[cayugabirds-l] Snowy owl

2014-01-30 Thread David Diaz
Snowy owl off Rt96A and Woodworth Rd just south of Geneva.  Sitting on top of 
gas well on east side of 96A.  Saw it as I was driving north.

Dropped Pin
near 3551-3583 New York 96A, Geneva, NY 14456
http://goo.gl/maps/IpgKn

David Diaz
Tburg, NY

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] bird hydration

2014-01-30 Thread Chris R. Pelkie
Two days ago, I went to the CLO Observatory on lunch break and watched a lone 
American Crow, moving around on the pond ice (30’ away so easy to watch with 
binocs), selecting morsels of ice (small balls it appeared) and ingesting them. 
Later it moved over to an area where there were black bits, maybe seeds or 
something blown over from the feeding area and picked at those as well. But the 
first sequence was definitely ice, not ‘stuff’. I wondered why it didn’t move 
to the small area of open water though the ice edge might have been too fragile 
for it and it knew that.

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Research Analyst
Bioacoustics Research Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
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Ithaca, NY 14850

On Jan 29, 2014, at 20:03, Linda Orkin 
wingmagi...@gmail.commailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice sequence. Note his final comment about heat loss.

Linda

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Christine C. Bogdanowicz 
c...@cornell.edumailto:c...@cornell.edu wrote:

Thought this would be an appropriate read ;-)
http://www.featheredphotography.com/blog/2014/01/26/frost-eating-white-crowned-sparrow/


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106A Kennedy Hall, Cornell University
Ithaca, NY  14853
(607) 255-3851: office
(607) 379-3341: mobile/cell
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On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Marie P. Read 
m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote:

Regarding winter bird hydration:

I've seen several species of bird eat snow (e.g. Northern Cardinal, Common 
Redpoll).
I've also seen chickadees hovering to sip from melting icicles.

Marie

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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] bird hydration

I’m sure someone knows how birds in the wild stay hydrated in a prolonged cold 
snap, such as we’re experiencing. I know that sunflower seeds in feeders 
provide some moisture, but I can’t see any main water sources around my house 
that aren’t frozen solid. (I live just above Owasco Lake, and even the entire 
lake is frozen over this year, as are the waterfall tributaries.) Do birds 
“drink” snow in some way?

I’d be grateful for information about this.

Eben McLane
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] One special hunting season and two management proposals -black bear and Mute Swan.

2014-01-30 Thread Jody W Enck
Hi all,

  I encourage folks on the listserv to consider this issue carefully 
and to provide comments to DEC during this period when the agency is seeking 
public comment.  A word of caution, though.  As I am sure all of you can 
appreciate, issues like this are rather complex -- they are not black and white 
with simple answers.  I certainly can appreciate and respect the opinions of 
folks who don’t want to see any animals killed if at all possible.  If that is 
how you feel, then the petition being circulated by goosewatchnyc is something 
you might really want to sign.  However, if you are interested in seeking more 
information about why Mute Swans are classified as invasive species, how the 
DEC arrived at a statewide invasive species plan, and scientific information 
about thine ecological and human impacts of Mute Swans, then I encourage you to 
look elsewhere to become informed.

  Although I am on the Conservation Committee for the Cayuga Bird Club, 
I am writing this post as just a private person because I really feel like 
folks should have the best available information so they can provide their 
informed opinion and input to DEC.  Statements on the website linked below 
about “bad science” being used reflect only a minute part of the data used in 
the decision by DEC, and they are largely taken out of context.  It is a little 
bit like someone dismissing the idea of climate just because they woke up to a 
really cold morning.  Further, the web link below describes how Mute Swans live 
by the thousands in the UK in harmony with other waterfowl.  I don’t have any 
problem with that, but the context for the proposed action is that because Mute 
Swans are not native to North America, they have ecological and social impacts 
here that differ from what happens in the UK.

  The group presenting the petition against removing Mute Swans is 
fairly clear in their desire not to have any animals killed if at all possible. 
 Like I said earlier, if that is consistent with your personal beliefs, then by 
all means, please consider signing the petition.  However, if you are 
considering signing the petition because the link below tells you to think DEC 
has used bad science or has not considered the right things in its decision, 
then I would encourage you not to sign the petition.  The information provided 
on the website relating to those issues is not factual.

  One of the things I really like about the birding community served by 
this listserv is that it is really passionate about birds and bird-related 
issues.  I am very glad to see folks bring to our attention things like the DEC 
plan and that there are groups both in support of, and against, the plan.  I 
also believe that an important service that some of us with experience in these 
matters can provide is assistance sorting through rhetoric.  Maybe the 
executive committee of the Cayuga Bird Club might want to develop an official 
position on the DEC proposal (I am not suggesting that the executive committee 
do that), but I don't think it is up to the Conservation Committee to 
necessarily come out in support or opposition to it.  I do think, though, that 
members of the committee and other informed folks should help the rest of us 
sort through the noise in the communication so we can make the best informed 
decision for ourselves.


Hope this has been useful for folks to think about.
Jody Enck


From: Linda Orkin
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎January‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎2‎:‎12‎ ‎PM
To: John and Sue Gregoire
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L, KHAMOLISTSERV

Just wanted to let everyone know that there are indeed two sides to the issue 
of killing all Mute Swans. Here is a link which I received.

http://www.goosewatchnyc.com/mute-swan-plan/

Perhaps there is no truths on this analysis, however...

Given the DEC's NYS management policies towards Coyotes, no daily bag limit, 
can be killed day and night and fair game for hunting contests,  I am very 
inclined to dislike their policies.

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY 14850


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, John and Sue Gregoire 
k...@empacc.netmailto:k...@empacc.net wrote:
Be aware of the special deer season throughout Tompkins County when you venture 
out
in January. The second and third item propose Black Bear and Mute Swan 
management
plans and are open for comment.
J.

01/15/2014
Hello,
The NYS Department of Environmental Conservation has issued the following press
release:

Special Deer Hunting Season in Central Tompkins County to Help Control Local 
Deer
Population

Deer Management Focus Area Open Until January 31, 2014

A special deer hunting season to help control the deer population in and around 
the
city of Ithaca, Tompkins County, will be open until January 31, 2014, State
Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Regional Director Ken Lynch 
announced
today.

The Deer Management Focus Area (DMFA) program was initiated in 2012 in the 
Ithaca
area to expand the use of hunting to 

RE:[cayugabirds-l] bird hydration

2014-01-30 Thread Nari Mistry
The chickadees around our yard love to hover  sip the maple-sap icicles that 
form on a red maple when the sap has started running. It's quite sweet, I have 
tasted it! Hydration and energy all in one.

Nari Mistry
Ellis Hollow Rd.

 Subject: RE: bird hydration
 From: Marie P. Readm...@cornell.edu
 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 00:47:26 +
 X-Message-Number: 7

 Regarding winter bird hydration:

 I've seen several species of bird eat snow (e.g. Northern Cardinal, Common 
 Redpoll).
 I've also seen chickadees hovering to sip from melting icicles.

 Marie

 Marie Read Wildlife Photography
 452 Ringwood Road
 Freeville NY  13068 USA

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Video of Auburn crows

2014-01-30 Thread Anne Clark
Those thousands surely would be reassuring  if I were a crow worried about 
being The One to be eaten by The Owl tonight!  Lottery chance converging on 
zero.

Fortunately for Ithaca's attitude toward crows, the flights into Ithaca 
roost(s) do not compare.  :)

Anne

On Jan 29, 2014, at 9:43 PM, John and Fritzie Blizzard wrote:

 This video of Auburn crows (click on the word link below) is just a tiny bit 
 of what we see each evening as foraging crows return to Auburn to roost. It's 
 an unbelieveable sight. Think the flights in Ithaca can compare?
  
 Fritzie
 The link to watch it on YouTube.
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[cayugabirds-l] Peregrine vs. Red-tailed hawk

2014-01-30 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal
I just witnessed an adult Peregrine attack a Red-tailed hawk from my office 
window. The clash went on for approximately 3 minutes. First both of them were 
in the air and tumbled a few times. Then the Red-tailed decided to alight on 
one of the pipes of USDA building and stay put. Peregrine several times tried 
to attack it by dive bombing. It tried three or four times. Then left down the 
Tower road towards  downtown. I had enough time to grab my binocular out to see 
the Peregrine.  Red-tailed is still sitting on the USDA building

Exciting eye exercise!

Meena


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Re:[cayugabirds-l] cayugabirds-l digest: January 29, 2014

2014-01-30 Thread Patricia Keen
Eagles have arrived at Destiny USA of all places. Best time for seeing them
is early in the day before the lots fill with cars,  Near Best Buy,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=9paRLOUbi90


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Upstate NY Birding digest 
cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu wrote:

 CAYUGABIRDS-L Digest for Wednesday, January 29, 2014.

 1. FWD: GPS Tracked Snowy Owls in NY
 2. [OOB] Snowy Owl West of Rt. 96a Geneva / Larsen Rd.
 3. Compost jackpot - Glaucous, Iceland and LBBG this morning
 4. Re: SNOW HELP-Please-Thanks
 5. Re: One special hunting season and two management proposals -black bear
 and Mute Swan.
 6. bird hydration
 7. RE: bird hydration
 8. Re: bird hydration
 9. Re: bird hydration
 10. Re: bird hydration
 11. Video of Auburn crows

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 Subject: FWD: GPS Tracked Snowy Owls in NY
 From: Meena Madhav Haribal m...@cornell.edu
 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:19:42 +
 X-Message-Number: 1


 This has not come to Cayugabirds. So I thought it might be of interest to
 some of you who are not in NYSbirds.



 This cool!





  Subject: GPS Tracked Snowy Owls in NY
 From: Drew Weber drewwe...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:41:21 -0500
 X-Message-Number: 1

 I thought this listserv might be interested in the fact that three GPS
 tracked snowy owls are currently in New York, all part of the Project
 SNOWstorm initiative this winter (more info on the project at
 projectsnowstorm.org).

 Two owls were recently banded near Braddock Bay and a third owl that was
 banded in Erie, PA two weeks ago has now flown across the state border.

 The fascinating part is that all three owls appear to be taking rides out
 into the Great Lakes on ice floes. You can follow along with their
 movements on an interactive map. Under optimal conditions (fully charged
 batteries and good cell reception) these birds send us updates on their
 whereabouts every three days, so you can check back occasionally to see new
 data.

 The two immature males banded near Braddock.
 http://www.projectsnowstorm.org/maps/cranberry/
 http://www.projectsnowstorm.org/maps/braddock/

 The immature male banded in Erie, PA.
 http://www.projectsnowstorm.org/maps/erie/

 Drew Weber
 drewwe...@gmail.com
 484.269.6009

 Meena Haribal
 Ithaca NY 14850
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 Subject: [OOB] Snowy Owl West of Rt. 96a Geneva / Larsen Rd.
 From: Daniel Graham artst...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:16:48 -0500
 X-Message-Number: 2

 As of 7:55AM Snowy Owl, presumably the same one David Diaz spotted
 yesterday, is back near the same spot. Just now it was silhouetted
 against the ridgeline quite far from the road, but beautifully
 illuminated by the sun. Incidentally, I saw what I again presume was
 the same bird back on Dec. 3 in this area--it appeared to have
 substantial dark coloration then, but it was too far away to tell with
 my small binoculars today. I have heard through the grapevine that a
 Snowy was seen in this area in past years as well, so perhaps this is
 the bird's vacation spot, so to speak.

 Daniel Graham
 Tburg


 Subject: Snowy owl- OOB
 From: David Diaz dmdiaz73 AT hotmail.com
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:27:18 -0500

 Snowy owl on rt96A and Larsen Road, south of Geneva. About 250' from rt96A.
 Google maps pin attached...


 Dropped Pin
 near 3631-3799 New York 96A, Geneva, NY 14456
 http://goo.gl/maps/HvkLj

 David Diaz
 Tburg, NY

 Sent from David's iPhone

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 Subject: Compost jackpot - Glaucous, Iceland and LBBG this morning
 From: Jeff Gerbracht ja...@cornell.edu
 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:19:18 -0500
 X-Message-Number: 3

 After visiting the compost 3-4 times a week, I finally had some success
 this morning which more than made up for all of the gull-less visits I've
 had this January.

 2 1st year Iceland's were sitting on the compost rows along with 2 Lesser
 Black-backed Gulls.But the highlight was definitely the 3rd winter /
 adult Glaucous
 Gull that appeared from no where, circled the car once and then,
 unfortunately, headed off in the direction of Monkey Run.
   Jeff

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 Subject: Re: SNOW HELP-Please-Thanks
 From: John Confer con...@ithaca.edu
 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:42:30 -0500
 X-Message-Number: 4

 My gosh,

 I wouldn't have guessed that I could get so many helpful tips about
 somewhat sedentary SNOW. Thanks so much. The 16 person field trip looks
 like it may well be a success. Of course, the weather forecast is now
 for warming (which you might think was a blessing, except) with
 snow/sleet/rain. It 

[cayugabirds-l] Eared Grebe, Myers Point

2014-01-30 Thread Jay McGowan
Bob McGuire just called to say he has an EARED GREBE off Ladoga at Myers
Point. I was there earlier this morning and didn't see this bird, but I did
have a basic adult RED-NECKED GREBE, reported yesterday by David Weber and
others, off the Myers marina this morning, as well as good waterfowl
diversity here and north of Salt Point.

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[cayugabirds-l] Coopers Hawk.

2014-01-30 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal
Just now a Cooper's Hawk flew across the window at less than 10 feet away! 
Looks like a day of the raptors.  About an hour ago the Red-tailed was scaring 
away hordes of starlings that were in front of the green houses on Tower road. 
They flew in nice patterns as the hawk mingled among them.

Meena

Dr. Meena Haribal
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Ithaca NY 14850
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Coopers Hawk.

2014-01-30 Thread Linda Orkin
I always look up in the big old cherry tree behind my house when I leave
each morning, still missing the flock of Crows that used to frequent my
yard, until they got chased away by another flock. This is where they used
to perch, waiting for me to put peanuts out for them.   A new flock,
probably the ones that chased them, is starting to get used to my yard now,
and when I came out I was thrilled to see two Crows up there.  No wait, one
Crow at the very top and slightly below and to the left, a Coopers Hawk.
Both were completely silent and still.  Facing each other and so close. I
watched for a minute and then ran in to get a camera.  Too late.  I wish I
would have just stayed and watched.  Interesting dual.

Linda Orkin
Muriel Street
Ithaca, NY


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Meena Madhav Haribal m...@cornell.eduwrote:

  Just now a Cooper's Hawk flew across the window at less than 10 feet
 away! Looks like a day of the raptors.  About an hour ago the Red-tailed
 was scaring away hordes of starlings that were in front of the green houses
 on Tower road. They flew in nice patterns as the hawk mingled among them.

 Meena

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[cayugabirds-l] Correction: waterfowl - wyers/sheldrake

2014-01-30 Thread Michele Mannella
Saw the MERGANSERS again yesterday, and I have a correction. They are RED
BREASTED MERGANSERS
(guess I need that waterfowl class review!).

Michele

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From: Michele Mannella mkmanne...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:06 AM
Subject: waterfowl - wyers/sheldrake
To: Cayuga Birds cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu


On Saturday afternoon, I finally got to take a drive along Wyers Road and
Sheldrake Park in Ovid and test my waterfowl id skills I learned from the
Lab of O on-line class (thanks, Kevin!).

Along the way (near the bb) I saw 5 REDHEADS, about a dozen BUFFLEHEADS, 2
TUNDRA SWANS, 25 GOLDENEYES, 22 RINGNECKED DUCKS, and about 8 COMMON
MERGANSERS.  I am certain there were other birds I did not count or see
very well.

The COMMON MERGANSERS were quite actively engaged in courtship display, and
it was fun to watch! They would circle about, stretch their necks upward
pointing their bills to the sky, dip down into the water and then cozy up
to a female while chasing away the competition. There was also much
flapping and splashing about. I couldn't hear if they were vocalizing,
however, from my perch above the cove.

Michele
Ovid / Interlaken

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[cayugabirds-l] SEOW Ovid

2014-01-30 Thread Michele Mannella
Yesterday around 9:30 a.m. I was cruising around Ovid and Interlaken
looking for snowies. I did not find any, but I did see a SEOW, on Center
Road just east of CR129, quietly perched atop a stalk in the corn field. It
was a gorgeous sunny day and I was surprised to see it.

Nothing else of significance unless you count the dozen MOURNING DOVES that
have decided my front porch is the best place for roosting and dropping
presents. When they take to the shrubs, however, and the light hits them
just right, they appear to be glowing peaches. Sometimes I forget to notice
how beautiful the common birds are.

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[cayugabirds-l] Monday Night Seminar: Birds, Butterflies, and More: Ten Secrets to Never Having a Slow Day in the Field

2014-01-30 Thread Marc Devokaitis
Happy New Semester!



We're back! Please join us at 7:30 on February 3rd for the next Monday
Night Seminar at the Lab of
Ornithologyhttp://www.birds.cornell.edu/Page.aspx?pid=1573.
As always, these seminars are free and open to the public. The doors open
at 7:00.




*Michael O'Brien  Louise Zemaitis, Cape May Bird Observatory Birds,
Butterflies, and More: Ten Secrets to Never Having a Slow Day in the Field*

Ever hear a birder complain that there's nothing around, or see a
butterfly-seeker pack up and head home because cloudy skies chased all the
butterflies away? For those with a broad interest in nature, there should
never be a boring day in the field. Every day is different, and everywhere
you go, something amazing is happening. In this program, Cape May
Observatory naturalists and birding-tour leaders Michael O'Brien and Louise
Zemaitis will highlight a few ways to add richness to every outing.

This coming Monday, and many more times throughout this semester, we will
be streaming the seminar live. Be sure to bookmark
http://dl.allaboutbirds.org/cornelllab-monday-night-seminars for quick
access on Monday evening.  And if you missed it, you can also watch
the archived
versionhttp://blog.allaboutbirds.org/2013/10/04/saving-antarcticas-pristine-ross-sea-public-seminar/?__hstc=132624273.2323bdcc7ef7bed16dcec999613d549e.1366034604572.1383052964405.1383232543563.181__hssc=132624273.1.1383232543563__hsfp=153550319of
the previous live streamed lectures.



Hope to see you there!

Marc




*UPCOMING MONDAY NIGHT SEMINARS*





*Feb 10 Cayuga Bird Club Meeting Leonardo Campagna, Postdoctoral Research
Associate, Fuller Evolutionary Biology Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
Exploring the Origins of Neotropical Avian Biodiversity *Leonardo Campagna
will discuss his studies on speciation and the effort to understand what
factors have contributed to the vast avian diversity of the Neotropics. He
will talk about how geological events have promoted speciation and explore
examples from his own work in which he uses a combination of molecular
tools and bird vocalizations analyses to study the evolution of various
groups of birds from a number of areas in South America.


*February 20* **Note this is a Thursday*


* Joseph Tobias, Oxford University Species Interactions in Birds: From
Microevolution to Macroecology *Dr. Joseph Tobias of Oxford University will
discuss interactions among species competing for the same food resources
and how that competition may drive evolution in two directions. Competition
could foster small genetic changes resulting in new subspecies or large
changes that may result in new groups of birds. Drawing from work on birds
and birdsong, Dr. Tobias will show that tracing evolutionary development in
species over time challenges common assumptions about the consequence of
species interactions, and sheds new light on broad-scale patterns in
evolution.





*February 24: Art Opening Denis Defibaugh, artist Afterlifes of Natural
History *Natural History Museums are depositories of what was once alive.
Artist and RIT Professor Denis Defibaugh is interested in the aesthetics
and taxonomy of these specimens and feels they combine aspects of both art
and science. Defibaugh uses film that is obsolete, allowing it to oxidize
and eventually become a black sheet of film. His photographs of specimens
are made during the deterioration process, creating moving images of
preservation and decay--what he calls a fading memory.




*March 3 Rachel Dickinson, author Have Notebook and Camera Will Travel:
Confessions of a Travel Writer Who Birds to Travel and Travels to Bird.*
Freelance author and travel writer Rachel Dickinson has spent the past
couple of decades roaming the globe in search of stories. Armed with a
notebook and a little camera, she's written about far-flung places such as
Siberia and the Falklands, and places closer to home including the Erie
Canal and her hometown of Freeville. Her work has been published in a
number of publications including *Audubon, The Atlantic*, and
smithsonian.com. She is a regular contributor to *The Huffington Post*
and *Men's
Journal* online.

*Dickinson's book, Falconer on the Edge: a man, his bird, and the vanishing
landscape of the American West (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt)*






*March 10 Cayuga Bird Club Meeting Kevin McGowan, Cornell Lab of
Ornithology Waterfowl ID: The Most Important Things*
Do you deem distant ducks disturbingly difficult? Do you find figuring out
female fowl frustrating and fraught with failure? This evening is
engineered to enlighten, engage, and entertain, while welcoming everyone
into the wonderful world of waterfowl. It will introduce the top two tips
for telling tricky ID troubles apart:  shape and color pattern.  Kevin
McGowan works in the Education section of the Cornell Lab, and has been
creating distance learning courses about bird behavior and identification.
He will share highlights from his Waterfowl ID webinar series.




*March 17 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Eared Grebe, Myers Point

2014-01-30 Thread Susan Fast
I was there and saw the eared.  Also found 2 RED-NECKED GREBES after Bob left.  
To me, the eared didn't look like the one at Aurora, so we met there later and 
found only HORNED GREBES off the Boathouse.  After a fine lunch at Dories, I 
headed down to Long Point SP and found the Aurora EARED GREBE there, all by 
itself.  The facial markings are somewhat different in the 2 eared grebes.

Steve Fast
Brooktondale



On Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:01 PM, Jay McGowan jw...@cornell.edu wrote:
  
Bob McGuire just called to say he has an EARED GREBE off Ladoga at Myers Point. 
I was there earlier this morning and didn't see this bird, but I did have a 
basic adult RED-NECKED GREBE, reported yesterday by David Weber and others, off 
the Myers marina this morning, as well as good waterfowl diversity here and 
north of Salt Point.

-- 
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Macaulay Library
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] One special hunting season and two management proposals -black bear and Mute Swan.

2014-01-30 Thread Dave Nutter
Well said, Jody. In addition to the passion for birds which people bring to the listserv, I really appreciate the knowledge which people share (I find this especially helpful to correct my tendency toward speculation). If you have sites in mind, Jody, where we can get more factual info than the goosewatchnyc folks present, please do not hesitate to share them. Meanwhile, for anyone wishing to weigh in with the DEC, note that tomorrow, 31 January, is the deadline to send comments. --Dave NutterOn Jan 30, 2014, at 09:53 AM, Jody W Enck j...@cornell.edu wrote:Hi all,  I encourage folks on the listserv to consider this issue carefully and to provide comments to DEC during this period when the agency is seeking public comment. A word of caution, though. As I am sure all of you can appreciate, issues like this are rather complex -- they are not black and white with simple answers. I certainly can appreciate and respect the opinions of folks who don’t want to see any animals killed if at all possible. If that is how you feel, then the petition being circulated by goosewatchnyc is something you might really want to sign. However, if you are interested in seeking more information about why Mute Swans are classified as invasive species, how the DEC arrived at a statewide invasive species plan, and scientific information about thine ecological and human impacts of Mute Swans, then I encourage you to look elsewhere to become informed. Although I am on the Conservation Committee for the Cayuga Bird Club, I am writing this post as just a private person because I really feel like folks should have the best available information so they can provide their informed opinion and input to DEC. Statements on the website linked below about“bad science” being used reflect only a minute part of the data used in the decision by DEC, and they are largely taken out of context. It is a little bit like someonedismissing the idea of climate just because they woke up to a really cold morning. Further, the web link below describes how Mute Swans live by the thousands in the UK in harmony with other waterfowl. I don’t have any problem with that, but the context for the proposed action is that because Mute Swans are not native to North America, they have ecological and social impacts here that differ from what happens in the UK.  The group presenting the petition against removing Mute Swans is fairly clear in their desire not to have any animals killed if at all possible. Like I said earlier, if that is consistent with your personal beliefs, then by all means, please consider signing the petition. However, if you are considering signing the petition because the link below tells you to think DEC has used bad science or has not considered the right things in its decision, then I would encourage you not to sign the petition. The information provided on the website relating to those issues is not factual. One of the things I really like about the birding community served by this listserv is that it is really passionate about birds and bird-related issues. I am very glad to see folks bring to our attention things like the DEC plan and that there are groups both in support of, and against, the plan. I also believe that an important service that some of us with experience in these matters can provide is assistance sorting through rhetoric. Maybe the executive committee of the Cayuga Bird Club might want to develop an official position on the DEC proposal (I am not suggesting that the executive committee do that), but I don't think it is up to the Conservation Committee to necessarily come out in support or opposition to it. I do think, though, that members of the committee and other informed folks should help the rest of us sort through the noise in the communication so we can make the best informed decision for ourselves.Hope this has been useful for folks to think about.Jody EnckFrom:Linda Orkin Sent:‎Wednesday‎, ‎January‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎2‎:‎12‎ ‎PM To:John and Sue Gregoire Cc:CAYUGABIRDS-L, KHAMOLISTSERVJust wanted to let everyone know that there are indeed two sides to the issue of killing all Mute Swans. Here is a link which I received.  http://www.goosewatchnyc.com/mute-swan-plan/ Perhaps there is no truths on this analysis, however... Given the DEC's NYS "management" policies towards Coyotes, no daily bag limit, can be killed day and night and fair game for hunting contests, I am very inclined to dislike their policies. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY 14850 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, John and Sue Gregoire  k...@empacc.net wrote:Be aware of the special deer season throughout Tompkins County when you venture out in January. The second and third item propose Black Bear and Mute Swan management plans and are open for comment. J.  DEC Releases Two Draft Species Management Plans  Plans Will Guide Management of Black Bears and Mute Swans for the Next Ten Years  The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) today released draft 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] One special hunting season and two management proposals -black bear and Mute Swan.

2014-01-30 Thread Dave Nutter
You can read the 11 page draft NYSDEC management plan for Mute Swan here:http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/muteswanmgmtpln2013.pdf--Dave NutterOn Jan 30, 2014, at 05:42 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote:Well said, Jody. In addition to the passion for birds which people bring to the listserv, I really appreciate the knowledge which people share (I find this especially helpful to correct my tendency toward speculation). If you have sites in mind, Jody, where we can get more factual info than the goosewatchnyc folks present, please do not hesitate to share them. Meanwhile, for anyone wishing to weigh in with the DEC, note that tomorrow, 31 January, is the deadline to send comments. --Dave NutterOn Jan 30, 2014, at 09:53 AM, Jody W Enck j...@cornell.edu wrote:Hi all,  I encourage folks on the listserv to consider this issue carefully and to provide comments to DEC during this period when the agency is seeking public comment. A word of caution, though. As I am sure all of you can appreciate, issues like this are rather complex -- they are not black and white with simple answers. I certainly can appreciate and respect the opinions of folks who don’t want to see any animals killed if at all possible. If that is how you feel, then the petition being circulated by goosewatchnyc is something you might really want to sign. However, if you are interested in seeking more information about why Mute Swans are classified as invasive species, how the DEC arrived at a statewide invasive species plan, and scientific information about thine ecological and human impacts of Mute Swans, then I encourage you to look elsewhere to become informed. Although I am on the Conservation Committee for the Cayuga Bird Club, I am writing this post as just a private person because I really feel like folks should have the best available information so they can provide their informed opinion and input to DEC. Statements on the website linked below about“bad science” being used reflect only a minute part of the data used in the decision by DEC, and they are largely taken out of context. It is a little bit like someonedismissing the idea of climate just because they woke up to a really cold morning. Further, the web link below describes how Mute Swans live by the thousands in the UK in harmony with other waterfowl. I don’t have any problem with that, but the context for the proposed action is that because Mute Swans are not native to North America, they have ecological and social impacts here that differ from what happens in the UK.  The group presenting the petition against removing Mute Swans is fairly clear in their desire not to have any animals killed if at all possible. Like I said earlier, if that is consistent with your personal beliefs, then by all means, please consider signing the petition. However, if you are considering signing the petition because the link below tells you to think DEC has used bad science or has not considered the right things in its decision, then I would encourage you not to sign the petition. The information provided on the website relating to those issues is not factual. One of the things I really like about the birding community served by this listserv is that it is really passionate about birds and bird-related issues. I am very glad to see folks bring to our attention things like the DEC plan and that there are groups both in support of, and against, the plan. I also believe that an important service that some of us with experience in these matters can provide is assistance sorting through rhetoric. Maybe the executive committee of the Cayuga Bird Club might want to develop an official position on the DEC proposal (I am not suggesting that the executive committee do that), but I don't think it is up to the Conservation Committee to necessarily come out in support or opposition to it. I do think, though, that members of the committee and other informed folks should help the rest of us sort through the noise in the communication so we can make the best informed decision for ourselves.Hope this has been useful for folks to think about.Jody EnckFrom:Linda Orkin Sent:‎Wednesday‎, ‎January‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎2‎:‎12‎ ‎PM To:John and Sue Gregoire Cc:CAYUGABIRDS-L, KHAMOLISTSERVJust wanted to let everyone know that there are indeed two sides to the issue of killing all Mute Swans. Here is a link which I received.  http://www.goosewatchnyc.com/mute-swan-plan/ Perhaps there is no truths on this analysis, however... Given the DEC's NYS "management" policies towards Coyotes, no daily bag limit, can be killed day and night and fair game for hunting contests, I am very inclined to dislike their policies. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY 14850 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, John and Sue Gregoire  k...@empacc.net wrote:Be aware of the special deer season throughout Tompkins County when you venture out in January. The second and third item propose Black Bear and Mute Swan management plans and are open for comment. J.  DEC 

[cayugabirds-l] Swan Plan comments

2014-01-30 Thread Dave Nutter
To: NYSDEC Bureau of Wildlife Re: Swan Management PlanI support the DEC's plan to eliminate free-ranging Mute Swans in New York State over the long-term. I have read the plan. I agree with the plan's premises regarding the threats to native wildlife, to wetland habitats, and to humans of continued increase and spread of this non-native invasive species. I think the plan is very reasonable in addressing several potential objections. The plan allows birds to be kept in captivity by permit under conditions which prevent their release or propagation and which allow the source to be traced in case of escape. This should help address objections by people who want to enjoy ornamental birds. The plan encourages live capture for diversion of birds from free-ranging to captive non-breeding status. This reduces the killing of birds for those who object to killing. If hunting of Mute Swans is eventually allowed, the plan seeks to prevent accidental killing of Tundra and Trumpeter Swans by disallowing hunting where these native species are present. The plan prioritizes limiting Mute Swans' range expansion and disallows hazing, which could encourage expansion. I suspect that many petitioners who object to the plan have not read it, are not aware of these provisions, and have been misled by statements made by promoters of the petitions. I think it is important for New York State to join other states working to counter this invasive species. The plan is good in that it recognizes that efforts under DEC's previous plan have not been sufficient and it therefore recommends further steps, as well as continued monitoring and another evaluation in a few years as to whether this plan is effective. It would be good if our state can ensure it is not the source of Mute Swans to neighboring states who are working to reduce their populations. I hope enough resources can be put toward implementing this plan that it can be effective. David Nutter243 Cliff StIthaca, NY 14850
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[cayugabirds-l] Winter Wren

2014-01-30 Thread Ann Mitchell
I finally felt well enough to take a walk which was at Renwick Park. A Winter 
Wren entertained me for 4-6 minutes. Very cute and chatty. Good Birding, Ann

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Swan Plan comments

2014-01-30 Thread The Donster
Is this for real?



On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote:

 To: NYSDEC Bureau of Wildlife 
 Re: Swan Management Plan
 
 I support the DEC's plan to eliminate free-ranging Mute Swans in New York 
 State over the long-term. I have read the plan. I agree with the plan's 
 premises regarding the threats to native wildlife, to wetland habitats, and 
 to humans of continued increase and spread of this non-native invasive 
 species. I think the plan is very reasonable in addressing several potential 
 objections. The plan allows birds to be kept in captivity by permit under 
 conditions which prevent their release or propagation and which allow the 
 source to be traced in case of escape. This should help address objections by 
 people who want to enjoy ornamental birds. The plan encourages live capture 
 for diversion of birds from free-ranging to captive non-breeding status. This 
 reduces the killing of birds for those who object to killing. If hunting of 
 Mute Swans is eventually allowed, the plan seeks to prevent accidental 
 killing of Tundra and Trumpeter Swans by disallowing hunting where these 
 native species are present. The plan prioritizes limiting Mute Swans' range 
 expansion and disallows hazing, which could encourage expansion. I suspect 
 that many petitioners who object to the plan have not read it, are not aware 
 of these provisions, and have been misled by statements made by promoters of 
 the petitions. 
 
 I think it is important for New York State to join other states working to 
 counter this invasive species. The plan is good in that it recognizes that 
 efforts under DEC's previous plan have not been sufficient and it therefore 
 recommends further steps, as well as continued monitoring and another 
 evaluation in a few years as to whether this plan is effective. It would be 
 good if our state can ensure it is not the source of Mute Swans to 
 neighboring states who are working to reduce their populations. I hope enough 
 resources can be put toward implementing this plan that it can be effective. 
 David Nutter
 243 Cliff St
 Ithaca, NY 14850
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[cayugabirds-l] Birds Today

2014-01-30 Thread bob mcguire
Having seen/heard 96 new birds so far for the year, I started out today 
thinking, maybe, I could find 100 for the month of January. (Silly game - but 
it gets me outside!)

I hung around a private feeder until 9 am when the Purple Finch showed up. 
Beautiful male, backlit by the sun. #97.

Then I spent an hour at the compost piles picking through the hundreds of gulls 
that were waiting to be fed from the CU dining halls' refuse. Ring-billed, 
Herring, and Great Black-backed Gulls of all ages but no white-winged gulls. 
(Checking in later with Jay, he missed them today as well.)

There was a report of  Red-necked Grebe yesterday at Ladoga (how come the 
report never made it to the listserve and/or the RBA??). Scoping into the brisk 
south wind was not fun, but I did manage to find what I thought might have been 
the grebe.  It was bouncing around in the waves and then went to rest with its 
head tucked - and then disappeared altogether. So I had to make due with a 
Tompkins County Eared Grebe. And lots of Long-tailed Ducks. Just about then 
Steve Fast showed up with an invitation to lunch at Dories, so off we went. 

From the boathouse in Aurora we spotted at least 10 Horned Grebes (no Eared 
Grebe there) plus the expected Goldeneye, Buffleheads, and a few White-winged 
Scoters. There were no White-fronted Geese at Farleys and none among the 
hundreds of Canadas on Mill Pond in Union Springs. The rest of the lake north 
was frozen except for a channel between Cayuga and Mud Lock. No Lesser 
Black-backed Gull at Dean's Cove. No grebes of loons along Elm Beach Road - 
but there were two WW Scoters.

Finally, back to Ithaca and up again to Ladoga. Where I did, finally, get a 
satisfactory look at the Red-necked Grebe. #98 for the year. Still one more 
day, but I'm beginning to think that 100 in January is out of reach - for me 
anyway.

Bob McGuire

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Swan Plan comments

2014-01-30 Thread Judith Thurber
Thank you for your thoughtful comments.  Very insightful and helpful.  I agree 
with your position.
Judy Thurber
Liverpool, NY

Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:05 PM, The Donster aubur...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Is this for real?
 
 
 
 On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote:
 
 To: NYSDEC Bureau of Wildlife 
 Re: Swan Management Plan
 
 I support the DEC's plan to eliminate free-ranging Mute Swans in New York 
 State over the long-term. I have read the plan. I agree with the plan's 
 premises regarding the threats to native wildlife, to wetland habitats, and 
 to humans of continued increase and spread of this non-native invasive 
 species. I think the plan is very reasonable in addressing several potential 
 objections. The plan allows birds to be kept in captivity by permit under 
 conditions which prevent their release or propagation and which allow the 
 source to be traced in case of escape. This should help address objections 
 by people who want to enjoy ornamental birds. The plan encourages live 
 capture for diversion of birds from free-ranging to captive non-breeding 
 status. This reduces the killing of birds for those who object to killing. 
 If hunting of Mute Swans is eventually allowed, the plan seeks to prevent 
 accidental killing of Tundra and Trumpeter Swans by disallowing hunting 
 where these native species are present. The plan prioritizes limiting Mute 
 Swans' range expansion and disallows hazing, which could encourage 
 expansion. I suspect that many petitioners who object to the plan have not 
 read it, are not aware of these provisions, and have been misled by 
 statements made by promoters of the petitions. 
 
 I think it is important for New York State to join other states working to 
 counter this invasive species. The plan is good in that it recognizes that 
 efforts under DEC's previous plan have not been sufficient and it therefore 
 recommends further steps, as well as continued monitoring and another 
 evaluation in a few years as to whether this plan is effective. It would be 
 good if our state can ensure it is not the source of Mute Swans to 
 neighboring states who are working to reduce their populations. I hope 
 enough resources can be put toward implementing this plan that it can be 
 effective. 
 David Nutter
 243 Cliff St
 Ithaca, NY 14850
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Cayugabirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds
3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html

Please submit your observations to eBird:
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/

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