Re: After the Cake is baked...
Brilliant, this is almost exactly what I was looking for. On Feb 24, 8:28 am, Christian Leskowsky christian.leskow...@gmail.com wrote: Here's something I haven't read yet but was written by a guy who knows his stuff... http://boagworld.com/websiteownersmanual/ http://boagworld.com/websiteownersmanual/ Some good material in there for ya. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Christian Leskowsky christian.leskow...@gmail.com wrote: For backups you should be taking full mysql backups of your database nightly - at least while that's feasible - and storing them offsite. (S3 is what I personally use.) Keep at least a week's worth of backups in case you accidentally drop table or something equally terrible happens. Make sure you test restoring from your backup too... regularly. What often happens is you may very well have an ironclad backup strategy but when it comes time to actually restore your data after an outage the backup doesn't work. Other things you should think about backing up: any content uploaded by users including photos, video, text, etc. You should be backing up source code, your project management tool if you're using one and anything else you'd really hate to lose. Good luck! On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: I think the OP put the main emphasis on legal requirements himself, but fair point he did mention running the site as well as administrative and technical issues. I think the subject matters are little too general to be able to recommend a selection of books that will be ideal for you. I am guilty of not reading enough books myself, which further diminishes my ability to make good recommendations. I would say the first thing you need after launching a site is quality traffic, so the first 6 months is likely to be spent on writing good content that sets your website apart form the rest and then carrying out SEO (possibly SEM depending on your budget) efforts to make sure people know it exists. An important part of this process is statistical analysis of your traffic and you can't go far wrong if using Google Analytics. I bought 'Web Analytics: An Hour A Day' which is highly recommended nut haven't had the time to read it in detail and can;t remember if it is software specific or general?!? Once you have traffic you then need to be concerned about supporting your users and correcting any identified bugs, keeping an eye on user generated content, managing relationships between site members if you have any social networking features and controlling comment spam. Your technical issues all really lie with whoever you host your website with, so choose them carefully. Do a lot of research and make sure whoever you go with will be available and willing to help when you do encounter issues with your hosting. It's also a good idea do go with a host who provides you with a high quality Control Panel, SSH access and phpMyAdmin etc. as this allows you to do a lot of tweaks and fixes yourself. Other stuff to consider is how often does the host upgrade their server software such as updates to the Control Panel, MySQL, PHP, Anti-Virus, Webmail etc. It all sounds a lot when you right it down, but really running a website is not overly time intensive, unless you;re running a highly successful site, and that would be nice, but is unlikely to happen over-night. Launch it and tackle the issues head on as the arise, but most of all enjoy it, it sure beats a 9-5 desk job if it can replace the wage! Paul. Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://cakeqs.organd help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcake-php%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comFor more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -- - You can't reason people out of a position they didn't use reason to get into. Christian Leskowsky -- - You can't reason people out of a position they didn't use reason to get into. Christian Leskowsky Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
Do go on...is there a Cake-friendly method for automated daily DB backups? How do you accomplish it? On Feb 24, 8:26 am, Christian Leskowsky christian.leskow...@gmail.com wrote: For backups you should be taking full mysql backups of your database nightly - at least while that's feasible - and storing them offsite. (S3 is what I personally use.) Keep at least a week's worth of backups in case you accidentally drop table or something equally terrible happens. Make sure you test restoring from your backup too... regularly. What often happens is you may very well have an ironclad backup strategy but when it comes time to actually restore your data after an outage the backup doesn't work. Other things you should think about backing up: any content uploaded by users including photos, video, text, etc. You should be backing up source code, your project management tool if you're using one and anything else you'd really hate to lose. Good luck! On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: I think the OP put the main emphasis on legal requirements himself, but fair point he did mention running the site as well as administrative and technical issues. I think the subject matters are little too general to be able to recommend a selection of books that will be ideal for you. I am guilty of not reading enough books myself, which further diminishes my ability to make good recommendations. I would say the first thing you need after launching a site is quality traffic, so the first 6 months is likely to be spent on writing good content that sets your website apart form the rest and then carrying out SEO (possibly SEM depending on your budget) efforts to make sure people know it exists. An important part of this process is statistical analysis of your traffic and you can't go far wrong if using Google Analytics. I bought 'Web Analytics: An Hour A Day' which is highly recommended nut haven't had the time to read it in detail and can;t remember if it is software specific or general?!? Once you have traffic you then need to be concerned about supporting your users and correcting any identified bugs, keeping an eye on user generated content, managing relationships between site members if you have any social networking features and controlling comment spam. Your technical issues all really lie with whoever you host your website with, so choose them carefully. Do a lot of research and make sure whoever you go with will be available and willing to help when you do encounter issues with your hosting. It's also a good idea do go with a host who provides you with a high quality Control Panel, SSH access and phpMyAdmin etc. as this allows you to do a lot of tweaks and fixes yourself. Other stuff to consider is how often does the host upgrade their server software such as updates to the Control Panel, MySQL, PHP, Anti-Virus, Webmail etc. It all sounds a lot when you right it down, but really running a website is not overly time intensive, unless you;re running a highly successful site, and that would be nice, but is unlikely to happen over-night. Launch it and tackle the issues head on as the arise, but most of all enjoy it, it sure beats a 9-5 desk job if it can replace the wage! Paul. Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://cakeqs.organd help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcake-php%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comFor more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -- - You can't reason people out of a position they didn't use reason to get into. Christian Leskowsky Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
I am most concerned about legal issues because I am least equipped to handle those myself. While I do not necessarily expect to be sued, frankly I do expect to be threatened with lawsuits in short order, and I want to know exactly where I stand before that happens. (I intend to create a crowd-sourced review site, somewhat similar to Yelp.) I could pay a lawyer $400 for an overview, but I'd rather spend $40 on a book with the same information. Or even better, get input from people in this group who have already walked the path. On Feb 23, 8:58 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: I think the OP put the main emphasis on legal requirements himself, but fair point he did mention running the site as well as administrative and technical issues. I think the subject matters are little too general to be able to recommend a selection of books that will be ideal for you. I am guilty of not reading enough books myself, which further diminishes my ability to make good recommendations. I would say the first thing you need after launching a site is quality traffic, so the first 6 months is likely to be spent on writing good content that sets your website apart form the rest and then carrying out SEO (possibly SEM depending on your budget) efforts to make sure people know it exists. An important part of this process is statistical analysis of your traffic and you can't go far wrong if using Google Analytics. I bought 'Web Analytics: An Hour A Day' which is highly recommended nut haven't had the time to read it in detail and can;t remember if it is software specific or general?!? Once you have traffic you then need to be concerned about supporting your users and correcting any identified bugs, keeping an eye on user generated content, managing relationships between site members if you have any social networking features and controlling comment spam. Your technical issues all really lie with whoever you host your website with, so choose them carefully. Do a lot of research and make sure whoever you go with will be available and willing to help when you do encounter issues with your hosting. It's also a good idea do go with a host who provides you with a high quality Control Panel, SSH access and phpMyAdmin etc. as this allows you to do a lot of tweaks and fixes yourself. Other stuff to consider is how often does the host upgrade their server software such as updates to the Control Panel, MySQL, PHP, Anti-Virus, Webmail etc. It all sounds a lot when you right it down, but really running a website is not overly time intensive, unless you;re running a highly successful site, and that would be nice, but is unlikely to happen over-night. Launch it and tackle the issues head on as the arise, but most of all enjoy it, it sure beats a 9-5 desk job if it can replace the wage! Paul. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
Not that I'm aware of - I think you're pretty much on your own when it comes to backing up -but don't worry it's not terribly exciting or nerve-racking when you're small. We've written a custom php script that exports, compresses and uploads our db to S3 with a datestamp embedded somewhere in the filename. Every time we push a new backup to S3 we delete the oldest. In terms of tools that's mysqldump, gzip and a basic S3 php library I found here I was able to get the gist of and start using in about 30 minutes (the very best kind... :-]): http://undesigned.org.za/2007/10/22/amazon-s3-php-class On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Johnny Cupcake sparklew...@hotmail.comwrote: Do go on...is there a Cake-friendly method for automated daily DB backups? How do you accomplish it? On Feb 24, 8:26 am, Christian Leskowsky christian.leskow...@gmail.com wrote: For backups you should be taking full mysql backups of your database nightly - at least while that's feasible - and storing them offsite. (S3 is what I personally use.) Keep at least a week's worth of backups in case you accidentally drop table or something equally terrible happens. Make sure you test restoring from your backup too... regularly. What often happens is you may very well have an ironclad backup strategy but when it comes time to actually restore your data after an outage the backup doesn't work. Other things you should think about backing up: any content uploaded by users including photos, video, text, etc. You should be backing up source code, your project management tool if you're using one and anything else you'd really hate to lose. Good luck! On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: I think the OP put the main emphasis on legal requirements himself, but fair point he did mention running the site as well as administrative and technical issues. I think the subject matters are little too general to be able to recommend a selection of books that will be ideal for you. I am guilty of not reading enough books myself, which further diminishes my ability to make good recommendations. I would say the first thing you need after launching a site is quality traffic, so the first 6 months is likely to be spent on writing good content that sets your website apart form the rest and then carrying out SEO (possibly SEM depending on your budget) efforts to make sure people know it exists. An important part of this process is statistical analysis of your traffic and you can't go far wrong if using Google Analytics. I bought 'Web Analytics: An Hour A Day' which is highly recommended nut haven't had the time to read it in detail and can;t remember if it is software specific or general?!? Once you have traffic you then need to be concerned about supporting your users and correcting any identified bugs, keeping an eye on user generated content, managing relationships between site members if you have any social networking features and controlling comment spam. Your technical issues all really lie with whoever you host your website with, so choose them carefully. Do a lot of research and make sure whoever you go with will be available and willing to help when you do encounter issues with your hosting. It's also a good idea do go with a host who provides you with a high quality Control Panel, SSH access and phpMyAdmin etc. as this allows you to do a lot of tweaks and fixes yourself. Other stuff to consider is how often does the host upgrade their server software such as updates to the Control Panel, MySQL, PHP, Anti-Virus, Webmail etc. It all sounds a lot when you right it down, but really running a website is not overly time intensive, unless you;re running a highly successful site, and that would be nice, but is unlikely to happen over-night. Launch it and tackle the issues head on as the arise, but most of all enjoy it, it sure beats a 9-5 desk job if it can replace the wage! Paul. Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://cakeqs.organd help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcake-php%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com cake-php%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comcake-php%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comFor more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -- - You can't reason people out of a position they didn't use reason to get into. Christian Leskowsky Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: After the Cake is baked...
@Christian: How much does the Amazon S3 service cost you? I just took a look at their calculator and all of the examples shows $64 a month upwards for the S3 service http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/calc5.html @Johnny: I have no experience in the legalities of such a site, but can see where it's potential controversy lies. I would be happy with some common-sense terms and conditions that state the views within user contributed content are those of the contributor, not the site owner. Also make sure there is a transparent mechanism for people to complain about reviews and always an open invite for the person/company being reviewed to respond. You have to have a brand that is whiter than white/totally impartial who will route out any malicious reviewers, otherwise you risk being perceived as a shock jock site which will damage your creditability. The problem I have with sites of this nature is where do they make their revenue from, I would imagine in this case it's advertising, probably local 'restaurant in my town' type stuff? If you're looking to make money this way then ultimately you're hosting potentially damaging reviews about your clients, which can smack slightly of biting the hand that feeds you. Anyway, I wish you luck with your site and hope it's different to the hundreds of other review your suppliers type sites that already exist. At least Yelp looks to take a positive stint on things, maybe I've read too many such sites when in a negative mood or have crap suppliers so never read good reviews about them. Paul. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
For backups you should be taking full mysql backups of your database nightly - at least while that's feasible - and storing them offsite. (S3 is what I personally use.) Keep at least a week's worth of backups in case you accidentally drop table or something equally terrible happens. Make sure you test restoring from your backup too... regularly. What often happens is you may very well have an ironclad backup strategy but when it comes time to actually restore your data after an outage the backup doesn't work. Other things you should think about backing up: any content uploaded by users including photos, video, text, etc. You should be backing up source code, your project management tool if you're using one and anything else you'd really hate to lose. Good luck! On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: I think the OP put the main emphasis on legal requirements himself, but fair point he did mention running the site as well as administrative and technical issues. I think the subject matters are little too general to be able to recommend a selection of books that will be ideal for you. I am guilty of not reading enough books myself, which further diminishes my ability to make good recommendations. I would say the first thing you need after launching a site is quality traffic, so the first 6 months is likely to be spent on writing good content that sets your website apart form the rest and then carrying out SEO (possibly SEM depending on your budget) efforts to make sure people know it exists. An important part of this process is statistical analysis of your traffic and you can't go far wrong if using Google Analytics. I bought 'Web Analytics: An Hour A Day' which is highly recommended nut haven't had the time to read it in detail and can;t remember if it is software specific or general?!? Once you have traffic you then need to be concerned about supporting your users and correcting any identified bugs, keeping an eye on user generated content, managing relationships between site members if you have any social networking features and controlling comment spam. Your technical issues all really lie with whoever you host your website with, so choose them carefully. Do a lot of research and make sure whoever you go with will be available and willing to help when you do encounter issues with your hosting. It's also a good idea do go with a host who provides you with a high quality Control Panel, SSH access and phpMyAdmin etc. as this allows you to do a lot of tweaks and fixes yourself. Other stuff to consider is how often does the host upgrade their server software such as updates to the Control Panel, MySQL, PHP, Anti-Virus, Webmail etc. It all sounds a lot when you right it down, but really running a website is not overly time intensive, unless you;re running a highly successful site, and that would be nice, but is unlikely to happen over-night. Launch it and tackle the issues head on as the arise, but most of all enjoy it, it sure beats a 9-5 desk job if it can replace the wage! Paul. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcake-php%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comFor more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -- - You can't reason people out of a position they didn't use reason to get into. Christian Leskowsky Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
Here's something I haven't read yet but was written by a guy who knows his stuff... http://boagworld.com/websiteownersmanual/ http://boagworld.com/websiteownersmanual/ Some good material in there for ya. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Christian Leskowsky christian.leskow...@gmail.com wrote: For backups you should be taking full mysql backups of your database nightly - at least while that's feasible - and storing them offsite. (S3 is what I personally use.) Keep at least a week's worth of backups in case you accidentally drop table or something equally terrible happens. Make sure you test restoring from your backup too... regularly. What often happens is you may very well have an ironclad backup strategy but when it comes time to actually restore your data after an outage the backup doesn't work. Other things you should think about backing up: any content uploaded by users including photos, video, text, etc. You should be backing up source code, your project management tool if you're using one and anything else you'd really hate to lose. Good luck! On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: I think the OP put the main emphasis on legal requirements himself, but fair point he did mention running the site as well as administrative and technical issues. I think the subject matters are little too general to be able to recommend a selection of books that will be ideal for you. I am guilty of not reading enough books myself, which further diminishes my ability to make good recommendations. I would say the first thing you need after launching a site is quality traffic, so the first 6 months is likely to be spent on writing good content that sets your website apart form the rest and then carrying out SEO (possibly SEM depending on your budget) efforts to make sure people know it exists. An important part of this process is statistical analysis of your traffic and you can't go far wrong if using Google Analytics. I bought 'Web Analytics: An Hour A Day' which is highly recommended nut haven't had the time to read it in detail and can;t remember if it is software specific or general?!? Once you have traffic you then need to be concerned about supporting your users and correcting any identified bugs, keeping an eye on user generated content, managing relationships between site members if you have any social networking features and controlling comment spam. Your technical issues all really lie with whoever you host your website with, so choose them carefully. Do a lot of research and make sure whoever you go with will be available and willing to help when you do encounter issues with your hosting. It's also a good idea do go with a host who provides you with a high quality Control Panel, SSH access and phpMyAdmin etc. as this allows you to do a lot of tweaks and fixes yourself. Other stuff to consider is how often does the host upgrade their server software such as updates to the Control Panel, MySQL, PHP, Anti-Virus, Webmail etc. It all sounds a lot when you right it down, but really running a website is not overly time intensive, unless you;re running a highly successful site, and that would be nice, but is unlikely to happen over-night. Launch it and tackle the issues head on as the arise, but most of all enjoy it, it sure beats a 9-5 desk job if it can replace the wage! Paul. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcake-php%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comFor more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -- - You can't reason people out of a position they didn't use reason to get into. Christian Leskowsky -- - You can't reason people out of a position they didn't use reason to get into. Christian Leskowsky Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
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Re: After the Cake is baked...
Is your website's subject matter a particularly sensitive/illegal one? If not then I'm unsure what you're worried about? There's possible compliance with Disability Discrimination Act, Distance Selling Regulations and a few terms and conditions to state that user contributed content contains the views of the user and not the site owner. But if you ignored these the worst you would truly get was a warning to comply, unless your developing something like the Australian Olympics website of course ... ergo the ONLY legal case against a web site for accessibility. http://contenu.nu/socog.html I've designed a lot of websites and never once have I or my clients felt threatened that we would be 'sued into oblivion'. Maybe it is an American thing?!? Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
I think the OP put the main emphasis on legal requirements himself, but fair point he did mention running the site as well as administrative and technical issues. I think the subject matters are little too general to be able to recommend a selection of books that will be ideal for you. I am guilty of not reading enough books myself, which further diminishes my ability to make good recommendations. I would say the first thing you need after launching a site is quality traffic, so the first 6 months is likely to be spent on writing good content that sets your website apart form the rest and then carrying out SEO (possibly SEM depending on your budget) efforts to make sure people know it exists. An important part of this process is statistical analysis of your traffic and you can't go far wrong if using Google Analytics. I bought 'Web Analytics: An Hour A Day' which is highly recommended nut haven't had the time to read it in detail and can;t remember if it is software specific or general?!? Once you have traffic you then need to be concerned about supporting your users and correcting any identified bugs, keeping an eye on user generated content, managing relationships between site members if you have any social networking features and controlling comment spam. Your technical issues all really lie with whoever you host your website with, so choose them carefully. Do a lot of research and make sure whoever you go with will be available and willing to help when you do encounter issues with your hosting. It's also a good idea do go with a host who provides you with a high quality Control Panel, SSH access and phpMyAdmin etc. as this allows you to do a lot of tweaks and fixes yourself. Other stuff to consider is how often does the host upgrade their server software such as updates to the Control Panel, MySQL, PHP, Anti-Virus, Webmail etc. It all sounds a lot when you right it down, but really running a website is not overly time intensive, unless you;re running a highly successful site, and that would be nice, but is unlikely to happen over-night. Launch it and tackle the issues head on as the arise, but most of all enjoy it, it sure beats a 9-5 desk job if it can replace the wage! Paul. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
Since everyone is taking the legal avenue with this post I'll take
the one that I think the author is more interested in. It's the
Where do I go from here after I bake a site?
The short answer to that is you customize. Baking only gives you a
lot to work with, but is your site ready for the big times? No. It
doesn't have security built in, it doesn't have e-mailing, any
specific application specific minded code in there. After you bake
your site you are left with a great start but it's not the finished
polished product.
The main parts that took me a while to grasp is the MVC model itself.
Know that what you need in a view can only be sent by the controller,
and what you need in a controller in terms of data can only be sent by
the model's. Sure there are exceptions but let's try to keep it
easy. Next will be looking at the code that was generated in the
bake, you'll see admin_index, index_edit ect (assuming you said yes
that you want admin routing). Those are admin only functions, and
they are how something like {domain}/admin/{function} translates to
function admin_{function}. So: {domain}/admin/edit/1 will go to
function admin_edit($id) (where $id is the 1 in this case).
Truth be told, I don't typically bake a site now unless it's a rather
complex site that I haven't done before or has way more tables than I
want to make models for manually. Most the time I copy and paste
files (since Cakephp is extremely module) and then build the specific
details of the application into it. Could you release a baked site
out into the wild? Sure. But will it be secure and be ready to
service your customers the way you want? Probably not.
I've developed a lot of sites in cake, and one that's really getting a
lot of attention lately is http://theeasyapi.com because it's an API
that connects to other API's easily and standardizes the output into
XML regardless how the other API's send data.
Enjoy, and happy baking!
On Feb 23, 3:11 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote:
Is your website's subject matter a particularly sensitive/illegal one?
If not then I'm unsure what you're worried about?
There's possible compliance with Disability Discrimination Act,
Distance Selling Regulations and a few terms and conditions to state
that user contributed content contains the views of the user and not
the site owner. But if you ignored these the worst you would truly
get was a warning to comply, unless your developing something like the
Australian Olympics website of course ... ergo the ONLY legal case
against a web site for accessibility.
http://contenu.nu/socog.html
I've designed a lot of websites and never once have I or my clients
felt threatened that we would be 'sued into oblivion'. Maybe it is an
American thing?!?
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Re: After the Cake is baked...
Avoid getting sued? Stop being an american work like a charm. ;) (sorry, I could not resist) On Feb 22, 8:39 am, Johnny Cupcake sparklew...@hotmail.com wrote: OK, so after we have successfully built our modern, interactive CakePHP website...where can we learn how to actually /run/ the website? Can you recommend any books or forums that provide a good introduction to all the legal, administrative and technical issues? For instance, best practices for data backups, how to avoid getting sued into oblivion, et cetera. The post title is in fun, of course--we all know these issues should be dealt with _before_ any coding takes place...right? ;) Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: After the Cake is baked...
Seriously though, surely someone can answer this question? If you can't point to a particular book, then what, in your experience, are the 3-5 most important points when first launching your Cake site? (Aside from stop being an American that is.) On Feb 22, 7:24 am, Martin Westin martin.westin...@gmail.com wrote: Avoid getting sued? Stop being an american work like a charm. ;) (sorry, I could not resist) On Feb 22, 8:39 am, Johnny Cupcake sparklew...@hotmail.com wrote: OK, so after we have successfully built our modern, interactive CakePHP website...where can we learn how to actually /run/ the website? Can you recommend any books or forums that provide a good introduction to all the legal, administrative and technical issues? For instance, best practices for data backups, how to avoid getting sued into oblivion, et cetera. The post title is in fun, of course--we all know these issues should be dealt with _before_ any coding takes place...right? ;) Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
After the Cake is baked...
OK, so after we have successfully built our modern, interactive CakePHP website...where can we learn how to actually /run/ the website? Can you recommend any books or forums that provide a good introduction to all the legal, administrative and technical issues? For instance, best practices for data backups, how to avoid getting sued into oblivion, et cetera. The post title is in fun, of course--we all know these issues should be dealt with _before_ any coding takes place...right? ;) Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
