Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
Well this is all good news. Sounds like I'm migrating to 1.2 :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
I'll pipe in here to say that the next version of SlideShowPro Director (1.1) will run on Cake 1.2. We've been in beta testing for a few months now, and with our current release candidate installed on north of 500 domains, we haven't seen any Cake related issues. Issues of my own making, however, are another matter ;) Brad --- Brad Daily Developer, SlideShowPro Director http://slideshowpro.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 10, 2:50 pm, "Troy Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm wondering how stable 1.2 is currently? I've got a site with a > minimal feature set currently built with 1.1 and we're about to do a > significant rework/expansion of the site over the next month. Would it > make sense to migrate to 1.2? Where can I go to get a good comparison > of 1.1 vs. 1.2 in regards to features? > > Thanks! > > Troy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
@Ismael Then why are you still on this list? Or why even bother responding? I think the expression is "if you dont have something nice to say, dont say it at all" @Troy http://ahsanity.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/cakephp-12-the-romance-continues/ http://www.cakephp.org/files/OCPHP.pdf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
On Sep 10, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Troy Gilbert wrote: > >> Show me how to build Digg with Ruby on Rails and I will believe that >> RoR is better than a PHP-backed solution. There, I said it. > > I certainly agree with that sentiment (hence, why I built the site > with CakePHP in the first place). I've read all of "The David's" > presentations (and books) on RoR and tend to agree with all of the > *design* decisions, but don't care particularly for the implementation > -- well, I don't care for Ruby all that much. > > Honestly, I spend *most* of my time working in the curly-bracket > language world (AS3, C#, C++) and while I can pretty fluently read > Ruby, jumping back and forth between writing it and the others is just > an unnecessary overhead. > > Plus, PHP is a defacto web development standard. I can go anywhere and > safely expect a LAMP backend on a server. Sure, I can find Rails > when/if I need it without much of a problem, but LAMP is universal. > > It reminds me of my AI professor in college who always espoused the > virtues of Scheme... my computer science self could appreciate the > elegance, but my pragmatic self would simply moan and roll his eyes. > > I take the Rails community as a source of *inspiration* for my work in > MVC (with both CakePHP and AS3/Flex), but have decided to skip on > their implementation for now. > > So, it sounds like I should switch the dev-line over to CakePHP 1.2. I > know the Manual on cakephp.org is aimed at CakePHP 1.1... is there a > similar doc for CakePHP 1.2 that I could munch on? We'll be putting up a development version of the 1.2 manual shortly. It's not quite complete (re: work in progress), but it's better than nothing, and there's about 135 printed pages worth of information we can be sharing. Stay tuned. -- John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
Just my 2 cents : I have used 1.1 for my first application now live. I am in development stage for the second one and I am using 1.2. I admit that I could not get to 1.1 anymore. Once you tried it, you can't go back .. I have to migrate my first application, but . well it works and I wait a big for changes to do the migration .. To summarize, go for 1.2. There is nothing you can do in 1.1 that 1.2 can't handle, and there is much more in 1.2. If you do not make the step now, you will have to make it for next project or for an upgrade. If you look at bakery all the new code is almost 100% for 1.2, 1.1 evolution is now limited mainly to bugs fixing. Franck On Sep 10, 9:59 pm, "Mariano Iglesias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's not asking if he should try RoR, he's asking about 1.2 availability. > > So if you just wanna fill up your inbox with arguments, go somewhere else. I > know a couple of blogs that would benefit from that. > > -MI > > --- > > Remember, smart coders answer ten questions for every question they ask. > So be smart, be cool, and share your knowledge. > > BAKE ON! > > blog:http://www.MarianoIglesias.com.ar > > -Mensaje original- > De: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre > de Ismael S. Kafeltz > Enviado el: Lunes, 10 de Septiembre de 2007 04:47 p.m. > Para: Cake PHP > Asunto: Re: 1.2 ready for prime time? > > I abandoned cake few days ago and now I'm using Ruby on Rails because > I think cake takes too much time to evolve and I could wait more one > year to finally use it seriously. > In my opinion you should study RoR before rework/expansion because you > will have immediately results. > > On 10 set, 15:50, "Troy Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm wondering how stable 1.2 is currently? I've got a site with a > > minimal feature set currently built with 1.1 and we're about to do a > > significant rework/expansion of the site over the next month. Would it > > make sense to migrate to 1.2? Where can I go to get a good comparison > > of 1.1 vs. 1.2 in regards to features? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
> Show me how to build Digg with Ruby on Rails and I will believe that > RoR is better than a PHP-backed solution. There, I said it. I certainly agree with that sentiment (hence, why I built the site with CakePHP in the first place). I've read all of "The David's" presentations (and books) on RoR and tend to agree with all of the *design* decisions, but don't care particularly for the implementation -- well, I don't care for Ruby all that much. Honestly, I spend *most* of my time working in the curly-bracket language world (AS3, C#, C++) and while I can pretty fluently read Ruby, jumping back and forth between writing it and the others is just an unnecessary overhead. Plus, PHP is a defacto web development standard. I can go anywhere and safely expect a LAMP backend on a server. Sure, I can find Rails when/if I need it without much of a problem, but LAMP is universal. It reminds me of my AI professor in college who always espoused the virtues of Scheme... my computer science self could appreciate the elegance, but my pragmatic self would simply moan and roll his eyes. I take the Rails community as a source of *inspiration* for my work in MVC (with both CakePHP and AS3/Flex), but have decided to skip on their implementation for now. So, it sounds like I should switch the dev-line over to CakePHP 1.2. I know the Manual on cakephp.org is aimed at CakePHP 1.1... is there a similar doc for CakePHP 1.2 that I could munch on? Troy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
My EURO 0.02 I would personally like to applaud and thank the CakePHP team for remaining focused on releasing *quality* software rather than pumping up their version numbers like so many commercial products. I am quite happy to wait as long as it takes for 1.2 in the knowledge it'll be solid and feature packed. I could go on but I won't. Thanks guys! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: 1.2 ready for prime time?
He's not asking if he should try RoR, he's asking about 1.2 availability. So if you just wanna fill up your inbox with arguments, go somewhere else. I know a couple of blogs that would benefit from that. -MI --- Remember, smart coders answer ten questions for every question they ask. So be smart, be cool, and share your knowledge. BAKE ON! blog: http://www.MarianoIglesias.com.ar -Mensaje original- De: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Ismael S. Kafeltz Enviado el: Lunes, 10 de Septiembre de 2007 04:47 p.m. Para: Cake PHP Asunto: Re: 1.2 ready for prime time? I abandoned cake few days ago and now I'm using Ruby on Rails because I think cake takes too much time to evolve and I could wait more one year to finally use it seriously. In my opinion you should study RoR before rework/expansion because you will have immediately results. On 10 set, 15:50, "Troy Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm wondering how stable 1.2 is currently? I've got a site with a > minimal feature set currently built with 1.1 and we're about to do a > significant rework/expansion of the site over the next month. Would it > make sense to migrate to 1.2? Where can I go to get a good comparison > of 1.1 vs. 1.2 in regards to features? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
On 9/10/07, Ismael S. Kafeltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I abandoned cake few days ago and now I'm using Ruby on Rails because > I think cake takes too much time to evolve and I could wait more one > year to finally use it seriously. > In my opinion you should study RoR before rework/expansion because you > will have immediately results. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Ahem. Well, I guess people would prefer a much faster release cycle with lots of bugs. Look, I was into Rails at one time as well so I remember the days when Rails was unstable and had lots of bugs and there were near-daily releases to fix things that should've been caught. In my opinion, there is nothing more that CakePHP can learn from Rails. If you really think the core development team is not aware of what features Rails has, then you are sadly misinformed. Show me how to build Digg with Ruby on Rails and I will believe that RoR is better than a PHP-backed solution. There, I said it. -- Chris Hartjes Senior Developer Cake Development Corporation My motto for 2007: "Just build it, damnit!" @TheBallpark - http://www.littlehart.net/attheballpark @TheKeyboard - http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
I abandoned cake few days ago and now I'm using Ruby on Rails because I think cake takes too much time to evolve and I could wait more one year to finally use it seriously. In my opinion you should study RoR before rework/expansion because you will have immediately results. On 10 set, 15:50, "Troy Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm wondering how stable 1.2 is currently? I've got a site with a > minimal feature set currently built with 1.1 and we're about to do a > significant rework/expansion of the site over the next month. Would it > make sense to migrate to 1.2? Where can I go to get a good comparison > of 1.1 vs. 1.2 in regards to features? > > Thanks! > > Troy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.2 ready for prime time?
On 9/10/07, Troy Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm wondering how stable 1.2 is currently? I've got a site with a > minimal feature set currently built with 1.1 and we're about to do a > significant rework/expansion of the site over the next month. Would it > make sense to migrate to 1.2? Where can I go to get a good comparison > of 1.1 vs. 1.2 in regards to features? > > Thanks! > > Troy. Well, Troy, I work with the bleeding edge of Cake 1.2 every day and have enough confidence in it to use it with no qualms. I think the 'alpha' label is misleading, as CakePHP 1.2 is one of the most stable 'alpha' releases of Open Source software I have ever used. -- Chris Hartjes Senior Developer Cake Development Corporation My motto for 2007: "Just build it, damnit!" @TheBallpark - http://www.littlehart.net/attheballpark @TheKeyboard - http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
