Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

2008-09-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 08:10:35AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Am Dienstag 16 September 2008 17:07:15 schrieb Thomas Schwinge:
> > date: 2003-11-09 20:13:47 +0100;  author: tomhart;  state: Exp;  lines:
> 
> OK, then it's clear why it doesn't work :) 
> 
> 5 years is a hell of a lot of time... 
> 
> I'll see if I can get it running. 

I'm not sure why you think the GNU Hurd user guide would tell you how to
run X.org.

The (mostly) uptodate information is on the wiki.


Michael




Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

2008-09-17 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag 16 September 2008 17:07:15 schrieb Thomas Schwinge:
> date: 2003-11-09 20:13:47 +0100;  author: tomhart;  state: Exp;  lines:

OK, then it's clear why it doesn't work :) 

5 years is a hell of a lot of time... 

I'll see if I can get it running. 

Thanks! 
Arne
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Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

2008-09-16 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 02:31:24PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> How up to date is the Hurd user guide? 
> - http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/users-guide/using_gnuhurd.html

$ cvs log users-guide/using_gnuhurd.texi
[...]
total revisions: 5; selected revisions: 5
description:

revision 1.5
date: 2003-11-09 20:13:47 +0100;  author: tomhart;  state: Exp;  lines: +0 
-8;
2003-11-09  Tom Hart  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* using_gnuhurd.texi (Searching the web): Removed (duplicate) first 
two paragraphs.

revision 1.4
date: 2003-09-08 18:27:38 +0200;  author: tomhart;  state: Exp;  lines: +98 
-67;
2003-09-08  Thomas Edward Hart  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* using_gnuhurd.texi (Serial and Parallel Ports): Changed the
verbatim hack to an actual picture.
* (Internet Install): Matt wrote the section.
* (Archive Method): Matt removed the section.
* (Cross-Compiling): Matt removed the section.

[...]


> Besides: The error I get when I try to start X.org is
> "Cannot open keyboard (not a directory)"

Can't help with that one.


Regards,
 Thomas


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Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

2008-09-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag 02 September 2008 14:42:53 schrieb Michael Banck:
> All those questions are more on-topic on help-hurd, really.

Then I'll post them there. 

Sorry for asking at the wrong place, and thanks for the answer! 

Best wishes, 
Arne
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Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

2008-09-02 Thread Michael Banck
Hi,

On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 02:31:24PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Am Dienstag 02 September 2008 11:43:39 schrieb Neal H. Walfield:
> > At Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:15:41 +0200,
> > Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > > * For Desktops: Are pthreads fully implemented, now? Can I get KDE or
> > > similar running? :)
> >
> I ask, because I read on the net, that KDE and similar won't run, because 
> pthreads aren't fully implemented. That is: Weren't fully implemented in 2000 
> or so. 
> 
> And with my searches on the web I didn't find information if that had changed 
> (means: if I could run KDE now :) ). 

man cvs.

> -> I ask, because the debian guide says, it won't work, but its way to start 
> xorg doesn't work, so I'm not sure how current it is. 
> - http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
> 
> How up to date is the Hurd user guide? 
> - http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/users-guide/using_gnuhurd.html
> 
> Besides: The error I get when I try to start X.org is
> "Cannot open keyboard (not a directory)"

All those questions are more on-topic on help-hurd, really.


cheers,

Michael




Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

2008-09-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag 02 September 2008 11:43:39 schrieb Neal H. Walfield:
> At Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:15:41 +0200,
>
> Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > * For Desktops: Are pthreads fully implemented, now? Can I get KDE or
> > similar running? :)
>
> What do you mean?  With the exception of the real-time extensions and
> a few bits that are hard to implement without tight integration with
> libc (namely, at fork handlers), the pthread library has been feature
> complete since 2002.

I ask, because I read on the net, that KDE and similar won't run, because 
pthreads aren't fully implemented. That is: Weren't fully implemented in 2000 
or so. 

And with my searches on the web I didn't find information if that had changed 
(means: if I could run KDE now :) ). 

-> I ask, because the debian guide says, it won't work, but its way to start 
xorg doesn't work, so I'm not sure how current it is. 
- http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install

How up to date is the Hurd user guide? 
- http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/users-guide/using_gnuhurd.html

Besides: The error I get when I try to start X.org is
"Cannot open keyboard (not a directory)"

Best wishes, 
Arne
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Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

2008-09-02 Thread Neal H. Walfield
At Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:15:41 +0200,
Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> * For Desktops: Are pthreads fully implemented, now? Can I get KDE or similar 
> running? :)

What do you mean?  With the exception of the real-time extensions and
a few bits that are hard to implement without tight integration with
libc (namely, at fork handlers), the pthread library has been feature
complete since 2002.

Neal