Re: [Catalyst] Mason + DBI + Catalyst?
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 03:23:29PM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote: Ok, I will correct it (because I remember at least an error in it), test it and put it in a wiki. Can anyone recommend a good place for a thing like this? I'm not really very sure. How about a page linked off the 'faq' under a question of Why do you want me to use an ORM? ORMs are evil! or something? Not perfect but then it's there and somebody can move it later :) -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Multiple instances of same app with 5.80 under mod_perl
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:49:45AM -0500, Stephen Clouse wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Stephen Clouse stephenclo...@gmail.comwrote: Commenting that out, then theoretically (note that this is totally untested at the moment, but I intend to tomorrow): Well, it was worth a try, but obviously too much voodoo. Catalyst complains about not being able to find //_DISPATCH. Something internal gets fried with the delayed setup call. This, on the other hand, works perfectly, although less memory-efficient -- one full compile of Catalyst per vhost. Even so, this should be a win over the traditional FastCGI deployment (since the optree will at least still be shared within the vhost interpreter pool). I doubt it. FastCGI isn't traditional for Catalyst - it's what people switched to because mod_perl almost never has a better memory/performance profile. Especially since most of the mod_perl cleverness relies on interpreter cloning, which unshares a huge amount of stuff that -can- be shared across a fork. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Lighttpd and mod_perlite
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 09:19:32PM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote: Just wondering what kind of experience folks in the catalyst community have had using lighttpd/mod_perlite as replacements for the more widely accepted apache/mod_perl stack. While apache might be better in being proven technology and mod_perl being better documented, I'm still looking for lightweight and scalable options. Shadowcat's clients tend to end up on $webserver + FastCGI or $proxy + Prefork depending on their requirements. mod_perl is more 'legacy' than 'accepted' to people using practices from this century. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Best practice: How to build app parts reusable?
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 06:06:48PM +0200, Matthias Dietrich wrote: Hi, in one of my Catalyst apps I'm building application parts that I want to reuse in other Catalyst apps where possible. What's the best practice to do that? I mean the complete parts from controller, to model, DBIC schema classes and templates. Let's assume one part is a guestbook (no, it's not but it's a funny example ;)). The integration of the controller class is very easy. I just would build a new controller inside the app which uses the guestbook controller as base class and sets the correct namespace, where the guestbook should appear. A similar procedure would get me the model and schemes into my app, but it requires a wrapper class for each class the guestbook brings with. And the templates? The only way I know of is to copy and paste them into the 'root' folder of the app. There has to be a better way. But which? Just have your controller base class set: $c-stash(additional_template_paths = $self-template_paths); in a begin or auto or whatever action. See Catalyst::Plugin::AutoCRUD for injecting extra components into the various areas during application setup. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Action attributes
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 02:35:53PM +1100, Илья wrote: Hi there, we use Catalyst about year and one thing make a lot of pain. When you make typo in action attribute name Catalyst silently eat it. For example: sub foo : Loacal Arg(1) { } will be work, but Arg(1) just do nothing. Now we use few additional attributes and I add trivial check in Our::Catalyst::Action: my @correct_names = qw Path Private Global Local Regex LocalRexgex Args Chained CaptureArgs PathPart Method Secure UnSecure RestrictTo Crumb Test ; foreach my $name (keys %$attrs) { unless ( first { $name eq $_ } @correct_names ) { die Wrong trait (attribute) $name!; } } so it is work for us, but mb better to add something like this in Catalyst itself? I can make patch if this helps. A patch that let you do something like __PACKAGE__-config( Dispatcher = { action_attributes = { allow = \...@list } } ); in MyApp.pm (preferably with the built in ones already in the list) to turn on strict checking would seem fine to me. Then the dispatcher could check the actions when each one is registered with it. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Re: Lighttpd and mod_perlite
* Matt S Trout dbix-cl...@trout.me.uk [2009-06-08 21:00]: Shadowcat's clients tend to end up on $webserver + FastCGI or $proxy + Prefork depending on their requirements. What sort of requirements does FastCGI cover better in your experience? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: Lighttpd and mod_perlite
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 11:09:24PM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: What sort of requirements does FastCGI cover better in your experience? I don't know what Matt has in mind, but doing zero-downtime restarts with FastCGI over a unix socket is pretty easy because of filesystem semantics. hdp. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] [Announce] App::ForExample: Helper to generate Catalyst configurations
Last Tuesday, during a SFPUG Catalyst talk, I announced App::ForExample http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?App::ForExample http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-ForExample This is the tool I've written to help with the deployment stage of publishing a Catalyst application. It will generate configurations for Apache, lighttpd, nginx: App::ForExample is a command-line tool for generating sample configurations. It is not designed to do configuration management, but rather as a guide to get you 80% of the way there Besides the usual Apache, lighttpd, nginx, and FastCGI configurations, App::ForExample can create a FastCGI start-stop script and a monit configuration for monitoring those processes Here is some typical usage: # To output a FastCGI (ExternalServer)/Apache configuration (with monit stub and start-stop script), run: for-example catalyst/fastcgi apache2 standalone --package My::App --hostname example.com --output my-app # The above command would have created the following: my-app.apache2 The Apache2 virtual host configuration (hosted at (www.)example.com) my-app.start-stop The start/stop script to launch the FastCGI process my-app.monitA monit stub used for monitoring the FastCGI process # This will generate a basic, stripped-down monit configuration (monitrc) suitable for a non-root user: for-example monit --home $HOME/monit --output $HOME/monit/monitrc # A mod_perl configuration for Catalyst: for-example catalyst/mod_perl --package Project::Xyzzy --hostname xyzzy.com --home Project-Xyzzy A tutorial for Apache2 with FastCGI on Ubuntu: http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?App::ForExample#Apache2_with_FastCGI_on_Ubuntu You can install App::ForExample by using CPAN: cpan -i App::ForExample If that doesn't work properly, you can find help at: http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/ http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/macosx/ # Help on Mac OS X http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/non-root/ # Help with a non-root account The source repository is: http://github.com/robertkrimen/App-ForExample/tree/master Rob ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] [Announce] App::ForExample: Helper to generate Catalyst configurations
you++. I was just thinking about something like this as a hmmm i don't feel like thinking, i want catalyst to do that for me. On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Robert Krimen robertkri...@gmail.comwrote: Last Tuesday, during a SFPUG Catalyst talk, I announced App::ForExample http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?App::ForExample http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-ForExample This is the tool I've written to help with the deployment stage of publishing a Catalyst application. It will generate configurations for Apache, lighttpd, nginx: App::ForExample is a command-line tool for generating sample configurations. It is not designed to do configuration management, but rather as a guide to get you 80% of the way there Besides the usual Apache, lighttpd, nginx, and FastCGI configurations, App::ForExample can create a FastCGI start-stop script and a monit configuration for monitoring those processes Here is some typical usage: # To output a FastCGI (ExternalServer)/Apache configuration (with monit stub and start-stop script), run: for-example catalyst/fastcgi apache2 standalone --package My::App --hostname example.com --output my-app # The above command would have created the following: my-app.apache2 The Apache2 virtual host configuration (hosted at (www.)example.com) my-app.start-stop The start/stop script to launch the FastCGI process my-app.monitA monit stub used for monitoring the FastCGI process # This will generate a basic, stripped-down monit configuration (monitrc) suitable for a non-root user: for-example monit --home $HOME/monit --output $HOME/monit/monitrc # A mod_perl configuration for Catalyst: for-example catalyst/mod_perl --package Project::Xyzzy --hostname xyzzy.com --home Project-Xyzzy A tutorial for Apache2 with FastCGI on Ubuntu: http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?App::ForExample#Apache2_with_FastCGI_on_Ubuntu You can install App::ForExample by using CPAN: cpan -i App::ForExample If that doesn't work properly, you can find help at: http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/ http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/macosx/ # Help on Mac OS X http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/non-root/ # Help with a non-root account The source repository is: http://github.com/robertkrimen/App-ForExample/tree/master Rob ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- Devin Austin http://www.codedright.net http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?326568/hosting.html - Host with DreamHost! ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Lighttpd and mod_perlite
If you can, please suggest some links for reference.:) thanks Regards, Gordon Yeong 2009/6/1 Nigel Metheringham nigel.methering...@dev.intechnology.co.uk However, I, and many others, are using lighttpd with fastcgi with great success - there are a number of articles on this including a few advent calendar ones. Nigel. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] [Announce] App::ForExample: Helper to generate Catalyst configurations
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Robert Krimenrobertkri...@gmail.com wrote: Last Tuesday, during a SFPUG Catalyst talk, I announced App::ForExample Excellent, Rob! Reduces the barriers to dipping a toe into the Catalyst waters - well worth it. - Chris ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] catalyst.pl-generated installer installs MyApp/root in same dir as MyApp/lib/*?
The Module::Install code generated by catalyst.pl puts MyApp/root into blib/lib/MyApp/root, right alongside all the things from MyApp/lib. Is this actually the Right Thing to do? Seems fishy to put the templates and images and such in the same place as the perl modules. In the pod for File::ShareDir (which I perused after reading on dhoss's blog about where he's thinking of putting the helper templates), I read that static data for modules are supposed to go in the module's 'auto' directory. Link: http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/File-ShareDir-1.00/lib/File/ShareDir.pm So, if I understand rightly, shouldn't the MyApp/root be going into blib/auto/MyApp/root instead of blib/MyApp/root ? Rob ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/