Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Michael Fuerst via Callers]

I would suggest teaching the end of A1 and the beginning of A2 by telling 
dancers to hey, N's starting right shoulder until facing neighbor on other 
side, having them pause at that point.  Then ask dancers  to pass N by right, 
immediately turn right and step towards a next neighbor. 

The dance seems more fun for the men than for the women.

Several of my dances have a similar exit from a hey (email me if you want the 
link to them) and the above instructions work every time.


Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844

Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Perry Shafran via Callers]

Oops - we crossed email paths.  ;)
Perry

  From: Andrea Nettleton 
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Cc: Perry Shafran ; callers  
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:03 PM
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Meh.  I meant gents pass Left in the center.Andrea

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On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
 wrote:




Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor that 
the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't end 
with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in the 
center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and heading 
that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A loop R will 
feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  My point is 
that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to remember to 
flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy R with them.  
If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more easily, but I can 
see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My experience suggests that 
whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of 
curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy, 
unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if you just told the gents to 
pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass 
through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced 
it, and be just right.  My opinion only.
As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  Best,Andrea
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On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran  wrote:


I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey coming 
in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of the hey, 
and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would want to 
differentiate it from the hey.  

Perry
  From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
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Cc: callers  
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
   
Ron et al,In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag 
people at least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to 
gypsy L with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel 
like a pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might 
be worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.Andrea

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On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
 wrote:


Hi callers,I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be 
identified:Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
   1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
   Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
   1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
   P Gypsy + Swing (14)* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy 
or "loop right". I think either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CWThanks,
Ron

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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Perry Shafran via Callers]

Thanks for your perspective.  I guess that since the gents pass was the 4th 
pass in the hey then whatever is best to describe that you pass the N by the 
right shoulder (the gents pass is by the L in the center BTW - that's what GL 
means).  In essence, to me, it FEELS like a continuation of the hey and then 
you pass N right to the next.  I think the easiest is to say, half hey, pass N 
by the right up and down, and on to the next, gypsy and swing the next.
Perry

  From: Andrea Nettleton 
 To: Perry Shafran  
Cc: Ron Blechner ; callers 
 
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
   

Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor that 
the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't end 
with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in the 
center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and heading 
that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A loop R will 
feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  My point is 
that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to remember to 
flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy R with them.  
If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more easily, but I can 
see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My experience suggests that 
whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of 
curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy, 
unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if you just told the gents to 
pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass 
through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced 
it, and be just right.  My opinion only.
As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  Best,Andrea
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On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran  wrote:


I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey coming 
in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of the hey, 
and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would want to 
differentiate it from the hey.  

Perry
  From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
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Cc: callers  
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
   
Ron et al,In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag 
people at least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to 
gypsy L with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel 
like a pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might 
be worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.Andrea

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On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
 wrote:


Hi callers,I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be 
identified:Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
   1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
   Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
   1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
   P Gypsy + Swing (14)* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy 
or "loop right". I think either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CWThanks,
Ron

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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Andrea,

I think the pause after teaching that first half hey is a good idea. I did
try "pass Neighbor by the right" when I workshopped it, but it implies
continuing the hey and it was slightly confusing.

The problem is that you're facing your neighbor in and out of the set at
that point, so passing through implies across, and passing by right implies
the wrong direction.

I could say "pass neighbor one more time. Pause. Loop right to your new
neighbor...". It's pretty much what I said last night when I called it, but
the pause may ensure no more crossing the set.

Ron
On Sep 14, 2015 1:24 PM, "Andrea Nettleton" 
wrote:

> Ron et al,
> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at
> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L
> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a
> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be
> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N,
> pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.
> Andrea
>
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi callers,
>
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I
> think either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Timing wise, both gypsy-swings are 14 beats, with the final pass taking up
the first two beats of the phrase. So no balance is really possible there.
The timing worked well last night, and the real confusion was a couple of
perpetual beginners who took more iterations to get it than others. I think
your teaching suggestion, Andrea, to add a pause, may help that.
On Sep 14, 2015 1:59 PM, "Andrea Nettleton" 
wrote:

>
> Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor
> that the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey
> doesn't end with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents
> pass R in the center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly
> so, and heading that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that
> point.  A loop R will feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for
> the ladies.  My point is that it will take several iterations of the dance
> for dancers to remember to flatten it out as they travel toward the next N
> so they can gypsy R with them.  If you told them to balance and swing, it
> would happen more easily, but I can see that Ron is trying to keep it
> glassy smooth.  My experience suggests that whatever we intend, dancers
> will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of curve, many making it  deep
> enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy, unless the teach
> specifically prevents this.  if you just told the gents to pass L in the
> middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass through to gypsy
> the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced it, and be
> just right.  My opinion only.
>
> As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going
> to cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly,
> just looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.
> Best,
> Andrea
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>
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran  wrote:
>
> I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass
> in the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey
> coming in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part
> of the hey, and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one
> would want to differentiate it from the hey.
>
> Perry
>
> --
> *From:* Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
> *To:* Ron Blechner 
> *Cc:* callers 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
>
> Ron et al,
> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at
> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L
> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a
> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be
> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N,
> pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.
> Andrea
>
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi callers,
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I
> think either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
> Thanks,
> Ron
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Meh.  I meant gents pass Left in the center.
Andrea

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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor 
> that the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't 
> end with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in 
> the center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and 
> heading that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A 
> loop R will feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  
> My point is that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to 
> remember to flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy 
> R with them.  If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more 
> easily, but I can see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My 
> experience suggests that whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" 
> with varying degrees of curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the 
> transition to the R gypsy, unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if 
> you just told the gents to pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, 
> then face the N and pass through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on 
> its own as people danced it, and be just right.  My opinion only.
> 
> As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
> cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
> looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  
> Best,
> Andrea
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran  wrote:
>> 
>> I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
>> the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey 
>> coming in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part 
>> of the hey, and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one 
>> would want to differentiate it from the hey.  
>> 
>> Perry
>> 
>> From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
>> To: Ron Blechner  
>> Cc: callers  
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
>> 
>> Ron et al,
>> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at 
>> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L 
>> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a 
>> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be 
>> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
>> pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.
>> Andrea
>> 
>> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi callers,
>>> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>>> Becket
>>> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>>>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
>>> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>>>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
>>> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>>>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
>>> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>>>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>>> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think 
>>> either works, but ideas welcome.
>>> ** Gents in front, CW
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ron
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance exist? / Beginner dances with chain, without star-L prog

[Yoyo Zhou via Callers]

HI Maia,

When doing a ladies chain for the first time, I prefer to call a chain
to neighbor, rather than partner, so that new dancers get an
opportunity to practice courtesy turns with lots of different people
(we've all seen the new couples who can't remember which are the
counterclockwise vs. clockwise turns).

(Of course you can't win 'em all, like new dancers who show up halfway
through the dance.)

Many of Linda's suggestions feature chains to neighbor. Some of my
favorite easy dances with such chains are:

Forgotten Treasure
Beth Parkes
A1: N balance, swing
A2: down the hall, turn as couples
B1: circle left 3/4, P swing
B2: long lines forward and back, ladies chain

Although this has the ladies chain -> next N balance transition which
can even be not easy for experienced dancers, it's generous with
recovery time.

???
Susan Petrick?
A1: N balance, swing
A2: gents allemande left 1+1/2, P swing
B1: long lines forward and back, ladies chain
B2: balance ring, roll away P lady across; balance ring, roll away N
lady up/down

I collected this from Susan Petrick who calls it Missing You, but
she's not sure where she may have got it from. Note how similar it is
to Lavender and Lilac / The Missing Piece.

Made Up Tonight (Which is No Longer True)
Erik Hoffman

A1: N balance, swing
A2: ladies chain over and back
B1: circle left 3/4, P swing
B2: circle left 3/4, balance ring, 2s arch and 1s dive through

And there's Trip to Lambertville by Steve Zakon-Anderson, which can be
made easier with a B1/B2 variation that's apparently common:

A1: ladies walk to long wave, balance; gents walk to long wave, balance
A2: gents allemande left 1/2, balance wave; N swing
B1: circle left 3/4; P swing
B2: long lines forward and back; ladies chain

Yoyo Zhou

Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor that 
the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't end 
with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in the 
center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and heading 
that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A loop R will 
feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  My point is 
that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to remember to 
flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy R with them.  
If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more easily, but I can 
see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My experience suggests that 
whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of 
curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy, 
unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if you just told the gents to 
pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass 
through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced 
it, and be just right.  My opinion only.

As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  
Best,
Andrea
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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran  wrote:
> 
> I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
> the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey 
> coming in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of 
> the hey, and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would 
> want to differentiate it from the hey.  
> 
> Perry
> 
> From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
> To: Ron Blechner  
> Cc: callers  
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
> 
> Ron et al,
> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at 
> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L 
> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a 
> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be 
> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, pass 
> through R Sh .  Just a thought.
> Andrea
> 
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi callers,
>> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>> Becket
>> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
>> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
>> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
>> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think 
>> either works, but ideas welcome.
>> ** Gents in front, CW
>> Thanks,
>> Ron
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Perry Shafran via Callers]

I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey coming 
in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of the hey, 
and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would want to 
differentiate it from the hey.  

Perry
  From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
 To: Ron Blechner  
Cc: callers  
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
   
Ron et al,In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag 
people at least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to 
gypsy L with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel 
like a pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might 
be worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.Andrea

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On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
 wrote:


Hi callers,I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be 
identified:Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
   1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
   Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
   1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
   P Gypsy + Swing (14)* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy 
or "loop right". I think either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CWThanks,
Ron

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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Well that was weird!  Not sure why my last email came through empty. Trying 
again.  
Ron et al,
In general I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at least 
a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L with the 
next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a pass through 
so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be worth pointing 
that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, pass through.  Just a 
thought.
Andrea

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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi callers,
> 
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
> 
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
> 
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think 
> either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
> 
> Thanks,
> Ron
> 
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Perry replied privately, and I agree with his assessment of the gypsy for
top of the A2 to make a lot of sense:

"I think "loop right" would be better than a "gypsy".  People who gypsy
tend to linger when your real goal is to get to the next neighbor and
swing."
On Sep 14, 2015 12:05 PM, "Ron Blechner"  wrote:

> Hi callers,
>
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I
> think either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>

[Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Hi callers,

I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:

Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
   1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
   Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
   1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
   P Gypsy + Swing (14)

* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think
either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CW

Thanks,
Ron

Re: [Callers] Does this dance exist? / Beginner dances with chain, without star-L prog

[Bree Kalb via Callers]

I have been calling this dance for years with the title Foxglove and the author 
Tom Thoreau. 

From: frannie via Callers 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:39 PM
To: Maia McCormick 
Cc: callers@lists.sharedweight.net 
Subject: Re: [Callers] Does this dance exist? / Beginner dances with chain, 
without star-L prog

That dance is almost Push the Button "by" Rick Mohr except it has Ladies Do si 
do instead of Allemande.  There's also Small Potatoes by Jim Kitch. 

~Frannie

On Sep 13, 2015 10:30 AM, "Maia McCormick via Callers" 
 wrote:

  Wanted a beginners' dance with a chain but without a star-L progression. 
Jotted down this one. I find it quite likely that someone has written it 
before: 

  [untitled], imp.
  A1: N b
  A2: long lines forward & back
  ladies chain
  B1: ladies alle. R 1x
  P swing
  B2: circle L 3/4
  bal. ring and pass through

  So a) has this been written? And b) can folks recommend already-written 
dances that meet my criteria?

  Cheers,
  Maia

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