Re: Elgg v CakePhp
Hi flosky Thanks dor the advice, I'm going to look into cakePHP more and see how customisable it is, and if its easier to understand than Elgg Mark On Sep 22, 1:14 pm, "flo.kl...@googlemail.com" wrote: > Hey Mark, > > I can't answer all your questions, but the following: > Does cake have a steep learning curve? No, you can get a simple site going in > minutes and just take it from there. > Can u make custom queries in cake? Yes, in any cake Model Class u can do the > following: $this->query($myQuery); > > Hope that helps a little bit. > -flosky > > mark kelly schrieb: > > Elgg and cakePhp are similar in my opinion. They are both MVC > frameworks. Elgg, out of the box, is a social network engine. But it > can be customised to do anything. We're customising our site with Elgg > to work as a standard ecommerce site. > > The reason why I ask is that Elgg is not easy to get used to. There is > a very very steep learning curb. Plus, the database uses an EAV model > rather than a relational database model, making it slower and more > confusing in my opinion. > > I was wondering would we be better off changing to cakePhp, or even > building our own framework? Is there a very steep learning curve with > cake? Are there performance issues, as there are with Elgg? Can you > design your own database tables and write custom sql with Cake? With > Elgg, its very highly recommended that the database not be touched or > custom sql written.. > > On Sep 22, 4:39 am, "Yves S. Garret" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That's not a very good comparison. This is what Elgg is: > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgg_(software) > > > It's a social networking engine, but CakePHP is not. Could you narrow down > > your comparison? > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM, mark kelly wrote: > > > Hi > > > My team have been using Elgg to build a social commerce site. We have > > > all found it confusing and slow. Additionally, the database uses an > > > EAV model, totally different to what we've all been used to. > > > > How does cakePhp compare to Elgg? Is it fast? Easy to use? > > > > Thanks > > > Mark > > > > -- > > > Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials > > >http://tv.cakephp.org > > > Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organdhelp > > > others with their CakePHP related questions. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php > > -- > Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video > Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org > Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organd help others > with their CakePHP related questions. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: Elgg v CakePhp
Elgg and cakePhp are similar in my opinion. They are both MVC frameworks. Elgg, out of the box, is a social network engine. But it can be customised to do anything. We're customising our site with Elgg to work as a standard ecommerce site. The reason why I ask is that Elgg is not easy to get used to. There is a very very steep learning curb. Plus, the database uses an EAV model rather than a relational database model, making it slower and more confusing in my opinion. I was wondering would we be better off changing to cakePhp, or even building our own framework? Is there a very steep learning curve with cake? Are there performance issues, as there are with Elgg? Can you design your own database tables and write custom sql with Cake? With Elgg, its very highly recommended that the database not be touched or custom sql written.. On Sep 22, 4:39 am, "Yves S. Garret" wrote: > That's not a very good comparison. This is what Elgg is: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgg_(software) > > It's a social networking engine, but CakePHP is not. Could you narrow down > your comparison? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM, mark kelly wrote: > > Hi > > My team have been using Elgg to build a social commerce site. We have > > all found it confusing and slow. Additionally, the database uses an > > EAV model, totally different to what we've all been used to. > > > How does cakePhp compare to Elgg? Is it fast? Easy to use? > > > Thanks > > Mark > > > -- > > Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials > >http://tv.cakephp.org > > Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organd help > > others with their CakePHP related questions. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Elgg v CakePhp
Hi My team have been using Elgg to build a social commerce site. We have all found it confusing and slow. Additionally, the database uses an EAV model, totally different to what we've all been used to. How does cakePhp compare to Elgg? Is it fast? Easy to use? Thanks Mark -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
existing code base - worth importing to cakePHP in order to apply best practices?
Hi I developed a site last year in php and mysql in a procedural manner (I did not use MVC model or object oriented programming). The project is being developed further along with 2 new programmers. As we have got some investment and it looks like this application (market place style website) will be going for a few years, I would like to apply Best Practices to the existing code. This means using the MVC model and OOP. I feel its best to do this now where the website is at a manageable(ish) 300 files rather than a year down the line when its a mess.. Do ye think its a good idea to use the cakePHP framework to force a sort of structure on the code? So we would not be doing a lot of new coding, instead we'd be using the framework to enforce good practices of OOP and MVC. Also, any estimates on if this would take long (300 files) and whether cakePHP is right for this? Or if it's worth doing at all? Thanks Mark -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
