Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-23 Thread Barton

Tarique, you mean that a reference project is nog really necessary
because we can digg into the code of the Cheesecake-Photoblog?

I think the problem with a reference project is that too many features
will be included which would make it very hard to termine which code is
for which feature. The project's code should contain loads of comments.


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-23 Thread kabturek

The whole idea is great but ...
Why not write bakery articles about is ?
And as far as i see it - there are many projects / snippets that show
these things - you only have to look for it...

I also liked rdOpenSource ( gwoo did you say that you want to release
the new rdBloggery ? ;) ) especially rdImage for image manipulation (
after some tweaks ;) )
Also AD7six demos are nice and they show some nice code :)
also Cheesecake but Tarique already did a nice advertisement ;)
and of course blogs - with cakebakers, nates and thinkingphp in the
lead ( RosSoft where are you ? ;) )

ok i went enough OT ;)

greets,
Marcin


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-23 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani

On 1/23/07, Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tarique, you mean that a reference project is nog really necessary
 because we can digg into the code of the Cheesecake-Photoblog?

No - I am saying that there are resources already available and again
I am in no way projecting Cheesecake-Photoblog as a reference project.

But yes I would like to point out that there are sufficient comments
in Cheesecake-Photoblog code and if you want any particular file to be
commented more just let us know :)

Another problem with a reference project might be keeping it updated
with the latest CakePHP development.

Cheers
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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-23 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani

On 1/23/07, kabturek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why not write bakery articles about is ?
 And as far as i see it - there are many projects / snippets that show
 these things - you only have to look for it...

Exactly my point, the fact that more people want more to be written
had infact prompted this thread..

 also Cheesecake but Tarique already did a nice advertisement ;)

:P :o)

Tarique

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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-23 Thread RichardAtHome

Some great comments for all concerned :-)

I haven't had a look at Cheesecake-Photoblog yet, but judging by its
feature list and a (very quick look at the code) I certainly will be!

I'm not trying to steal anyones thunder here. tbh, my reasons for
getting the project underway are pretty selfish. I intend to use it as
a tool to learn CakePHP beyond the basics of scaffolding etc.

My plan is still taking shape, but what I'd like to do write some
articles (and hopefully get them published, either on my blog or on the
Bakery on each of the components and how they all fit together.

Another problem with a reference project might be keeping it updated
with the latest CakePHP development. 

That was high up on my list of priorities.

As Cheescake seems to hit all the targets, perhaps I should think up
another application - there's no-point re-inventing the wheel is there?

Perhaps a inventory manager or an intranet portal?


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-23 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani

On 1/23/07, RichardAtHome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some great comments for all concerned :-)

 I haven't had a look at Cheesecake-Photoblog yet, but judging by its
 feature list and a (very quick look at the code) I certainly will be!
Thanks :)

 I'm not trying to steal anyones thunder here.
And neither was it my intention to discourage your project or any
other initiative.

 My plan is still taking shape, but what I'd like to do write some
 articles (and hopefully get them published, either on my blog or on the
 Bakery on each of the components and how they all fit together.
This would indeed be very helpful to the community.

 As Cheescake seems to hit all the targets, perhaps I should think up
 another application - there's no-point re-inventing the wheel is there?
Blogs (and in turn photoblogs) are greatly overused as examples.

A major area (among some others) which Cheesecake misses is - being
Multi User and in the needed ACO/ACL/ARO interactions.

 Perhaps a inventory manager or an intranet portal?
Anything different yet often used would be great.

Cheers
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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-23 Thread RichardAtHome

I think I might have come up with a possible application:

A forum. This seems to tick all the required boxes and I particularly
like the idea of building it to be embedded in another cake application
or run stand-alone.

I've had a look on cakeforge and the only other forum related project
is about including phpBB into an existing cake application.


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-23 Thread Walker Hamilton

@RichardAtHome

I have been working on writing a task-based manual for Textpattern. I
wrote the system that I am using to run the manual in Cake.
It's here: http://txpmanual.com

The Admin interface is integrated into the site (not a separate admin
section) once you've logged in as admin.

If you'd like an account to test it out, let me know.

Walker


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread RichardAtHome

Another thing to add to the list of components:

Email


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

using 3rd party components - for example some neat class for pdf export
(maybe fpdf?)

btw, i'd like to cooperate... is there a possibility?

martin


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani

On 1/22/07, RichardAtHome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok, I've had my moan about the documentation for cake ;-)

 Time to do something about it.

Great

 Anything else?

Addons / Plugins - which are truly plug and play

Making the app plugable into some popular CMS (Joomla?) and yet it can
still be used in stand alone mode.

And to put my time where my mouth is I am willing to spend some time
on fleshing out some of these things

Cheers
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RE: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread Christian Winther [cwi.dk]

I have created a IRC channel on Freenode for the relevant discussions:
#cakephp.doc  ( irc://irc.rizon.net/cakephp.doc )

/jippi

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On 1/22/07, RichardAtHome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok, I've had my moan about the documentation for cake ;-)

 Time to do something about it.

Great

 Anything else?

Addons / Plugins - which are truly plug and play

Making the app plugable into some popular CMS (Joomla?) and yet it can
still be used in stand alone mode.

And to put my time where my mouth is I am willing to spend some time
on fleshing out some of these things

Cheers
Tarique

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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread RichardAtHome

Thanks for the feedback so far :-)

I am, by no stretch of the imagination a Cake guru (this is why I'm
starting this project).

What I am planning on doing is to post first drafts of code as I
understand they should be written to this group and get
advice/tweaks/feedback. Hopefully, by the end of the discussion we
should have some code that follows best practices.


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread keymaster

... only because you said reference app:

secure authentication with captcha based login
ACL
user management/user groups
heirarchical categories
multi-language
pagination
demonstrates the various forms of caching
templatable admin panel
site management (turn on/off undergoing maintenance sign)
printing as text/html/pdf
anti-spam contact form


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread Barton

I think what has been mentioned above is more than enough for a sample
project.

Personally I think authentication and sending e-mails are most
important. These are basic stuff for every community project.


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread Samuel DeVore

Sounds like a great cakeforge project, that I would be willing to try
to help with as time allows!
On 1/22/07, Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think what has been mentioned above is more than enough for a sample
 project.

 Personally I think authentication and sending e-mails are most
 important. These are basic stuff for every community project.


 



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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread gwoo

http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/203


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Re: CakePHP Reference Project

2007-01-22 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani

On 1/22/07, Samuel DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sounds like a great cakeforge project, that I would be willing to try
 to help with as time allows!
Was looking through the list of features which folks would like to see
in a reference project and compared it with Cheesecake-Photoblog

Here is a list I came up with

What is there:
Secure authentication - Yes
ACL - Yes
Multicolumn layouts - Yes
Themes - Yes
Incorporating a 3rd party WYSIWYG editor - Yes
File Uploads - Yes
RSS feeds - Yes
Site Navigation / breadcrumb components - Yes
Addons / Plugins - which are truly plug and play - Yes
Heirarchical Categories/Tags - Yes
Pagination - Yes
Caching - Yes
Templatable admin panel - Yes
Site management and settings - Yes
Anti-spam measures - Yes (Akismet as well as Blacklist)
Email - Yes

What is not there and unlikely to be there
Article Search - No
Printing as text/html/pdf - No
User management/user groups - No (Photoblog is single user)

What is not there but planned
Making the app plugable into some popular CMS (Joomla?) and yet it can
still be used in stand alone mode. - No (Planned)
Multi-language - No (Planned when move to 1.2)

The purpose of this mail is not to blow my own trumpet nor it is a
statement that what (and how) these features have been implemented can
be de-facto reference.

It is just to highlight the fact that CakeForge as of today has 85
registered projects and I am sure the active and actively downloaded
projects have many of the reference features already in place. It is
just a matter of referring to them and I am sure that people out there
are doing that - I did it a lot with rdOpenSource.

So let us hear from other developers who have their projects on
Cakeforge or CakePHP projects based elsewhere

Cheers
Tarique

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