RE: CAMBODIAN PEOPLE : World Bank knows more : SEX INDUSTRY
you live with? elicited blank stares. (She replied yes to the latter.) But one question was instantly recognized: How much? The answer: For a massage and boom boom, $5 for an hour and $20 for the night. My two Cambodian friends also took me to a karaoke bar whose customers were mostly Chinese and other Asian tourists. More than 100 women, some in short skirts and some in prom dresses with flowers in their hair, sat on couches lined up on both sides of the entryway. We took a room in back and asked for four women to join us. They soon arrived with trays bearing bowls of nuts and snacks; plates of grapefruit, grapes, and mangos; and bottles of warm beer served in glasses with ice. They sang along to videos, mostly Chinese and Cambodian pop. One of the women, a 19-year-old whose education stopped at the fourth grade, wore a pink prom dress and barrettes in her long hair. She was paid $60 a month and made about the same amount per week in tips. She didn't sleep with customers, but colleagues who did could make $100 a night or even more if the client was rich. She had an older brother who made $45 per month as a security guard, and an older sister who worked at a textile plant. My mother doesn't like me working here, so I might have to leave, but I wouldn't work with my sister, she said. The chemicals smell, her boss is always yelling, and she doesn't make much money. Advertisement So how does pay for factory work compare with pay for sex work? Apparel jobs in Cambodia are not an escalator out of poverty, as Kristof would have it; they're a treadmill at best. Textile workers earn about 33 cents per hour, lower than anywhere except Bangladesh. Even with significant overtime, monthly pay rarely tops $80. They commute in, sometimes from villages hours away, or live four and five to a room in shanties outside the factory gates. A study by two International Labor Organization specialists said that apparel workers were rarely able to save any money, and few had the opportunity to advance their career, either in the garment industry or outside. Apparel workers are on their feet all day, other than for a short lunch break, and they work such long hours that they see little sunlight. The plants are hot and noisy, with the steady drone of the machines making conversation impossible. They are subject to strict workplace rules (i.e., asking permission to go to the bathroom), are pressured to meet high quotas, and, despite Cambodia's sweatshop-free reputation, growing numbers work on short-term contracts that deprive them of basic labor rights. Hostesses also work long hours—typically late afternoon until 2 a.m.—but they usually eat at least one meal at work, hang out with friends, and watch television when business is slow. Some but by no means all of the hostesses whom I spoke with had sex with customers, and they were free to decline offers (though accepting clearly increases pay). I'm not touting sex work as an attractive profession. HIV is an obvious risk, and prostitutes are subject to violence by customers, police, and at rehabilitation centers. Most of the women I met ordered juice when they were with me, but some drink either at their own initiative or the insistence of customers. Sex work is just as much of a dead-end job as apparel work; when women get older, they either find something else to do or move from clubs and bars to the street. Still, 20 percent of Cambodian sex workers interviewed for the 2009 U.N. report said they took their jobs because of good working conditions or relatively high pay. (Fifty-five percent did so due to difficult family circumstances. About 3.5 percent were lured, cheated, or sold into sex work.) Are sex workers exploited? Absolutely. But so are textile workers. When I was in Cambodia in 2009 to report on the apparel industry, I obtained the company profile of a firm that produced T-shirts, trousers, and skirts for companies like Aeropostale and JCPenney. It said the plant's 1,000 workers produced 7.8 million pieces annually. Taking a rough estimate of $25 per piece retail, each employee generated approximately $195,000 in retail sales annually, for which she received about $750 in pay, factoring in typical overtime rates. A lot of women no longer want apparel jobs, Tola Moeun, a labor-rights activist with a group called the Community Legal Education Center, told me. When prostitution offers a better life, our factory owners need to think about more than their profit margins. Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:48:34 -0700 Subject: Re: CAMBODIAN PEOPLE : World Bank knows more From: phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Ong Ya Bury Chau, Yeah Yeah I believe the World Bank knows Cambodia and the Cambodian culture more than the small people here in CamDisc. Of course it must have investigated the country thoroughly before it invested as much money as 600 million bucks in the country
Re: CAMBODIAN PEOPLE : World Bank knows more
Ong Ya Bury Chau, Yeah Yeah I believe the World Bank knows Cambodia and the Cambodian culture more than the small people here in CamDisc. Of course it must have investigated the country thoroughly before it invested as much money as 600 million bucks in the country. The verb invested here always applies whether the money was a loan or a donation or a partial-loan-partial-donation. When Cambodia gets out of poverty and becomes rich enough, she will hopefully contribute back to the world Bank, or help to establish or maintain the stability of the region of South-East Asia, or both. Therefore the World Bank's money was an investment. On May 14, 11:07 am, Bury Chau chaub...@hotmail.com wrote: World Bank has 600 million dollars to help the country.Mr phengkimvi...@gmail.com,If the Cambodian at camdisc does not know their country , do you believe the World Bank know more than the camdisc people here ? Cambodian Documentary Video: World Bank Report on Cambodia Thursday, September 20, 2007 World Bank Report on Cambodia Provided By: WorldBank Cambodia is emerging from decades of civil war and isolation. Helped by international programs aimed at reducing poverty, international donors this year alone have more than 600 million dollars to help the country. The World Bank coordinates much of Cambodia's aid plan. By focusing on empowering the poorest people and working with the government, private sector and civil society, assistance efforts are beginning to yield results Labels: World Bank would you like to share the view with us here ? Bury From: chaub...@hotmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: CAMBODIAN PEOPLE Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 07:50:06 -0700 Q : Thus the word Cambodia should have been CamDisc. These small peolpe don't live in Cambodia. They live overseas and know nothing about Cambodia or the Cambodian culture. A : I agree. These four know more Cambodia and Cambodian culture than CamDisc.Cambodia Tycoons - Kith Meng Sok Kong Yeay Phu Mong Reththy do you agree Mr .phengkimvi...@gmail.com ? Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 02:33:17 -0700 Subject: Re: CAMBODIAN PEOPLE From: phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Good observation. Now I believe this observation is made here in CamDisc. Thus the word Cambodia should have been CamDisc. These small peolpe don't live in Cambodia. They live overseas and know nothing about Cambodia or the Cambodian culture. On May 13, 6:20 pm, Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com wrote: Great people talk about idea Average people talk about issue Small people talk about other people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
RE: CAMBODIAN PEOPLE : World Bank knows more
World Bank has 600 million dollars to help the country.Mr phengkimvi...@gmail.com,If the Cambodian at camdisc does not know their country , do you believe the World Bank know more than the camdisc people here ? Cambodian Documentary Video: World Bank Report on Cambodia Thursday, September 20, 2007 World Bank Report on Cambodia Provided By: WorldBank Cambodia is emerging from decades of civil war and isolation. Helped by international programs aimed at reducing poverty, international donors this year alone have more than 600 million dollars to help the country. The World Bank coordinates much of Cambodia's aid plan. By focusing on empowering the poorest people and working with the government, private sector and civil society, assistance efforts are beginning to yield results Labels: World Bank would you like to share the view with us here ? Bury From: chaub...@hotmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: CAMBODIAN PEOPLE Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 07:50:06 -0700 Q : Thus the word Cambodia should have been CamDisc. These small peolpe don't live in Cambodia. They live overseas and know nothing about Cambodia or the Cambodian culture. A : I agree. These four know more Cambodia and Cambodian culture than CamDisc.Cambodia Tycoons - Kith Meng Sok Kong Yeay Phu Mong Reththy do you agree Mr .phengkimvi...@gmail.com ? Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 02:33:17 -0700 Subject: Re: CAMBODIAN PEOPLE From: phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Good observation. Now I believe this observation is made here in CamDisc. Thus the word Cambodia should have been CamDisc. These small peolpe don't live in Cambodia. They live overseas and know nothing about Cambodia or the Cambodian culture. On May 13, 6:20 pm, Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com wrote: Great people talk about idea Average people talk about issue Small people talk about other people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
