Re: [cayugabirds-l] S-b Dowitcher, Black-bellied Plovers - MNWR Sunday
It is very interesting that shorebirds are already showing up again and it is late June. Failed breeders? or did they just halt their northward migration for some reason (lack of fat reserves?) and will stage before continuing south again? Could they be very late spring migrants (younger birds that won't breed)? It seems hard to believe these birds would have made it to the arctic, failed at breeding and had enough energy to make it all the way back down here by the end of June. Since I am not an ornithologist these are mere speculations on my part. Anyone have a more definitive idea on this? or know of research studies on this? just really curious. thanks. Dave Nicosia From: tigge...@aol.com tigge...@aol.com To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 9:34:00 PM Subject: [cayugabirds-l] S-b Dowitcher, Black-bellied Plovers - MNWR Sunday Sunday highlights from Knox-Marsellus marsh included a Short-billed Dowitcher and influx of Lesser Yellowlegs, plus the continuing Dunlin. Two Black-bellied Plover were at Puddler's marsh. No peeps on either Saturday or Sunday. Saturday night on Van Dyne Spoor Rd found 5 American Bittern calling, 4 Black-crowned Night Heron, and 2 Great Egret in the distance. I continue to miss Least Bittern. Dave W. Oswego County Montezuma NWR--Knox-Marcellus Marsh, Seneca, US-NY Jun 26, 2011 1:30 PM - 3:00 PM Protocol: Stationary Comments: With Lisa Mark. Didn't look all that carefully at the ducks. 29 species Canada Goose X Wood Duck 7 Gadwall 3 American Wigeon X American Black Duck 2 Mallard X Blue-winged Teal 3 Green-winged Teal X Redhead 3 Great Blue Heron 15 Great Egret 1 Green Heron 1 Osprey 2 Bald Eagle 2 Killdeer 2 Greater Yellowlegs 1 Lesser Yellowlegs 15 Dunlin 1 breeding-plumaged or nearly so Short-billed Dowitcher 1 Very red; distant, presume Short-billed of the Prairie race Ring-billed Gull 10 Black Tern 6 Eastern Kingbird 1 American Crow X Tree Swallow X Barn Swallow X Savannah Sparrow X Song Sparrow X Red-winged Blackbird X Common Grackle X Montezuma NWR--Puddler Marsh, Seneca, US-NY Jun 26, 2011 3:30 PM - 4:15 PM Protocol: Stationary Comments: With Lisa Mark 3 species Black-bellied Plover 2 Killdeer 2 Spotted Sandpiper 2 -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] S-b Dowitcher, Black-bellied Plovers - MNWR Sunday
Just speculating myself, but some two-year old Black-bellied Plovers making their first trip back to the arctic might fail to breed through inexperience rather than lack of energy. -Geo On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:42 AM, david nicosia wrote: It is very interesting that shorebirds are already showing up again and it is late June. Failed breeders? or did they just halt their northward migration for some reason (lack of fat reserves?) and will stage before continuing south again? Could they be very late spring migrants (younger birds that won't breed)? It seems hard to believe these birds would have made it to the arctic, failed at breeding and had enough energy to make it all the way back down here by the end of June. Since I am not an ornithologist these are mere speculations on my part. Anyone have a more definitive idea on this? or know of research studies on this? just really curious. thanks. Dave Nicosia -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[cayugabirds-l] S-b Dowitcher, Black-bellied Plovers - MNWR Sunday
The yellowlegs are early migrants in spring and could have been on territory for 6-8 weeks already, and thus bred successfully and now on their way south. I would consider them authentic fall migrants, and that would probably be the case with other species that migrate north in April or early May (ie., right now is the expected time for the first southbound birds). This being only late June, shorebirds that pass us in late May and early June could not have bred unless they went north much earlier than the others. Mid to late June might be too early even to expect failed breeders. Thus I assume these to be non-breeding one-year-old birds wandering north as part of spring migration but probably summering south of the breeding grounds. I think the recent White-rumps were in that category. The dowitcher is perhaps a question mark since there are possibly two species involved - too far out on Sunday to look for meaningful field marks and I could barely see the bill. Short-billed would seem the most likely for various reasons. Dave Wheeler Oswego County -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] S-b Dowitcher, Black-bellied Plovers - MNWR Sunday
If you Google shorebirds + failed breeders you'll get a lot of hits, and you'll see the word 'presumed' again and again. The Ontario Field Ornithologists website offers a more cautious assessment: Failed Breeders: Most adult shorebirds do not stay long on the breeding grounds after nest failure or loss of chicks. Some very early or earlier than normal first migrants in full alternate (breeding) plumage may be failed breeders. However, adults of most species appear at the same time every year suggesting that the “failed breeders” explanation is questionable in many cases. http://www.ofo.ca/reportsandarticles/southboundshorebirds.php When deciding how early is early enough in the Cayuga Basin to risk floating the failed breeder explanation, Steve Kelling's shorebird bar chart might be useful: http://www.birds.cornell.edu/cayugabirdclub/firstrecords/shorebirds.htm -Geo Geo Kloppel Bowmaker Restorer 227 Tupper Road Spencer NY 14883 607 564 7026 g...@cornell.edu geoklop...@gmail.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] S-b Dowitcher, Black-bellied Plovers - MNWR Sunday
I recall birding in southern Minnesota in my youth and the date June 17 sticks in my mind as when we would get out to look for the first returning Lesser Yellowlegs. Based on the shorebird resource compiled by Kelling, it appears that Black-bellied Plover is the most unusual of the recent shorebird reports. Bill E - Original Message - From: Geo Kloppel geoklop...@gmail.com To: cayugabirdlist L cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] S-b Dowitcher, Black-bellied Plovers - MNWR Sunday If you Google shorebirds + failed breeders you'll get a lot of hits, and you'll see the word 'presumed' again and again. The Ontario Field Ornithologists website offers a more cautious assessment: Failed Breeders: Most adult shorebirds do not stay long on the breeding grounds after nest failure or loss of chicks. Some very early or earlier than normal first migrants in full alternate (breeding) plumage may be failed breeders. However, adults of most species appear at the same time every year suggesting that the “failed breeders” explanation is questionable in many cases. http://www.ofo.ca/reportsandarticles/southboundshorebirds.php When deciding how early is early enough in the Cayuga Basin to risk floating the failed breeder explanation, Steve Kelling's shorebird bar chart might be useful: http://www.birds.cornell.edu/cayugabirdclub/firstrecords/shorebirds.htm -Geo Geo Kloppel Bowmaker Restorer 227 Tupper Road Spencer NY 14883 607 564 7026 g...@cornell.edu geoklop...@gmail.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] S-b Dowitcher, Black-bellied Plovers - MNWR Sunday
There may also be some ambiguity about which kinds of failures are meant to be included among the failed breeders. The phrase does seem to cover individuals who fail in the midst of breeding (losing their eggs or unfledged young to predation or accident), but what about those who fail earlier in the attempt (being eliminated in the competitions to secure desirable patches of ground or obtain mates), or those who just fail to breed (join the northward migration, but don't make it all the way to the breeding grounds, or do get there but then make little or no attempt to reproduce)? With several kinds of failures occurring at different points in the breeding calendar, there might be several waves of early south-bounders to confound the picture. -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Mimidae
On my Brooktondale walk this morning, I encountered all three of our local Mimidae within about 200 yds. on Burns Rd. The BROWN THRASHER was lustily belting out its song in about equal 2 and 3 note segments, with even one segment of 4 notes. The MOCKINGBIRD was blasting out the most vocal renditions of its songs that I have ever heard it perform at this location. It sounded like a North Carolina bird. One song was an exact copy of the textbook song of a mourning warbler. I wonder where it picked that up? Steve Fast Brooktondale -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
