Re: [Callers] Cherokee Shuffle....
-Original Message- Richard Allen Fischer wrote: Subject: Re: [Callers] Cherokee Shuffle >David Kaynor has another version that I use, just different in the >A1. The A parts are standard, I'll try to show the timing for the B >parts. > >Cherokee Shuffle David Kaynor Improper Contra 10-measure B parts >tune: Cherokee Shuffle > >A1 Dosido Neighbor, Circle L 1x >A2 Balance the ring, swing Neighbor >B1 Men allemande L 1/2 (4) >Balance the wave (4) >Swing Partner (12) >B2 Circle L 3/4 (8) >Balance the ring two times (8) >California twirl to face new Neighbors That's it! That's the crooked version I've danced. The wave balance in the B1 is what was missing to make it fit the crooked tune, at least in my mind. The straight version I call is very similar to this but makes the Partner Swing in the B2 a standard 8 count, and has only one Balance the Ring in the B2. >It's a great dance! Fine for beginners, with a twist in the timing >for experienced dancers. (They're the ones who need to be told "Keep >swinging!" in B1 as the swing may feel too long to people used to 32- >measure tunes and dances.) Very true about needing to be told to keep swinging. I personally remember needing that prompt when I danced it! Thanks Richard. Bev
Re: [Callers] Cherokee Shuffle
FYI to all, there is a beautiful recording of Cherokee Shuffle by Bruce Ling here http://www.hawksandowls.com/Tunes/Cherokee_shuffle/Cherokee_shuffle_page.htm (This version is actually in three parts, AA BB CC) Just had a crazy thought, the neighbor do-si-do could be done as a couple-do-si-do, a la Don Flaherty's Slapping The Wood Coming out of the California twirl and forward-and-back, and going into the circle, this would maintain the connection with your partner Mark Widmer List-Post: callers@lists.sharedweight.net Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:06:03 -0400 From: "The Witful Turnip" Subject: [Callers] Cherokee Shuffle To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ... David's notation for the dance Cherokee Shuffle Improper A1: (facing up and down set) w/Ns, F & B; w/N, dos-a-dos; form circle A2: Bal. Circle; W/N, swing, end progressed B1: Gs LH turn 1/2; W/P, bal. & swing (12 beats) B2: Circle L 3/4; Circle Bal. 2x; W/P, California Twirl to swap places, face new Ns The B1 seems a little odd to me because the Gs LH turn 1/2 won't fill 8 beats/counts. I say that's a 4 beat/count figure at best. So 4 +12 = 16 when it should be 20, shouldn't it?? And that's assuming he mean the notation of (12 beats) to refer specifically to the balance and swing, which could be wrong on my part. I don't remember what this should feel like when danced. I guess there's a reason why I never call the crooked version...! I'd be interested in any analysis. And like David, I'm curious about the tune the band has in mind. Thanks, Bev ps -- Looks like he meant that the swing is 12 beats NOT counting the balance, so as Richard Fischer said it's 4+4+12=20 (allemande + balance + swing)
Re: [Callers] Cherokee Shuffle....
Hi Bev, David Kaynor has another version that I use, just different in the A1. The A parts are standard, I'll try to show the timing for the B parts. Cherokee Shuffle David Kaynor Improper Contra 10-measure B parts tune: Cherokee Shuffle A1 Dosido Neighbor, Circle L 1x A2 Balance the ring, swing Neighbor B1 Men allemande L 1/2 (4) Balance the wave (4) Swing Partner (12) B2 Circle L 3/4 (8) Balance the ring two times (8) California twirl to face new Neighbors It's a great dance! Fine for beginners, with a twist in the timing for experienced dancers. (They're the ones who need to be told "Keep swinging!" in B1 as the swing may feel too long to people used to 32- measure tunes and dances.) Richard On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, The Witful Turnip wrote: Re: 40 bar dances (comments by Chris and David...) I shouldn't even type this but since I've currently got some time on my hands... I began to wonder about this version of Cherokee Shuffle. I haven't ever called it but I'm fairly sure I've danced David's original crooked version (I call the straight version all the time). When I listen to the YouTube link David provided (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s8Mmc69CP8) I count it like so: A1: 8, 8 A2: 8, 8 B1: 8, 12 B2: 8, 12 Mind you, that's before they start riffing all over the place and I can't quite hear the phrasing. But I'm not hearing both phrases in both B's having 12 beats/counts (let's not get started on that discussion again...!). I'm only hearing the second phrase in each B as having 12. Is it my imagination? And I see that as a little different than what Chris might be looking for, unless I'm misunderstanding his notation of "(AA=8+8 plus BB=12 +12)" because that suggests to me that he needs all 4 of the B phrases to be 12. Is that what you meant Chris? When I look at David's notation for the dance Cherokee Shuffle Improper A1: (facing up and down set) w/Ns, F & B; w/N, dos-a-dos; form circle A2: Bal. Circle; W/N, swing, end progressed B1: Gs LH turn 1/2; W/P, bal. & swing (12 beats) B2: Circle L 3/4; Circle Bal. 2x; W/P, California Twirl to swap places, face new Ns The B1 seems a little odd to me because the Gs LH turn 1/2 won't fill 8 beats/counts. I say that's a 4 beat/count figure at best. So 4 +12 = 16 when it should be 20, shouldn't it?? And that's assuming he mean the notation of (12 beats) to refer specifically to the balance and swing, which could be wrong on my part. I don't remember what this should feel like when danced. I guess there's a reason why I never call the crooked version...! I'd be interested in any analysis. And like David, I'm curious about the tune the band has in mind. Thanks, Bev ___ Callers mailing list call...@sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
Re: [Callers] Cherokee Shuffle....
I goofed. The Cherokee Shuffle tune in the B part is 10 bars long, as several have noted, not the 12 bars that Chris was looking for. David "wiping the egg off my face" Millstone
