Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
2009/5/11 pg pged...@zetnet.co.uk: Hi I recently installed ubuntu 9.04 which uses lilypond version 2.12.1-0. I used SeparationItem #'padding# on most of my printing as an include file attached to the file exported from tuxguitar. But try as I might I cannot get either NoteMusicalPaperColumn or PaperColumn to work. Can any give me an example of some working code, please, or maybe point me to some documentation. I just need to get my note spacing back. You'll have to install version 2.13.0 for it to work, since the bugfix was applied after the release of 2.12.2. Regards, Neil ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Hi I recently installed ubuntu 9.04 which uses lilypond version 2.12.1-0. I used SeparationItem #'padding# on most of my printing as an include file attached to the file exported from tuxguitar. But try as I might I cannot get either NoteMusicalPaperColumn or PaperColumn to work. Can any give me an example of some working code, please, or maybe point me to some documentation. I just need to get my note spacing back. Thank you peter ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/2 Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:21 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet that shows how to use this? This is very embarrassing, I'm just testing the fix: spacing-spanner.cc:306: set_column_rods (cols, 0.1); // FIXME: padding Greetings Joe, where are we now? Does this SeparationItem thingy deserve an issue in the tracker? I don't think it deserves an issue. We have two options: 1) Remove SeparationItem from LilyPond's source (scm/define-grobs.scm). Then we would need a convert-ly rule. 2) Keep SeparationItem, even though it is never used. I guess it all depends on whether SeparationItem will ever be used again in the future. -Patrick ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Quoting Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/2 Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:21 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet that shows how to use this? This is very embarrassing, I'm just testing the fix: spacing-spanner.cc:306: set_column_rods (cols, 0.1); // FIXME: padding Greetings Joe, where are we now? Does this SeparationItem thingy deserve an issue in the tracker? I don't think it deserves an issue. We have two options: 1) Remove SeparationItem from LilyPond's source (scm/define-grobs.scm). Then we would need a convert-ly rule. 2) Keep SeparationItem, even though it is never used. I guess it all depends on whether SeparationItem will ever be used again in the future. The main thing is that the documentation is modified to show a solution that works, i.e. that gives the same result as you previously could obtain setting SeparationItem #'padding = ... You raise a completely different question, namely what the general strategy is for phasing out obsolete properties/engravers/grobs. This is far from the first time, such things happen, and previously it has often taken quite some time before somebody really has taken the effort to clean it up properly (removing the corresponding source code and documentation and adding a convert-ly rule). /Mats ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote: Quoting Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Joe, where are we now? Does this SeparationItem thingy deserve an issue in the tracker? I don't think it deserves an issue. We have two options: 1) Remove SeparationItem from LilyPond's source (scm/define-grobs.scm). Then we would need a convert-ly rule. 2) Keep SeparationItem, even though it is never used. I guess it all depends on whether SeparationItem will ever be used again in the future. The main thing is that the documentation is modified to show a solution that works, i.e. that gives the same result as you previously could obtain setting SeparationItem #'padding = ... Ah, yes. I forgot that the documentation was not updated to reflect the change. Joe added a regtest called spacing-paper-column-padding.ly that demonstrates the new behavior. -Patrick ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Patrick McCarty wrote:
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Mats Bengtsson
mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote:
Quoting Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com:
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Valentin Villenave
v.villen...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings Joe,
where are we now? Does this SeparationItem thingy deserve an issue in
the tracker?
I don't think it deserves an issue.
We have two options:
1) Remove SeparationItem from LilyPond's source
(scm/define-grobs.scm). Then we would need a convert-ly rule.
2) Keep SeparationItem, even though it is never used.
I guess it all depends on whether SeparationItem will ever be used
again in the future.
The main thing is that the documentation is modified to show a solution that
works, i.e. that gives the same result as you previously could obtain
setting SeparationItem #'padding = ...
Ah, yes. I forgot that the documentation was not updated to reflect the change.
Joe added a regtest called spacing-paper-column-padding.ly that
demonstrates the new behavior.
-Patrick
I'll update the docs to reflect the change. Couple of questions first,
though.
1. The regtest mentioned above has two overrides, but as far as I can
tell only one of them has any effect. Unless I'm missing something,
only the NonMusicalPaperColumn affects the spacing. If it's commented
out, the spacing goes back to normal, but if the PaperColumn padding
override is commented out and the NonMusicalPaperColumn override is
kept, the spacing changes. Here's my minimal example made from it:
\relative c' {
% \override Score.PaperColumn #'padding = #10
\override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'padding = #10
c d
}
There might be a good reason to include the first override, a reason not
evident in such a tiny example, so maybe someone with more knowledge can
tell me whether to keep it in there.
2. Doc policy discourages (forbids?) the use of @example, which is
currently how this issue is addressed in NR 4.5.1 known issues and
warnings. It would be easy enough to change the @example currently
there to show the NonMusicalPaperColumn override, but this would
perpetuate a breach of doc policy. On the other hand, lilypond examples
with overrides are also forbidden in the main text, so this would have
to go into a snippet. Should I go ahead and quick-fix the @example
until a snippet can be added to the snippet list and then later make a
link to the snippet?
Thanks,
Jon
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Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:24:53AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: 2. Doc policy discourages (forbids?) the use of @example, which is currently how this issue is addressed in NR 4.5.1 known issues and warnings. It would be easy enough to change the @example currently there to show the NonMusicalPaperColumn override, but this would perpetuate a breach of doc policy. Go ahead and keep the @example; NR 4 still needs to start its rewrite. This goes for anything else you see in NR 3 and upwards... I don't see this situation changing until the summer. Cheers, - Graham ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Patch attached.
Jon
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote:
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:24:53AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
2. Doc policy discourages (forbids?) the use of @example, which is
currently how this issue is addressed in NR 4.5.1 known issues and
warnings. It would be easy enough to change the @example currently
there to show the NonMusicalPaperColumn override, but this would
perpetuate a breach of doc policy.
Go ahead and keep the @example; NR 4 still needs to start its
rewrite. This goes for anything else you see in NR 3 and
upwards... I don't see this situation changing until the summer.
Cheers,
- Graham
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From 29ad4b14a13313d37f68131ddc70f26af94bbba7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:47:38 -0600
Subject: [PATCH] change SeparationItem @example to NonMusicalPaperColumn
---
Documentation/user/spacing.itely |7 ---
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/user/spacing.itely b/Documentation/user/spacing.itely
index bacbc94..9f5be80 100644
--- a/Documentation/user/spacing.itely
+++ b/Documentation/user/spacing.itely
@@ -1915,15 +1915,16 @@ Internals Reference:
@rinternals{SpacingSpanner},
@rinternals{NoteSpacing},
@rinternals{StaffSpacing},
-...@rinternals{separationitem}.
+...@rinternals{nonmusicalpapercolumn}.
@knownissues
There is no convenient mechanism to manually override spacing. The
-following work-around may be used to insert extra space into a score.
+following work-around may be used to insert extra space into a score,
+adjusting the padding value as necessary.
@example
- \once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #1
+ \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'padding = #10
@end example
No work-around exists for decreasing the amount of space.
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Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Mats Bengtsson wrote Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:17 AM Quoting Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/2 Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:21 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet that shows how to use this? This is very embarrassing, I'm just testing the fix: spacing-spanner.cc:306: set_column_rods (cols, 0.1); // FIXME: padding Greetings Joe, where are we now? Does this SeparationItem thingy deserve an issue in the tracker? I don't think it deserves an issue. We have two options: 1) Remove SeparationItem from LilyPond's source (scm/define-grobs.scm). Then we would need a convert-ly rule. 2) Keep SeparationItem, even though it is never used. I guess it all depends on whether SeparationItem will ever be used again in the future. The main thing is that the documentation is modified to show a solution that works, i.e. that gives the same result as you previously could obtain setting SeparationItem #'padding = ... Yes, we're waiting for Joe to complete his fix so we can use 'spacing-spanner in the docs. At present no one has found a way to make it work. Or has this been fixed silently? Trevor ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Thanks Jon. Pushed to git. Trevor - Original Message - From: Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com; Lilypond bug bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore? Patch attached. Jon On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:24:53AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: 2. Doc policy discourages (forbids?) the use of @example, which is currently how this issue is addressed in NR 4.5.1 known issues and warnings. It would be easy enough to change the @example currently there to show the NonMusicalPaperColumn override, but this would perpetuate a breach of doc policy. Go ahead and keep the @example; NR 4 still needs to start its rewrite. This goes for anything else you see in NR 3 and upwards... I don't see this situation changing until the summer. Cheers, - Graham -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 15:38 +, Trevor Daniels wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:17 AM Quoting Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/2 Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:21 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet that shows how to use this? This is very embarrassing, I'm just testing the fix: spacing-spanner.cc:306: set_column_rods (cols, 0.1); // FIXME: padding Greetings Joe, where are we now? Does this SeparationItem thingy deserve an issue in the tracker? I don't think it deserves an issue. We have two options: 1) Remove SeparationItem from LilyPond's source (scm/define-grobs.scm). Then we would need a convert-ly rule. 2) Keep SeparationItem, even though it is never used. I guess it all depends on whether SeparationItem will ever be used again in the future. The main thing is that the documentation is modified to show a solution that works, i.e. that gives the same result as you previously could obtain setting SeparationItem #'padding = ... Yes, we're waiting for Joe to complete his fix so we can use 'spacing-spanner in the docs. At present no one has found a way to make it work. Or has this been fixed silently? I believe it was fixed in 35db77b06dc96ec680668dfb70b17cdc56c5f24f. Does it still fail? Joe ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Joe Neeman wrote Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:27 PM On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 15:38 +, Trevor Daniels wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:17 AM Quoting Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/2 Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:21 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet that shows how to use this? This is very embarrassing, I'm just testing the fix: spacing-spanner.cc:306: set_column_rods (cols, 0.1); // FIXME: padding Greetings Joe, where are we now? Does this SeparationItem thingy deserve an issue in the tracker? I don't think it deserves an issue. We have two options: 1) Remove SeparationItem from LilyPond's source (scm/define-grobs.scm). Then we would need a convert-ly rule. 2) Keep SeparationItem, even though it is never used. I guess it all depends on whether SeparationItem will ever be used again in the future. The main thing is that the documentation is modified to show a solution that works, i.e. that gives the same result as you previously could obtain setting SeparationItem #'padding = ... Yes, we're waiting for Joe to complete his fix so we can use 'spacing-spanner in the docs. At present no one has found a way to make it work. Or has this been fixed silently? I believe it was fixed in 35db77b06dc96ec680668dfb70b17cdc56c5f24f. Does it still fail? No, you're quite right. It works. I must have missed the commit. Jon's already fixed the docs. Trevor ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
2009/2/2 Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:21 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet that shows how to use this? This is very embarrassing, I'm just testing the fix: spacing-spanner.cc:306: set_column_rods (cols, 0.1); // FIXME: padding Greetings Joe, where are we now? Does this SeparationItem thingy deserve an issue in the tracker? Regards, Valentin ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Jonathan Kulp wrote Friday, January 30, 2009 6:21 PM
Graham Percival wrote:
Jonathan, this is your job now. Please either update the docs, or
bug the relevant people for more info so that you can update the
docs.
Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use
PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet
that shows how to use this?
Me neither. The only thing that seems to affect
note spacing is to override the X-extent of the Stem,
as suggested by Kieren. (Other than messy tricks like
hidden text, slurs, etc. with modified lengths.)
I did find what appears to be a typo at the end of NR 6.8 Difficult
Tweaks:
Note, however, that \override, applied to NoteMusicalPaperColumn and
PaperColumn, still works as expected within \context blocks.
Should this read NonMusicalPaperColumn instead of
NoteMusicalPaperColumn? I don't see the latter in the list of all
graphical objects. If this is the case then I'll make a patch to fix the
typo and send it to Carl.
I'm sure you're right. Please fix this now, although much
of NR 6 is yet to be rewritten.
Trevor
Jon
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 05:28:04PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Mats
This was changed by committish
3d90d1d4096a6fae5826445cd66e95d25de2110a by
Joe Neeman on 29 Jun 2007. The commit message
says:
use PaperColumns instead of SeparationItems.
It was part of a massive set of changes to the
spacing engine by Joe.
As you say, it looks like a doc change is needed.
Trevor
- Original Message - From: Mats Bengtsson
mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se
To: Lilypond bug bug-lilypond@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
What happened to the SeparationItem #'padding property? The following
setting
used to give a large gap in version 2.10, but has no impact at all in
2.12.
Regression!?
\relative c'{c d e \once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #30
f }
If there's a good reason that it doesn't work anymore, the
corresponding
description in Known issues and warnings of
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing-overview#Horizontal-spacing-overview
should be corrected.
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Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:21 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Jonathan, this is your job now. Please either update the docs, or bug the relevant people for more info so that you can update the docs. Cheers, - Graham Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet that shows how to use this? This is very embarrassing, I'm just testing the fix: spacing-spanner.cc:306: set_column_rods (cols, 0.1); // FIXME: padding Joe ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On 1/29/09 1:58 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Mats This was changed by committish 3d90d1d4096a6fae5826445cd66e95d25de2110a by Joe Neeman on 29 Jun 2007. The commit message says: use PaperColumns instead of SeparationItems. Furthermore, the SeparationItem grob is never even created anymore in 2.12, so maybe its definition should be removed too? On second thought, that might not be a good idea. It would probably be best to leave the grob definition in scm/define-grobs.scm and just revise the documentation. This would leave SeparationItem overrides in their current state: silently ignored. Seems to me like we should remove the SeparationItem grob if there's no way to create one. And we need a convert-ly rule to eliminate any SeparationItem overrides. Let's clean it up properly, instead of leaving detritus around. (There, now I've used my big word for the day -- detritus. Perhaps I should have said cruft instead of detritus.) Carl ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Jonathan, this is your job now. Please either update the docs, or
bug the relevant people for more info so that you can update the
docs.
Cheers,
- Graham
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 05:28:04PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Mats
This was changed by committish
3d90d1d4096a6fae5826445cd66e95d25de2110a by
Joe Neeman on 29 Jun 2007. The commit message
says:
use PaperColumns instead of SeparationItems.
It was part of a massive set of changes to the
spacing engine by Joe.
As you say, it looks like a doc change is needed.
Trevor
- Original Message - From: Mats Bengtsson
mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se
To: Lilypond bug bug-lilypond@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
What happened to the SeparationItem #'padding property? The following
setting
used to give a large gap in version 2.10, but has no impact at all in
2.12.
Regression!?
\relative c'{c d e \once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #30
f }
If there's a good reason that it doesn't work anymore, the corresponding
description in Known issues and warnings of
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing-overview#Horizontal-spacing-overview
should be corrected.
/Mats
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Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:28:04AM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 1/29/09 1:58 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On second thought, that might not be a good idea. It would probably be best to leave the grob definition in scm/define-grobs.scm and just revise the documentation. This would leave SeparationItem overrides in their current state: silently ignored. Seems to me like we should remove the SeparationItem grob if there's no way to create one. And we need a convert-ly rule to eliminate any SeparationItem overrides. Let's clean it up properly, instead of leaving detritus around. Agreed, and 2.13 will start in a matter of days. Cheers, - Graham ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Graham Percival wrote:
Jonathan, this is your job now. Please either update the docs, or
bug the relevant people for more info so that you can update the
docs.
Cheers,
- Graham
Ok Graham. I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use
PaperColumn to change spacing, though. Joe, could you send me a snippet
that shows how to use this?
I did find what appears to be a typo at the end of NR 6.8 Difficult
Tweaks:
Note, however, that \override, applied to NoteMusicalPaperColumn and
PaperColumn, still works as expected within \context blocks.
Should this read NonMusicalPaperColumn instead of
NoteMusicalPaperColumn? I don't see the latter in the list of all
graphical objects. If this is the case then I'll make a patch to fix
the typo and send it to Carl.
Jon
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 05:28:04PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Mats
This was changed by committish
3d90d1d4096a6fae5826445cd66e95d25de2110a by
Joe Neeman on 29 Jun 2007. The commit message
says:
use PaperColumns instead of SeparationItems.
It was part of a massive set of changes to the
spacing engine by Joe.
As you say, it looks like a doc change is needed.
Trevor
- Original Message - From: Mats Bengtsson
mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se
To: Lilypond bug bug-lilypond@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
What happened to the SeparationItem #'padding property? The following
setting
used to give a large gap in version 2.10, but has no impact at all in
2.12.
Regression!?
\relative c'{c d e \once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #30
f }
If there's a good reason that it doesn't work anymore, the corresponding
description in Known issues and warnings of
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing-overview#Horizontal-spacing-overview
should be corrected.
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What happened to the SeparationItem #'padding property? The following
setting
used to give a large gap in version 2.10, but has no impact at all in 2.12.
Regression!?
\relative c'{c d e \once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #30 f }
If there's a good reason that it doesn't work anymore, the corresponding
description in Known issues and warnings of
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing-overview#Horizontal-spacing-overview
should be corrected.
/Mats
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Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
Mats
This was changed by committish
3d90d1d4096a6fae5826445cd66e95d25de2110a by
Joe Neeman on 29 Jun 2007. The commit message
says:
use PaperColumns instead of SeparationItems.
It was part of a massive set of changes to the
spacing engine by Joe.
As you say, it looks like a doc change is needed.
Trevor
- Original Message -
From: Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se
To: Lilypond bug bug-lilypond@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
What happened to the SeparationItem #'padding property? The following
setting
used to give a large gap in version 2.10, but has no impact at all in
2.12.
Regression!?
\relative c'{c d e \once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #30
f }
If there's a good reason that it doesn't work anymore, the corresponding
description in Known issues and warnings of
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing-overview#Horizontal-spacing-overview
should be corrected.
/Mats
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Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Mats This was changed by committish 3d90d1d4096a6fae5826445cd66e95d25de2110a by Joe Neeman on 29 Jun 2007. The commit message says: use PaperColumns instead of SeparationItems. Furthermore, the SeparationItem grob is never even created anymore in 2.12, so maybe its definition should be removed too? -Patrick ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Mats This was changed by committish 3d90d1d4096a6fae5826445cd66e95d25de2110a by Joe Neeman on 29 Jun 2007. The commit message says: use PaperColumns instead of SeparationItems. Furthermore, the SeparationItem grob is never even created anymore in 2.12, so maybe its definition should be removed too? On second thought, that might not be a good idea. It would probably be best to leave the grob definition in scm/define-grobs.scm and just revise the documentation. This would leave SeparationItem overrides in their current state: silently ignored. -Patrick ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
