Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-11 Thread Miles J

I use eclipse at work and its pretty bad. The project tree also
freezes up and eclipse crashes, it hogs a ton of memory, it always has
unexpected errors, etc.

On Sep 11, 6:42 am, Bert Van den Brande  wrote:
> I also use Eclipse PDT.
>
> Pro's :
> * out of the box support for debugging with Zend and XDebug (what
> developer can live without debugging ?)
> * code completion
> * SVN integration (requires plugin)
> * Mylyn (task based contexts) and the Jira | TRAC connector
>
> Con's :
> * memory usage is rather big
> * overall performance drops now and then
>
> Tried NetBeans a couple of times but couldn't get used to the
> shortcuts + didn't see any real advantages over Eclipse ...
>
> Friendly greetings,
> Bert
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Werschinger  
> wrote:
>
> > I want to add to Kornelije's post that there's also free Komodo Edit,
> > which I use under Mac OS and like a lot. Some features I often use:
> > - snippets
> > - custom keyboard combinations
> > - split view (e.g. when editing two parts of a long file)
>
> > It is available for all major operating systems.
>
> > The IDE is much more powerful but also costly.
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-11 Thread Bert Van den Brande

I also use Eclipse PDT.

Pro's :
* out of the box support for debugging with Zend and XDebug (what
developer can live without debugging ?)
* code completion
* SVN integration (requires plugin)
* Mylyn (task based contexts) and the Jira | TRAC connector

Con's :
* memory usage is rather big
* overall performance drops now and then

Tried NetBeans a couple of times but couldn't get used to the
shortcuts + didn't see any real advantages over Eclipse ...


Friendly greetings,
Bert

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Werschinger  wrote:
>
> I want to add to Kornelije's post that there's also free Komodo Edit,
> which I use under Mac OS and like a lot. Some features I often use:
> - snippets
> - custom keyboard combinations
> - split view (e.g. when editing two parts of a long file)
>
> It is available for all major operating systems.
>
> The IDE is much more powerful but also costly.
>
> >
>

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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-11 Thread Werschinger

I want to add to Kornelije's post that there's also free Komodo Edit,
which I use under Mac OS and like a lot. Some features I often use:
- snippets
- custom keyboard combinations
- split view (e.g. when editing two parts of a long file)

It is available for all major operating systems.

The IDE is much more powerful but also costly.

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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread jason m

For me, I work with Japanese (EUC-JP, SHIFT-JIS, etc), so I really
don't know
about encodings in different languages. Some sites that I work with
are in those
encodings and it would be very difficult to convert all the files to
UTF8. Free
programs like Eclipse, TextWrangler, Smultron, etc can open the the
files in
the encodings I need but with Textmate it is impossible. I also
remember a blog
post from the Textmate developer that said they have no intentions of
adding
support for these encodings anytime soon. If almost every other free
texteditor/IDE
can open these can support many encodings, I wonder why textmate,
which is not
free, cannot.

On Sep 10, 11:45 pm, Martin Westin  wrote:
> On Sep 10, 1:05 pm, jason m  wrote:
>
> > The only downside of textmate is that it doesn't really
> > support any
> > other encodings besides UTF8.
>
> > Jason
>
> Say what? How do you mean Textmate doesn't support any other encoding?
> It works quite happily in 8859-1 (aka latin1) and Mac roman, and I am
> Swedish and frequently have documents containing "problematic"
> characters like åäö. It does lac the myriad of encodings some editors
> support (like all the different iso variations) so I guess to some
> language-specific documents there might be a problem.
>
> Textmate is a bit obscure on how to convert encodings. It involves re-
> opening documents with a new encoding and then "save as" and setting
> the new one which is not as flexible as SubEthaEdit for example.
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread Martin Westin

On Sep 10, 1:05 pm, jason m  wrote:
> The only downside of textmate is that it doesn't really
> support any
> other encodings besides UTF8.
>
> Jason

Say what? How do you mean Textmate doesn't support any other encoding?
It works quite happily in 8859-1 (aka latin1) and Mac roman, and I am
Swedish and frequently have documents containing "problematic"
characters like åäö. It does lac the myriad of encodings some editors
support (like all the different iso variations) so I guess to some
language-specific documents there might be a problem.

Textmate is a bit obscure on how to convert encodings. It involves re-
opening documents with a new encoding and then "save as" and setting
the new one which is not as flexible as SubEthaEdit for example.
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread Ian R

On Sep 10, 3:49 am, "#2Will"  wrote:
> I use Coda. Its really nice, has ftp and source control integration
> etc.  if it had code completion for cake it would be awesome.

There's something out there I read about in my experimenting with
Coda... here: 
http://douglasjarquin.com/articles/how-to-add-a-cakephp-book-to-coda/

Don't quite know what a "Book" is in this context but maybe helpful if
you haven't seen it.

Personally, I use skEdit, which has its ups and downs, but I like it
and wanted to mention it.  Still, though, I'm trying to switch to
something a little different (Aptana is currently #1 on my list)...
but I keep falling back to skEdit because I'm so much faster that
way...

Ian
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread Guilherme

NetBeans for PHP en ZendStudio are the best IDE's for PHP development.
But ZendStudio not is free.

On Sep 10, 8:05 am, jason m  wrote:
> I have used textmate, coda, eclipse, netbeans, and aptana on Mac. For
> me,
> textmate has worked the best with the cakephp bundle. Although it is
> not free,
> I feel that I am the most productive on textmate because it uses a
> fraction of
> the memory of the Java based editors and is faster than coda. The real
> power
> of textmte is all of the different bundles which makes coding faster
> and more
> enjoyable. The only downside of textmate is that it doesn't really
> support any
> other encodings besides UTF8.
>
> Jason
>
> On Sep 10, 12:18 am, Bob Albert  wrote:
>
> > I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that  
> > it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone  
> > recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with  
> > CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too  
> > expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend framework.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Bob

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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread Smelly Eddie

AHHH

This is like the 1,000,000th post about an IDE.

Please search existing posts before creating duplicate threads!

On Sep 10, 8:22 am, Travis L  wrote:
> I have to put my vote in for Coda.  Simplicity.
>
> On Sep 10, 4:05 am, jason m  wrote:
>
> > I have used textmate, coda, eclipse, netbeans, and aptana on Mac. For
> > me,
> > textmate has worked the best with the cakephp bundle. Although it is
> > not free,
> > I feel that I am the most productive on textmate because it uses a
> > fraction of
> > the memory of the Java based editors and is faster than coda. The real
> > power
> > of textmte is all of the different bundles which makes coding faster
> > and more
> > enjoyable. The only downside of textmate is that it doesn't really
> > support any
> > other encodings besides UTF8.
>
> > Jason
>
> > On Sep 10, 12:18 am, Bob Albert  wrote:
>
> > > I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that  
> > > it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone  
> > > recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with  
> > > CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too  
> > > expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend framework.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread Travis L

I have to put my vote in for Coda.  Simplicity.

On Sep 10, 4:05 am, jason m  wrote:
> I have used textmate, coda, eclipse, netbeans, and aptana on Mac. For
> me,
> textmate has worked the best with the cakephp bundle. Although it is
> not free,
> I feel that I am the most productive on textmate because it uses a
> fraction of
> the memory of the Java based editors and is faster than coda. The real
> power
> of textmte is all of the different bundles which makes coding faster
> and more
> enjoyable. The only downside of textmate is that it doesn't really
> support any
> other encodings besides UTF8.
>
> Jason
>
> On Sep 10, 12:18 am, Bob Albert  wrote:
>
> > I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that  
> > it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone  
> > recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with  
> > CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too  
> > expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend framework.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread jason m

I have used textmate, coda, eclipse, netbeans, and aptana on Mac. For
me,
textmate has worked the best with the cakephp bundle. Although it is
not free,
I feel that I am the most productive on textmate because it uses a
fraction of
the memory of the Java based editors and is faster than coda. The real
power
of textmte is all of the different bundles which makes coding faster
and more
enjoyable. The only downside of textmate is that it doesn't really
support any
other encodings besides UTF8.

Jason

On Sep 10, 12:18 am, Bob Albert  wrote:
> I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that  
> it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone  
> recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with  
> CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too  
> expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend framework.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread Tokasa

I you will go for Eclipse...check this outhttp://
bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/setting-up-eclipse-to-work-with-cake

Tomas

On Sep 9, 6:00 pm, Tokasa  wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> I use on my Mac Eclipse with PHP support.http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
>
> It does not come with build-in cakes support but it is good for me.
> Anyway you can put cake's library in build path and you get also
> suggestion of cake core methods...
>
> Tomas
>
> On Sep 9, 5:18 pm, Bob Albert  wrote:
>
> > I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that  
> > it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone  
> > recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with  
> > CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too  
> > expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend framework.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread #2Will

I use Coda. Its really nice, has ftp and source control integration
etc.  if it had code completion for cake it would be awesome.

On Sep 10, 5:28 pm, Jon Bennett  wrote:
> Hi albert,
>
> > I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that
> > it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone
> > recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with
> > CakePHP framework?
>
> Gotta be TextMate
>
> --
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-10 Thread Jon Bennett

Hi albert,

> I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that
> it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone
> recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with
> CakePHP framework?

Gotta be TextMate

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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-09 Thread MattyHead

I bake in the command-line and edit with gedit like loke.  Haven't
made use of gmate yet.  (will check it out, thx, loke)

Matt

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:57 PM, loke  wrote:
>
> After using Eclipse PDT for almost four years now, and moving on to
> Eclipse Galileo, I found that Eclipse IDE is too slow, and hogs too
> much of memory, and CPU resources. It does support soft wrapping using
> Athik's wrapper plugin. I tried NetBeans recently which does not have
> any support for wrapping. So I moved on to GEdit, a simple text editor
> on Gnome with GMate plugin becomes the work horse that I need it to
> be. And it works for the one tenth of the resources required by a Java
> based IDE.
>
> Loke
>
> On Sep 9, 2:04 pm, Kornelije Sajler  wrote:
>> Komodo IDE is quite OK and has a nice support for CakePHP.
>> Setup screencast can be found
>> here
>> .
>>
>> Kornelije Sajler
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 19:03, Bob Albert  wrote:
>>
>> > Tomas - thanks. I downloaded the Eclipse for PHP developers. Is that
>> > the same thing as adding PDT to Eclipse?
>>
>> > Bob
>>
>> > On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Tokasa wrote:
>>
>> > > Hi Bob,
>> > > I use on my Mac Eclipse with PHP support.
>> > >http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
>>
>> > > It does not come with build-in cakes support but it is good for me.
>> > > Anyway you can put cake's library in build path and you get also
>> > > suggestion of cake core methods...
>>
>> > > Tomas
>>
>> > > On Sep 9, 5:18 pm, Bob Albert  wrote:
>> > >> I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that
>> > >> it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone
>> > >> recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with
>> > >> CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too
>> > >> expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend
>> > >> framework.
>>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >> Bob
> >
>

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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-09 Thread loke

After using Eclipse PDT for almost four years now, and moving on to
Eclipse Galileo, I found that Eclipse IDE is too slow, and hogs too
much of memory, and CPU resources. It does support soft wrapping using
Athik's wrapper plugin. I tried NetBeans recently which does not have
any support for wrapping. So I moved on to GEdit, a simple text editor
on Gnome with GMate plugin becomes the work horse that I need it to
be. And it works for the one tenth of the resources required by a Java
based IDE.

Loke

On Sep 9, 2:04 pm, Kornelije Sajler  wrote:
> Komodo IDE is quite OK and has a nice support for CakePHP.
> Setup screencast can be found
> here
> .
>
> Kornelije Sajler
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 19:03, Bob Albert  wrote:
>
> > Tomas - thanks. I downloaded the Eclipse for PHP developers. Is that
> > the same thing as adding PDT to Eclipse?
>
> > Bob
>
> > On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Tokasa wrote:
>
> > > Hi Bob,
> > > I use on my Mac Eclipse with PHP support.
> > >http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
>
> > > It does not come with build-in cakes support but it is good for me.
> > > Anyway you can put cake's library in build path and you get also
> > > suggestion of cake core methods...
>
> > > Tomas
>
> > > On Sep 9, 5:18 pm, Bob Albert  wrote:
> > >> I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that
> > >> it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone
> > >> recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with
> > >> CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too
> > >> expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend
> > >> framework.
>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Bob
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-09 Thread Kornelije Sajler
Komodo IDE is quite OK and has a nice support for CakePHP.
Setup screencast can be found
here
.

Kornelije Sajler

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 19:03, Bob Albert  wrote:

>
> Tomas - thanks. I downloaded the Eclipse for PHP developers. Is that
> the same thing as adding PDT to Eclipse?
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Tokasa wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> > I use on my Mac Eclipse with PHP support.
> > http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
> >
> > It does not come with build-in cakes support but it is good for me.
> > Anyway you can put cake's library in build path and you get also
> > suggestion of cake core methods...
> >
> > Tomas
> >
> > On Sep 9, 5:18 pm, Bob Albert  wrote:
> >> I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that
> >> it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone
> >> recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with
> >> CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too
> >> expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend
> >> framework.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bob
> > >
>
>
> >
>

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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-09 Thread Bob Albert

Tomas - thanks. I downloaded the Eclipse for PHP developers. Is that  
the same thing as adding PDT to Eclipse?

Bob


On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Tokasa wrote:

>
> Hi Bob,
> I use on my Mac Eclipse with PHP support.
> http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
>
> It does not come with build-in cakes support but it is good for me.
> Anyway you can put cake's library in build path and you get also
> suggestion of cake core methods...
>
> Tomas
>
> On Sep 9, 5:18 pm, Bob Albert  wrote:
>> I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that
>> it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone
>> recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with
>> CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too
>> expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend  
>> framework.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
> >


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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-09 Thread Tokasa

Hi Bob,
I use on my Mac Eclipse with PHP support.
http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/

It does not come with build-in cakes support but it is good for me.
Anyway you can put cake's library in build path and you get also
suggestion of cake core methods...

Tomas

On Sep 9, 5:18 pm, Bob Albert  wrote:
> I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that  
> it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone  
> recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with  
> CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too  
> expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend framework.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
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Re: PHP IDEs

2009-09-09 Thread Thiago Nuic Vidigal
I like netbeans a lot. It shows documentation from PHP functions inline in
the editor, which is very useful.


On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Bob Albert  wrote:

>
> I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that
> it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone
> recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with
> CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too
> expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend framework.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> >
>

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PHP IDEs

2009-09-09 Thread Bob Albert

I've been doing my PHP coding in BBedit on the Mac, but thinking that  
it would be better if I started to use an IDE for PHP. Can anyone  
recommend a good free or low cost one that works well on Mac and with  
CakePHP framework? I've briefly looked at Zend Studio but it's too  
expensive for me right now and looks to be geared toward Zend framework.

Thanks,
Bob

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