Re: Very Frustrated - No help for newbies !!!!

2006-05-24 Thread DavePorter

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the responses and sorry for delay in getting back.

I certainly didn't mean to rock the boat and apologies if I came over
as being a bit heavy...

 Larry, I certainly was NOT the person who was abusive in the IRC.

I will get back to things in the next day or so and work more closely
through the suggestions as I have time.  And I will certainly document
my findings and contribute them if they are of any help to future
newbies...

I'll be back with my findings.

regards, Dave Porter


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Re: Very Frustrated - No help for newbies !!!!

2006-05-23 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)


On May 23, 2006, at 6:50 PM, DavePorter wrote:


 HI All,

 I still can't get things working

 I cannot find a definitive document that tells me how to configure
 things.

 There are mistakes in the docs for configuring Apache  ( AllowOveride
 All  spelling error ).

 I found three occurances of AllowOverride in my httpd.conf.  Do I
 replace all of them with All OR which one of the three is the one !

Well, it should only be for the part of the server that  you have  
Cake in. Its usually not the manual or the icons but just the '/'  
directory. Maybe it would help for you to supply examples of what  
you're referencing.

 I find a number of different versions of the manual around the place.

http://manual.cakephp.org is the official manual.

 This newsgroups appears very quiet.  The irc was no help - no one
 responded to my requests for help !

Sorry - we try hard to be available. You can't really complain about  
free, though.

 I came to CakePHP after looking at RoR and I'm close to going back
 there.  As I know php and not Ruby I thought this would be a way to  
 go.

Do whatever you think is best. Please realize that Apache  
configuration problems are not CakePHP configuration problems, though  
they are closely related. Cake doesn't require mod_rewrite, so if  
push comes to shove, we can help you use Cake without it.

-- John

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Re: Very Frustrated - No help for newbies !!!!

2006-05-23 Thread John Zimmerman [gmail]
Also, if you want to look at a hosting setup that supports PHP, MySQL, Rails (if you choose), and various other things http://dreamhost.com is a great host that allows for commad line SSH access.
I am doing my development and most of my deployment on their servers and have had 0 problems with Cake.Something like this would allow you to not have to worry about apache configuration on your local machine.
On 5/23/06, John Zimmerman [gmail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://wiki.cakephp.org/docs:mod_rewriteHere is a link to an XAMPP specific reference in the wiki.
Just to reiterate and add to what was said before.
Apache Problems are not Cake ProblemsCake is FreeThe List is in fact active. Just count the TOTAL number of posts to the group today.Have you logged onto IRC to ask questions?

The creators and maintainers of Cake really aren't here to support infividuals (although I am sure everyone is trying to help as many people as possible, for free, as often as possible). They are here to support their project and the group. Individualized attention and support is usually something that comes with commercial software.
Be patient. Cake is a good framework which will become more robust over time (including the documentation)If you can post your htaccess file maybe someone who is also running XAMPP can analyze it, comparing it to their setup and suggest some changes.
If you require XAMPP help specifically you can also try to find someone with XAMPP experience on their support forums
http://www.apachefriends.org/f/?language=english
People will help. Just be patient and be sure to give us as much relevent info as possible.On 5/23/06, 
John David Anderson (_psychic_) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 23, 2006, at 6:50 PM, DavePorter wrote:
 HI All, I still can't get things working I cannot find a definitive document that tells me how to configure things. There are mistakes in the docs for configuring Apache( AllowOveride
 Allspelling error ). I found three occurances of AllowOverride in my httpd.conf.Do I replace all of them with All OR which one of the three is the one !Well, it should only be for the part of the server thatyou have
Cake in. Its usually not the manual or the icons but just the '/'directory. Maybe it would help for you to supply examples of whatyou're referencing. I find a number of different versions of the manual around the place.
http://manual.cakephp.org is the official manual. This newsgroups appears very quiet.The irc was no help - no one
 responded to my requests for help !
Sorry - we try hard to be available. You can't really complain aboutfree, though. I came to CakePHP after looking at RoR and I'm close to going back there.As I know php and not Ruby I thought this would be a way to
 go.Do whatever you think is best. Please realize that Apacheconfiguration problems are not CakePHP configuration problems, thoughthey are closely related. Cake doesn't require mod_rewrite, so if

push comes to shove, we can help you use Cake without it.-- John




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Re: Very Frustrated - No help for newbies !!!!

2006-05-23 Thread John Zimmerman [gmail]
Another wiki page that references configuration for XAMPPhttp://wiki.cakephp.org/faq:how_do_i_set_up_mod_rewriteIt relates to virtual hosts but the configuration suggestions there might help you key in on the root of the problem.
On 5/23/06, John Zimmerman [gmail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, if you want to look at a hosting setup that supports PHP, MySQL, Rails (if you choose), and various other things 
http://dreamhost.com is a great host that allows for commad line SSH access.
I am doing my development and most of my deployment on their servers and have had 0 problems with Cake.Something like this would allow you to not have to worry about apache configuration on your local machine.
On 5/23/06, John Zimmerman [gmail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://wiki.cakephp.org/docs:mod_rewriteHere is a link to an XAMPP specific reference in the wiki.
Just to reiterate and add to what was said before.
Apache Problems are not Cake ProblemsCake is FreeThe List is in fact active. Just count the TOTAL number of posts to the group today.Have you logged onto IRC to ask questions?


The creators and maintainers of Cake really aren't here to support infividuals (although I am sure everyone is trying to help as many people as possible, for free, as often as possible). They are here to support their project and the group. Individualized attention and support is usually something that comes with commercial software.
Be patient. Cake is a good framework which will become more robust over time (including the documentation)If you can post your htaccess file maybe someone who is also running XAMPP can analyze it, comparing it to their setup and suggest some changes.
If you require XAMPP help specifically you can also try to find someone with XAMPP experience on their support forums

http://www.apachefriends.org/f/?language=english
People will help. Just be patient and be sure to give us as much relevent info as possible.On 5/23/06, 
John David Anderson (_psychic_) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On May 23, 2006, at 6:50 PM, DavePorter wrote:
 HI All, I still can't get things working I cannot find a definitive document that tells me how to configure things. There are mistakes in the docs for configuring Apache( AllowOveride
 Allspelling error ). I found three occurances of AllowOverride in my httpd.conf.Do I replace all of them with All OR which one of the three is the one !Well, it should only be for the part of the server thatyou have
Cake in. Its usually not the manual or the icons but just the '/'directory. Maybe it would help for you to supply examples of whatyou're referencing. I find a number of different versions of the manual around the place.
http://manual.cakephp.org is the official manual. This newsgroups appears very quiet.The irc was no help - no one
 responded to my requests for help !
Sorry - we try hard to be available. You can't really complain aboutfree, though. I came to CakePHP after looking at RoR and I'm close to going back there.As I know php and not Ruby I thought this would be a way to
 go.Do whatever you think is best. Please realize that Apacheconfiguration problems are not CakePHP configuration problems, thoughthey are closely related. Cake doesn't require mod_rewrite, so if


push comes to shove, we can help you use Cake without it.-- John






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Re: Very Frustrated - No help for newbies !!!!

2006-05-23 Thread lifebythedrop

Dave,
I'm relatively new to cake and had a difficult time setting it up as
well.  As you said, irc is undoubtedly useless for in depth questions
or serious help.  Your best bet for help is this group.

If you can outline your webserver directory structure relevant to cake
and any changes you've made to configuration files, I'll try to help
you out.

Regards


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Re: Very Frustrated - No help for newbies !!!!

2006-05-23 Thread Larry E. Masters aka PhpNut
Dave,If you are one of the people who come to IRC and expect everyone to drop what there doing and answer your question in 30 seconds, good luck. I am personally on the IRC almost 24 hrs a day, today I have not been since I have been trying to get a wireless network running.
So my advice be patient first.And if you are the same person that came online and asked a question, did not get a reply right away then said F*** it and left the IRC, and I sent you a PM telling you that help is there in the IRC you have to be patient, I would prefer not to help you for your attitude and lack of respect for my time, and others who offer help to people in IRC for free. 
-- /*** @author Larry E. Masters* @var string $userName* @param string $realName* @returns string aka PhpNut* @accesspublic*/ 
On 5/23/06, DavePorter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HI All,I still can't get things workingI cannot find a definitive document that tells me how to configurethings.There are mistakes in the docs for configuring Apache( AllowOveride
Allspelling error ).I found three occurances of AllowOverride in my httpd.conf.Do Ireplace all of them with All OR which one of the three is the one !I find a number of different versions of the manual around the place.
This newsgroups appears very quiet.The irc was no help - no oneresponded to my requests for help !I came to CakePHP after looking at RoR and I'm close to going backthere.As I know php and not Ruby I thought this would be a way to go.
Can someone please help or recommend a better solution.regards, Dave-- /*** @author Larry E. Masters* @var string $userName* @param string $realName* @returns string aka PhpNut* @accesspublic*/ 

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Re: Very Frustrated - No help for newbies !!!!

2006-05-23 Thread hydra12

I'm using XAMPP on Windows XP Pro.  It's in c:\web\xampp.  Here's part
of my httpd.conf file:

#
# This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
#
Directory C:/web/xampp/htdocs

#
# Possible values for the Options directive are None, All,
# or any combination of:
#   Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks SymLinksifOwnerMatch ExecCGI
Multiviews
#
# Note that MultiViews must be named *explicitly* --- Options All
# doesn't give it to you.
#
# The Options directive is both complicated and important.  Please see
# http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#options
# for more information.
#
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes ExecCGI
AddType text/html .shtml
AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl

# ReadmeName footer.html
#
# AllowOverride controls what directives may be placed in .htaccess
files.
# It can be All, None, or any combination of the keywords:
#   Options FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
#
AllowOverride All

#
# Controls who can get stuff from this server.
#
Order allow,deny
Allow from all

/Directory


Also, make sure to uncomment this line:

#LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so

After doing that, restart apache.  That should do it for you.  If not,
post back and I'll try to get you more information tomorrow.

Good luck!
hydra12


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