{Seeking} Overview for Dummies
Hi All, I'm looking for a graphical representation of how cake handles a request. I came across http://jmp.xybyx.com/img/overview2.png and http://grahambird.co.uk/cake/tutorials/howitworks.php both of which are very useful for understanding the basics, but miss some objects. Has anyone already created, or is there a page existing somewhere in the manual that I've yet to find, an image that describes graphically all of the various objects used by Cake (or any MVC for that matter) such that none-developers can see how things fit together, in particular everything to do with presentation? As you might guess I'm trying to explain to someone (none-technical) I'm working with generally how things work and which files to edit, but after repeating myself 2 or 3 times I think it's time for a picture. The difficulty seems to stem from the concept of a dispacher; the 'black magic' of mod_rewrite/cake pretty urls and the URL requested may not directly relate to what is expected (routes; using one edit.thtml for add edit methods etc.). Any help or comments most welcome, Cheers, AD7six --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: {Seeking} Overview for Dummies
I think it would be good to have such representation. It took me a long time to see the big picture of how cake is functioning, and there is still a lot of unclear thing. The link of Nate is cool but I'm not sure how it help newbies: Look at the step 3 where the controller is. honestly you've to know cake to understand that part, to know what a model is, what a requestaction is, ... It seems to be a good start, but to me, A good graphic representation would need a bit more details, and should outline the MVC structure. It should tell what the dispatcher does with the params, that the model are defined in a similar manner to how we build a db scheme (LDM). Do you know a online paperboard website ? So we could tell collectively and graphically how it should look like. Olivvv AD7six wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for a graphical representation of how cake handles a request. I came across http://jmp.xybyx.com/img/overview2.png and http://grahambird.co.uk/cake/tutorials/howitworks.php both of which are very useful for understanding the basics, but miss some objects. Has anyone already created, or is there a page existing somewhere in the manual that I've yet to find, an image that describes graphically all of the various objects used by Cake (or any MVC for that matter) such that none-developers can see how things fit together, in particular everything to do with presentation? As you might guess I'm trying to explain to someone (none-technical) I'm working with generally how things work and which files to edit, but after repeating myself 2 or 3 times I think it's time for a picture. The difficulty seems to stem from the concept of a dispacher; the 'black magic' of mod_rewrite/cake pretty urls and the URL requested may not directly relate to what is expected (routes; using one edit.thtml for add edit methods etc.). Any help or comments most welcome, Cheers, AD7six --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: {Seeking} Overview for Dummies
Olivier, We could use http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/ Coccinella to do this. I would be happy to host the file for a while and then as we come to consensus, I'll clean it up and make a pdf/page out of it. Sam DI'll post information on the file when I get it up and runningOn 6/17/06, Olivier Percebois-Garve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I think it would be good to have such representation. It took me a long time to see the big pictureof how cake is functioning, and there is still a lot of unclear thing.The link of Nate is cool but I'm not sure how it help newbies: Look atthe step 3 where the controller is. honestly you've to know cake to understand that part, to know what amodel is, what a requestaction is, ...It seems to be a good start, but to me, A good graphic representationwould need a bit more details, and should outline the MVC structure. It should tell what the dispatcher does withthe params,that the model are defined in a similar manner to how we build a dbscheme (LDM).Do you know a online paperboard website ? So we could tell collectively and graphically how it should look like.OlivvvAD7six wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for a graphical representation of how cake handles a request. I came across http://jmp.xybyx.com/img/overview2.png and http://grahambird.co.uk/cake/tutorials/howitworks.php both of which are very useful for understanding the basics, but miss some objects. Has anyone already created, or is there a page existing somewhere in the manual that I've yet to find, an image that describes graphically all of the various objects used by Cake (or any MVC for that matter) such that none-developers can see how things fit together, in particular everything to do with presentation? As you might guess I'm trying to explain to someone (none-technical) I'm working with generally how things work and which files to edit, but after repeating myself 2 or 3 times I think it's time for a picture. The difficulty seems to stem from the concept of a dispacher; the 'black magic' of mod_rewrite/cake pretty urls and the URL requested may not directly relate to what is expected (routes; using one edit.thtml for add edit methods etc.). Any help or comments most welcome, Cheers, AD7six --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: {Seeking} Overview for Dummies
Are you on irc ? I have troubles to set up the p2p mode in coccinnella. Samuel DeVore wrote: ok if you connect to scid.is-a-geek as a peer to peer server method you should have a document to play with Sam D On 6/17/06, Samuel DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olivier, We could use http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/ Coccinella to do this. I would be happy to host the file for a while and then as we come to consensus, I'll clean it up and make a pdf/page out of it. Sam D I'll post information on the file when I get it up and running On 6/17/06, Olivier Percebois-Garve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be good to have such representation. It took me a long time to see the big picture of how cake is functioning, and there is still a lot of unclear thing. The link of Nate is cool but I'm not sure how it help newbies: Look at the step 3 where the controller is. honestly you've to know cake to understand that part, to know what a model is, what a requestaction is, ... It seems to be a good start, but to me, A good graphic representation would need a bit more details, and should outline the MVC structure. It should tell what the dispatcher does with the params, that the model are defined in a similar manner to how we build a db scheme (LDM). Do you know a "online paperboard" website ? So we could tell collectively and graphically how it should look like. Olivvv AD7six wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for a graphical representation of how cake handles a request. I came across http://jmp.xybyx.com/img/overview2.png and http://grahambird.co.uk/cake/tutorials/howitworks.php both of which are very useful for understanding the basics, but miss some objects. Has anyone already created, or is there a page existing somewhere in the manual that I've yet to find, an image that describes graphically all of the various objects used by Cake (or any MVC for that matter) such that none-developers can see how things fit together, in particular everything to do with presentation? As you might guess I'm trying to explain to someone (none-technical) I'm working with generally how things work and which files to edit, but after repeating myself 2 or 3 times I think it's time for a picture. The difficulty seems to stem from the concept of a dispacher; the 'black magic' of mod_rewrite/cake pretty urls and the URL requested may not directly relate to what is expected (routes; using one edit.thtml for add edit methods etc.). Any help or comments most welcome, Cheers, AD7six --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
