Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
If I may, the quicker solution is just to fix the problem... I've opened a ticket, with a fix, in diff format. Basically, (if sosa reads this first) move lines 27-34 outside of the content div, before it starts. Or, as the diff says, move the line div id=content from line 26 to line 34. I realize it's the way it is to avoid creating a new layout for the home page, but it certainly makes debugging harder :-) I've tested this in the other big browsers too, so this fix won't break anything. There are other ie7 issues in the site, I'll take a look. On Feb 9, 11:37 pm, Dr. Tarique Sani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/9/07, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But as for your client, I propose an alternative solution: tell them you have chosen a different framework, but then use Cake anyway. I wouldn't recommend lying to a client. they are dense enough to believe that a server-side framework has any bearing whatsoever on client-side design, they won't know the difference. OTOH I would just dump such a client Cheers Tarique -- = PHP for E-Biz:http://sanisoft.com Cheesecake-Photoblog:http://cheesecake-photoblog.org = --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
Oh yeah, ticket number 2102: https://trac.cakephp.org/ticket/2102 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
Just a short intro, I'm not a Cake user yet (well, I can't even call myself a PHP developer because I mostly work on CSS and ActionScript stuff) but I'm doing my best to learn it although in my current project I'm using CodeIgniter. Anyways, I'm wondering if I could give the team a hand in this matter. I'm pretty confident about my css skills and I think I could use my spare time to help you redesign CakePHP site for free (as in beer :-) ). That's if you guys in the Dev Team are interested; if not, no worries. Lemme know what you think. -- Anggie Bratadinata www.masputih.com I N D O N E S I A nate wrote: We'll get around to fixing the site in IE7 at some point (hopefully soon), but keep in mind that the idea of designing for IE7 is still somewhat of a moving target. But as for your client, I propose an alternative solution: tell them you have chosen a different framework, but then use Cake anyway. If they are dense enough to believe that a server-side framework has any bearing whatsoever on client-side design, they won't know the difference. On Feb 9, 4:54 am, mutabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We have this situation: we are talking to the client about using Cake in his project development. The answer was: I do not think this is reliable framework, just look at their site (IE7). Although we keep on telling him that this fact does not matter, could Cake Dev Team fix layout problems in IE7? I think this will definitely help Cake (and us also :) ) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
Ask your client this: Do you replace your keyboard every time you misspell a word? When he answers of course not, reply back with: well I don't replace my framework every time a page doesn't display correctly in a particular browser! :P NOSLOW --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
Maybe the client shouldn't need to know this in the first place. He/ She probably doesn't have enough knowledge about PHP or frameworks to be in a position to know about this. From my experience, most clients just want things to get done - they don't want to (or don't need to) know how those things are done. I'm guessing most of us want people to know that we are using such a great framework ;) so we want to let everyone else know. But for the purpose and intent of the project, the client need not get involved in the technical details. When they do, they get involved in making uninformed decisions that dictate the project, usually affecting the project's progress negatively. Just my 2 cents worth. Cheeze On Feb 10, 8:59 pm, NOSLOW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask your client this: Do you replace your keyboard every time you misspell a word? When he answers of course not, reply back with: well I don't replace my framework every time a page doesn't display correctly in a particular browser! :P NOSLOW --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
Thank guys for your thoughts. Fortunately I made my client confident in Cake's reliability. Of course for me and for you it does not matter how framework's site looks if this framework really good. I still think that my client's way of thoughts was right for non-IT person : If I do not know anything about a subject - I will ask, if nobody around to answer - the only thing is left - to judge by look and feel. Thanks to God we were around. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
Anggie, If you have an IRC client stop by #cakephp on freenode and look for me in the channel, it is my second home. I will discuss this with you there. If you do not have access to IRC send me a private email. We would appreciate this help, since our main focus is the code and not how some browser displays our site. Anyways, I'm wondering if I could give the team a hand in this matter. I'm pretty confident about my css skills and I think I could use my spare time to help you redesign CakePHP site for free (as in beer :-) ). That's if you guys in the Dev Team are interested; if not, no worries. Lemme know what you think. -- /** * @author Larry E. Masters * @var string $userName * @param string $realName * @returns string aka PhpNut * @access public */ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
Wow. Interesting. I just realised that I've never viewed the CakePHP site in IE until just now, after I read this thread. Cross-browser development will always be a pain. :/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
Hi, We have this situation: we are talking to the client about using Cake in his project development. The answer was: I do not think this is reliable framework, just look at their site (IE7). Although we keep on telling him that this fact does not matter, could Cake Dev Team fix layout problems in IE7? I think this will definitely help Cake (and us also :) ) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
We'll get around to fixing the site in IE7 at some point (hopefully soon), but keep in mind that the idea of designing for IE7 is still somewhat of a moving target. But as for your client, I propose an alternative solution: tell them you have chosen a different framework, but then use Cake anyway. If they are dense enough to believe that a server-side framework has any bearing whatsoever on client-side design, they won't know the difference. On Feb 9, 4:54 am, mutabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We have this situation: we are talking to the client about using Cake in his project development. The answer was: I do not think this is reliable framework, just look at their site (IE7). Although we keep on telling him that this fact does not matter, could Cake Dev Team fix layout problems in IE7? I think this will definitely help Cake (and us also :) ) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Regarding http://cakephp.org page layout
On 2/9/07, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But as for your client, I propose an alternative solution: tell them you have chosen a different framework, but then use Cake anyway. I wouldn't recommend lying to a client. they are dense enough to believe that a server-side framework has any bearing whatsoever on client-side design, they won't know the difference. OTOH I would just dump such a client Cheers Tarique -- = PHP for E-Biz: http://sanisoft.com Cheesecake-Photoblog: http://cheesecake-photoblog.org = --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
