Re: CakePHP Newbie Questions

2013-12-20 Thread Silver Troy
Hey Nick,
 I know your pain .. I suggest watching these videos  
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL20D663BEC6319E36
they will really help explain and walk you through setting up a login / 
logout 

Hopefully that helps you and get you moving on your application.

Cheers




On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:21:50 PM UTC-5, Nick Harper wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have recently started to learn CakePHP after just being used to coding 
> from scratch.
>
> I have installed a couple of plugins but the issue I have is linking them 
> together, for example if I have a login script then how on earth do I just 
> show the login page for example?
>
> Does every Controller need to have a mysql assigned to it?
>
> I have been through the blog tutorial but so far it just feels really 
> restrictive compared to just coding from scratch but what really appeals is 
> the plugins / helpers but I am just struggling with basic things like 
> echoing the username they are logged in with when logged in etc.
>
>
>

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Re: Looking for Help with Cakephp basics .. aka looking for a mentor

2013-12-20 Thread Silver Troy
Hello Reuben,
  I want to thank you for that well thought reply, the answers and pointers 
you have given me.  I really do try and find the answers through google, 
the cook book, youtube and irc.  I just know that sometimes people can 
answer your question in a couple minutes that will save you hours of 
wasting your time.
I have read through the cook book a few times already and though it does 
give some basic examples it lacks answering common problems.

I have done the blog tutorial, expanded it with Andrew Perkins youtube 
tutorials to add in authorization.  I have built a basic administration 
section and a user account section with routing (that took way too much 
time messing around).  I have been able to create form dropdowns that get 
populated from other models, and I recognize the 
data['User']['purchased']['year']  from the examples.  I have built a 
number of different sections like products, manufacturers, dealers, deals, 
users using the basic scaffolding.  

I do need to get into the Category Tree Structure, which I have looked into 
a number of examples, going to need to implement Pagination, Breadcrumbs 
and a proper Search tool (that works with multi-word searches).  Not to 
mention uploading multiple images for a product with a main (or default) 
image set.  I have been looking into using a plugin to do the image upload 
but that has been challenging to get one installed and working properly.

The next time I post .. I will keep it to one problem and try and layout 
what I have done.

Have a good Christmas.


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Looking for Help with Cakephp basics .. aka looking for a mentor

2013-12-17 Thread Silver Troy
Hello Cakephp users,
I am just looking for someone that is familiar with Cakephp and can 
help me figure out simple processes in CakePhp.

I am looking for help with things like:

~ uploading a image 
~ saving a form to say products table, but saving images uploaded to a 
product_images table.
~ how to save $this->Form->year()  .. breaks my code says its an Array.
~ implementing plugins, helpers, components, etc
~ building a category tree with products showing in each level of the 
category tree.

I probably have a number of other questions as well.   I have hunted google 
for tutorials, video tutorials, i have read 
the cookbook and tried the cake irc channel (with some success). 

I just realize that I am wasting hours of my time looking for solutions 
that could be answered in a simple
email or chat.  

I find that there is very little out there for Cakephp 2.0 tutorials and 
they are looking to bring out cakephp 3.

Even the Cakephp Youtube channel doesn't have simple tutorials on say 
creating a form and dealing with filling dropdown lists.
They go into advance topics, where most new cakephp users just want to get 
past the basic functionality learning curve.

Yes I have done the blogging tutorial and found Andrew Perkins tutorials on 
youtube to be excellent.  I actually wish he had more.

So if you or someone you know can help me, that would be greatly 
appreciated.

I am actually getting to the point of looking at Zend Framework .. because 
I really don't see a vibrant CakePHP community.



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Re: Cake 2: Very confusing docs/tutorials... Is there another foolproof source?

2013-10-30 Thread Silver Troy
I have been reading the cakephp book, looking on youtube, googling any 
examples I can for the past 3 weeks.  
Feel like I am banging my head against the wall and could easily do this 
stuff outside the framework.

The documentation is lacking real examples that beginners could actually 
build on.

I have hacked together a front end to my test website, a front end user 
section and an admin section (still can't route  to
it properly).  

Should I have a separate login code for my administration section ? 

Should I be creating an AdminController or do I still admin functions in 
all my controllers  (aka admin_index,admin_edit,admin_delete).

How to build a category manager in the administration section ?   Should I 
be using someone's plugin/helper from github ?  

They should really attempt to put together a tutorial site that shows more 
than the blog example.  
A website that has a user registration, login, profile section.  Listing of 
products or articles and an administration
section would be something very valuable to all beginners.

 I do see the potential benefits of cakephp but finding decent best 
practices (examples)  on the internet is pretty bad.  Considering
cakephp 2.x was released 2 years ago or so?  

Not to mention I am already reading about cakephp 3.0   .   Maybe a 
concentrated effort to develop 20,50, 100 best practice examples for 
cakephp 3.0  would be very beneficial.



On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:45:02 AM UTC-4, euromark wrote:
>
> Silver Troy: Mark Story != dereuromark ;)
>
> Most beginners find the book sufficient - and properly explaining the 
> basics.
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 05:30:20 UTC+1 schrieb Silver Troy:
>>
>> I have to agree with the above comments about trying to find real 
>> examples with cakephp 2.x.
>>
>> The cakephp youtube channel doesn't give you any video examples on simple 
>> concepts.
>>
>> The documentation has a lot of useful information, but little examples to 
>> put them into action.
>>
>> Doing the blog tutorial example was pretty quick and easy.  Adding 
>> authentication the Andrew perkins
>> youtube videos were good.  
>>
>> But seriously Cakephp you need to develop some real world simple 
>> examples.  Cause its frustrating
>> as a php developer to be attempting to figure out how to properly code 
>> inside of cakephp's framework.
>>
>> I read the documentation, the bakery, youtube videos, google for 
>> tutorials.  
>>
>> But can I find a simple menu building example ? 
>> How to build an admin section with proper routing ? 
>> How to connection with hasOne, hasMany ? 
>> Building a category tree that lists products in each level with paging ? 
>>
>> Oh I have read over Mark Story's Tree Behavior article and attempted to 
>> install his "Tools" plugin .. 
>> but trying to get a working example  sigh.   Should I really have to 
>> install someone else's plugin
>> to build a category system in a website ?
>>
>> Quite the frustration is trying to learn this framework ... spinning my 
>> wheels.
>>
>> Yes I tried the irc channel and basically the first person to respond 
>> made me feel like an idiot ... not impressed 
>> and then basically linked a bunch of the book.cakephp.org sections .. 
>> which I have already read that don't give a proper working example or stop 
>> just short of the basic functionality.
>>
>>  
>>
>>

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Re: Cake 2: Very confusing docs/tutorials... Is there another foolproof source?

2013-10-30 Thread Silver Troy
I have to agree with the above comments about trying to find real examples 
with cakephp 2.x.

The cakephp youtube channel doesn't give you any video examples on simple 
concepts.

The documentation has a lot of useful information, but little examples to 
put them into action.

Doing the blog tutorial example was pretty quick and easy.  Adding 
authentication the Andrew perkins
youtube videos were good.  

But seriously Cakephp you need to develop some real world simple examples.  
Cause its frustrating
as a php developer to be attempting to figure out how to properly code 
inside of cakephp's framework.

I read the documentation, the bakery, youtube videos, google for 
tutorials.  

But can I find a simple menu building example ? 
How to build an admin section with proper routing ? 
How to connection with hasOne, hasMany ? 
Building a category tree that lists products in each level with paging ? 

Oh I have read over Mark Story's Tree Behavior article and attempted to 
install his "Tools" plugin .. 
but trying to get a working example  sigh.   Should I really have to 
install someone else's plugin
to build a category system in a website ?

Quite the frustration is trying to learn this framework ... spinning my 
wheels.

Yes I tried the irc channel and basically the first person to respond made 
me feel like an idiot ... not impressed 
and then basically linked a bunch of the book.cakephp.org sections .. which 
I have already read that don't give a proper working example or stop just 
short of the basic functionality.

 

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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?

2013-10-21 Thread Silver Troy
What I hate about cakephp is the lack of basic examples in the 
documentation.  Not even having a proper menu example, pagination example,
category example, admin cms section and so on .. is very frustrating for 
someone new to cakephp.  Building the blog tutorial is a start, you need to 
take it much further.


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