Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

For those interested, the closest I've seen it resembles is To Live is To
Dance by Jim Kitch, which is basically:
Ladies Chain
1/2 Hey, loop L to next
Next N B+S
Circle L 3/4, P rollaway
Gents start 1/2 Hey
P gypsy swing

... which is a fun dance, as well.

The dance I listed is similar with 2 heys and 2 swings, but a gents-focused
version but with a mad Robin instead of a circle - rollaway.

I've titled mine Leaf on the Wind, seeing nothing closer.
On Sep 14, 2015 12:05 PM, "Ron Blechner"  wrote:

> Hi callers,
>
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I
> think either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>

Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Michael Fuerst via Callers]

I would suggest teaching the end of A1 and the beginning of A2 by telling 
dancers to hey, N's starting right shoulder until facing neighbor on other 
side, having them pause at that point.  Then ask dancers  to pass N by right, 
immediately turn right and step towards a next neighbor. 

The dance seems more fun for the men than for the women.

Several of my dances have a similar exit from a hey (email me if you want the 
link to them) and the above instructions work every time.


Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844

Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Perry Shafran via Callers]

Oops - we crossed email paths.  ;)
Perry

  From: Andrea Nettleton <twirly-g...@bellsouth.net>
 To: Andrea Nettleton <twirly-g...@bellsouth.net> 
Cc: Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com>; callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> 
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Meh.  I meant gents pass Left in the center.Andrea

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On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:




Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor that 
the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't end 
with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in the 
center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and heading 
that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A loop R will 
feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  My point is 
that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to remember to 
flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy R with them.  
If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more easily, but I can 
see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My experience suggests that 
whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of 
curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy, 
unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if you just told the gents to 
pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass 
through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced 
it, and be just right.  My opinion only.
As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  Best,Andrea
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On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> wrote:


I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey coming 
in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of the hey, 
and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would want to 
differentiate it from the hey.  

Perry
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Cc: callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> 
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
   
Ron et al,In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag 
people at least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to 
gypsy L with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel 
like a pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might 
be worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.Andrea

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On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:


Hi callers,I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be 
identified:Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
   1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
   Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
   1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
   P Gypsy + Swing (14)* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy 
or "loop right". I think either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CWThanks,
Ron

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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Perry Shafran via Callers]

Thanks for your perspective.  I guess that since the gents pass was the 4th 
pass in the hey then whatever is best to describe that you pass the N by the 
right shoulder (the gents pass is by the L in the center BTW - that's what GL 
means).  In essence, to me, it FEELS like a continuation of the hey and then 
you pass N right to the next.  I think the easiest is to say, half hey, pass N 
by the right up and down, and on to the next, gypsy and swing the next.
Perry

  From: Andrea Nettleton <twirly-g...@bellsouth.net>
 To: Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com>; callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> 
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
   

Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor that 
the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't end 
with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in the 
center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and heading 
that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A loop R will 
feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  My point is 
that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to remember to 
flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy R with them.  
If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more easily, but I can 
see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My experience suggests that 
whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of 
curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy, 
unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if you just told the gents to 
pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass 
through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced 
it, and be just right.  My opinion only.
As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  Best,Andrea
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On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> wrote:


I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey coming 
in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of the hey, 
and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would want to 
differentiate it from the hey.  

Perry
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 To: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com> 
Cc: callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> 
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
   
Ron et al,In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag 
people at least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to 
gypsy L with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel 
like a pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might 
be worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.Andrea

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On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:


Hi callers,I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be 
identified:Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
   1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
   Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
   1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
   P Gypsy + Swing (14)* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy 
or "loop right". I think either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CWThanks,
Ron

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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Andrea,

I think the pause after teaching that first half hey is a good idea. I did
try "pass Neighbor by the right" when I workshopped it, but it implies
continuing the hey and it was slightly confusing.

The problem is that you're facing your neighbor in and out of the set at
that point, so passing through implies across, and passing by right implies
the wrong direction.

I could say "pass neighbor one more time. Pause. Loop right to your new
neighbor...". It's pretty much what I said last night when I called it, but
the pause may ensure no more crossing the set.

Ron
On Sep 14, 2015 1:24 PM, "Andrea Nettleton" 
wrote:

> Ron et al,
> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at
> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L
> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a
> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be
> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N,
> pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.
> Andrea
>
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi callers,
>
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I
> think either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Timing wise, both gypsy-swings are 14 beats, with the final pass taking up
the first two beats of the phrase. So no balance is really possible there.
The timing worked well last night, and the real confusion was a couple of
perpetual beginners who took more iterations to get it than others. I think
your teaching suggestion, Andrea, to add a pause, may help that.
On Sep 14, 2015 1:59 PM, "Andrea Nettleton" <twirly-g...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>
> Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor
> that the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey
> doesn't end with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents
> pass R in the center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly
> so, and heading that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that
> point.  A loop R will feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for
> the ladies.  My point is that it will take several iterations of the dance
> for dancers to remember to flatten it out as they travel toward the next N
> so they can gypsy R with them.  If you told them to balance and swing, it
> would happen more easily, but I can see that Ron is trying to keep it
> glassy smooth.  My experience suggests that whatever we intend, dancers
> will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of curve, many making it  deep
> enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy, unless the teach
> specifically prevents this.  if you just told the gents to pass L in the
> middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass through to gypsy
> the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced it, and be
> just right.  My opinion only.
>
> As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going
> to cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly,
> just looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.
> Best,
> Andrea
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass
> in the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey
> coming in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part
> of the hey, and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one
> would want to differentiate it from the hey.
>
> Perry
>
> --
> *From:* Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
> *To:* Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
>
> Ron et al,
> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at
> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L
> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a
> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be
> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N,
> pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.
> Andrea
>
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi callers,
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I
> think either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
> Thanks,
> Ron
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Meh.  I meant gents pass Left in the center.
Andrea

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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor 
> that the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't 
> end with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in 
> the center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and 
> heading that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A 
> loop R will feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  
> My point is that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to 
> remember to flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy 
> R with them.  If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more 
> easily, but I can see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My 
> experience suggests that whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" 
> with varying degrees of curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the 
> transition to the R gypsy, unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if 
> you just told the gents to pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, 
> then face the N and pass through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on 
> its own as people danced it, and be just right.  My opinion only.
> 
> As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
> cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
> looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  
> Best,
> Andrea
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
>> the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey 
>> coming in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part 
>> of the hey, and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one 
>> would want to differentiate it from the hey.  
>> 
>> Perry
>> 
>> From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
>> To: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com> 
>> Cc: callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> 
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
>> 
>> Ron et al,
>> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at 
>> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L 
>> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a 
>> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be 
>> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
>> pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.
>> Andrea
>> 
>> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
>>> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi callers,
>>> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>>> Becket
>>> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>>>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
>>> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>>>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
>>> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>>>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
>>> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>>>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>>> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think 
>>> either works, but ideas welcome.
>>> ** Gents in front, CW
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ron
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor that 
the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't end 
with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in the 
center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and heading 
that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A loop R will 
feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  My point is 
that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to remember to 
flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy R with them.  
If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more easily, but I can 
see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My experience suggests that 
whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of 
curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy, 
unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if you just told the gents to 
pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass 
through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced 
it, and be just right.  My opinion only.

As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  
Best,
Andrea
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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
> the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey 
> coming in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of 
> the hey, and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would 
> want to differentiate it from the hey.  
> 
> Perry
> 
> From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
> To: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com> 
> Cc: callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> 
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
> 
> Ron et al,
> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at 
> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L 
> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a 
> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be 
> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, pass 
> through R Sh .  Just a thought.
> Andrea
> 
> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
>> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi callers,
>> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>> Becket
>> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
>> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
>> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
>> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think 
>> either works, but ideas welcome.
>> ** Gents in front, CW
>> Thanks,
>> Ron
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Perry Shafran via Callers]

I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey coming 
in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of the hey, 
and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would want to 
differentiate it from the hey.  

Perry
  From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
 To: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com> 
Cc: callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> 
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
   
Ron et al,In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag 
people at least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to 
gypsy L with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel 
like a pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might 
be worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.Andrea

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On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:


Hi callers,I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be 
identified:Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
   1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
   Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
   1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
   P Gypsy + Swing (14)* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy 
or "loop right". I think either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CWThanks,
Ron

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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Well that was weird!  Not sure why my last email came through empty. Trying 
again.  
Ron et al,
In general I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at least 
a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L with the 
next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a pass through 
so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be worth pointing 
that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, pass through.  Just a 
thought.
Andrea

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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi callers,
> 
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
> 
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
> 
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think 
> either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
> 
> Thanks,
> Ron
> 
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Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Perry replied privately, and I agree with his assessment of the gypsy for
top of the A2 to make a lot of sense:

"I think "loop right" would be better than a "gypsy".  People who gypsy
tend to linger when your real goal is to get to the next neighbor and
swing."
On Sep 14, 2015 12:05 PM, "Ron Blechner"  wrote:

> Hi callers,
>
> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>
> Becket
> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>
> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I
> think either works, but ideas welcome.
> ** Gents in front, CW
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>

[Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Hi callers,

I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:

Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
   1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
   Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
   1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
   P Gypsy + Swing (14)

* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think
either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CW

Thanks,
Ron