as far as I can tell... -antrik-
Re: news 2010-01: Arch Hurd, FOSDEM preparations and a thesis on mobile Hurd objects
published on bbdebian. Sorry for the short notice. The current news reads like this: … PS: As usual you can get the news beforehand in the master-news_next branch of the wiki (git). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
news 2010-01: Arch Hurd, FOSDEM preparations and a thesis on mobile Hurd objects
Hi, Sorry for the short notice. The current news reads like this: This month saw the first booting version of an [Arch GNU Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), which seconds the distribution from [Debian](http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/) which already gives you 66% of the debian software archive. Also we organized a meeting at FOSDEM, February 6th and 7th in Bruxelles, where [8 Hurd developers will meet](http://www.bddebian.com/~hurd- web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010/). Six of us will stay in Hotel Astrid with the FSFE folks. On Sunday 7th, Olaf Buddenhagen will be giving two presentations in the [Alt-OS Devroom](http://dev.haiku- os.org/wiki/FOSDEM2010AltOSDevroomSchedule): *Why is Anyone Still Working on the GNU Hurd?* (10:30) and *Porting KGI graphics drivers from Linux to GNU Hurd* (13:00). And Carl Fredrik Hammar [finished and presented](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug- hurd/2010-01/msg00078.html) his thesis [Generalizing mobility for the Hurd] (http://users.student.lth.se/cs07fh9/2009-hammar-hurd-mobility.pdf) and passed with distinction. Its abstract reads: *The GNU Hurd features mobile objects in its implementation of filesystem backing stores. This thesis investigates the limitations and security concerns these objects present, and how they can be overcome. This is done in preparation for new applications that feature mobile code and mobile objects. In addition, one such application is studied and implemented, in which mobile code is used to make the ioctl system call more extensible.* Please add anything important I missed (I still have problems with my email program, so quite a few things might have slipped past me). I'll merge and push tomorrow... Best wishes, Arne PS: As usual you can get the news beforehand in the master-news_next branch of the wiki (git). -- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- - Ein Würfel System - einfach saubere Regeln - http://1w6.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [Ghm-discuss] GNU at FOSDEM 6-7 Feb 2010
Hello! On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 11:25:00AM +, Brian Gough wrote: As you may know, there will be a GNU get-together at FOSDEM and a GNU booth jointly with FSFE. I've made a summary page at http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2010/fosdem/ of the details I'm aware of. There are GNUstep, GNOME and Free Java devrooms at FOSDEM, so quite a lot of GNU people are attending. Hurd folks will stay together with FSFE / GNU folks too, this year; you may want to link to the freshly updated http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/community/meetings/fosdem_2010.html from the GHM page, as well as update the list of participants. Looking forward to seeing you all there! And if someone still wants to join in -- it's not too late! Regards, Thomas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: FOSDEM 2010
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 04:37:12AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:01:41AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: FOSDEM 2010 is slowly approaching. A few Hurd types have shown interest in meeting there, so I created http://www.thomas.schwinge.homeip.net/hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010.html for coordination. Beware that web-editing (and the whole of bddebian HTTP) is still down due to this Perl crash I (or someone else, of course) needs to have a look at. But you can either use the Git interface, cf. http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/contributing/web_pages.html, for doing any changes, or tell me by email or on IRC (tschwinge on freenode.net). As the wiki is kinda-working again now, I think it's right to use http://www.bddebian.com/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010/ ? Also, I think it would be good to mention that there will be an alt-os devroom, where we will surely hang out -- and hopefully could give a talk or two as well... The submission deadline for the alt-os devroom has been extended till the end of January 4th: http://groups.google.com/group/rosetta-os/browse_thread/thread/16964e21bef27116 Francois Revol (the chairmain of the devroom) turned up in #hurd today and requested submissions: mmu_screen I'd really like to see a Hurd demo :) His email address is re...@free.fr. Michael
Re: FOSDEM 2010
Hi, On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:01:41AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: FOSDEM 2010 is slowly approaching. A few Hurd types have shown interest in meeting there, so I created http://www.thomas.schwinge.homeip.net/hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010.html for coordination. Beware that web-editing (and the whole of bddebian HTTP) is still down due to this Perl crash I (or someone else, of course) needs to have a look at. But you can either use the Git interface, cf. http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/contributing/web_pages.html, for doing any changes, or tell me by email or on IRC (tschwinge on freenode.net). As the wiki is kinda-working again now, I think it's right to use http://www.bddebian.com/~hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010/ ? Also, I think it would be good to mention that there will be an alt-os devroom, where we will surely hang out -- and hopefully could give a talk or two as well... -antrik-
FOSDEM 2010
Hello! FOSDEM 2010 is slowly approaching. A few Hurd types have shown interest in meeting there, so I created http://www.thomas.schwinge.homeip.net/hurd-web/community/meetings/fosdem_2010.html for coordination. Beware that web-editing (and the whole of bddebian HTTP) is still down due to this Perl crash I (or someone else, of course) needs to have a look at. But you can either use the Git interface, cf. http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/contributing/web_pages.html, for doing any changes, or tell me by email or on IRC (tschwinge on freenode.net). So far, I only added Neal and myself to that page, but I think that Olaf, Michael, Anatoly also considered going. What about the other usual suspects? What about our GSoC folks, or Carl Fredrik with his Hurd-related masters thesis? Or our new Debian porters? I added stubs for all of you, so just shoot. :-) Likewise everyone else who wants to meet their favorite Hurd developer. Duck et al., what about HurdFr? If not going separately as a group, of course feel free to register at that page, too. Regards, Thomas
[rev...@gmail.com: Call for participation to the Alt-OS devroom at FOSDEM]
Hi, I'm going -- who else? :-) -antrik- - Forwarded message from mmu_man rev...@gmail.com - Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:56:17 -0800 (PST) From: mmu_man rev...@gmail.com To: Rosetta rosetta...@googlegroups.com Subject: Call for participation to the Alt-OS devroom at FOSDEM Reply-To: rosetta...@googlegroups.com During the previous edition of the Free and Open Source Software Developer's European Meeting (FOSDEM) http://fosdem.org/, several alternative FOSS Operating System projects (Haiku http://haiku-os.org/ , ReactOS http://www.reactos.org/) shared booths, but there were discussions about going beyond presenting each projects on its own, and instead seek cooperation. Recently, at the Google Summer of Code mentor summit, other OS projects gathered and formed the Rosetta OS group http://code.google.com/p/rosetta-os/ to work on driver sharing. This year, the FOSDEM (in Brussels, 6-7th February 2010) will host the Alt-OS devroom on sunday from 9:00 to 17:00, organized by members of the Rosetta OS project. This devroom is meant as a place for Free and OpenSource Alternative Operating System projects to share ideas and work on topics like: * distinguishing design and features, * device drivers and how to share them, * sharing code for internal components, * internal usage of other FOSS projects to build upon, * application portability, * interoperability, * file formats, * extended attributes... We are interested to hear about your OS projects, how they are designed, and what they could eventually share for other projects' benefit. In addition to all FOSS OS projects, any application project that is seeking new target platforms is invited. Featured projects will include participants from the Rosetta OS project which charter http:// code.google.com/p/rosetta-os/wiki/RosettaOSCharter matches our devroom goal. As time allows, we are also interested in transversal subjects in cooperation with other devrooms. As an example, possible topics could include: * unusual package management with the Crossdistro room, * standardization of GUI elements and behavior with the Crossdesktop devroom, * scalability with the Embedded devroom, * ways in which BSD drivers were reused in your project, * concerns about porting Java, * Gallium3D port progress reports... The format of the talks can vary, from 45min large speech to 15 min general project presentation, or hand-on hacking session. = Proposals = Proposals should be sent to François Revol by mail: revol AT free DOT fr Your proposal should include: * duration (in 15 minute blocks -- please stick with that granularity, as it will make the schedule somewhat easier to follow for visitors), * activity title (please try to be descriptive, there are ~250 talks at FOSDEM during the week-end ;)), * a short abstract (1-2 paragraphs), * a longer description if appropriate, * optionally a list of links to the project website or similar * for each speaker: * the speaker's real name, * a short overview of her bio in a couple of lines, * optionally also a longer bio, * optionally a picture (please send it to us as 128x128 PNG), * optionally links to her website, blog, ... Plain-text format is preferred by the FOSDEM team, it makes their life easier, something like: -- John Doe john@example.org John is currently working as a freelancer and spends most of his free time contributing to various opensource projects, most prominently on libjohndoe. John currently lives in England with his wife, 2 kids and a bunch of kitten. He loves spending his time walking around in the woods, and of course kitten. He has a masters degree in kitten science, which helps him a lot with coding. blog: http://johndoe.example.org/blog/ attached: john_doe.png -- = Deadline = The deadline for submissions is 2009-12-25, please try to stick to it. Acceptance notification on 2009-12-31. = Organization = The room provided by the FOSDEM team has: * room number AW1.105 with 48 seats, * a video projector with VGA cable, * wireless internet. We will try to provide a wifi router with ethernet ports for demonstrations since we know many projects do not have functional wifi drivers yet. We will also try to provide a laptop to load your slides on if you can't use your own machine. It is advised to see with your project supporting associations for possible reimbursement of travel and hosting cost, since the FOSDEM team cannot help there. Attendance is free however. Also remember to check other devroom calls as well as the call for lightning talks http://fosdem.org/2010/call_for_lightningtalks, for subjects that might not fit our topics of interest. = Projected schedule = 9:00 Welcome (15min) 9:15 Rosetta OS project morning project presentations, design... afternoon more projects, workshops... 16:45 Closing (15min) - End forwarded message -
[rev...@gmail.com: FOSDEM 2010 Devroom for Alt-OS accepted]
- Forwarded message from mmu_man rev...@gmail.com - Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:59:17 -0800 (PST) From: mmu_man rev...@gmail.com To: Rosetta rosetta...@googlegroups.com Subject: FOSDEM 2010 Devroom for Alt-OS accepted Reply-To: rosetta...@googlegroups.com I just got notified that the devroom was accepted : Your request for a devroom at FOSDEM 2010 has been accepted, and we will put the following at your disposal: - room AW1.105 with 48 seats, - a video projector with VGA cable, - wireless internet, (I'll probably try to bring a wifi router to get wires from it since I'm not sure the haiku wifi stack will be done by then, and ditto for others.) for 1 day, on Sunday 7th February from 09:00 to 17:00 Now we need to fill it. Please reply with your proposals. I'll at least talk about porting OSS4and probably something else about Haiku. François. - End forwarded message -
Fwd: Fwd: [haiku-development] non-linux devroom at FOSDEM ?
Hi, This sounds pretty interesting. I guess at least a few of us will be at FOSDEM, and could attend this? I've subscribed to the group now BTW. Too bad we missed out on the GSoC mentor summit, where it originally came into being :-) -antrik- -- Forwarded message -- From: mmu_man rev...@gmail.com Date: Nov 20, 7:32 pm Subject: Fwd: [haiku-development] non-linux devroom at FOSDEM ? To: Rosetta Hi there ! I will try to attend the FOSDEM. I am not yet sure whether my schedule allows it but things look good up to now. I am looking forward to meeting other Rosetta-OS people. :-) Me too... If you want to participate in a non-linux devroom make sure you fill the form:http://fosdem.org/2010/call_for_developer_rooms quoting you would like to be part of a non-linux devroom, either as part of the distro ones or separately. If enough non-linux projects request a devroom maybe we'll get one... Here is what I filled, you should probably reuse the name: --- * devroom name: Alt-OS (Anything-but-Linux-disTro Operating System) * devroom description: Talks and workshops about alternative (non Linux based) opensource operating systems, in the purpose of sharing experience on application ports, common driver development and design differences. Possible talks include : - POSIX *nix compatibility coverage of alternative OSes (example from Haiku...) - *nix app porting tricks (autoconf, ...) - OSSv4 port considerations - status of the NetSurf port to Haiku Possible workshops include : - porting a command line application to Haiku - porting a FreeBSD network driver to Haiku - native hello world GUI application on Haiku * devroom related URLs:http://www.haiku-os.org/http:// groups.google.com/group/rosetta-os?pli=1http://opensound.com/http:// netsurf-browser.org/ * comments/remarks: It could either be done as part of the distro miniconf, or as a separate room. We would actually welcome discussions with distro projects too, on subjects like package management for example. Possible projects interested in joining in: RTEMShttp://www.rtems.com/ Minixhttp://www.minix3.org/ AROShttp://aros.org/ ReactOShttp://www.reactos.org/fr/index.html Syllablehttp://web.syllable.org/pages/index.html Other participants in the Rosetta OS (discussion group about non-linux FOSS OSes)http://groups.google.com/group/rosetta-os?pli=1 --- I'd suggest you also fill the form to show the orga how much demand there is for it. We'll get an answer by 2009-11-29. You can also ask for a booth:http://fosdem.org/2010/call_for_stands I just sent the Haiku request. The general call for participation:http://fosdem.org/2010/ call_for_participation François.
[URGENT] non-linux devroom at FOSDEM
Hello! FYI, from #hurd (freenode), a few hours ago: | mmu_man | http://groups.google.com/group/rosetta-os/browse_thread/thread/f3b0bcf874ca5cd9/8366b630272cb94e#8366b630272cb94e | Fwd: [haiku-development] non-linux devroom at FOSDEM ? | mmu_man I'm trying to organize a shared non-linux freesoftware OS | devroom at FOSDEM this year | mmu_man the idea didn't pick up last year but maybe this time... the | FOSDEM team is trying to group linux distros in less rooms, maybe we | can get one for us to gather | mmu_man we could have talks about driver app porting, share design | concerns... | mmu_man I can talk about OSSv4 porting I did to Haiku... | mmu_man if anyone wants to participate, please read and fill the form | on the fosdem website, before sunday 22nd :) | mmu_man (btw, this Rosetta OS group was created recently after a | non-linux meetup at the GSoC mentor summit to try to share efforts | in driver writing, currently some people from Haiku, Minix and RTEMS | are visible there) Regards, Thomas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: FOSDEM 2008
Samuel Thibault, le Thu 07 Feb 2008 10:10:14 +, a écrit : Grembl, it looks like we waited too long: the Bruegel is already full. I've tried a few others, and it seems quite hard to find something below 30€/night. Ok, good news! According to the wiki information, I booked rooms at The Moon Hotel, Rue de la Montagne 4B - one triple room for the night of Thirsday 21 - two double rooms and two double rooms for the nights of Friday 22, Saturday 23 and Sunday 24. (these were the last rooms of the hotel) i.e. 3+10*3 nights for a total cost of 1104€, which makes 33.5€/night. in each room there is a double bed, so some people will have to be couples :) For now, we have - Bas girlfriend - Gianluca Samuel - Marcus Thomas - ?? Breakfast is included, there is hotspot wifi Samuel
Re: FOSDEM 2008
Samuel Thibault, le Fri 08 Feb 2008 09:18:45 +, a écrit : Samuel Thibault, le Thu 07 Feb 2008 10:10:14 +, a écrit : Grembl, it looks like we waited too long: the Bruegel is already full. I've tried a few others, and it seems quite hard to find something below 30€/night. Ok, good news! According to the wiki information, I booked rooms at The Moon Hotel, Rue de la Montagne 4B I forgot to say: check-in can be between 13:00 and 00:00, departure is before 11:00 Samuel
Re: FOSDEM 2008
Grembl, it looks like we waited too long: the Bruegel is already full. I've tried a few others, and it seems quite hard to find something below 30€/night. Samuel
Re: FOSDEM 2008
Not from my side, no. But as long as we don't even know who'll be attending FOSDEM, we can't make any decision whether to rent an appartement or not, in my opinion. I guess that it's too late for renting an appartment nevertheless. I'd be fine with staying in the youth hostel again, where we've been for the last two years. Samuel, would you be fine with giving them a phone call again? Sure, however, I need precise dates to be able to reserve rooms. For now, I've put a large estimation on the wiki, please check your dates and fix if needed. I'll call them tomorrow morning with the rough estimation to check for availability. Samuel
Re: FOSDEM 2008
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:27:36PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always some uncertainty in such matters. But I have little doubt we could get a reasonable number of people together *if* somebody would actually take up organising it. It's all about taking initiative. However it seems there is nobody able and/or willing to do so, and consequently the matter is pretty much settled... So basically what you are saying is that you are unwilling to organize it. Michael ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Re: FOSDEM 2008
Hello! On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 07:50:52PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: Just a reminder: Thomas Schwinge, le Wed 07 Nov 2007 20:20:54 +0100, a écrit : Already some weeks ago I installed a coordination page into the wiki: http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/community/meetings/fosdem_2008/. Please add yourself. ... or tell someone else with a wiki account to add you. Marcus and I as well intend to arrive one or two days before FOSDEM and leave one or two days after. The same procedure as every year. Not set in stone yet, but that's the idea. If we want to stay in an appartment this year, instead of again staying in a youth hostel, we'd need someone to organize that. No news about this? Not from my side, no. But as long as we don't even know who'll be attending FOSDEM, we can't make any decision whether to rent an appartement or not, in my opinion. Regards, Thomas signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Re: FOSDEM 2008
Hello! I was mostly absent for the last weeks. On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:20:54PM +0100, I wrote: FOSDEM 2008 is nearly there. OK, not quite yet (February 23rd/24th), but planning for it definitely is. Already some weeks ago I installed a coordination page into the wiki: http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/community/meetings/fosdem_2008/. Please add yourself. Still valid. If we want to stay in an appartment this year, instead of again staying in a youth hostel, we'd need someone to organize that. Still valid. The ``Call for Developer Rooms and Stands'' has been posted at http://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2007-November/000302.html Question: do we want to have a Developer Room for giving talks, doing hacking, etc.? I only got feedback from Olaf and Bas, who would both have been willing to give talks, as well as Marcus and Neal might have been willing, too. However, the deadline for registration of the devrooms passed on 2007-11-26. I didn't register, did someone else? Why didn't I register? I simply missed the deadline. Why did I miss the deadline? Because for me it was quite disappointing that nobody of all the other people to which this email of mine was sent to, took the half of a minute to say something like: ``Yes, I'm not (yet sure if I'm) going to give a talk, but I like the idea, please try to register a room.'' or whatever. If we want to achieve something as banal as registering a devroom, it's not only me who has to get active to register the room, but it's also the whole community to back this up. This has been missing mostly. Regards, Thomas signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
FOSDEM 2008
Hello! FOSDEM 2008 is nearly there. OK, not quite yet (February 23rd/24th), but planning for it definitely is. Already some weeks ago I installed a coordination page into the wiki: http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/community/meetings/fosdem_2008/. Please add yourself. If we want to stay in an appartment this year, instead of again staying in a youth hostel, we'd need someone to organize that. The ``Call for Developer Rooms and Stands'' has been posted at http://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2007-November/000302.html Question: do we want to have a Developer Room for giving talks, doing hacking, etc.? What do we have to tell? Whom do we want to tell? Do we want to reach arbitrary people that don't know how to spell ``Hurd'' yet, or rather do some BoF-like sessions, i.e., internal presentations? Some first thoughts, and to drop some names: A bunch of people have been hacking on kernels at the moment and could present their findings: Bas Wijnen, Gianluca Guida, Johan Rydberg, Marcus Brinkmann, Neal Walfield, Richard Braun, Samuel Thibault, Tom Bachmann. Richard has been working for his university thesis on the Mach reimplementation X-15. Samuel has been working on Xen-Mach. Gianluca, as well as Samuel, is also working on Xen stuff these days. Bas, Marcus, Neal and Tom worked on kernel stuff (more or less) with respect to what's currently being called Hurd-NG. Johan was at least working on kernel stuff in the past time. I'm quite sure that Marcus and Neal would find a topic (or two) worth presenting, what about the others? Fredrik Hammar was working on libchannel during the summer, being mentored by Richard and Olaf Buddenhagen. This work would be worth presenting. Stefan Siegl recently implemented support for IPv6 into pfinet. Would this be a topic for a presentation? Or about the Hurdy libfuse? Myself, I also have an idea about what to work on and present it afterwards -- if at all I get some results until FOSDEM, which might be difficult, as there are a bunch of maintenance tasks I'm supposed to be working on before getting on to my fancy ideas, sadly. Other people interested in doing a presentation (or two)? Please answer quickly, as the Developer Rooms have to be requested real soon now. (And there's, of course, no guarantee that we'll be assigned one at all.) Regards, Thomas signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Re: FOSDEM 2008
Hi, On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:20:54PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: Question: do we want to have a Developer Room for giving talks, doing hacking, etc.? Yes, I think we should try to get one if we can. People attending get much more out of the conference this way. What do we have to tell? Whom do we want to tell? Do we want to reach arbitrary people that don't know how to spell ``Hurd'' yet, or rather do some BoF-like sessions, i.e., internal presentations? According to my own experience, the devrooms at FOSDEM generally tend to be rather BoF-like. (They are developer rooms after all, right? ;-) ) FOSDEM has way too much other interesting stuff to offer, to hope for anyone but people already seriously interested in the topic to drop by. Only extremely catchy topics (like e.g. Xgl in the X devroom in 2006) will attract outsiders. Thus, I think the answer is pretty clear: We should focus on exchanging knowledge and ideas amongst people interested in the Hurd. IMHO that's also what this community is most sorely missing, so it really makes sense... If we come up with some talk that indeed could attract a wider audience, I think we should rather try to get that one into one of the main tracks. Other people interested in doing a presentation (or two)? If people don't mind rather abstract topics -- more in the realm of ideas to work on than stuff one can actually use right now -- I should have no difficulty doing a presentation or two :-) -antrik- ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Hurd people gathering: FOSDEM 2007
Hello! In case you don't know already, FOSDEM 2007 (Bruxelles, Belgium, 2007-02-24 to 25) is getting nearer. Wouter van Heyst offered to search for suitable accommodation, also perhaps for some days before the conference and after, like in the last years. For that task to be accomplishable for him, we need to know a) if you want to stay with us people there at all and if yes, then b) when you intend to arrive at Bruxelles and when you're going to leave again. On http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hug/FOSDEM2007 there is a table to register that information and further links are provided as well. If you don't want to or can't edit the table yourself, then don't hesitate to tell me. Please answer soon. Regards, Wouter and Thomas signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
FOSDEM 2007
Hello! We should pull ourselves together and announce who will be at FOSDEM (Brussels, Belgium; http://fosdem.org/2007/) in February. On 24th and 25th is the conference, but no one can stop us from already meeting earlier or staying longer. And even more importantly, we need statements who would like to stay with us together in an appartment during those days; the wiki page at http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hug/FOSDEM2007 still looks a bit sparse with regard to that. So, please, either update it yourself or tell me to do it for you. After having stayed in a youth hostel last year, Wouter van Heyst (LarstiQ) offered to take a look-around for a suitable appartment this year, but that should happen rather now than later and for that we need to know for how many people we have to calculate. Regards, Thomas signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
CALL FOR PAPERS for the 5th EMBEDDED track at FOSDEM 2007
CALL FOR PAPERS for the 5th EMBEDDED track at FOSDEM 2007 = sat 24 - sun 25 February 2007, Brussels Call for papers The 2007 edition of FOSDEM (Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting; http://www.fosdem.org) will take place in Brussels, Belgium on 24 and 25 February 2007. For the fifth time, a track on Embedded Systems and Operating Systems will be organized. The fourth edition was quite succesful and attracted up to 150 attendants for certain topics. For last year's program see: http://www.embedded-kernel-track.org/2006/papers.html The use of Free Software in the infrastructure of Embedded Systems is booming, e.g. by the use of Linux, uClinux, eCos, RedBoot, RTEMS and many other Free Software components. More companies are supporting Embedded Free Software every day because of the reliability and cheap licensing. This can be confirmed from looking at some high profile releases of embedded GNU/Linux systems. Some examples are the Nokia 770, some models of Motorola's smartphones and Archos media players. Not to forget the popular TomTom navigation system, the numerous SOHO routers and NAS devices based on linux. Operating System development has always been a very important topic in Free Software. As embedded and real-time systems typically have special OS requirements, we organise this Free Embedded and OS development track at FOSDEM to give people the opportunity to present their (or their teams) achievements. This track at FOSDEM provides a remarkable opportunity to present and discuss the ongoing work in these areas, and we invite developers to present their current projects. Technical topics of the conference include but are not limited to : * OS Development : kernel architecture and implementation, libraries, power management, TIPC, boot time and memory usage optimizations (e.g. Linux, BSD, uClinux, uClibc, newlib, slob allocator,...) * Practical experiences in implementing Free Software in embedded systems (e.g. reverse engineering, porting to (and adapting of) commercial devices like the Ipaq, linksys WRT54G, nlsu2 ) * Toolchain, performance testing and build environment (e.g. crosstool, emdebian, openembedded, PTX dist, packaging, scratchbox, Eclipse, Valgrind,...) * GUIs for embedded systems (Gtk, Qt-(embedded), GPE, Qtopia, UI design with touchscreen, Hildon GUI extensions, OpenMoko, OpenGL ES, ...) * Multimedia applications for embedded systems (e.g. integer only decoders, Opieplayer, gstreamer... ) * Real-time extensions, nanokernels and hardware virtualization software (e.g. RTAI, Adeos, KURT, L4, Qemu, User Mode Linux, VirtualLogix, high resolution timers, ...) * Hard real-time OS's (eCos, RTEMS, Real Time Linux,...) * Open hardware, DSP, softcores and general hardware management (e.g opencores.org, OpenRISC, leonSparc, FPGA's, specific design restrictions for free systems, DSP, Power management...) * Safety and security certifications applied to Free software (e.g. security measures in Embedded systems, TPM, SELinux for embedded, TrustZone, ...) * Tools and techniques for programming multicore systems * Free software licenses and embedded systems Authors that wish to present a topic are requested to submit their abstracts online to [EMAIL PROTECTED] before 14/01/2007. Notification of receipt will be sent within 48 hours. Authors wishing to submit a full paper (between 6 and 12 A4 pages), can do so in PS or PDF format. The Program Committee will evaluate the abstracts and consists of: * Geert Uytterhoeven, Sony NSCE, Belgium * Peter De Schrijver (p2), Essensium, Belgium * Philippe De Swert, Nokia (OSSO), Finland * Klaas van Gend, MontaVista Software, The Netherlands ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
FOSDEM: Hurd Developers' Mini-Symposium Roundup
Hello, For those of you who were unable to make it to FOSDEM last week, you missed a great time. Not only did we have seven presentation about people's work pertaining to the Hurd, but the weekend was filled with rich exchange which I think has helped bring the community closer together and foster new ideas. Although it is difficult to relate the latter, you can see the slides and hear (!) most of the presentations at http://people.debian.org/~neal/FOSDEM-2005/ The presentations available are: - Supporting Larger ext2 File Systems in the Hurd Ognyan Kulev - Hurd on L4: Towards Extensibility Neal H. Walfield - Interactions in a Multiserver Operating System: The Importance of a good RPC Framework Marcus Brinkmann - L4/Hurd driver model Peter 'p2' De Schrijver - GRUB 2 Marco Gerards - Debian GNU/Hurd Michael Banck Thanks, Neal ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Call for Papers: FOSDEM 2004: 2nd EMBEDDED SYSTEMS and OPERATING SYSTEMS track
2nd EMBEDDED SYSTEMS and OPERATING SYSTEMS track at FOSDEM 2004 === 21 - 22 February 2004, Brussels Call for papers --- The 2004 edition of FOSDEM (Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting; http://www.fosdem.org) will take place in Brussels, Belgium on 21 and 22 February 2004. For the second time, a track on Embedded and Operating Systems will be organized. The first edition was quite succesful and attracted up to 100 attendants for certain topics. The program and papers of last year are available at http://www.embedded-kernel-track.org/2003/ The use of Free Software in the infrastructure of Embedded Systems is booming, e.g. by the use of Linux, uClinux, eCos, RedBoot, RTEMS and many other Free Software components. Operating System development has always been a very important topic in Free Software. As embedded and real-time systems typically have special OS requirements, we organise this Free Embedded and OS development track at FOSDEM. This track at FOSDEM provides a remarkable opportunity to present and discuss the ongoing work in these areas, and we invite developers to present their current projects. Technical topics of the conference include but are not limited to : * OS Development : kernel architecture and implementation (e.g. Linux, BSD, the Hurd, ...) * Embedded Development : tool chains and project cases (e.g. tool chain projects, packaging for cross compilation, portability, ...) * Real-time extensions, nanokernels and hardware virtualization software (e.g. RTAI, Adeos, KURT, L4, ...) * Hard real-time OS's (eCos, RTEMS, ...) * Embedded Java: open source implementations and the compatibility question (Classpath, Kaffe, Wonka, ..., Mauve, JCK, JCP, ...) * Open hardware and softcores (e.g opencores.org, OpenRISC, leonSparc, FPGA's, ...) * GUI's for embedded systems (Gtk, Qt, MicroWindows, ...) Authors are requested to submit their abstracts online to [EMAIL PROTECTED] before 18/12/2003. Notification of receipt will be sent within 48 hours. Authors wishing to submit a full paper (between 6 and 12 A4 pages), can do so in PS or PDF format. The Program Committee will evaluate the abstracts and consists of: * Herman Bruyninckx, Professor at K.U.Leuven, Belgium * Geert Uytterhoeven, Sony NSCE, Belgium * Karim Yaghmour, Opersys, Canada * Marcus Brinkman, University Bochum, Germany * Peter 'p2' De Schrijver, Mind, Belgium Peter Vandenabeele, acts as practical organiser for this track. All communication should be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Program for Embedded Kernel Development at fosdem 2003
Dear all, Fosdem 2003 will be held 8 and 9 february 2003 in Brussels. See http://www.fosdem.org for more info. The program for the Embedded Kernel Development Room at fosdem 2003 : Saturday 8/2/2003 = 14:00 - 14:45 : Keynote opencores.org : free hardware development Speaker : Richard Herveille 14:45 - 15:30 : Adapting Debian for Embedded Use Speaker : Martin Michlmayr 16:00 - 16:45 : Portable programming on complex systems Speaker : Peter De Schrijver 16:45 - 17:30 : Wonka - a JVM for embedded systems Speaker : Chris Gray Sunday 9/2/2003 === 10:00 - 11:00 : breakfast + BoF's 11:00 - 11:45 : Cross-compiling in embedded systems Speaker : Eero Tamminen 11:45 - 12:30 : eCos Speaker : Nick Garnett 14:00 - 14:45 : RTAI Speaker : Philippe Gerum 14:45 - 15:30 : GNU Bayonne and real-time issues in freely licensed telephony software Speaker : David Sugar 15:30 - 16:15 : Using C++ for real-time extensions to the Linux kernel Speaker : Peter Soetens Cheers, Peter. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd