Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-22 Thread olle

kain: if you have a mac you'll love it. 

Yeah, my other computer is a Powerbook.


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-22 Thread jitka

http://www.radrails.org/

They can ;-)


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 One thing I hope on, is to have the possibility to add our own code
 templates to the default ones.

Any decent editor/ide allows it's user to define chunks of code etc, to
be called.
Example in my environment (bluefish) i just have templates for .. like
everything.. models, controllers, views, requestactioncalls,
renderelement calls etc.  when i need such a thing i select it in the
menu, enter a few variables (like the modelname ), and off we go.

Working like this is already a great help to me

A step further would be auto-completion  real-time documenting of
available cake functions


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-21 Thread kain

textmate also can do it, especially with CAKE and Subversion bundle.
if you have a mac you'll love it.


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just curious - can you offer any information as to whether or not this
CakePHP is either based on Eclipse or will be offered as an Eclipse
plugin?  If so - awesome!  If not, I'm sure it will still be great but
I am a HUGE Eclipse fan.


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-21 Thread nate

I thought someone was working on an Eclipse plugin at one point...

If not, feel free to start one ; )


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Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-20 Thread Galathas

Hi to all bakers!

First - I want to thank to all developers of CAKE php framework. I am
pretty new to CAKE, but as I am digging deeper inside it I love it more
and more. Much thanks for it!

Second - Has anyone thought about developing some kind of simple like
IDE app suited for CAKE ? And yes, I know about excellent bake.php
script - BUT with this I mean, some app that would create new project
(automatically observes all config in user enviroment and set all
needed things it accordingly ), create all m/c/v with all associations,
generate forms automatically ( + wizard based custom validation ), set
all views based on simple cssxhtml compliant pre-made templates
(2-collumn/3-collums - further modification possible after its done),
and preview it in the browser ? I think that this would be great BOOST
for CAKE, because this app would be simple enough to use for begginer
cake bakers ( advanced options for master bakers would be still
present) to start using this very quickly ! The main reason for I think
about this, is that I tommorow read through hundred pages CAKE manual
and I feel a little bit confused about complexity of CAKE framework ( I
never used simmilar framework - as I said I am pretty new to this) , I
think about this app as little shortcut for begginers, cause there is a
lot of constants, rules which we need to know to use cake properly and
effectively, and after that there is MCV model, which is excellent in
idea, but a little bit difficult to understand for framework rookies
like me :-) . And that is one of possible things, which this like IDE
app could take care of for begginers.

Any ideas, thoughts on this topic ? Please share them. I am looking
forward your posts !

Have a nice day to all bakers :-)


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-20 Thread olle

Welcome to Cake, G.

Perspective: Nowadays, there is a manual, with things in it that one
can learn from. Great times, indeed. I believe the shortcut the
newcomer is looking for _is_ the manual. A story told in sequence,
telling little bits, one at a time. I am a sucker for manuals.

The search Cake function at the website, is also golden for the
newcomer.

I heard Ruby on Rails developer David Heinemeier Hansson talk about
generated scaffolding (think about the code that Bake.php outputs,
that's the stuff I mean). It is primarily a teaching tool, so we
should maximize the teaching of convention in those generated files.

Perhaps /cake/scripts/bake.php could become better at teaching the
conventions?

cheers,
   Olle


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-20 Thread nate

Hey Olle, interesting idea.

Galathas, also an interesting idea (but Bakehaus would be way
cooler).  Actually, there is a CakePHP IDE in development, and I hear
there's supposed to be a beta out in a couple months.


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-20 Thread Ryan Petrain
Where can we read up on the CakePHP IDE? I would like to find out moreOn 9/20/06, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:Hey Olle, interesting idea.Galathas, also an interesting idea (but Bakehaus would be way
cooler).Actually, there is a CakePHP IDE in development, and I hearthere's supposed to be a beta out in a couple months.

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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-20 Thread nate

Nowhere as yet.  I'll post details as soon as I have some.


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Re: Bakehouse anybody ??

2006-09-20 Thread Olivier Percebois-Garve

Hi. I'd love to heard  about the future of bake. Not when but what, 
having an idea of the direction.
I loved rdbakery, which was quite web developer-friendly rather than 
sysadmin-friendly like bake.
One thing I hope on, is to have the possibility to add our own code 
templates to the default ones.
Any informal info that can be disclosed ?


nate wrote:
 Nowhere as yet.  I'll post details as soon as I have some.


 

   


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